There has been, unfortunately even around this debate of safe spaces, quite a conflation out of the American situation, which is often quite heinous, actually, the behaviours of pro-lifers or anti-abortionists or whatever nomenclature you want to use. It can be very, very aggressive, but it's conflated and drawn over as if that's happening here in New Zealand. But by and large, and from my own understanding from reading the select committee report and others, more of it is just seen as offensive, problematic, that someone might be outside, in this case, an abortion clinic offering an alternative opinion. As I've noted before in a different topic and speech, a nun standing out with rosary beads is now deemed as harmful—emotional harm. I just think we're treading an unfortunate path as a society and as a democracy if we're beginning to limit actions like that simply because something is perceived to be harmful.