Hon Dr DAVID CLARK: I don't have the exact number on that in front of me, but what I can say is that the member will know that historically, under-investment in our health system has meant that the number of ventilators is not as many as in some of the other health systems around the world. That, of course, is why we are putting such a strong focus on stamping out the sporadic cases we've seen in New Zealand to flatten and suppress the curve and reduce the pressure on our health service.