Hon Dr NICK SMITH: That's right. Those 25,000 people are being treated with disrespect. Now I know that if this was a Māori legal process and these were 25,000 Māori people, there would be screams. There would be howls of horror. There would be almost a hīkoi on the steps of Parliament if we were to do that against 25,000 people. If you truly believe in equal rights of citizenship, then you need to explain why the 25,000 people who have complied with a Labour law in good faith are having their rights taken away by the provisions in this clause.