We were invited, after these senators had a discussion on the tennis court of Mr Hagaman, to come and speak to them, so we wandered out there. They were doing this because they considered that was the most secure place for them to have a discussion, which is a bit odd these days. They asked us what we knew of Mike Moore and what we thought of him. We were both, I have to say, quite effusive about his commitment to world trade, to the liberalisation of trade, and, as he understood, the benefits of it. So they told us they were going to report back to—I think it was Charlene Barshefsky—the United States trade representative at the time. Wayne Mapp, in his own inimitable way, said, "Why don't you guys just cut it short and split the job?" Now, I don't know whether that's why they did it. I don't want to attribute that to Wayne—it's a very significant achievement—but when, in fact, they did do that, I do think it's a bit of shame that Mike didn't end up taking the second part of that job. I think he'd have been there a lot longer and I think a lot of the momentum that he created in those three years would have made a huge difference to where the world sits today on these matters. 