Hon CARMEL SEPULONI: I absolutely support my colleague in his support for the system, in trying to make Oranga Tamariki work better for children. He has been very up front himself about the fact that the system has failed children for far too long, and I'm absolutely with Minister Davis on that. I did receive that member's minority view on the bill. She was somewhat confused, thinking that Minister Davis was in charge of this bill, and actually stated in her minority view that she didn't support independent—