Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: I am convinced of the strategy that the Government undertook to go hard and go early. I know the member is making a reference to the fact that there were different rules in Australia when it comes to the construction industry. Obviously, we will only be able to see the outcome of that when all of the statistics are in for both Australia and New Zealand. What I think, when I think about what's happened in terms of the virus—its impact on people from a health and an economic sense—is that we can say that both New Zealand and Australia have done well.