Hon ANDREW LITTLE: My response is that neither of those bodies understand the detail of the agreements reached with Ngāti Kahungunu ki Wairarapa Tāmaki nui-ā-Rua, and in fact, the return of Crown forest land to that settlement trust was the commitment by that settlement trust to ensure that one of the parties that has a specific claim on a very specific part of the Ngāumu Forest land can participate and exercise their kaitiaki rights, and I'm confident that the settlement trust will forge a strong relationship with that grouping to ensure that their interests and rights over that part of the Ngāumu Forest are observed. The spirit and letter of the pieces of legislation that the Federation of Māori Authorities and the New Zealand Māori Council refer to are being honoured.