PENNY SIMMONDS (National—Invercargill): Thank you, Mr Chair, I appreciate that. I think it's really important that we keep focusing on the children here. The Minister has talked about working groups doing this and that with policy; it is also very important to look at experience. I was an experienced mother who went back to work, I've watched my daughters go back to work after having children, and I've watched thousands and thousands of women retrain to go back to work, in my previous job. So much of going back to work after having children is about confidence. There is nothing in this bill that tells me that women are going to be given more confidence to get back into the workforce eventually. The longer someone is unemployed, the harder it is to re-enter the workforce—that sense of self-worth and that confidence just ebbs away. This is not a compassionate bill.