But the oedipalists are not saying anything different from this when they remark that an actual deprivation or frustration cannot be experienced except in the midst of an older internal qualitative conflict, which blocks not merely the roads prohibited by reality, but also those that reality leaves open and that the ego forbids itself in its turn (the double impasse formula): Could one find examples illustrating the diagram of actual neuroses in the prisoner or the concentration camp victim or the worker harassed by work?