For those who are watching tonight, those who believe this is an abortion debate, it is not an abortion debate. As the previous speaker pointed out, that debate was had several years ago and abortion is now part of the New Zealand landscape. Whether or not it's abortion on demand is debatable. I believe, from what I have learnt, it is abortion on demand. However, I do not agree with those who believe we should go back to a day where all abortions were illegal, because you will end up putting it back where it was—in the hands of criminals. If you think it's bad—anything now to do with abortion—wait until you end up back in those days. Most abortionists were caught because they had butchered a job or butchered a woman—butchered a victim. That was how they were caught. So I would implore those who believe that this is a re-debate of abortion to think again.