What are debating today? Well, for example, we have an order that took New Zealand from the red traffic light to the orange. Now, at the same time, the traffic light system, which used to be a system of crowd size limits, vaccination requirements, masking requirements, and scanning or contact tracing requirements, has been blown to smithereens. Contact tracing: don't have to do it anymore. Vaccine mandates: don't have vaccine passes in public settings anymore. Crowd size limits: we don't have those anymore. So what is the difference between green, orange, and red traffic lights? Well, almost nothing except for a limit of a crowd to 200 and having to wear masks in some places such as shops, but not other places such as nightclubs. There is no longer any rhyme nor reason, because none of the factors that made up the traffic light system remain in place. We shouldn't be debating the traffic light system; we should just dump it. And it would actually be better because the Government says, "Well, maybe we should keep the traffic light system around so we can bring it back in case there's a flu or something." Well, it would be easier if they dropped it intact than gradually dismantled it until the colours were meaningless, because if they do bring it back, no one will know what it means because of the way they've dismantled it. So we should just dump the traffic light system. It's time to move on from that restriction. 