Betting can start with an ante or forced bet. If the player hand loses, both the ante and play wagers are lost. Efforts have however been made to return to status quo ante. Poker without blinds is usually played with everyone posting an ante to receive cards. The effect is a return to the status quo ante. Manuel II's final years saw his gains wasted and the Empire "status quo ante" 1391. In effect, it results in a return to the "status quo ante". The term has been generalized to form the phrases "status quo" and "status quo ante". Traditionalists ("Status quo ante") were the smallest of the three, mainly in the North. It is always played with an ante and no blinds. There is no requirement for ex ante approval of donations with political objects. Unconstrained Coasean bargaining ex post may also lead to a hold-up problem ex ante. The leader must know "ex ante" that the follower observes its action. Hold'em events employed the Big Blind Ante format. The Fisher equation applies both "ex ante" and "ex post".