I've got to say that I feel for those Government members of the committee wanting to make change and not being able to. I remember when we were in Government and I was on a committee and Ministers wouldn't listen, and then I remember when I became a Minister and I was not able to listen always, but the point was that the door was always open. What we always tried to do was make sure that our legislation achieved the lofty goals that the Prime Minister's press release would promise New Zealanders, and that's why I feel for these Government members of our committee. They are genuine people, good people, and hard-working, and today they are letting their constituents who are consumers down. 