The unintended consequences—I've explained, the early childhood centres, some will have to close, the ratios will change, will get greater, and the fees will go up. The consultation process was non-existent. I'm not sure of Minister Hipkins' definition of "consultation" but I think it's pertinent to just remind ourselves of a High Court judge's definition of "consultation", if I may just quote this: "Consultation must allow sufficient time, and a genuine effort must be made. It is a reality not a charade. … To "consult" is not merely to tell or present. … consultation is to seek at least consensus. … Implicit in the concept is a requirement that the party consulted will be (or will be made) adequately informed so as to be able to make intelligent and useful responses. It is also implicit that the party obliged to consult, while quite entitled to have a working plan already in mind, must keep its mind open and be ready to change and even start afresh." 