Going to a number of early childhood centres with this legislation and trying to get from them what the issues are—and look, there are a number of issues. Having visited a number of centres, let's traverse some of the issues that they are looking at. Child-to-teacher ratios: major issues there. Pay parity—where the Government has caused more harm than good. Quality assurance: spot checks are not regularly occurring that we were led to believe would occur. High costs to parents—and here we see the impact, again, on those squeezed middle-income families, who have got high childcare costs. The free hours for those over three years old just simply are not free hours for many families. The administrative burden on teachers and centre managers; the restrictions on the six hours per day that can be claimed; the skill shortages and the desperate issues that they have around being able to access qualified teachers, who are simply burning out—these are all real problems. They're real problems looking for solutions, not solutions looking for a problem, as the Minister has gone here.