I believe there's an alternative. I do. I believe that we can change in a way that is going to lead to a multitude of benefits and we can have much more constructive and productive dialogue in this place. The reality is that this preference towards the status quo, and the people who profit from it, is damaging nature, it's stealing the future of young people with climate change, and it is leading to an increasingly divided population. Here in Aotearoa and overseas, we can see this happening because people have been marginalised and excluded, they don't have enough to make ends meet, they can't respond to the problems that we are facing. [Interruption] 