These international rankings matter—yes, they matter—because these international rankings are important for us to attract international investment. We are a small country; we need people from other countries investing in research and development here. We need that investment to support our entrepreneurs here in New Zealand. We also want to see that more people are able to collaborate with other researchers and entrepreneurs overseas, and these rankings matter because when you go out to collaborate with other scientists or innovators, they want to collaborate with somebody who is at that equal level. But New Zealand doesn't look like it's doing well, because if you see the countries that are behind New Zealand now in this recent innovation index ranking—no, it's not looking good. These innovation index rankings clearly show the health of our economy and the ability of our economy to support innovation, and it's not looking good. 