When I challenged James Shaw in this House about what technology was available to help farmers, he wasn't privy to the fact that $200 million hadn't created anything in my world, in the world of farmers. And that was Bovaer had sat on the desk of the Environmental Protection Authority for 13 months. We need honest dialogue and it's got to be genuine. What other technologies is this Government slow-walking in this process? ACT absolutely believes this is a technology before tax. The fundamental reality is that New Zealand farmers, and I am one, are the best bloody farmers in the world. We will absolutely find the technology to mitigate our emissions if we have the liberalisation of regulations to allow us to do it.