Also in the Budget Policy Statement, of course, Government debt was an important topic of discussion, and in the statement it was forecast to peak at 40.1 percent of GDP, which, whilst high for New Zealand's historical standards, is still significantly lower than was forecast in Budget 2021. That puts us in one of the lowest net debt positions in the world, certainly in terms of our OECD neighbours, and gives us a resilient economy to start with. The Minister did talk about debt and, in particular, was asked in committee about what a prudent level of debt was. Importantly, he noted that GDP is not the only question to be addressed there but also what the social and economic needs of the community are. And, of course, avoiding long-term infrastructure deficits was one of the things he identified where having a low debt certainly wouldn't be prudent if what that meant was ongoing decay of infrastructure. So a specific number was something that was avoided.