I'll give the ACT Party credit: at least they've come up with an alternative. They're up front with the New Zealand people; they have said that they will scrap the winter energy payment. When Chris Luxon was asked about that, what did he say? "I'm not going to say." The ACT Party have said they're going to scrap the first-home grant, which we have increased in this Budget. When asked about whether the National Party will support that, they say "We're not going to say." How can you take a party seriously when all they're doing is whinging about a Budget that is delivering for New Zealanders—