Just finally, as other contributors to this debate have also raised, the social media question is still outstanding. There has been a lot of discussion about the fact that we now get more and more of our news from social media; this, of course, is largely determined by algorithms and therefore means that sometimes we might not see things that are fundamentally important to, for example, engaging in our democracy, but we are more likely to be fed things that the algorithms think that we want. So what that takes us down to is: how does this Aotearoa New Zealand public media entity engage with and participate with social media? So you have this kind of tension between that public and that private space, but then also with social media. I'd say that this very much aligns with the work that's being done by a number of Ministers at present on the potential for greater regulation of social media, which of course is not just a domestic issue but one internationally.