This did not need to go to court. The PPTA did not have to take this to court, because you can't tell me that the Minister hadn't been told by the PPTA early on, "Hey, the Teaching Council are out of control. They're empire-building, their costs are increasing, they're going beyond their mandate, they're doing things that teachers don't want, they're not properly consulting with the sector." They can't tell me that the Minister didn't know that. And he did nothing. It clearly indicates that there is a Minister quite busy with another portfolio that he has, and ignoring what is going on right under his nose. These things happened under his watch. Those staff costs increased $3 million under his watch.