DAVID SEYMOUR (Leader—ACT): Well, thank you, Madam Chair. I rise as a reminder to the Minister in the chair, the Hon Nanaia Mahuta, that embracing the new format of the committee stage put in place by the Standing Orders Committee—where members are invited to ask questions of the Minister and try and seek more information that, you know, people watching the Parliament, members of Parliament, might be interested in hearing—we can actually ask what the Minister's thinking and what the rationale behind something like the commencement clause is. People sitting at home watching this might like to know that the Chair of the committee just turned to the Minister, as if to ask "Do you want to take a call?", and the Minister shook her head and said "No." So I'm probably wasting my time. People watching who want to know what the Minister's thinking are probably wasting their time.