I was so frustrated that I even asked her if her PhD was in this field. I don't think so, but, you know, if it was, then I would have actually said that maybe she knows best. But I don't think her PhD is in this field. I would have thought that if one does not actually have the expertise in this field, one should take advice from officials whose job is to actually advise the Minister, who does, in fact, have the expertise. And yet the Minister would not actually take advice.