Hon MICHAEL WOOD: The Government announced a significant package of initiatives which will assist New Zealanders to meet cost challenges and to be able to connect in a more affordable way, including significant reductions to the fuel excise duty and road-user charges, and the half-price public transport fares over that period. As ever, we have to consider carefully the priorities that we have, where expenditure will go, and what will achieve the best effect. I do note that there are some complexities involved in shifting towards a fare-free system. One that has been raised with me by local government, for example, is that one of the benefits of people having to pay fares, whether it's via ticket or whether it's via card, is that we collect good patronage data, which enables services to be better planned, and that would be potentially lost if there were free fares. So it's about priorities, it's about where the investment best goes to get the outcomes we want, and it's about some of these complexities that aren't always obvious on the surface.