I really want to speak, too, to the point, and to recall that quote from Moana Jackson, around the harm of colonisation and how deeply entangled with our child protection services it is, and to acknowledge that what we've heard from Minister Sepuloni is, "Well, there were 22 hui in 2019. That's our commitment to honouring Te Tiriti. That's partnership." Those hui were before the Waitangi Tribunal reported. That was before the Whānau Ora inquiry into abuse in care, before the ombudsman report, before the Children's Commissioner's two reports around what is happening in our child protection system. People, there was no engagement with Māori after that evidence was on the table, and there is no evidence of formal Te Tiriti engagement with Māori after the bill was drafted. That is not partnership.