Hon TIM MACINDOE: Thank you, Madam Speaker—but also because of his 12 years of dedicated service as the member for Rotorua, and I do wish to convey his greetings and his apology for being unable to take his call this afternoon. But I do so with particular pleasure, because it's not often I get to rise in this House and reflect on my previous history as the chief executive of the Music and Arts Waikato Trust, as it was then known, better known as Arts Waikato, which no longer exists—I don't think because they couldn't cope without me, but they merged into the entity that is now Creative Waikato. And, of course, with our very close links to our neighbouring cousins in Rotorua, this is something that I, personally, welcome.