But in terms of the model we have today, I salute everyone who's played a real part in terms of this model in regards to where we are now, because I think back to my whanaunga Pine Taiapa, who played such a major role in Te Arawa in terms of helping and supporting carvers. I remember what made him tick, and it was all about the preservation of our culture, of tikanga, of rangatiratanga. I salute the aspirations of Pine Taiapa and of the kuia Emily Schuster in all the work that she has done in terms of all the weavers and the work that she had done in terms of upholding the culture. I think of Kuru Waaka and all that great kōrero that we all used to hear down there, and his aspirations for young people and for the culture and for the tikanga.