Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: Yes, very good news. For example, in the first six months of this year, the Building and Construction Industry Training Organisation signed up 301 new employers who had never trained before. Compare that to since 1 July, when they've signed up 246 new employers. In other words, 45 percent of the new employers in the building and construction industry taking on new apprentices have joined and signed up for that since this initiative was first announced. For the skills organisation, that number from 1 July is 149. From the primary industry training organisation, that number is 49 new employers. These are all employers who have not previously taken on apprentices and who are now going to be doing so.