Hon TODD McCLAY (National—Rotorua): Well, to the Minister, can I ask him: does he not think, for the 92,000 people that Treasury have said will lose their jobs, that his hope is just, frankly, not good enough? What you've said, Minister, is between when the $400 million was agreed by Cabinet to today, lots of things have changed. Well, of course lots of things have changed. My question to you though, Minister, was not "Is it difficult to estimate today because your hopes for the tourism sector haven't worked out?" My question was: when you got the $400 million to spend in the tourism sector, what advice did you ask for and seek as to how many of the 92,000 jobs would be saved? If the answer is, Minister, you didn't ask, then say so, and the tourism sector will understand what that means.