I want to quote, firstly, before asking two or three questions of the Minister, from page 11 of the Budget Policy Statement 2021, and I'm going to go back and relate it to 2019-20, which is pretty much where we're at, although I realise it's a random walk across two or three years. It says at the top of that page: "We went into COVID-19 in a strong position, with net core Crown debt below 20% of GDP and running surpluses." Well, it left three words out of that sentence, because it was "and running surpluses into the ground". 