And, in fact, in many cases, it's not clear that those people appointed to the council-controlled organisations—and I'm thinking Wellington Water; I'm thinking Auckland Transport; and, as an Aucklander, I'm thinking about the Auckland Council - controlled organisation that controls the stadiums, which competes with local business that holds events. That actually means that private companies that want to hold events find that they're either undercut by the council-controlled organisation or priced out of the market, because the council-controlled organisation won't let those function centres and event centres to the private sector to carry out their business. And when the local government entity is the biggest kid on the block, you know they have market power well beyond what should be acceptable if they really are focused on good governance, good decision-making for the benefit of their communities.