Hon Todd McClay: What is his response to Queenstown mayor, Jim Boult, in respect of a trans-Tasman bubble, who said yesterday, and I quote, "Right now businesses are looking down a black hole. There's no light at the end of it. If they know a date in which they are likely to get going again, they can talk to their bank, they can talk to their lawyers, and find a way to scrape through"?