Hon SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel): We've just had eight minutes of a speech from Fletcher Tabuteau, the soon-to-be retired New Zealand First member. It took me all of seven minutes and 45 seconds to find out whether he was actually supporting the bill or not. It was typical of a New Zealand First speech—one that is hard to define and hard to quantify and hard to actually understand what point the member was trying to make; grab bags of bits and pieces from Winston Peters' speeches still ringing in his ear from their modestly attended conference at the weekend.