Now, let's talk a little bit about the trains. This is a 1970s union fantasy that men—and it will be men; I can guarantee it—will be working away with hot steel and sledgehammers, banging together locomotives and wagons in a big warehouse in Dunedin. This is this Government's idea of innovation! And it might be OK if people were actually going to use the trains, but has anyone heard of that initiative where thousands of people go up and down and commute between Hamilton and Auckland every year, every day? Actually, every year is about how often. Thousands of people a day are on the train between Hamilton and Auckland commuting to the future! Has anyone heard about those thousands of people? No, I haven't either. Even John Campbell's not taking that train any more.