This hasn't been an easy issue, so I don't want to sugar-coat anything, because the debate that has occurred over the last six years has told us that there are some really strong views in some parts of our community, who do not want to see Māori wards and constituencies in their area. But I hazard a guess that it's a small part of those communities, because there is much more openness to ensuring greater inclusion and participation in local democracy than ever before. I wouldn't be swayed by many of the fearful comments that are coming from the other side of the House.