It's interesting; the Minister loves to crow about debt and how we're low and that means that we don't need to basically worry about it. But it's interesting; when you look at the actual figures in the document, debt has gone from roughly $60 billion, 24 months ago, to about $124 billion today. Under this Minister, we have doubled our debt in 24 months—almost a record. I suggest, it is a record doubling of debt. That has occurred at a time when New Zealand is the country that has spent more on COVID response than any other country apart from the US. We've spent more on COVID response than any other country, other than the US. Whilst we support the $24 billion that has been paid towards supporting businesses through this difficult time, and their employees—that is something we have absolutely no truck with—the bit that we find absolutely concerning is the other $36 billion that has been blown by this Labour Government on so many issues, so much wasteful spending—dumb spending—that has got us to a point where we are today. 