I just want to come back to your proposal that the costs of improving the three waters infrastructure will be between $120 billion and $180 billion. Last week the Finance and Expenditure Committee went to Hawke's Bay—a majority of Labour members on the committee and a couple of Opposition members—and we heard from mana whenua groups, from rūnanga, from iwi, we also heard from the Hawke's Bay councils who were at the epicentre of the Havelock North water quality issue, which is supposed to have led to many people becoming ill and potentially some people dying. So this is very important to them. This is what they told us: after that event, they got together with Government, and Government said, "Could you form a regional alliance to work out where the weaknesses are in your water system, and then come up with a plan to fix them, and we'll fund it." And that's what they did. They engaged with mana whenua, with iwi, and hapū, and they worked out exactly what were the values to the community, including to Māori communities, to individual marae, and they've addressed their water quality issues to address community needs as a whole.