So, clearly, the mixed-ownership model is not something that has helped New Zealand avoid this situation. It's something that makes it harder for the Government to respond and set a direction of public good, and, ultimately, that is what this debate is about. It's about the impacts on the public when there are difficulties in forecasting demand and bringing enough generation on board, and if making private profit is the focus of the "gen-tailers"—thanks to the National Party, and I'm sure the ACT Party would have liked to go further when it comes to the privatisation of our electricity system—then it is simply not possible that we're going to get the outcomes we want as a country if the "gen-tailers" can make more money from not bringing on new supply and ensuring that there's sustained high wholesale prices over a long period of time. Certainly, a lot of small retailers are making that case. 