But since we've gone back to the democratic process, there's been a slowing of all sorts of things. There's been a throwing into the mix of an extraordinary range of different things that are affecting and slowing opportunities in communities. And given that's it's a council that's supposed to look at our local resources and protect them, then I see very little evidence that that is to the fore in their thinking. I've only had two meetings with ECan in the last two years, and both of those meetings showed that the councillors are not in charge of the process. It is in fact the bureaucrats of the council who completely run it, and so we would ask the question: how is this bill going to create progress on the many issues, the environmental issues, that face people in Canterbury? What we've got at the moment is a massive bureaucratic sort of approach to almost every aspect of their work and very little progress for the people who pay their rates.