Now, the previous speaker talked about the fact of being quite amazed at people coming forward and feeling that sense of shame. That is something that I absolutely know from personal experience that those women felt. I know that I had that same sense of dread when I had to go to my employer and tell my employer, who knew that I was pregnant, that I had lost my baby. I didn't even want to have to articulate the words in that first instance, and I think that I'm still feeling that grief today, and that's 27 years later that I still feel that grief. So to say that these are just moments in time or that you will get over it is not correct, and that is what we heard from every single submitter who shared their personal experience during the select committee process.