We also recognise that even though there is a Resource Management Act, as flawed as it may be, there is still a pathway which requires pastoral farmers in the high country who want to carry out activities that require consents under regional plans or district plans to go and obtain those consents and demonstrate to the environmental specialists at their local council exactly how they're going to mitigate the effects of pastoral farming activities that might cause erosion, for example, or they might be putting in a road and cause a bit of dust during construction phase. There is already a well-understood way that we address those effects: we write a management plan and then demonstrate to our communities and to local regulators that we can meet those environmental tests. That is why it is completely unnecessary to have the same set of tests vested in the Commissioner of Crown Lands and Land Information New Zealand (LINZ), who are not people who are environmental specialists; they are simply administrators. They run spreadsheets and they manage property for the Crown.