So if we think about it, that is actually that case where New Zealand plant stock was stolen and taken to China and then used to compete against us, and this Minister thinks Zespri doesn't know what it's talking about. I think it does know what it's talking about, and I think it is something where the Minister writing to me and saying, "Well, we need to get it through because everything else is too late on our response as a Government to UPOV-91." Well, too late—whose fault is that? Is it Zespri's fault? Is it T&G's fault? Is it the New Zealand producers' fault? No, it's his fault, and they're having to pay for it. 