Now, the Minister can play games and say, "Oh, well, but the funding is completely separate to this bill." He could be a bit tricky and clever and say, "We're not talking about that. We're just talking about the bill and the technical amendment." Actually, those two things are inextricably linked. The centres that were there on the day were standing up, almost in tears, saying, "What are we supposed to do? You're putting us between a rock and a hard place." In fact, those were the Minister's words. The Minister said, "You are between a rock and a hard place."