If there are people who are ideologically opposed to us having that, playing that role, that is for them to decide. But on this side of the House, we are committed to ensuring New Zealanders and New Zealand exporters have access to that kind of airline. And we have not seen, I don't believe, in this period of COVID, any diminution of the duty of Air New Zealand directors as both corporate directors and on the role they play in making sure that that national airline operates.