For just as it is ridiculous to advise men not to feel pain when they are struck or not to take pleasure in eating while hungry, so the Stoics are wrong; or perhaps they are joking with us, when they exhon us not to be afflicted at the death of a father, the loss of our goods, exile, prison, and other such things, nor to be delighted with good success in our business, for we are tied to our country, our goods, our parents, and so on, by a natural union that does not now depend on our will.