So I think it's, in my view, fine for MPs who are full-time to be subject to pecuniary interests registers and made public, and I think Tangi Utikere himself talked about the Palmerston North City Council one, which, to the best of my knowledge, is not made public—and probably a very good model, actually—and I'm sure there are plenty of other councils who have varying forms of pecuniary interests declarations. The Mayor of Tararua felt that her council dealt completely adequately with it, and I'm pretty sure her councillors would be paid less than $20,000 each a year to be councillors. So I can't imagine them being that keen on declaring their body and souls to stand for the council if this piece of legislation goes through.