During COVID, ethnic communities actually suffered—and Naisi Chen knows that. The Chinese community actually had a tremendous difficulty, so did all of us who look like us. You know, Asians actually were blamed for COVID, and the thing is that some of the issues that they raised should be taken up. The fact that some of them don't have the language capabilities, some of them do, in fact, need to upskill for jobs in New Zealand. They are probably one of the biggest communities that are underemployed; they're not able to work to the capacity that they are able to, and this is where they are lacking.