JOSEPH MOONEY: Oh, who knows? I may have—there may be a connection there. So look, I'm familiar with getting up at 4 o'clock in the morning, driving for miles in the back of the van, and then going out in all weathers, pruning trees. You've got to fight your way through blackberry to get tree to tree, and then start pruning from the bottom and pruning your way up. You get the ladder on the tree and then climb up and carry on, and you're often doing this in very steep country. 