So we saw private enterprise pastoral lease farmers managing and doing a fantastic job of managing noxious weeds, and that's what a wilding pine is, it's a noxious weed. I can tell you, Madam Speaker—I know you've seen it for yourself—I could not believe, once we got close to Hanmer Springs, the absolute area overtaken by wilding pines was unbelievable, and it is on its way. It's heading up—we could see on the next ridge over, trees just getting to the top of it. Once they get to the top, that seed rain will go a long way in the wind. They're not quite there yet; they will get there in the next year or so, and they won't stop till they get to Kaikōura. It is an environmental disaster. That is why I think this bill is so short-sighted. Leave the farmers to continue to do it.