The other thing that they should do is work with the Government or with others in the sector to start innovating around how they find skilled work or how they start training New Zealanders to do that work. I know it is difficult for sectors who have traditionally relied on migrant workers to fill a number of positions in a time when the border is closed, but the border is closed for a good reason, and that is to keep our country at the position where it is now, where our economy can function as close as possible to as normally as it can, and our community can function as close to normal as it can. And I would stress to the members to my left that that is a very privileged position in the world that we hold, and we have to start thinking outside the square to ensure that our economy can take benefit of the situation that we're in. 