But then their second criteria is that they will whack on $5 billion to $12 billion of costs on that very sector and then they're still going to have a $4 billion increase from that. How does that work? The Minister couldn't answer it. The Minister's got no calculation. He just thinks it's going to happen. It's like what we've seen out of that party for the last three years: all these glorious promises, these glorious ambitions of what can happen, and no delivery. And the primary sector is the next one to face that.