I think we would do well to understand some of the principles for the criminal justice system that we have in New Zealand; for better or worse it is a very complicated beast. There's plenty of opportunity, and, indeed, we should all feel encouraged to take enlightened approaches to criminal justice. I'm pleased that the last National Government did a lot of great work in the space of, for example, establishing alcohol and other drug treatment courts, rangatahi courts, and so on. But that's not to say that there isn't a role for the criminal justice system also in recognising very, very serious harm to very vulnerable members of our community. The vulnerability of those who perpetrate such crime does not take away from the vulnerability of those who are its direct victims. 