Hon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (National): Well, that's us being thoroughly lectured to by the good doctor Deborah Russell. Like her, I was actually offered a role in Audit New Zealand, as it was known then, in the mid-1990s, and rather pertinently I turned it down to work for a KPMG associate in Dunedin. Not because of the money—in fact, I think the starting salary at Audit New Zealand was higher than the KPMG salary—but because of the variety of work and the opportunities for progression.