Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: As a percentage of the population on main benefits, my recollection is we're sitting at about 11 percent, which is a lower percentage than what we were during the global financial crisis (GFC). I'd be happy to provide the member with a specific number, although I don't have it with me currently. But the point that I would make is that in times of economic crisis, you would expect the call on our Government support to increase. But relative to the GFC, the call on main benefit rates has been lower.