But in some ways I don't blame the Labour Party for it, because the real problem that we face as a country comes back to the fact that there just ain't enough money to meet the First World aspirations that we have, which can be as simple as that when I retire there's actually going to be someone there to care for me, and when my parents retire, they'll be somebody to look after them at First World standards. That's the real problem that we're facing tonight, and I think it's worth taking the time to spell it out, because if our country doesn't start to think hard about the factors of productivity and why our productivity growth is low, then we're going to be having more dismal debates late at night like this for a very long time to come, whichever of Labour and National say they're leading the Government.