So I'd like the Minister to actually stand, tell us exactly how many people are inside the retail crime unit, exactly what they've done to start to get control of these ram raids and this violent retail crime, and actually maybe inject a little bit of honesty into it, because I'm going to go back to Operation Tauwhiro, where we saw exactly the same pattern emerge with this Government, where they get up and they say, "Our response to the gang violence and the drive by shootings is Operation Tauwhiro." Operation Tauwhiro was never established to deal with gang violence; it was established to gather information.