More recently, the philosophers John McDowell and Richard Rorty have taken explicitly quietist positions. Pyrrhonism represents perhaps the earliest example of an identifiably quietist position in the West. He generally followed a quietist political stance toward the Abbasid political establishment. The dhikr of South Asian Muslims is "quietist". He was a prominent advocate of quietist Quaker theology. The spiritual are not just abstract, quietist mystics; they are for the world. Fortescue translated the Greek words and as "quiet" and "quietist". The apparent Quietist victory, however, was short-lived. Other, quietist Friends believed in not breaking an earthly government's law. The quietist tradition obviously rests on the Prophet as sovereign, as judge and statesman. Under Saddam Hussein he adopted a quietist approach, avoiding politics and confrontation with the government.