This is about mana ōrite. Mana ōrite is being able to share the decision making. Māori were not part of this decision making or part of this bill. We need to ensure that the people who are participating in these particular legislative changes or bills are the people that hold the keys to their marae. I challenge any of the Māori in the Labour Government at this time: how many have held the keys to their marae? How many are there at the beginning of a hui and at the end locking it up? Because that would determine whether they would agree with this particular bill or not. That would absolutely determine that.