So the first question is, Minister, do you consider that Land Information New Zealand (LINZ) officials and the Commissioner of Crown Lands are better equipped to make decisions about how to manage ecosystems under Crown pastoral lease than the farmers who manage that land and depend on that land to actually produce a living for their families? That's question one. Do you believe that LINZ and the Commissioner of Crown Lands are better equipped to make decisions about environmental management than the people who actually live on the land?