Hon NATHAN GUY: I can hear David Seymour saying, indeed, it was a disaster. Reading through the facts, it's estimated by the New Zealand Police there are 1.2 million or 1.5 million firearms in New Zealand and the amnesty yielded something like 56,000. So we know that there is a hell of a lot of weapons in New Zealand that are in the hands of unlicensed individuals. And that is a real concern. 