Very quickly, we've got to have a conversation about He Waka Eke Noa and the emissions trading scheme (ETS). We at the ACT Party said that farmers shouldn't be in any pricing scheme until all the calculables, all the measurables, all the on-farm sequestration is given consideration to. Farmers need the tools. They need the methane vaccines and inhibitors. We've got to have an honest conversation about the ETS and farmers' inclusion in it or He Waka Eke Noa. Forget the slogans on this side of the House. We know they simply don't add up.