It's very interesting to me that when we were down there—and, as Nicola Grigg said, many of us have been down there to a number of these properties across a period of a number of years, led, particularly in the first instance, by the Hon Jacqui Dean when she held the portfolio—all we've seen is farmers and leaseholders doing their best. They are actually getting rid of exotic pest plants, and they know where indigenous species live next to those exotic plants. They're not out to destroy everything around them; they're actually out to get rid of those wilding pines that are getting in the way of nature, of their farming operation, of tourism, and of all of those things that have gone on down there. 