I do recall though that for some reason, and I'm not quite sure why, the Hon Dr Wayne Mapp and I were at a luncheon held in Christchurch—probably not unusual that I was at a luncheon, I suppose—by a well-known American businessman in the city. He was entertaining a group of senators who'd come out in late 1998, or it might have been early 1999, on their way through to Australia and on to Thailand, who were, essentially, trying to get a bit of a steer on the World Trade Organization job and who might be there, given that the two, Supachai and Mike, were the preferred candidates. 