Hon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (National): Well, what we heard there from Dr Deborah Russell was the kind way of saying "We won. You lost. Eat that.", because that's exactly what we heard. People voted for a tax increase; we got the super strong mandate—sit down, be quiet. She said something else, actually, that was quite revealing, and I doubt that she'll be getting a muffin bought by David Parker for her at the next morning tea. Because what David Parker has been saying in his first intervention in this debate was that the reason we're here in urgency is because it's so hard and it takes so long to adjust the computer systems of payroll providers and the IRD, but Dr Russell just said, "Hang on. That's pretty straightforward. It's maths. They know maths; it's all computers. You just update the schedules, upload them into the payroll system, and that's it." 