Well, what's fascinating about this is that Mr Jones says this has been out in the field for a number of years, that he's had close conversations with the forestry sector. Well, they haven't seen it. In fact, they're only going to get briefed on it tomorrow. And here he stands, saying that this is an urgent debate, an urgent priority, for something that hasn't been seen by the sector—hasn't sat down with the forest owners, hasn't sat down with the contractors or the small-forest owners. He actually hasn't sat with them and said, "This is what I would like to do in your sector." And not only that; he has the audacity to come and say that all this now can be discussed, debated at a select committee, and reported back in three weeks. Well, that is arrogance in the extreme, and we are seeing yet again the fusion between a man with the particular view on a model—he wants to see an economic model that he controls rather than the free market, he has a view that it's his way or the highway, and he creates this impression that somehow this has been worked through with the sector when it hasn't.