DEBBIE NGAREWA-PACKER (Co-Leader—Te Paati Māori): This policy, previously introduced by National, has been extremely punitive and cruel, and has done more harm than good, already marginalising predominantly Māori and, yes, wāhine. By removing this policy, parents and caregivers can do exactly that—parent and care-give without fear of ridicule and shame. This policy smacked of beneficiary bashing. It is actually shame—whakamā—that is taking our whānau out and killing us. It's the shame of being able to be too whakamā to ask for help. It's the shame of being too whakamā to ask for addiction support, to sit there and say, "If I put my head up, I'm going to be noticed for all the things that I don't want to be noticed for." In fact, what we've done is create a generation of those that are too scared to ask for help when they're most vulnerable. 