I think the same thing applies, interestingly, to our forestry. So we talk about the billion trees and the need to plant trees. At the same time, we're putting legislation into the House under urgency, which impacts on the profitability and the incentive to plant trees, frankly, for a lot of tree growers, because they'll be concerned about the sort of impact that could have on them. So there are a whole lot of things that I think we need to consider very carefully. 