Hon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister of Justice): I thank the member, Chris Penk, again for his question. I think the member can be assured that the level of penalties for offences in this bill are comparable to offences in, for example, the Human Rights Act and those that would also be considered by the Human Rights Review Tribunal. So we know that at that sort of civil level of penalty, that $10,000 mark for an individual is pretty much the top end. It is a pretty severe penalty for an individual who offends against the provision. But it's not at the $100,000 or $500,000 mark. You wouldn't expect that for this sort of thing. 