Hon GRANT ROBERTSON (Minister of Finance): It's a little bit hard with a remote sitting to quite tell if the member had finished. In terms of her comments around the wage subsidy scheme, what I would say is that when we established the scheme, obviously it was established quickly in order to achieve the goals of cash flow and confidence for businesses. We tied the wage subsidy scheme to a criteria of employment attachment so that you could only get it if you were continuing to keep your staff. I strongly believe that that approach made sure that New Zealand's unemployment rate stayed lower than it might otherwise have been. We did not put other criteria on the wage subsidy scheme. So the idea that somehow or other we could ask those companies to give it back with some kind of justification being that things didn't quite turn out to be quite as bad as we thought, I think would be tremendously bad faith. 