I was very surprised to read in the notes that for the past 20 years or so, this has been a largely unregulated sector of the forestry industry, and I think it speaks volumes for those who own and operate businesses in New Zealand that thus far these seem to have been self-moderating, to a degree. We do like the idea that within this bill, it will seek to address illegal forestry and illegal harvest practices by ensuring that wood harvested would have to be verified as legally harvested. And indeed, I think that's one of the first more important steps, to define what is "legally harvested", which is also a caveat in the bill. More importantly, I think, is to ensure that imported timber is not illegally sourced. Already a number of speakers have mentioned—I think the most obvious example to most people in the general public is the state of rainforests in the Amazon basin and the detrimental impact that has been had on (a) the forests, (b) the ecology, and (c), probably most importantly, the peoples that live in and live off those forests. 