Hon KIRITAPU ALLAN: On behalf of the Minister for Oceans and Fisheries, I can confirm that I am in regular contact with the formidable Minister for Conservation and we engage closely in discussions about a range of issues. I'm aware that the new Māui dolphin estimate is 54, but, as said before, I am confident that the advice that I have received is that there is a high degree of certainty that there is currently a close to zero risk that fishing has to the Māui dolphin mortality rates, and if I do receive evidence to the contrary, I can impose further restrictions.