I wanted to hear from Karen Chhour, and although I enjoyed listening to Simon Court, I wanted to recognise in particular that she has been through her own story. She gave it in her maiden speech about being in a situation where her grandmother wanted her and she didn't get to keep her, and she was in a very stressful situation as a result. I know she would have taken a keen interest. What I got from her maiden speech was that she had lost a lot of faith in the State over that experience and that time. I am very proud of the Labour Party for, hopefully, restoring some of that by coming up with a bill which actually gives people support and recognises and respects those doing that role. It's a very, very important role and I don't underestimate the difficulty of it.