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Topic: f'[0]=0.5 is True?
Replies: 2   Last Post: Jul 23, 2013 4:43 AM

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 Bob Hanlon Posts: 906 Registered: 10/29/11
Re: f'[0]=0.5 is True?
Posted: Jul 20, 2013 5:54 AM

Try starting with a fresh kernel.

Clear[f, x, sol];

eqn = f''[x] + 2 f'[x] + 30 f[x] == 0;
eqn1 = f[0] == 1;
eqn2 = f'[0] == 0.5;

sol[x_] = f[x] /. DSolve[{eqn, eqn1, eqn2}, f[x], x][[1]]

(1.*(1.*Cos[Sqrt[29]*x] + 0.2785430072655778*
Sin[Sqrt[29]*x]))/E^x

sol[0]

1.

sol'[0]

0.5

Using exact numbers

eqn2 = f'[0] == 1/2;

sol[x_] = f[x] /. DSolve[{eqn, eqn1, eqn2}, f[x], x][[1]]

((1/58)*(58*Cos[Sqrt[29]*x] + 3*Sqrt[29]*
Sin[Sqrt[29]*x]))/E^x

sol[0]

1

sol'[0]

1/2

Bob Hanlon

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 3:00 AM, mariusz sapinski <
mariusz.sapinski@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I'm trying a simple exercise:
>
> eqn = f''[x] + 2 f'[x] + 30 f[x] == 0;
> Clear[f];
> Clear[x];
> eqn1 = f[0] == 1;
> eqn2 = f'[0] == 0.5;
> DSolve[{eqn, eqn1, eqn2}, f[x], x]
>
>
> and I get:
> DSolve::deqn: Equation or list of equations expected instead of True in
> the first argument {30 f[x]+2
> (f^\[Prime])[x]+(f^\[Prime]\[Prime])[x]==0,f[0]==1,True}. >>
>
> so f'[0]=0.5 is True for Mathematica?
>
> How can it be?
>
> If I remove eqn2 from DSolve then I get a solution with a parameter of
> course.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mariusz
>
>

Date Subject Author
7/20/13 Bob Hanlon
7/23/13 mariusz sapinski
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Topic: f'[0]=0.5 is True?
Replies: 2   Last Post: Jul 23, 2013 4:43 AM

 Messages: [ Previous | Next ]
 Bob Hanlon Posts: 906 Registered: 10/29/11
Re: f'[0]=0.5 is True?
Posted: Jul 20, 2013 5:54 AM

Try starting with a fresh kernel.

Clear[f, x, sol];

eqn = f''[x] + 2 f'[x] + 30 f[x] == 0;
eqn1 = f[0] == 1;
eqn2 = f'[0] == 0.5;

sol[x_] = f[x] /. DSolve[{eqn, eqn1, eqn2}, f[x], x][[1]]

(1.*(1.*Cos[Sqrt[29]*x] + 0.2785430072655778*
Sin[Sqrt[29]*x]))/E^x

sol[0]

1.

sol'[0]

0.5

Using exact numbers

eqn2 = f'[0] == 1/2;

sol[x_] = f[x] /. DSolve[{eqn, eqn1, eqn2}, f[x], x][[1]]

((1/58)*(58*Cos[Sqrt[29]*x] + 3*Sqrt[29]*
Sin[Sqrt[29]*x]))/E^x

sol[0]

1

sol'[0]

1/2

Bob Hanlon

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 3:00 AM, mariusz sapinski <
mariusz.sapinski@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I'm trying a simple exercise:
>
> eqn = f''[x] + 2 f'[x] + 30 f[x] == 0;
> Clear[f];
> Clear[x];
> eqn1 = f[0] == 1;
> eqn2 = f'[0] == 0.5;
> DSolve[{eqn, eqn1, eqn2}, f[x], x]
>
>
> and I get:
> DSolve::deqn: Equation or list of equations expected instead of True in
> the first argument {30 f[x]+2
> (f^\[Prime])[x]+(f^\[Prime]\[Prime])[x]==0,f[0]==1,True}. >>
>
> so f'[0]=0.5 is True for Mathematica?
>
> How can it be?
>
> If I remove eqn2 from DSolve then I get a solution with a parameter of
> course.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mariusz
>
>

Date Subject Author
7/20/13 Bob Hanlon
7/23/13 mariusz sapinski
user
The text is a discussion thread from a math forum, where a user is asking about a differential equation problem and the responses are providing solutions and clarifications.

TYPE: SINGLE_QUESTION_WITH_ANSWER