We were sort of interested in drawing together, like we've done here with coronavirus, other health professionals who could help us with the emergency that was in front of us. So we asked questions around "Have you ever authorised pharmacists to give the measles vaccines?" Whanganui: "No, due to lack of vaccine supply." I won't make my way through the Whanganui example—although it talks about influenza in the same sort of breath, I would add—but consistently we were told last year there is no shortage of vaccines, and, yet, there clearly were. We've been told here now there is no shortage of PPE, and I contend there were.