Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: I'm really interested to note that the Leader of the Opposition's definition on overspending is actually investing in a health system that delivers for New Zealand—is actually investing in an education system—and what we have from the Opposition is the continuation of the Bermuda Triangle, where they somehow think they can cut taxes, reduce debt, and increase spending. Just today, Mr Luxon said he wanted to increase defence spending. Where's that money coming from, Mr Luxon?