Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS: In answer to the second part of the question, the Minister for Climate Change and I speak frequently about the need to decarbonise our economy—indeed, as the whole world needs to do. And I do point that member to a recent report from the International Energy Agency that actually recommends to the rest of the world that they go down a path that New Zealand did in 2018, that we cannot keep issuing new permits for the exploration for oil and gas as we face a climate emergency.