What's the best that Labour can say about this law? Well, I think it's in the regulatory impact statement. They say about the three-strikes law that it results in "excessive and disproportionate punishment by preventing sentencing judges from taking the circumstances of the offenders and offending into account." And I want to go through that. Firstly, "excessive and disproportionate", they say. Rubbish. They may want to, as they have in so many of the laws that have come through the justice department here in New Zealand, import US-style culture wars to this country, but it is a load of rubbish. There is not a single case that they can point to, that any academic can point to, that anyone in the judiciary can point to where someone's been sentenced for theft of a piece of pizza for 50 years in jail or the like. It simply hasn't happened in this country.