He's also correct that Fonterra and other processors don't receive an industrial allocation under that system for milk drying. I wasn't around at the time when someone dreamt up the industrial allocation system, and we are taking a look at that whole industrial allocation system because of the various inconsistencies that have arisen over the course of the last 10, 12 years. But at the time that the decisions were made about who qualified for an industrial allocation and who didn't, the process of milk drying didn't meet the threshold of emissions intensive and trade exposed. So there was a whole process by which they looked at every form of industrial use and so on. Whey and lactose do—so there is an industrial allocation for that. Tomato growing does. So those are contained in terms of industrial allocation, but he's correct that milk drying is not. And that's probably a good thing, because milk drying is one of those things where it is low-grade heat, so it is actually quite an easily substitutable at a reasonably economic price technology. So if you subsidised it and you said that they didn't have to face those allocations, then there would be absolutely no incentive for them to shift out of coal or gas or fossil fuels into alternatives.