Because when I was recently at the primary industries summit up in Auckland, we had our trade negotiator, Vangelis Vitalis, actually came and presented to that conference. It was really interesting to listen to his perspective on things, because he's been doing this for a very long time. It wasn't long after the EU trade deal was announced and he got up and he said, "I'm probably the man in this room that's probably going to be liked the least." But actually, when he finished his presentation and gave a detailed explanation to the farmers of what he'd been through, there was a far bigger understanding of all of the components of these trade deals than what most of them had actually seen before.