One of the things that the future direction—and we have a plan, a three to five-year plan for the future direction of Oranga Tamariki. What that plan is not and what the future direction is not, because I've heard calls from certain sectors of the community and of society, is it is not about new bureaucracies and new structures. It's not about jobs or pay or people trying to secure authority. It's not about organisations jockeying for positions. The future of Oranga Tamariki and the future direction to ensure the wellbeing of our children is in the hands of our communities and Māori. 