I just want to read a quote that, funnily enough, came up in Question No. 10 today, a quote from the Prime Minister, where she said, "It will not be the policy of any Government I lead"—she said very gravely at the local government conference—"It won't be the policy of any Government I lead to embark on another substantial reform of local government or governance unless it is sought and unless there is a broad consensus amongst local government about the need for and the direction of change." Well, that approach certainly is not being applied by this Government when it comes to electoral reform. They have made no attempt to bring any consensus to the table, and they certainly haven't consulted the public on any of these things. It seems the only justification that the Minister came up with is the results of some survey done by a university, and I'm not disparaging that, but it is hardly rock solid. 