He's then gone on to argue that we should devolve the management of the quarantine of international students coming back to New Zealand to the universities—bear in mind that the universities don't think the border should be closed in the first place, and they've actually put that in writing. The stated position of the universities is that there was no justification for closing the border, and the Opposition wants to hand over management of quarantine to them. They are willing to play Russian roulette at the border and put all of the gains that we have made through the sacrifices of 5 million New Zealanders at risk, and that is not something that this Government is willing to do. 