This week, we hear the announcement that there will be another $41 billion borrowed. When the finance Minister, Mr Robertson, says that people don't understand that we are not actually borrowing the money, this week, what we're doing is being allowed to spend it, what he forgets to tell the public is the Government is still running at a loss. They spend more than they earn. They only earn from the taxpayer when people pay taxes, and so it must be borrowed. If they hadn't have spent the $56 billion that they gave themselves to spend on COVID last year, and that some of it was still there this year because it hadn't been spent on things that were not COVID-related, they wouldn't be coming back to Parliament and going back to the public and saying, "We need another $41 billion for COVID because the kitty is bare." That is about $147,000 borrowed for every person in New Zealand.