I discussed this bill with her and she reminded me that it is part of a reset of the Family Court, which, as a review by the Minister Andrew Little in 2019 discovered, has become unbalanced, overstrained, and not responsive, especially to the needs of tamariki Māori. This bill actually reinforces and strengthens responsibilities on professionals, lawyers and mediators, to respect and facilitate children's voices in disputes over their care. That is the heart of this matter: enabling our children's voices to be heard. There is nothing more powerful to a young person than feeling that they have some control over their lives, and when they don't, it can be devastating.