Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: I can confirm that. And I can confirm that Tai Poutini were not the only ones; in fact, Unitec would have had to completely shut its doors had the Government not stepped in and provided them with the cash flow they needed to keep operating on a day-to-day basis. WelTec and Whitireia were in a great degree of financial difficulty, and if we'd not intervened there, the capital city would have lost its polytech provision as well. Those are just some examples, and, in fact, the situation was continuing to get worse for the majority of our polytechs.