But what's even more disappointing is the role of New Zealand First, who I'm told are going to oppose this piece of legislation. I can see Clayton Mitchell nodding, because it was interesting that he attended a meeting in April 2015 with none other than the Deputy Prime Minister—who wasn't, of course, Deputy Prime Minister at that stage—one Winston Peters. At that public meeting, Winston Peters said, "I don't know how they"—and what he meant was the National-led Government who were in Government at the time—"could have made this decision." And Winston Peters went on to say, "If I saw a hall this size and I was in Government, I would listen to what they have to say." "I would listen to what they have to say." said Mr Peters. Well, it seems now that—like so many things—when he's in Government, he conveniently forgets the promises and assurances that New Zealand First made while they were in Opposition, because New Zealand First find talk to be cheap and action to be slow and non-existent, just like the Minister of Conservation. 