This whakataukī speaks to our support for the Local Government (Rating of Whenua Māori) Amendment Bill that we are discussing this evening, because this bill will eliminate the problem of rate arrears accumulating on land that the owners derive no economic benefit from. This will enable owners of Māori land to discuss development opportunities with their council without the fear that they will first be asked to pay their rates arrears. It is a barrier to the progression of where we're at as a country. Quite often, I speak about our nationhood, about being on the right side of the law at this point of our pathway as a country, and what we saw in the Māori wards debate is opposition to the progression of who we are as Aotearoa New Zealand. And now is the time for us to progress Māori interests, to enable Māori land and the Māori economy, and to support those to progress the things that we want to, not to create barriers.