Now, the Minister for Social Development got up and said the kinds of things that I'd want to hear. She described the kind of Ministry of Social Development that I would hope that we had, one that was innovative and nimble and relentlessly focused on getting New Zealanders working, because we know that unemployment, benefit receipt, and poverty all go together, and following those three, worst of all, is poverty for innocent children. So we'd want a Ministry of Social Development that was getting people off benefits, off welfare, and into work.