So I just want to talk about one of our local plumbers—Shane Gardiner, and his wife Julie—and Joshua Hopkins, who's the young apprentice. When you talk to Joshua, the mana that he exudes—his pride in his work is really, really obvious. He is excited about his future and so is his boss. And the interesting thing is, his boss didn't just get support to pay his wages—which reduced, you know, the risk and the investment that was required—but they noticed, they recognised that they both needed him to be safe and productive. So he got to, when he first started out, do a digger course—Wheels, Tracks and Rollers; I want to go there—and also working at heights. And what that meant is that both Josh and Shane were really quickly able to recognise and utilise his productivity, and his mana was enhanced because of that. 