But it was a good committee; it was a real learning experience for me. I already made the point, but whether it was Parekura Horomia or whether it was Hone Harawira, or whether it was Tau Henare, there were some great characters on the committee who I learnt a lot from. As has been said, the whanaungatanga—it ran differently than other committees. Other committees—obviously, I suppose, Western committees, we'd say, were more formal, and it was more adversarial. But on this one, one was expected to be not like that and to be more collegial and, dare I say it, friendly, although, as I say, sometimes the passions ran very high on it.