Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: I'd love to see the member's evidence that that's not exactly what we are doing. We make decisions every day to look after people's lives and their livelihoods. What the member needs to remember, of course, is that we cannot get ahead of ourselves. We need to lock in all of the results we've had to date, we do have cycles of transmission with this virus we have to take into account, and we are listening to the evidence, the research, and the best available advice to make our decisions, which is in the best interests of our economy as well.