Hon TIM MACINDOE: Right. OK. Well, I'm pleased to hear that assurance, because New Zealanders do respect the rule of law, as David Seymour was suggesting earlier, and they are concerned when some people take the law into their own hands. And one of the things that is a concern arising under this bill is the possibility that vigilantism and undesirable intimidatory tactics by, say, gangs, as we have seen in some pockets of New Zealand in recent weeks, will effectively be condoned because of the wording of this legislation. Now, for an elderly couple who are legitimately going about their business—say, going to the shops or off for a short trip to the beach or whatever—to be stopped by pretty intimidating young, strong people who are, effectively, telling them to go back is a very frightening experience, and that must not be allowed to happen.