Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: I do accept that New Zealand has responded strongly to a one-in-one-hundred-year global economic shock to support New Zealanders' lives and livelihoods. I also accept that members of the Opposition have often called for us to spend even more in those particular areas. I also accept that the OECD has remarked upon the fact that New Zealand continues to have a very strong fiscal strategy, including one of the lowest levels of debt in the OECD. 