The issue is that, when people discover that they're having a particular gender child, they can make a decision whether to abort or not. When a parent finds out that there is an issue with the child in utero—that they might have Down syndrome, they might have spina bifida, they might have any kind of a disability—it is an opportunity for that parent to make that decision to abort. What I am actually saying is that we should not allow that discrimination. I have fought discrimination all my life. As an Asian New Zealander, discrimination is rife out there against people who are of different ethnicities, and yet this bill is allowing people to discriminate on gender and disability in utero. After 20 weeks, when the sex is actually known, they should not be allowed to abort. This is ridiculous.