HELEN WHITE (Labour): I rise unable to support this bill, and I did look at the bill with an open mind. As a lawyer, I work in employment law and I don't work in criminal law, but I did what I would consider due diligence. I thought about the purpose of Matt King's bill, and, again, I congratulate Erica Stanford on winning the ballot. It's a pity it was for this bill, because I'm pretty sure that she has things that are important to her that would have been good things to come out of this ballot. Unfortunately, when I looked at the bill and I looked at its intent, its intent is to deal, it looks like, with carjacking. Its grievance, its mischief, is that a person who converts a car aggressively—violently—is not actually treated the same as a person who steals a car with an intent to deprive the owner of it permanently and does so violently. That does seem to be the common-sense thrust of what Matt King was trying to achieve. 