They talk very proudly of how they are helping people out of poverty. They talk about the minimum wage increase as if that is the panacea to fix everything. They don't say that, actually, rents have gone up $140 a week over the last 4½ years, and they haven't scratched the surface with the minimum-wage increases. Those that have the least in New Zealand have even less because of the cost of living and how quickly it's escalating. And, actually, the costs they're placing on businesses make it harder—harder—for those businesses to survive. This isn't actually a debate about whether the minimum wage should go up or not; it's that Government action actually pushes prices up. And the $145 a week extra, when it comes to rents that people are paying around the country, is the reason that we have unprecedented numbers of people in motels, and the reason that there aren't enough houses is because the Government is then buying those houses because the individuals themselves cannot afford them.