Hon MARAMA DAVIDSON (Associate Minister of Housing): Thank you, Mr Chair. If I could please pick up again on the really important question that Debbie Ngarewa-Packer asked about children and tamariki attending school who are homeless. What I have got here is children in emergency housing: as at 31 July 3,813. Why I bring that to the floor is because we should never ever be desensitised to, or normalising, anyone having to live in unacceptable conditions, but of course, especially any tamariki.