It's great to be here and great to take a call on this bill. I would like to just refute a couple of the points made by the previous speaker from the Green Party. She made a very astute point, which was that once we pass this legislation, it won't just be a rosy road straight away. And I would like to just remind the speaker that that is dead right. There isn't going to be a rosy road for the Institutes of Technology and Polytechnics of New Zealand sector and vocational education and training in New Zealand under these changes, and the advice that the Tertiary Education Commission (TEC) have been very clear to us about has been that this will cost taxpayers $200 million to $400 million for the cost of these reforms—to make these changes—and that there will be an additional $50 million per year needing to be put into the sector just to make these changes work. So no, there won't be a rosy road, and, in fact, it's going to cost an enormous amount of taxpayers' money to make this work.