Haven't we also said some time ago that when the soul makes use of the body to investigate something, be it through hearing or seeing or some other sense for to investigate something through the body is to do it Phaedo through the senses it is dragged by the body to the things that are never the same, and the soul itself strays and is confused and dizzy, as if it were drunk, in so far as it is in contact with that kind of thing?