I think that this is a really important reflection, on the Hansard, only several years ago, to bring to the Chamber tonight, because that contribution was of course from John Banks, the former leader of the ACT Party, who also in that contribution went on to say—and I quote: "Live animal exports need to be very closely monitored—indeed, if they are necessary at all, and I am not convinced." This, of course, was during a debate in a 2015 amendment bill on the Animal Welfare Act, which was celebrated and introduced by the then National Government Minister Nathan Guy, and inserted what we now know as the welfares or the wellbeings inside of the Animal Welfare Act. That night, Nathan Guy said—and I quote: "I am very pleased to speak on the third reading of the Animal Welfare Amendment Bill. Animal welfare matters to [all] New Zealanders. It matters because we know that animals are sentient—capable of having feelings, perceptions, and experiences."