Talking to the governance group a little earlier this week, I want to use their words to this House about the importance of this ministry. They feel they have been nurtured. They feel that they are able to grow, that this ministry will have heart and meaning. They say it will have a strong foundation. They commend this Government for the long strides it is taking into supporting disabled people and tangata whaikaha Māori. They talk about the train. And in that conversation, I did say to them: "I don't think this is a train, because trains have carriages that can be picked off, much like the ACT Party and National Party would do with this particular ministry." I have said that, for me, it is about the double-hulled canoe; it is about the waka, where you can have different views but you travel together in the same direction.