Hon Scott Simpson: I raise a point of order, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, you've made a ruling. But, under intense provocation from the Minister—uncalled for provocation from the Minister—my colleague Barbara Kuriger responded, as she is entitled to do, and I don't think she should be called out for it. But the Minister should be encouraged not to be unnecessarily provocative in a debate that shouldn't be taking place in the manner in which it is, led by him at the moment.