Hon SIMON BRIDGES: He's blaming the water now! David Seymour is blaming the water. I mean, that's fundamentally what we've got to, the level of this debate. So my simple point is that if this is an evidence-based, harm-reduction issue, which I suggest most of those around me say it is, well, actually, we shouldn't do this. Use goes up, fatalities go up, and there is a false confidence, when no MDMA—even if someone comes along and says, "Well, it's got no impurities", or it has—is safe.