So I want to talk for a moment about conservation in New Zealand, because it was another example of spray the money around, make jobs for people, but where is the plan behind it? I've read the Budget documents. I've read the press releases. I certainly acknowledge that spending money on all of those things in the conservation portfolio that we all hold dear, addressing pest control, supporting Predator Free 2050, Jobs for Nature, jobs on private and conservation land: all good stuff. All good stuff. 