Hon STUART NASH (Minister of Police): I'm going to answer the questions put to me and certainly address the Supplementary Order Papers (SOPs) tabled by that member—that's SOP 449 on pest control and SOP 450 on sport shooters. I just want to make one thing clear before I start. Keeping in mind the aim of this legislation is to keep the guns out of the hands of the bad people, and, as that member alluded to, I think in his opening sentence, how the bad guys get these guns is by stealing them off the good guys. If we remove these guns from our communities, by and large, they can't fall into the hands of the bad guys. So what we want to achieve here is to limit the number of people who actually have access to these guns.