The other SOP in Nicole McKee's name is around conversations between parents and children. Can I again reiterate and reinforce clause 5(2), which, through subclauses (b) to (e), goes to the very heart of what is not a conversion practice, and actually goes to the heart of what Mr Court was outlining—again, in a very thoughtful way—because the purpose of this bill is to ensure that we are promoting respectful and open discussions regarding sexuality and gender. I think we all collectively want to agree to that, but through clauses 5(2)(b) to (e), in terms of those conversations that pertain to the SOP, there are certainly protections within this bill to ensure that those conversations continue to happen in an open and a respectful way. 