He used to talk about Sweden—"We need to follow Sweden." Well, what I can tell you is that in Stockholm, there are about 990,000 people. There are about 1.5 million people in Auckland. There have been about 4,500 deaths from COVID in Stockholm. Imagine the conversations we would be having in this House, let alone around the dinner tables and barbecues, if there'd been 4,500 deaths in Auckland. They would be completely different to the conversations we have been having. We would not have had the summer we've just had. If you have a look at the economic intelligence unit's report, we were number two in the world in terms of democratic institutions. I absolutely believe, as mentioned, that I think history will prove us right that our response has been at the very top.