CHRIS BISHOP: All I heard was "seeds". I accept the Minister didn't say that, but she seemed to take some sort of alarm at the idea of 34 people in MIQ with COVID. So there are 34 people in MIQ with COVID, and there's over 4,000 people isolating at home with COVID or close contacts, likely to get it, around the upper North Island, in Auckland and Waikato. So where's the relative risk here? Is it MIQ or is it actually out in the Auckland community?