{"action":"created","issue":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/w3c/mnx/issues/44","repository_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/w3c/mnx","labels_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/w3c/mnx/issues/44/labels{/name}","comments_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/w3c/mnx/issues/44/comments","events_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/w3c/mnx/issues/44/events","html_url":"https://github.com/w3c/mnx/issues/44","id":282129065,"number":44,"title":"Lack of support for ABC Notation / Re-inventing the wheel","user":{"login":"leesavide","id":1916661,"avatar_url":"https://avatars2.githubusercontent.com/u/1916661?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/leesavide","html_url":"https://github.com/leesavide","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/leesavide/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/leesavide/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/leesavide/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/leesavide/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/leesavide/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/leesavide/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/leesavide/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/leesavide/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/leesavide/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"labels":[],"state":"closed","locked":false,"assignee":null,"assignees":[],"milestone":null,"comments":1,"created_at":"2017-12-14T14:59:59Z","updated_at":"2017-12-14T15:52:29Z","closed_at":"2017-12-14T15:52:29Z","author_association":"NONE","body":"Not to put a damper on a good idea, but...\r\n\r\nWeb-based music notation already exists. Please see <https://abcnotation.com/>.  Also, see a working implementation of ABC music notation to SVG transformation via JavaScript here: <http://moinejf.free.fr/abcm2ps-doc/au_clair.xhtml>, which also plays the tune when clicked.\r\n\r\nMusicXML and any derivatives from it have the downside of treating music notation as a document format, when they ought to treat it as a formal language with grammar and syntax. This allows new users to learn music notation while reading the language & using it in score writing applications. ABC notation does that, and has been doing that, since 1991."},"comment":{"url":"https://api.github.com/repos/w3c/mnx/issues/comments/351750775","html_url":"https://github.com/w3c/mnx/issues/44#issuecomment-351750775","issue_url":"https://api.github.com/repos/w3c/mnx/issues/44","id":351750775,"user":{"login":"joeberkovitz","id":165916,"avatar_url":"https://avatars1.githubusercontent.com/u/165916?v=4","gravatar_id":"","url":"https://api.github.com/users/joeberkovitz","html_url":"https://github.com/joeberkovitz","followers_url":"https://api.github.com/users/joeberkovitz/followers","following_url":"https://api.github.com/users/joeberkovitz/following{/other_user}","gists_url":"https://api.github.com/users/joeberkovitz/gists{/gist_id}","starred_url":"https://api.github.com/users/joeberkovitz/starred{/owner}{/repo}","subscriptions_url":"https://api.github.com/users/joeberkovitz/subscriptions","organizations_url":"https://api.github.com/users/joeberkovitz/orgs","repos_url":"https://api.github.com/users/joeberkovitz/repos","events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/joeberkovitz/events{/privacy}","received_events_url":"https://api.github.com/users/joeberkovitz/received_events","type":"User","site_admin":false},"created_at":"2017-12-14T15:52:29Z","updated_at":"2017-12-14T15:52:29Z","author_association":"COLLABORATOR","body":"Thanks -- we're well aware of both ABC notation, and also of other web-based approaches transforming notation markup into SVG (notably www.verovio.com).\r\n\r\nWe're continuing to work on MNX not because web-based notation doesn't exist, but because it doesn't serve enough of our use cases, which have been documented here: https://w3c.github.io/mnx/use-cases/\r\n\r\nBoth MusicXML and MNX impose a document grammar, but I would say that any digital encoding of conventional music notation that can address the full complexity of the canon, will not be the best way to help users learn notation. ABC will still have its place in the world as a simple way to notate simple scores by hand.\r\n\r\nI suggest you keep following this project and consider ways that ABC notation can fit into it, understanding that we neither aim to replace ABC, nor do we regard the wheel we're working on as \"already invented\" :-)\r\n"}}
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