We also chose to invite to the meeting the legend—I'll call her a legend because that's what she is—and wahine toa, the great Annette Sykes, who, for my reasons, I thought it was incredibly important that we had somebody who'd been working inside the system for so long, fighting for the rights of Māori, but, equally, somebody that's been standing outside on the steps of Parliament for just as long, again, fighting for the rights of Māori. Between them, they shared the kōrero. In fact, one of the lines that was used about "if these walls could talk"—and it was used by Annette Sykes. When she said that, I thought about it; I thought about "If these walls could talk, what would they say? Whose stories would they hark back to?" There would be a lot of stories, because both committee rooms have heard the pain, the anguish, the upset, the happiness, and the comedy that often takes place in that committee room as well, but, actually, they would have some pretty poignant things to say. 