Dame Therese Walsh was very interesting. She said this: "So, look, I think the context needs to be put around this, and that is that we were in a trading halt, [they were in a full trading halt] in an extreme situation where our revenue was going from 100 percent to close to zero …. So I think that context is important. We'd made a decision that we needed to approach the Government for a lifeline … There was a discussion and negotiation around the interest rates that you've referred to. And, obviously, as a company, we wish to pay the lowest cost of lending and funding that we can, but the Government also had to take its position and view on that matter. As I've said before, it wasn't the most significant item at that moment. And I agree with you that it's certainly money … we would prefer to keep; however, it was part of the negotiation at … [that] time."