My final point is I just want to take a statement, if you like, around what Minister Robertson was saying around not being distracted by fomites. What I'm observing is the hat that suits is the hat that's worn. Let's remember the proposition is that for the Americold case, the fomite was the lift button. That's the explanation, and yet here we are being told today, "Well, we don't know if it's the laundry worker. Fomites aren't quite what they're made out to be." It seems to me that you wear the right hat when you want to.