Now, the Minister talks about the loan facility, and both Mr Mitchell and I are still completely flummoxed. I don't want to steal Mr Mitchell's thunder, because he may well introduce this in his speech, but I have no idea why Air New Zealand had to take a loan facility from the Government of up to $900 million at rates of interest that by comparisons with the aviation lending market at the moment are completely eye-watering. It begs the question of whether or not Air New Zealand is being milked for interest, for Crown revenue, and that this was an opportunistic action by Air New Zealand. 