I remember many, many striking conversations that were had. I particularly remember the police commissioner coming in. We'd just heard from the Prime Minister that people coming in from overseas were going into self-quarantine but that New Zealanders shouldn't be worried because the police would check up on them within three days. Then it was useful to have the police commissioner come in and tell us, "Actually, that's not the case. We're not doing that.", and it was a great shock for many people. But if the committee hadn't been in place, that stark reality wouldn't have been brought to mind and the Government wouldn't have been, frankly, embarrassed into doing something about it. That helped us with our response to the crisis and made a difference, and on many occasions, such as with Sir David Skegg and many other people making their comments about the quality of the testing and tracing regimes, it made a real difference. 