So having said to these workers, "We don't want you to get pay equity,"—while legislating against it—"We'll legislate your pay rates for five years, and also, we're going to make sure that the pay equity machinery means that nobody ever gets pay equity again". Well, we had to clean all that up. But here's the real test. If this was an Opposition party, a National Party really concerned about the low-paid workers, why have they opposed every increase in the minimum pay that we put in place? Why, if you're so pro-worker, would you oppose increases in the minimum wage? Every year we've put it up—well, they did. They did. They are not the heroes of the working class. They are not the heroes. 