## Wednesday, December 10, 2014

### Considering further connection to Euler and Ramanujan results

A couple of days ago I found an intriguing connection between my research and results attributed to Euler and Ramanujan, as I found using my Binary Quadratic iterator:

x2 + 7y2 = 23n+3

has nonzero integer solutions for x and y, for n = 0, or any positive integer.

According to the MathWorld website, check out eqn. 22 on this page, Euler had a similar result with an "unpublished proof":

x2 + 7y2 = 2n

where with his result, n is 3 or greater, and x and y are odd integers.

But also according to MathWorld, Ramanujan has a result called Ramanujan's square equation:

x2 + 7 = 2n

Which only has solutions for n = 3, 5, 7 and 15. That is listed on the first page I referenced on MathWorld as eqn. 21, but also has its own page.

The Binary Quadratic iterator here, or BQD Iterator for short is:

u2 + 7v2 = F

means that

(u-7v)2 + 7(u+v)2 = 23*F

The great thing then is that we can actually look inside this thing, and see why it behaves as it does.

The Ramanujan one is actually a little more interesting to me at first because it requires that v = 1 or -1.

Here is the start that gives F = 23:

12 + 7*12 = 23

So you have u = v = 1, or u = v = -1, is possible I'll note as well, so of course with the iterator those will divide off!

So the next value from the iterator is:

(-6)2 + 7*(2)2 = (23)23

And of course 4 divides off to give: (-3)2 + 7 = (2)23

And the mystery is solved. Doing further iterations is tedious and boring to me, but I'm guessing if I keep going the 7 would be left bare for exactly as many results as will give Ramanujan's finding, while have u and v must be odd, will always mean their sum gives at least a factor of 4 that divides off.

That explains Euler's result as well, as with each iteration you're multiplying by 8, but dividing 4 off automatically, so net result is multiplying by 2. Wow.

That is kind of interesting, I wonder if Euler or Ramanujan knew the why of these results. I have a mathematical tool that lets me peer inside easily.

With great mathematicians you can never be sure. They may have had this tool and didn't see any reason to tell it, or they did and that's buried somewhere or lost. So I should say, I've seen no record that they had it.

But now we can extend beyond these results, like the next one is:

x2 + 15y2 = 24n+4

has nonzero integer solutions for x and y, for n = 0, or any positive integer.

And we can adjust it a bit immediately by dividing off 4 to:

x2 + 15y2 = 22n+4

has nonzero integer solutions for x and y, for n = 0, or any positive integer, as we know that 4 will divide off.

That gives us a more general result with 2c where c is a positive integer greater than 1:

x2 + (2c - 1)y2 = 2(c-2)n+c

when c is 2 or greater, has nonzero integer solutions for x and y, for n = 0, or any positive integer.

So we have a general path for Ramanujan type results, as there will always be at least one bare iteration which is:

x2 + (2c - 1) = 2(c-2)+c

Which is of course: x2 + (2c - 1) = 22c-2

James Harris
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## Wednesday, December 10, 2014

### Considering further connection to Euler and Ramanujan results

A couple of days ago I found an intriguing connection between my research and results attributed to Euler and Ramanujan, as I found using my Binary Quadratic iterator:

x2 + 7y2 = 23n+3

has nonzero integer solutions for x and y, for n = 0, or any positive integer.

According to the MathWorld website, check out eqn. 22 on this page, Euler had a similar result with an "unpublished proof":

x2 + 7y2 = 2n

where with his result, n is 3 or greater, and x and y are odd integers.

But also according to MathWorld, Ramanujan has a result called Ramanujan's square equation:

x2 + 7 = 2n

Which only has solutions for n = 3, 5, 7 and 15. That is listed on the first page I referenced on MathWorld as eqn. 21, but also has its own page.

The Binary Quadratic iterator here, or BQD Iterator for short is:

u2 + 7v2 = F

means that

(u-7v)2 + 7(u+v)2 = 23*F

The great thing then is that we can actually look inside this thing, and see why it behaves as it does.

The Ramanujan one is actually a little more interesting to me at first because it requires that v = 1 or -1.

Here is the start that gives F = 23:

12 + 7*12 = 23

So you have u = v = 1, or u = v = -1, is possible I'll note as well, so of course with the iterator those will divide off!

So the next value from the iterator is:

(-6)2 + 7*(2)2 = (23)23

And of course 4 divides off to give: (-3)2 + 7 = (2)23

And the mystery is solved. Doing further iterations is tedious and boring to me, but I'm guessing if I keep going the 7 would be left bare for exactly as many results as will give Ramanujan's finding, while have u and v must be odd, will always mean their sum gives at least a factor of 4 that divides off.

That explains Euler's result as well, as with each iteration you're multiplying by 8, but dividing 4 off automatically, so net result is multiplying by 2. Wow.

That is kind of interesting, I wonder if Euler or Ramanujan knew the why of these results. I have a mathematical tool that lets me peer inside easily.

With great mathematicians you can never be sure. They may have had this tool and didn't see any reason to tell it, or they did and that's buried somewhere or lost. So I should say, I've seen no record that they had it.

But now we can extend beyond these results, like the next one is:

x2 + 15y2 = 24n+4

has nonzero integer solutions for x and y, for n = 0, or any positive integer.

And we can adjust it a bit immediately by dividing off 4 to:

x2 + 15y2 = 22n+4

has nonzero integer solutions for x and y, for n = 0, or any positive integer, as we know that 4 will divide off.

That gives us a more general result with 2c where c is a positive integer greater than 1:

x2 + (2c - 1)y2 = 2(c-2)n+c

when c is 2 or greater, has nonzero integer solutions for x and y, for n = 0, or any positive integer.

So we have a general path for Ramanujan type results, as there will always be at least one bare iteration which is:

x2 + (2c - 1) = 2(c-2)+c

Which is of course: x2 + (2c - 1) = 22c-2

James Harris
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The text passage discusses a mathematical discovery related to a binary quadratic equation and its connection to results by Euler and Ramanujan. It includes several equations and a generalization of a specific form of the equation.

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The passage does not contain a mathematical question but rather presents a series of mathematical statements and observations. It describes the author's findings and their relation to historical results by Euler and Ramanujan.