Can I just say one thing: the National Party today—and its image is very clear—is a party with a small "n". It's not a centre party any more. It is still in the throes of "Ruthanomics", even though that was a disaster that took the National Party, in the space of three years, from the biggest majority ever to a hung Parliament—in three years flat. They still hanker for that. They've still got control of the National Party, and, as for the rest of the backbenchers, they've got no influence whatsoever. 