Hon MICHAEL WOOD: Firstly, I would question some of the figures that the member uses. He might have got them from Paul Goldsmith's spreadsheet, I think. Secondly, I would note that, actually, some of those inter-regional bus services that Mr Court refers to have, in fact, received Government support through the Essential Transport Connectivity scheme over the past three years. Thirdly, I would note that it is exactly the wrong time for members opposite to propose that we get rid of public transport services as we face down a climate emergency. I know it is deeply ingrained in the politics of the right wing of New Zealand to be vehemently opposed to any investment in rail, walking, and cycling, but as we try and reduce emissions in our country, we have to start walking the walk. [Interruption]