Hon NANAIA MAHUTA (Minister of Local Government): Yes. In particular, I stand by my statement "The case for change is compelling." The member might want to take that line! The evidence is clear that all communities will benefit from the Government's proposed three waters reforms. Without this change, communities are going to either face very large bills for water services or infrastructure will continue to degrade, with ongoing health and environmental consequences. Both of these outcomes are unacceptable. And, as I said, wider benefits will also include greater borrowing capability, strengthened governance capabilities, procurement efficiencies, operational proficiencies, smarter asset management, a more predictable pipeline of investment.