When we think of varroa mite that was killing our beehives and our bees, it took a very significant amount of courage for the Government at the time to actually agree to allow that insecticide to be used in our beehives with all of those risks that it would reduce the number of beehives and the status and quality of our honey that's produced in New Zealand because we had to use a dangerous chemical pesticide. Well, as far as I'm aware, apart from a very small number of teething troubles, there has been no effect on human health recorded from allowing the pesticide used to control the varroa bee mite, but we still have beehives; we still have pollinators; and our farmers, our pastoral, and our horticultural producers can still rely on bees because the alternative, based on the fearmongering campaign that was run at the time about that particular pesticide, would have been no pollinators. So it's important to recognise that while there are many well-meaning people who have genuine concerns about hazardous substances, it's not necessary to take account of everybody's concerns when we're actually talking about some very limited risks that are well understood and that decisions can be made relatively quickly to allow new products and new substances to enter the market. 