# Projectile Motion - hammer sliding off a roof

1. Sep 17, 2011

### Nickg140143

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
A hammer slides off the roof of a house that slopes downward at 40 degrees. The edge of teh roof is 14m avove the ground and the hammer leaves the roof at 7m/s.

How far from the edge of the roof does the hammer strike the ground?

2. Relevant equations
x direction
Vx=V0x

x=V0cosθ

y direction
Vy=V0y−gt

y=V0yt−12gt2

Vy^2=V0y^2−2gy

3. The attempt at a solution
just looking for a quick bit of help here. You can see some of the work I've done in the attached image.

My initial thought was to first decompose the initial velocity vector into its components so I could go ahead and use those in my calculations, which I did, and they seem to check out when compared with the original problems statement on velocity.

Since I'm trying to find the horizontal distance from the roof ledge, I assumed that using this would be the best bet.
$$(x-x_0)=V_0\cos{\theta}(t)$$

noticing that I need time for this, I decided to use the formula to solve for t
$$y={V_{0y}}^2t+\frac{at^2}{2}$$
Where I would let y be -14, since my displacement will be from 14m above 0m (0-14)

however, as you'll see from my work found in the attachment, it looks like I'll keep ending up with complex numbers for time.

I'm wondering whether my assumed initial variables are wrong, or if I've once again made a mathematical blunder?

Any help would be great.

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2. Sep 17, 2011

### Liquidxlax

Well i miss read the problem at the start and had a few paragraphs describing whats going on, but oh well

The roof is on an incline of 40 degrees and your magnitude of velocity is 7m/s

you need to break this up into it's x and y components using trig

x = vsin(theta)

y = vcos(theta)

Since there are no external forces in the x direction the velocity is constant, but in the y direction there is a gravity.

So by using your kinematic equations and knowing the height of the roof and what gravity is you need to solve for the time it takes for the hammer to reach the ground with your initial y velocity and final y velocity which is zero.

You know g, d, vy1 and vy2 and your x velocity

I missed your picture at first and it looks good to me.

good luck
The text passage contains a physics problem related to projectile motion, specifically about a hammer sliding off a sloped roof. The problem statement, relevant equations, and an attempt at a solution are provided, along with a request for help.
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explanation:
- the passage contains a single mathematical question: "how far from the edge of the roof does the hammer strike the ground?"
- an attempt at solving the problem is provided, including the decomposition of the initial velocity vector and the use of kinematic equations to find the time of flight and horizontal distance. the user also mentions encountering complex numbers for time, which suggests they have attempted to solve the problem but are seeking help to resolve an issue.
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    2. If an answer to that mathematical question is provided in the text

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# Projectile Motion - hammer sliding off a roof

1. Sep 17, 2011

### Nickg140143

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
A hammer slides off the roof of a house that slopes downward at 40 degrees. The edge of teh roof is 14m avove the ground and the hammer leaves the roof at 7m/s.

How far from the edge of the roof does the hammer strike the ground?

2. Relevant equations
x direction
Vx=V0x

x=V0cosθ

y direction
Vy=V0y−gt

y=V0yt−12gt2

Vy^2=V0y^2−2gy

3. The attempt at a solution
just looking for a quick bit of help here. You can see some of the work I've done in the attached image.

My initial thought was to first decompose the initial velocity vector into its components so I could go ahead and use those in my calculations, which I did, and they seem to check out when compared with the original problems statement on velocity.

Since I'm trying to find the horizontal distance from the roof ledge, I assumed that using this would be the best bet.
$$(x-x_0)=V_0\cos{\theta}(t)$$

noticing that I need time for this, I decided to use the formula to solve for t
$$y={V_{0y}}^2t+\frac{at^2}{2}$$
Where I would let y be -14, since my displacement will be from 14m above 0m (0-14)

however, as you'll see from my work found in the attachment, it looks like I'll keep ending up with complex numbers for time.

I'm wondering whether my assumed initial variables are wrong, or if I've once again made a mathematical blunder?

Any help would be great.

#### Attached Files:

• ###### phy4aH3P3.gif
File size:
20 KB
Views:
436
Last edited: Sep 17, 2011
2. Sep 17, 2011

### Liquidxlax

Well i miss read the problem at the start and had a few paragraphs describing whats going on, but oh well

The roof is on an incline of 40 degrees and your magnitude of velocity is 7m/s

you need to break this up into it's x and y components using trig

x = vsin(theta)

y = vcos(theta)

Since there are no external forces in the x direction the velocity is constant, but in the y direction there is a gravity.

So by using your kinematic equations and knowing the height of the roof and what gravity is you need to solve for the time it takes for the hammer to reach the ground with your initial y velocity and final y velocity which is zero.

You know g, d, vy1 and vy2 and your x velocity

I missed your picture at first and it looks good to me.

good luck
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The text passage contains a physics problem related to projectile motion, specifically about a hammer sliding off a sloped roof. The problem statement, relevant equations, and an attempt at a solution are provided, along with a request for help.

TYPE: SINGLE_QUESTION_WITH_ANSWER

Explanation:
- The passage contains a single mathematical question: "How far from the edge of the roof does the hammer strike the ground?"
- An attempt at solving the problem is provided, including the decomposition of the initial velocity vector and the use of kinematic equations to find the time of flight and horizontal distance. The user also mentions encountering complex numbers for time, which suggests they have attempted to solve the problem but are seeking help to resolve an issue.