ERICA STANFORD (National—East Coast Bays): Thank you, Madam Chair. I just want to take issue with what the Minister said in relation to the answer to my question. He gave the example of a centre that hadn't applied for a licence when they'd already opened. I think the point to make quite clearly is that the current licensing arrangements are such that they are checkbox exercises. As long as you meet the criteria, you will get a licence. The issue with this new licensing arrangement, and why I brought my Supplementary Order Paper (SOP), is because that is not guaranteed any more. It is up to the Minister to decide who gets the pre-licence out of a number of applications, depending on his set list, which we've had an idea upon about who he will prioritise, whether or not he thinks that there is significant demand or enough for another centre in that area. So it is not guaranteed. 