Hon PAUL GOLDSMITH (National): Thank you, Madam Chair. Just in relation to the Minister's answer to my first question, I'll ask my question again because he didn't answer it. He just talked a little bit about history and then about the National Party's history. I want to know what does he believe the Treaty requires in terms of decision making in the educational context, because we've heard today what the Prime Minister and the Minister of Health believe it means in decision making in the health context, where there are poor Māori outcomes. There are also poor Māori outcomes in education, and I want a clear answer from him, not an attack on the National Party or on history, just a clear understanding of what his policy is today.