Hon TODD McCLAY (National—Rotorua): I thank the Minister in the chair, Meka Whaitiri, for her response in as far as India is concerned, but is she aware that New Zealand wine exporters to India can pay hundreds of percent in tariffs over the export price? Our kiwifruit producers that want to sell Kiwifruit into India pay a very, very high tariff. Does she think it's good enough to New Zealand producers to say, "Well, India left—it's a shame, but the door's still open to them." Is that what she means by the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP), that New Zealand's trade policy now is: where a country doesn't want to talk to us, they can come back if they want to, but in the meantime our exporters actually are not competitive in those markets and they can't do well? If that's the case, this would be one of the worst trade policies this House has ever seen.