We know from projections that we were looking down the barrel of maybe 3,000 deaths in New Zealand if we didn't go hard and we didn't go fast—as we did—and countries around the world are only congratulating New Zealand on the approach we have taken. We've now had 12 days in a row without any new cases of COVID-19, and we need to be patting ourselves on the back and saying thank you to the team of 5 million people who have contributed to that. But what we're hearing from the member who's just spoken is that he would have preferred that we relaxed our approach and, potentially, risked us going back up the alert levels, which, of course, is the worst thing that could possibly happen to New Zealand and the economy. 