This bill is also the product of a special person, from the West Coast, interestingly: Maureen Pugh. I think it's a great credit that she's brought this bill to the House as the previous legislation, which Maureen Pugh agitated for at length and was put through by Nick Smith, has expired. Interestingly, despite what we've heard in the House tonight, in the course of that legislation and actions as a result of that legislation, there was no damage done to the conservation land at all. I think some 30,000 or 40,000 cubic metres of damaged native timber was brought out of those forests with absolutely no damage and no costs, I guess, to the conservation estate. 