But it is also not just a matter of paid leave; this also goes to the essence of job security, and that was a point that the New Zealand Council of Trade Unions really pointed out, as well. And, as is obvious from the submissions, people will also be made more comfortable to talk about pregnancy loss. I talked about the discrimination and the stigma earlier, the taboo of the issue. The New Zealand Public Service Association (PSA) women's network provided our committee with the following submission: "the fact that we do not accept miscarriage as a common place example of a bereavement, means people like me, who have suffered them, feel almost odd comparing them to the bereavement of another type of close family member (which are recognised in employment law)." So, again, people are feeling uncomfortable to even have to bring this up as a valid bereavement, due to the uncertainty in the law.