Hon LOUISE UPSTON (National—Taupō): Thank you, Madam Chair. I want to come back to the point the Minister referred to around focusing on people who have been on benefit short term, and just to question the decision to ignore those who had been on the benefit long term, particularly those on the jobseeker benefit long term, because we've seen the number of those under the age of 25 double. That number has doubled under this Government, and I want to ask the Minister about the very deliberate decision to leave behind a group of young New Zealanders who could have had the opportunity to come off welfare into work, and the very deliberate decision the Minister made during COVID to focus on people who weren't on benefit at all, to get them back into a job, and to deprioritise—i.e., not support—those who had been on benefit, particularly the jobseeker benefit, for 12 months or more, at the very time there are employers everywhere who have jobs for those people.