Hon JAMES SHAW: Well, I think that the member needs to have more faith in the New Zealand farming community and in the agricultural businesses that are conducting research and have been conducting research over the course of the last decade. This Government has spent something like $200 million over the course of the last 10 to 12 years—started by the previous National Government and continued by the current Government—into reducing agricultural emissions. It's quite clear that the New Zealand agricultural sector, as I said, including Apiculture New Zealand, Beef + Lamb, DairyNZ, the Dairy Companies Association of New Zealand, Deer Industry New Zealand, Federated Farmers, the Federation of Māori Authorities, Fonterra, the Foundation for Arable Research, Horticulture New Zealand, Irrigation New Zealand, and the Meat Industry Association, have got with the programme, and I think that that member should too. 