Hon TODD McCLAY (National—Rotorua): Madam Speaker, thank you very much. Normally, on this side of the House, all MPs start a speech in a debate like this saying, "We welcome the opportunity to speak on the issue." But in the case of this Budget, it's very hard to welcome it, and the reason for that is it has a very, very large amount of money the Government is committing to spend, backed up by one of the largest amounts of debt this country has ever seen, but what it will deliver on is a bit like KiwiBuild; it's very, very hard to see.