GARETH HUGHES (Green): Kia ora, Madam Speaker. Ngā mihi nui ki a koutou katoa. I rise to oppose this legislation. I think the last member actually gave a good explanation of the different world views and visions, and also a clear argument why we need public broadcasting. That member listed off a litany of overseas-based YouTubers with the inference, I think, that, look, we don't maybe even need public broadcasting in New Zealand, because there are all these YouTubers out there like Joe Rogan. Now, Joe Rogan's a good YouTuber, but I think that—