If we're to talk about the kinds of approaches that we've taken over the past decade in particular, but the past few decades, and the trajectory of travel around reducing harm for tobacco and getting us to this point of reduced consumption, particularly for younger people, we do need to talk about interventions like plain packaging, we do need to talk about interventions like ending advertising, and we do need to talk about interventions like ending consumption in shared and public spaces. These, of course, again, I might add, are the same evidence-based harm-reduction approaches that we had in the cannabis legalisation and control bill, which I hope the National Party is now reflecting on their stance upon, given how they have championed an evidence-based approach to substances and to drugs this afternoon.