It's not my view; it's all in writing. Look through the parliamentary questions on three dates: Pharmac people who had knowledge of the extra vaccines sat in the same room with the Ministry of Health and said nothing. They let them try and figure their way through a campaign where they understood there were not enough vaccines, but Pharmac knew there were. Pharmac's reply to this, when they say in the written question, "We're a Crown agency and we make independent funding decisions.", is code for Pharmac is omnipotent. Pharmac is above everyone. Pharmac doesn't have to tell Ministers or director-generals. Pharmac played God, and that is not their role. The Minister herself put in writing that knowledge of those extra 30,000 vaccines was important and it was useful. Pharmac must be held accountable for this. We cannot let them keep important information secret from the ministry, secret from the Minister, from people who are forming a response to a really urgent infectious disease outbreak. An apology to Northland parents and some evidence of change would be a start.