Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS: —and we've been very clear around what the time line of that project is, and, yes, it is around a decade. I think it is a shame that New Zealand had not taken the opportunity a decade ago to start looking at some longer-term solutions for how it is we would have a fit for purpose energy system in New Zealand. I do note that the last time we got into a situation in terms of a similar analogous position was in 2014.