ANNA LORCK: Madam Speaker, yes. I'm referring to Mr Woodhouse, who has been so very, very concerned about independence. I agree with my colleague Deborah Russell, who talked about this, where Mr Woodhouse was very, very concerned that the independence of the Reserve Bank was going to be compromised. It is for this reason, he says, that the Opposition will not be joining in support of this bill. He is worried about the independence of the Reserve Bank. He feels that we're going to compromise it. However, I agree with Deborah Russell and suggest that it is not a compromise. In fact, it is a changing of a relationship in a way that is appropriate for the times. In fact, there is still plenty of independence for the Reserve Bank.