{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/plk/biblatex/issues/540","repository_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/plk/biblatex","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/plk/biblatex/issues/540/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/plk/biblatex/issues/540/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/plk/biblatex/issues/540/events","html_url":"https://github.com/plk/biblatex/issues/540","id":211876894,"number":540,"title":"Datetime. Ranges: Unknowns, Opens, and Unspecifieds.","user":{"login":"JohnLukeBentley","id":18357541,"avatar_url":"https://avatars2.githubusercontent.com/u/18357541?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley","html_url":"https://github.com/JohnLukeBentley","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[],"state":"open","locked":false,"assignee":{"login":"plk","id":1220851,"avatar_url":"https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/1220851?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk","html_url":"https://github.com/plk","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"assignees":[{"login":"plk","id":1220851,"avatar_url":"https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/1220851?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk","html_url":"https://github.com/plk","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/plk/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},{"login":"moewew","id":6755835,"avatar_url":"https://avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/6755835?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/moewew","html_url":"https://github.com/moewew","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/moewew/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/moewew/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/moewew/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/moewew/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/moewew/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/moewew/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/moewew/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/moewew/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/moewew/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false}],"milestone":null,"comments":29,"created_at":"2017-03-04T12:33:45Z","updated_at":"2017-10-30T01:14:23Z","closed_at":null,"author_association":"NONE","body":"We might want to review ranges output.\r\n\r\nSee [Gist-Biblatex-Ranges-Basic.tex](https://gist.github.com/JohnLukeBentley/3320cb29b45a78f2876c0e79bfbfba23), with the `bib` included as `filecontents`.\r\n\r\nThat spits out a 2 page pdf with three range sections: Unknown, Open, and Unspecified.\r\n\r\nNote particular options that I've set as follows:\r\n\r\n    alldates=ymd, \r\n    labeldate=ymd, \r\n    mergedate=false\r\n\r\nWhen the date(time) is a range we probably want to output it as such:\r\n\r\n* For in-text citations. For example for `unknown/2006` I get `(Simpson n.d.[a])` when perhaps we should have `(Simpson unknown/2006a)`, or `(Simpson unknown/2006)` - using 'unknown' or 'open' as appropriate.\r\n\r\n* For references. For example for \"open/2004-01-01\" I get\r\n\r\n      Simpson, Lisa (n.d.[a]). Cool Book 0097. /2004-01-01.\r\n\r\n  ... when we should perhaps get ...\r\n\r\n      Simpson, Lisa (open/2004-01-01). Cool Book 0097. open/2004-01-01.\r\n\r\n  ... or, if we changed the options such that `labeldate=year` ...\r\n\r\n      Simpson, Lisa (open/2004). Cool Book 0097. open/2004-01-01.\r\n\r\nAll this is before considering mergedate issues (`mergedate=false` above)."},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/plk/biblatex/issues/comments/340319471","html_url":"https://github.com/plk/biblatex/issues/540#issuecomment-340319471","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/plk/biblatex/issues/540","id":340319471,"user":{"login":"JohnLukeBentley","id":18357541,"avatar_url":"https://avatars2.githubusercontent.com/u/18357541?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley","html_url":"https://github.com/JohnLukeBentley","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/JohnLukeBentley/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2017-10-30T01:14:23Z","updated_at":"2017-10-30T01:14:23Z","author_association":"NONE","body":"@plk thanks for the coding kung-fu.\r\n\r\n@moewew I'm not sure why I wasn't seeing the 'nodate' problem you've illustrated. Something strange at my end. Anyway I did, finally, see the problem. With @plk's changes I now get, with the original [Gist-Biblatex-Ranges-Basic.tex](https://gist.github.com/JohnLukeBentley/3320cb29b45a78f2876c0e79bfbfba23), with `labeldate=ymd`...\r\n\r\n![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/18357541/32150553-b10995e6-bd68-11e7-8028-f6eb940e2fc6.png)\r\n\r\nI think that's close to solving it (it at least gets rid of the 'nodate' issue). But note with `labeldate=year` I get ...\r\n\r\n![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/18357541/32150629-7f000714-bd69-11e7-85d0-fcaa0a95a18b.png)\r\n\r\nSo looking at the first unknown citation result we have:\r\n\r\n* For  `labeldate=ymd`: \"(Simpson [a]/2006)\"; and \r\n* For  `labeldate=year`: \"(Simpson /2006[a])\"\r\n\r\nI haven't been quite getting up to speed on the `extradate`/`extrayear`/ `\\DeclareExtradate` details but the above would be an inconsistent and undesirable result (no?).\r\n\r\n"}}
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