Programmes that are proven to reduce reoffending are worth more discussion in this House, and they don't get the same kind of air time. It's things like independent reviews which have shown to be effective in stopping serious crime, or the programmes like the alcohol and other drug treatment courts or the AODT courts. Those provide an evidence-based best practice treatment pathway that includes intensive monitoring, case management, drug testing, and mentoring. And when we assess them at a population-wide level of all of the people who have gone through those programmes or an individual level about the way that the cycle of offending has impacted this particular person's life—on both of those measures, programmes like that are shown to reduce offending, to reduce crime overall, and to, therefore, reduce harm on the communities who suffer the effects of that crime. 