Waters has referred to himself as a "neo-Luddite" or later as a "luddite". As a result, Luddite anti-technological working class revolutionaries are ruthlessly suppressed. Postman, however, did not consider himself a Luddite and loathed being associated with the term. These counter-movements, that included, for example, the Luddite rebellions, are the incipient socialist movements. Adapted from the "Luddite" liner notes. The first attacks of the Luddite movement began in 1811. Horsfall had remarked that he would "Ride up to his saddle in Luddite blood". It is believed that Brandreth was involved in Luddite activities in 1811. The Luddite disturbances began in November 1811. If that is a Luddite perspective, then so be it. He is critical of technology and has been called a Luddite. The name Luddite () is of uncertain origin.