GREG O'CONNOR (Labour—Ōhāriu): It's been an interesting debate this afternoon, or two debates, actually. One of them was an urgent debate around Air New Zealand, and now, of course, we're discussing the Budget Policy Statement. The two aren't very much related. There's just the mere fact that Air New Zealand is still flying, despite the doom and gloom on the other side of the House. Even as a comparative with Qantas, Air New Zealand continued to fly internationally, but Qantas was grounded and, for all intents and purposes, remains so, and that's something of a metaphor for New Zealand. Air New Zealand became a metaphor for this country—it actually continued to fly. 