Hon KIRITAPU ALLAN: I'm advised that the Department of Conservation, and primarily their ecologists, work closely with Dr Cockrem and leaned into the advice of many of the community groups there on Waiheke Island, including Protect Pūtiki, various bird rescue groups, and the like. My understanding from the information that the department has provided to me is, first, that many of the references to the information provided were with respect to the broader consents that have been granted by the Auckland Council, with respect to the broader marina development. With the specific reference to just the application under the Wildlife Act, I have been advised that, on balance, whilst the bird, the kororā, live in that rock wall and do return to that area sometimes in the evening, that during the daytimes and during the period which the works will be undertaken, there is a very low chance, as I best understand, that those kororā will be on site. However, when granting the permit, those are at the forefront of the Department of Conservation's considerations. They're left with two options: (1) relocate those kororā in the event that they're found; or (2) leave them there and let the works occur around them. On balance, the Department of Conservation made the determination that to grant the authority under the Wildlife Act was the best in the circumstances for the preservation of the kororā.