I think back to the time of my own tupuna, Whaea Te Puea, when in the 1930s she sent Koro Piri Poutapu to Te Ao Mārama to refine his carving skills under the senior tutelage of Eramiha Kapua and working alongside Pine and John Taiapa to carve the whare Te Hono ki Rarotonga. He returned home to support a number of the old lady's other projects such as Tūrongo House, the Kāwhia Methodist Church, Ngātokimatawhaorua, and going on to oversee many of our own Waikato master carvers such as Īnia Te Wīata.