Hon JAMES SHAW: Absolutely. The ETS is an important tool in the climate change toolbox, but we need to use the whole toolbox. That's why this Government has invested billions of dollars in clean transport options like cycling, buses, trains; required default KiwiSaver providers to stop investing in fossil fuels; banned new oil and gas exploration; started replacing coal boilers in schools and hospitals with clean heating alternatives; put solar panels on 25 schools, with many more to come; and funded electric vehicle charging stations nationwide, including on the Interislander ferry. And we know that there is more to do, and we will do it.