I remember on 18 March in this House, speaking to the Hon Phil Twyford about Sounds Air. Sounds Air had approached me, and they were about to talk to the Minister, and I gave him a heads-up that they were wanting to talk to him. He, to his credit, rang them that night on 18 March. Sounds Air are not unique, other little airlines are in the same position, in that Air New Zealand was getting a $900 million loan from the Government, these businesses were sitting out there unable to carry full loads on their aircraft. No passengers, as we went into level 1, they weren't allowed to fly. So that meant those businesses, their fixed costs, having those aircraft that they own sitting on the ground—yes, the wage subsidy is a great help, but those fixed costs keep eating into their balance sheet. They're a significant issue.