Hon PAUL GOLDSMITH: Thank you, Mr Chair. I want to refer to the issue around elements supporting the reform of vocational education, simplifying qualifications and credentials. I suppose the issue there is it's in the context of what we in this House would regard as a slow-moving train wreck of the reform of vocational education, where what we had was a very effective set of polytechs around the country, some of them being in financial distress and others of them doing extremely well and serving their community very well. This Government's impulse towards centralisation meant that their answer to every problem is to nationalise everything and have one rule for all and to lump everything into one organisation. Then, two years on and hundreds of millions of dollars later, we have a combined institution with a deficit larger than ever before—$110 million so far, probably much worse—and then what we have here in relation to proposed legislative changes around simplifying qualifications and setting up microcredentials. I remember when I was tertiary Minister five or six years ago, we were talking about microcredentials. I'm glad we've finally made some progress, five years on. 