Again, the Minister acknowledges that more recently the board's role has started to change and if we get the right people—I should preface that by saying I don't want to suggest that any individual who's been a member of the Reserve Bank Board in the past was not the right person. But as the board's role starts to change and the oversight by the board has a higher level of acumen for these very complex issues, then the case for the governor being on the board, in my view, is actually somewhat diminished. So it is a bit of a line-ball call and we'll go with it to the degree that we're not going to propose a change to that. But I think the stronger the board's skills in this area are, the greater the oversight they're able to provide on these very technical issues and the less there is a need for the governor—if the governor is a member of the board and the board doesn't know what's being discussed or how complex these issues are, then we've got a bigger problem than just the governor being on the board. And that's why I think Mr Bayly's amendment that would articulate the requisite skills that that board requires certainly warrants careful consideration.