It's a real pleasure to speak to the Ngāti Hinerangi Claims Settlement Bill in the second reading. I'm a member of the Māori Affairs Committee and I join with colleagues from across the House, especially those who travelled to Matamata to hear submitters on this bill. Can I just say to the House and to members of Ngāti Hinerangi that are listening in to this debate that the process can be challenging both for submitters, for the claimant, for the members of the committee itself. We find ourselves often hearing disputes and we have to make sure that we give everyone a fair hearing, and sometimes we have to ask the hard questions. It does not mean that we dispute what is being said. It just means that we want to find out all of the information that we can. We then take that information away with us. We consider it. We ask officials that have worked on the settlement for further information, as we did in this case.