JOSEPH MOONEY (National—Southland): Thank you, Madam Chair. I thank the Minister for that kōrero. I, unfortunately, think I ended up knowing less than I did at the beginning of it! There were a few statements in there that seemed to contradict one another, and I'd just ask if the Minister would clarify those for the benefit of those watching and members in the House. On one hand, he said that the He Puapua report is over and gone. On the other hand, he said it's a catalyst for a kōrero with Māori. He's also said in other statements outside of the House that he's consulting with iwi and, in July, in fact, was going out for consultation on indigenous rights. I wonder if he would clarify as well whether he's communicated to Dr Claire Charters that the He Puapua report is over and gone, because he's also appointed her to the working group.