I need to talk about this being good business sense. We've heard from people on the other side of the House talk about the cost when I know, from having grown up in an entrepreneurial household, that the biggest investment an employer can make is in their workers. I know that. And so this is about improving productivity. When you work while you are sick, the evidence is quite clear: your productivity drops by about 20 percent. This is understood elsewhere on the planet. Australia, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Spain, etc., have at least 10 days. We heard evidence from Frog Recruitment—a woman who said that she has given her workers unlimited sick leave. Oh, no, the sky's going to fall in! They're going to be taking leave willy-nilly! But the element of trust actually meant that her workers knew that she believed in them and that they were going to look after themselves and take themselves and their job seriously and they would stay home and get well. And she found that they took fewer sick days. Maybe it had something to do with that they weren't coming into work and getting their co-workers sick. And, very simply, it allows us to meet the societal expectations for reasonable conditions for all workers in New Zealand.