I also, though, do want to start with a few contributions relating to Melissa Lee's contribution in the debate earlier. The member seems to be confused about the difference between policy and operations, and this is a confusion that she brings to this conversation every time I have engaged in a debate with her where she announces that it is my responsibility as the Minister for the digital economy to be responding to individual cyber-attacks. That's not quite as she would present it. The Minister for our intelligence services leads responses where they are matters of national concern, and that is, of course, Minister Little. As we saw, he led the debate today, giving useful updates and information on the Waikato situation. So I just want to put that on the record for Melissa Lee, just as she returns to this debate. 