So let's just explore this a bit further, because in listening to family members, listening to young people, listening to those who have been through the very sorts of things that the previous speaker expressed, I think it's really important that we consider that. Consider the sensitive years before the age of 18 when it's challenging for any young New Zealander anyway and add to that sexual orientation or gender identity—and I want people to consider young people doing that in complete isolation of their family. I think it would be a derogation of responsibility for us to in any way, shape, or form create a path where young people would do that on their own or parents would feel concerned about what they might say or what they might do, and where that might lead to a criminal prosecution. So we've asked the question. The Minister hasn't been able to clearly state that parents—