I presume the Minister agrees, and no doubt that she's trying her best, not only to get most of the sector off-side, but her best to actually do the right thing. I presume she's trying to. I did presume, until such time as she actually doesn't seem to take seriously reasonable questions about accountability mechanisms within the bill. This is the whole thing. The whole thing is about accountability. The whole thing is about transparency. Yes, independence is an important value, but so too is the need for those who are involved in the system, those who are not involved in the system, but would critique and monitor it, and, most importantly, those who are so deeply affected by the system as to have their rights and freedoms curtailed by the system. It's important on all their behalf that we take these questions seriously, we ask these questions, we answer these questions, and we don't belittle these questions. 