The family of the Chatham Islands seemed pleased when they welcomed/decided upon their, they took care of their taonga (treasures). We saw that again at the time when we, the Māori Affairs Committee, went to visit Nunuku's Cave. We felt the life force, we heard the history, and we sensed the wellbeing of peace in everything. We also felt—and I support the comments to Joseph Mooney, because we were there together in the karaka grove. We saw on the trees the symbols of the old people, the symbols of the ancestors, the traditional messages/narratives which they left behind. We felt the spirit and the life force. There is life force as well living in this bill. This bill, which will soon be enacted, is not the be all and end all of the journey for our family, the Moriori people. No. There will be a time, another time for them to pursue all of their dreams.