I also just want to echo a comment that was made previously as we consider the stats. We know that the statistics are unacceptable in Aotearoa. We know that our suicide numbers are very high, but I want us also to keep in mind and hold at the heart of our debate here today that we're not just talking about numbers; that we're talking about people who were valued, who were cherished, and who were loved by their whānau and their communities.