So that then leads to a whole range of consequential impacts, not the least of which is the situation regarding the potential for much more exotic afforestation of the countryside than many people feel comfortable with. It's on that point, at this stage in the debate, that I'm keen to know from the Minister in the chair: does he feel that this legislation actually poses a risk to primary production, particularly our export-led primary producers—in that, if the carbon price is increased, as his announcement yesterday indicates that it will be, with the cap moving to $35 a tonne, will that actually provide an incentive for further afforestation and, potentially, create an environment where it's financially viable and profitable for carbon farmers to plant pine trees on land that, up till now, has been producing grass and the associated primary products that come from sheep and beef and cattle farming?