BRETT HUDSON: Well, if the Minister's not stronger than they are, he should think very seriously about vacating his seat in the Beehive because, I tell you what, there wouldn't be anyone on this side that wouldn't be prepared to stand up to them. But the point he missed, saying the NRA could just waltz in and start up a club, is in the SOP 445. It says it has to be certified by the commissioner.