So how do we pull back from those extremes? We pull back from those extremes in the space of sensible regulation, which brings us back to the point of how we go about having the same kind of discussion—what seems like a very rational discussion that we're having today—about all of the substances in this country, which then has flow-on effects with regard to our criminal justice system and our prison population, but also, importantly, reducing things like methamphetamine harm and the potential harm that is caused by people having to go underground in order to get access to cannabis, something that, notably, more than half a million New Zealanders do on a regular basis. It is really interesting and fascinating and amazing to hear the National Party talking about how they're evidence based in this approach, because they are, of course, also the same party that stood against all of the same things that they spoke about so positively in this legislation—they were opposed when it came to the cannabis legalisation and control bill.