My final word on DHBs is to reflect not only the DHBs that will go, but the mega-DHBs that will be created, and ask how nimble and flexible can a mega-DHB be? How many jobs will be lost? How much money will be spent on new layers of bureaucracy? Well, we can actually model the answer with a similar experiment in the tertiary sector from this Government that has removed industry training organisations, moved apprentices back to polytechnics, and formed one mega-polytechnic. Can we expect the same with mega-DHBs? Will there be at least 11 new chief executives, $267 million in new cost in a single management layer, and official advice ignored when it states reform is unlikely to achieve the desired goals with extreme impact. Can we expect the new health Minister to bring the same experience from the Ngāpuhi Treaty settlement where he came in as the new broom, spent a lot of money, broke relationships, swept away years of work on Maranga Mai, and then left Ngāpuhi worse off and without a mandate? Is that what we can expect in health? Here, again, is the forewarning: save our DHBs.