My second question to the Minister is a very simple one. He just has to say "Yes" or "No". Did he ask the Prime Minister to tone down the policy in this area? At any point, did he go to the Prime Minister and say, "No, we can't do the full ban. There's a practical solution here that we could look at." Did he have that conversation? Just a simple yes or no. If he didn't have that conversation, fine, everybody knows that he didn't. But if he did have that conversation, the public and the farmers of New Zealand deserve to know that.