Hon DAVID PARKER: The member opposite said we just import the coal from Indonesia—that's got absolutely nothing to do with the off-shore oil ban. And the member will be aware that under the New Zealand electricity system, in a dry year we are reliant upon Huntly and supplies of coal for it. Until we get to the point where we can retire Huntly, we'll continue to need it, which reminds me of a question that Simon Court raised that I didn't answer, which was this tension between climate and consenting renewables. That is a very real tension. You can't resolve all of those tensions through legislation because you can't say that all renewables ought to be always consented, because sometimes they ought not to be because there's an alternative project that would be better with less environmental damage. But members will be aware that I'm quite interested in quite a controversial plan down south in respect of Lake Onslow that would be controversial to consent, but should still be able to be properly considered as being part of the energy mix that we need in the future so that we can retire Huntly, for example, and therefore not need to import coal in a dry year. 