Hon KRIS FAAFOI: As I have said already during this line of questioning, we acknowledge the difficult situations that those families are in. I think they would also acknowledge the difficulty and complexity of having to manage the border in order to get to the state that New Zealand currently is in, where we are considering options such as the trans-Tasman bubble. Those are complex decisions. We understand, as I've said, that we can, along the way, take into consideration some of those groups who are facing difficulties with the border settings, but our primary concern is making sure that we can keep New Zealanders safe, and I would stress again: New Zealanders trust our judgment on those settings.