CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jacqui Dean): OK, thank you for that. Just to add to that, the comment I've previously made—and I'll keep this short, because this is using the House's time, but so did the point of order—is that this session is now designed to be a Q and A. That seems to be the most effective way of holding the Minister to account. Five-minute speeches do not directly hold the Minister to account. So I'll leave that up to the members, and that's all I can do. 