Let us be clear what this legislation does. Its purpose is to recognise and prevent harm caused by conversion practice and to promote respectful and open discussions regarding sexuality and gender. It deals directly to the falsehood that people's sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression can somehow be fixed. As my straight-shooting colleague Kieran McAnulty said when he explained why he supports the bill: "There's just no one who needs to be converted or changed here." I recognise that for some people this bill doesn't actually go as far as they would like in some aspects, particularly in the area of the ease of prosecution and in penalties. I can understand that perspective, and that in any law there needs to be access to justice and appropriate penalties for those who break it, but I believe that the select committee has got the balance right here. The presence of a civil regime using the Human Rights Commission alongside the criminal provisions is in the spirit of the dual purposes of this bill.