My colleagues Penny Simmonds, Joseph Mooney, and I had a Zoom call with aged-care providers in the southern region three or four weeks ago, and I must say—I mean, I've spent quite a bit of time in the health sector, and I've seen a lot of clinical staff get very emotional, under pressure, in tears. I have never seen managers and owners of facilities in that state, but they certainly were in that meeting. They don't know how they're going to survive. They are losing staff, they're losing registered nurses—they can't kidnap registered nurses right now. Healthcare assistants are holding the place together, and they're being insulted with this offer and told that they can't negotiate. Well, that is Muldoonism, that is socialism, that is "Shut up and be quiet.", and that is not what good employment law and employment relations is about. 