Hon DAVID BENNETT: OK. Well, the freshwater reforms. Today, we got David Parker coming out and saying that the wetland reforms are a disaster and won't work in practice. We've been telling the Government that since the election. They will not listen, but farmers understand that those rules will not work. We're seeing that in Joseph Mooney's great electorate in the Southland area with the intensive winter grazing rules, which are another complete and utter failure. 