My colleague mentioned that she had worked in the criminal justice space; for me, a lot of my work has been on the defence side. And I do think when you've been doing that for a number of years, sometimes it can be difficult to consider the space of victims' rights. It was about two months ago when I met the Chief Victims Advisor at a men's rights activist meeting, and it was really that discussion and then reading her report from 2019, which called for several changes to be made in the space of victims' rights, that I really saw the process we were going through a select committee quite differently. It is something else to sit in that room and listen to the stories we did. So I'd also thank the member not just for the important changes but for giving those families a space to be heard. I think one of the things I learnt early on is that it's not always just the families; it's people who witnessed some of these atrocious acts, including colleagues in employment settings, including members of the public as well.