CHRIS PENK (National—Kaipara ki Mahurangi): Thank you very much, Mr Chair. I'm grateful to have a further call, mostly because the Minister didn't provide what I thought was a very satisfactory answer to the committee of the whole House. I pointed out that the duty to act independently in clause 16A says that the Minister of the Crown can't direct the monitor to stop carrying out an activity. And the Minister said, "Well, don't worry, because the Minister's still responsible for making sure that the monitor carries out their duties in accordance with the legislation." Well, that's utterly at odds with what it says here. They can't stop them carrying out an activity. And the only test within this clause is that the monitor considers it necessary to enable them to perform or exercise their functions. So if the monitor, however wrongheadedly, thinks that it's OK to do a certain thing, even though that's not consistent with the legislation, while the Minister would have us believe that because it's not consistent with the legislation, the Minister can intervene. In fact, the very words within clause 16A—the new ones that she wants to insert via the Supplementary Order Paper (SOP)—don't allow that. So that's the first thing.