ANDREW BAYLY (National—Port Waikato): Thank you. Well, I think we got to the same result, so let's move on. So, in terms of the designation, maybe for the listeners that are tuning into this exciting exchange, could the Minister tell us how long a designation lasts for? Then, in clause 15(3), it talks about "If a network ceases to be a designated network,". So I'm now putting the contrary view back to him: at what point, and I'm sure that the commissioner has got some jurisdiction around there—but what would it mean that a network no longer becomes a designation? So that was it. Because I was hoping the Minister might answer the question: what would mean that you wouldn't become it? And presumably it's not because you go out of business, because that's self-evident. But if you get to a market share of 2 percent, which I think may be Amex's at the moment, and hasn't been designated, would that be a type of criteria that would be adopted to remove the designation order? 