What we have to ask ourselves in this House is: do we really believe that this Government is already extracting maximum value from every dollar of taxpayer money that it spends? I put it to you that the answer is absolutely not, and I want to just run you through the small example of what's been going on with housing in this country. Here we are with a Government that's given Kāinga Ora, the State housing entity, an $8.3 billion borrowing facility, and, at the same time, that State housing agency has overseen a quadrupling in the State house waiting list. We have more people in need than ever before. 