DAVID SEYMOUR: "No, no. Communism," he says. "That's communism." Communism is socialism organised into little villages. Now, they don't believe in that, because every single Labour member, I can guarantee you, gets up in the morning and goes and buys a latte or a flat white, probably with oat milk—and it comes from a global supply chain that gets the coffee to the small-business owner—and they happily hand over five bucks that they get paid by the taxpayer to buy their coffee in the morning, and then they come in here and they say they're socialist. They don't know what they're talking about. They don't know what the words that they use actually mean. The ACT Party opposes this bill.