So I would not disagree—in this document, page 35—that "Now is the time to use our strong fiscal position to respond to COVID-19". I would acknowledge the Minister of Finance, Grant Robertson, in acknowledging both Bill English and Michael Cullen for the work that they've done in the past. I always believe in giving credit where credit is due. It is time to use our strong fiscal position, but the way we respond to this is going to make a big difference. 