So I was very pleased over the weekend to see the deputy leader of the National Party, Nicola Willis, confirm the National Party's support for that minimum wage. I decided not to make a political point out of that, but just to acknowledge that and say it was good to hear that. But from Mr Luxon today, her leader, on Morning Report this morning, we couldn't get a straight word out of it. When asked time and time again what is his position and what is the position of the National Party on minimum wage, we couldn't get a straight answer, a yes or a no. Do you support that or do you not support that? He's entitled to take either view, of course, but he couldn't take a position. That is a failure of leadership. That is a contrast between that side of the House and this side of the House.