Hon KRIS FAAFOI (Minister of Justice): I'd more than welcome an opportunity to sit down with the Green Party to discuss such alternative methods around sentencing. I think I'll reiterate the point that I made earlier: there does need to be a circuit breaker around the overrepresentation of some communities both in offending and victimisation. I think we're slowly getting there. I fear that it will be, again, a political football, but speaking quite personally as someone who has either had family members or people he's grown up with find themselves on the wrong side of the law, I think it's high time that this place found the sweet spot that made available alternative methods and also other ways to make sure that drivers of crime are dealt with so we don't see our courtrooms log-jammed with people, and we also see New Zealanders live the best and fullest possible life. I think for many generations that hasn't been possible because of some of the raruraru that happens in this place, and I would like to see us move beyond that. Quite genuinely, I think, certainly at the Criminal Bar Association Conference earlier, I think, last month, there was a vein of that come through as well. So I think it's not just politics. I think people have seen that there's an opportunity here to deal with these issues.