Now, am I saying that every aspect of the Government's response is perfect? Of course not. Because no Government in the world had a playbook for how to deal with this. But isn't it interesting that Governments around the world made the decision to look after their people, and to look after their citizens? I remember standing in this House in both March 2020 and then again in May 2020, where I stood up and said, "Yes, there are different ways of approaching a crisis like this". We've seen that in New Zealand's history, and we saw it when those who prefer austerity in these situations, which is, essentially, what Mr Seymour is saying; he doesn't care whether people lose their jobs, he doesn't think we need to fund public services properly. That is the counterfactual, that's the approach—the austerity approach. Now, sure, Mr Seymour can propose that. But what I said that day in March 2020, when we did the first package to respond to COVID, and again when we did the Budget in May 2020, was I was not prepared to run the risk of New Zealanders losing their jobs, losing their homes, people not being able to continue to run their businesses. 