CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jacqui Dean): Before I take the next call, I just want to remind the committee again that this is the debate on clause 4, which is amendments to the Road User Charges Act 2012, and while I have already indicated to the committee that due to the circumstances we are finding ourselves in this evening of not having had a select committee process, I will allow fulsomeness and some latitude. None the less, we are considering clause 4, and so your comments and questions must relate to amendments to the Road User Charges Act 2012. I'm pretty sure that those members who are experienced can work their magic and stay within the Standing Orders.