The other thing that I wanted to say is that there are drystock farmers who will directly benefit from the changes that we're introducing here, because one of the issues that the emissions trading scheme has is that it is, frankly, mind-bogglingly complicated, and for someone who wants to be a forestry participant in it, it's tended to favour large, complex businesses that are able to navigate the complex system that's been created. One of the things that we wanted to do was to simplify it so that a farmer who's got plenty to deal with on their plate but does have a small patch of their land that they wouldn't mind getting more value out of is able to participate much more easily. So what that means is that there will be farmers who will be able to get more revenue per hectare for some parts of their farms than they currently can.