TANGI UTIKERE (Labour—Palmerston North): Tēnā koe, Mr Speaker. Thank you. I'm happy to take a call on this, and can I firstly congratulate the member Mark Cameron on having the bill drawn from the ballot—quite a feat to achieve as a new member, I know. I have to say that the member who's just resumed her seat, Barbara Kuriger, I've worked closely with in select committee, and I appreciate her efforts for sure, but, on this, it may come as no surprise that we will have a divergent view than the one that she has expressed. I want to just note that my parliamentary colleague Rachel Brooking, who otherwise would be making comments on this particular bill—and I'll try and perhaps channel some of her thinking in this particular space, shall we say.