Hon CHRIS HIPKINS (Minister of Education): Very happy to respond to that contribution, which seems to have demonstrated nothing other than that in the brief period of time that the bill was at the Education and Workforce Committee—and I acknowledge it was a brief period of time—the member who just spoke, Hon Paul Goldsmith, made no effort to read it or understand it. It's only a couple of pages, and so I would encourage him to pick it up and have a look at it, because he made some extraordinary claims in that brief, rather boring contribution, including that centres were being asked to take on extra costs with no extra funding to meet those costs. The whole point of the bill is so that the Government can provide centres with the extra funding in order to meet the extra costs that the requirements will put in place. So I think he might have missed the whole point of what the legislation that we're debating is about. He also asks why we're not using the attestation mechanism to do this. This bill means we can use the attestation mechanism in order to achieve the thing that the member is speaking about. So I'm not sure he's clearly been listening.