Further to that, in the Supplementary Order Paper 209, clause 16(4) "In developing their tools and monitoring approaches, the Monitor must consult—(a) the chief executive of Oranga Tamariki: (b) the chief executive of services approved under … Oranga Tamariki Act … (c) the Commissioner of Police". Where's mention of consultation, engagement directly, with the children and the young people? So my proposed amendment, is that there be the insertion of as clause 16(4)(d) "care-experienced children and young people and their whānau."