But another problem, the submitters told us, is inequity. We had somebody who had had two abortions in their life. This woman had had one whilst living in a smaller provincial centre in her late teens and another later in life in a larger metropolitan city in her late 20s. The difficulty and the rigmarole and the trauma that she went through were like night and day. Doing it in provincial New Zealand; having to travel, as we've had so well described by Amy Adams in her excellent speech; being able to make it work and get through a second certifying consultant with all the rigmarole that our current law requires was incredibly difficult. Doing it in a large, metropolitan city in her late 20s was somewhat easier but still needlessly difficult.