SIMON WATTS (National—North Shore): Thank you very much, Madam Chair. I wanted to move on to a different section of Subpart 2, and that is in regards to clause 20, which relates to penalties relating to individual contracts. The specific clauses that I'm interested in there are 1AAA and 1AAB in particular, in regards to noting that "An engager is liable to a penalty under this Act if the engager enters into an individual contract that includes a term that has the effect of breaching …", and then 1AAB, again, relating to those penalties. My questions are in regards to the scope of these penalties, and seeking clarification from the Minister in terms of how does he see this these new arrangements working in practice, particularly around the penalty aspect.