Hon NANAIA MAHUTA: Yes, I stand by my statements that the public did not know the trade-offs that councils were continuing to make between what was being spent above the ground and below the ground. And in addition to that, I consulted with local government to ensure the approach to reform of the Three Waters infrastructure and service delivery arrangements were one that kept the affordability issues for ratepayers in front of our opportunity to reform, as well as Treaty settlement obligations—which was a matter raised by the sector—as well as separating balance sheets to enable a financially sustainable model for the ongoing investment in waters infrastructure. 