TANGI UTIKERE: But what it does, I think, signal is that there are many courtrooms and court facilities all around the country that are very different. The infrastructure is different. The six courtrooms that exist in my Palmerston North courthouse are all quite different in themselves, but, distinctly, they are different from other courtrooms and courthouses around the country, and so what this bill will do is it will provide an opportunity for presiding judicial officers, within the context of some guidance from the heads of bench, to issue determinations that they consider appropriate within the context of specific proceedings. So the flexibility is important, because on the one hand we want to ensure that these proceedings can continue to take place where people have considerations such as health and safety at play but also it doesn't undermine an individual's right to a free and fair opportunity when it comes to justice and natural justice.