DAVID SEYMOUR (Leader—ACT): Why is the Ministry of Education proposing to ban primary and intermediate State schools from charging intermediate fees? How much has been spent on this project to date? And does the Minister of Education realise that the only net effect is that kids will go to private schools like King's School instead of State schools like Remuera Intermediate School next door that are using their international fees to pay for things such as te reo Māori classes? How is that possibly a good use of the Ministry of Education's time to investigate such a crazy proposal?