Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: That is not how I would summarise what I was saying. I've said that there have been outbreaks in Australia, and of course that has caused complication. Then, secondary to that, it has been suggested that we could simply in those scenarios just not travel between ourselves and that state. The point I was making is that often in those outbreaks, those borders are remaining open—in fact, in the places where they haven't been doing that and they have remained closed, they often do not have a direct route of travel to New Zealand, nor have opened to New Zealand.