The member Greg O'Connor has talked about fantasy. I have felt that there has been some degree of fantasy from members opposite who pretend that people are going to lose their vote because they make a small mistake and end up in prison. The reality and the law in New Zealand is that you do not go to prison unless you have committed both a serious offence—and it is actually not the first sort of punishment. Our criminal justice laws make plain that the judges should view prison as a last resort and not a first resort for prisoners.