Hon GERRY BROWNLEE (National—Ilam): That is not my point. My point is that we are sitting here, by agreement, in a House structured in a way that does not meet the requirements of the Standing Orders—we've set those aside. We've set aside the proxies. We have an arrangement where, to give some validity to the question time, we're told what Ministers are going to be here. I'm simply pointing out that we're extremely disappointed that the Government has not been able to get the two associates here, one of whom might have answered for Mr Twyford, who we always knew was not going to be here.