Hon LOUISE UPSTON: Well, the Minister hasn't said that explicitly. That's not the expectation of what's in the bill, and that's what we want to see explicitly—a parental exemption. So young people should be able to seek advice. Young people should be able to seek advice of their families as well as others, and we don't want them excluded or criminalised, which is completely what is in the bill as written. It's a complete deviation from what was originally considered—