If Mr David Bennett wants to regain the Hamilton East electorate—as I'm sure he will in two years' time—he's going to need a damn sight more votes than the number of people who are travelling on the Te Huia train, because there's only 30 a day on average. Thirty a day. And if this is the example of the sort of value-for-money proposition that Minister of Transport is trying to convince the committee he go through, then I worry that the state of the Government's finances is even worse than I—as the finance spokesperson—thought.