Hon CHRIS HIPKINS (Minister of Police): I thank the member for her very reasonable questions and I know that this is an issue that she cares a lot about, and it is an issue that I have been looking very closely at. The member will be familiar with the fact that we have a challenge in the way firearms licensing operates in New Zealand as a result of a decision by Government several decades ago to move from lifetime firearms licences to licences that need to be renewed every 10 years. The result of that is that every 10 years we get a spike in the number of people applying to have their firearms licences renewed. And whilst the age profile of that particular group, that particular cohort, is suggesting that eventually that would dissipate, the reality is there's still probably several decades more if we don't do something to flatten the curve and smooth that out. 