On that point, I really want him to drill down, in particular, into this abstract notion of the economy, as is often bandied about, particularly with regard to GDP, which I note the Minister for Climate Change actually spoke about prior to becoming the Minister. I remember back in the mists of time—I think it was an op-ed authored for Stuff, potentially—about the fact that GDP, as a measure, is such a flawed measure of the success, the welfare, and the distribution inside of our society. The reason for that is the gross domestic product is literally just a measure of the amount of transactions that we are having inside of our economy. It is not a measure of the quality, of the contribution to, for example, the health of our environment, nor the distribution of them. The point therein is that our GDP can continue to go up, as it was so artificially inflated under that former National Government, as per really poor policy decisions that degrade our environment. 