But I can remember Mike was both happy and unhappy at that stage, during the lamburger tour, because the Minister in charge of the Legislative Department had ruled that notwithstanding a campervan, which he was using for his tour, being cheaper than a rental car and the hotel bills, Sir Robert would not approve the payment for the campervan. Mike, like a number of his successors, had some contacts in the end who, while they weren't normally Labour Party supporters, understood the importance of the message and supported that trip. 