TANGI UTIKERE: Well, a teacher none the less—practical in nature, I guess, Mr Nash, and I know that Mr Tuiono always enjoys a commentary of history from me from time to time, as well. But it takes me back to where the option of choice was one of New Zealand's search for security, 1945 through to 1985. A key part of that unit of work is really around the longstanding nature of New Zealand's ties with the United Nations. 