GINNY ANDERSEN (Labour—Hutt South): Thank you very much to the member. Interestingly, as well as COVID happening since this bill received its first reading in the House, we've also passed legislation specific to abortion and removing that from the Crimes Act. So I think it's well raised by the member that we clarify that this bill excludes abortion. I, as the member in charge of the bill, was very keen for this not to become tied into the wider abortion debate, which has subsequently taken place. The recommendation also that we received was that it would be clear that abortions are excluded from the bill and that it was specific to miscarriage and to stillbirth. We sought, and I was very happy to receive, support from all parties within this House on the basis that we would focus on the areas of the law that we could change in agreement, and I'm pleased to be able to continue to do that.