VANUSHI WALTERS (Labour—Upper Harbour): Thank you, Mr Speaker, for the opportunity to take a brief call. One thing I would agree on is that we do share a concern for community safety across this House, but there is a difference: when it comes to that side of the House and justice and community safety issues, that side are about reacting and often performing. On this side of the House, we're about responding responsibly. Our response is based on the evidence, including what occasionally the lack of evidence tells us about the effectiveness, or not, of policy. There is a lack of evidence here and that tells a story as well.