NICOLA WILLIS: Well, OK. So the members opposite think gangs do good in communities. So was that the Mongrel Mob member who was jailed for the fatal hammer attack, or was that the one who opened fire on a cop, hit a taxi driver, and carjacked the vehicle? We don't think these are good things, and when people like that have access to guns, more harm can be done. So we don't want to see gangs being able to do that. That's why Simeon Brown has put forward this excellent piece of legislation, and it is my pleasure to support it. 