I think it is also useful to link that, which I'm sure would have come up in a submission, but the Productivity Commission, who's been looking at these policies recently, has looked at the fact that in New Zealand, relative to other countries, we really are just so out of step with other countries around the world. OECD countries place little or no obligation on employers to pay redundancy, but New Zealand is unusual in having neither mandatory redundancy pay entitlements, except for certain vulnerable workers, nor any earnings-related element in its income support system, and that this also was referenced by WEAG. 