The realities of today totally surprise me, and when I spoke to others about the lack of rights that victims of insane offenders have, they were just as surprised, as well. The victims' grief is not different just because the perpetrator is insane, and I would like to take the time to thank all of those submitters that came and gave us their stories. And the submitters were not just victims. We also had submitters who were family members of insane offenders that recognised what was happening and wanted to be part of that victim-centred approach. 