Hon WILLIE JACKSON: As I said, He Puapua is a starting document. It's starting the conversation. We want all New Zealanders to participate in that conversation. There are three areas: He Puapua, the plan, and the declaration. The National Party have forgotten that they have signed up to this declaration. In 2014, they talked about a plan, then they forgot the plan. The National Party have also forgotten that they agree with probably 85 percent of our views in terms of te ao Māori, as Judith Collins has said many times. They support Whānau Ora, they support the Treaty settlements process, they support kōhanga reo, and it's really disgraceful how they've been handling this subject.