CHRIS PENK (National—Kaipara ki Mahurangi): Thank you very much, Mr Chair, and I'm grateful, too, to Minister Robertson for engaging on both those questions that I posed. I wonder, by way of follow-up on the first of the two points, in order that he addressed them, if it's not the case that we should be thinking in a consistent way about the obligations and the independence of the Auditor-General, such that we say that that office should not be subject to obligations that are imposed in any more stringent fashion than the House or the Government may wish, but nor should it be subject to largesse or generosity that appears to be sought for no particularly good reason, so far as I can tell. But at least the Minister has engaged with that, and, as I say, I do thank him for it. 