I know that a lot of the current Government have not experienced this time but it wasn't all roses. Does the Government seriously believe that the fair pay agreements would've helped New Zealand get through this one-in-100-year pandemic? We're in an environment now where employers and employees work things out to cater for their own situation. Sealord has a parentship from 9 till 2 so their workers can work while their kids are at school. COVID showed us and continues to show us that we need a flexible workforce, one that can pivot—that's a popular word. Or is it so popular now? Because these fair pay agreements will make things much more difficult. How do you think organising workers to work from home would have gone with the bureaucratic nightmare of fair pay agreements?