Tourism may well benefit from this safe travel bubble with Australia, but we do need to ensure that we are protecting our natural environment and getting the very best out of this relationship that we have, because it is entirely possible it could be zero-sum. We might get additional Australians coming over and visiting New Zealand but at higher costs to our infrastructure, higher costs to our environment, and with more New Zealanders going to Australia. So, I mean, in that case, it could be absolutely zero-sum, except with additional carbon emissions.