Green, The Redcaps other guitarist, joined the Pirates later when Patto left. There were over 13,000 Royal Military Police ("redcaps"). In 1958, the band again changed their name to "Ronnie and the Redcaps". Dunters and redcaps may have been conceived as spirits of the original foundation sacrifices. However, Lulu had beaten The Redcaps to the British charts with her version of "Shout".