To the first part, then: who says these reforms will fail? I have four independent Government entities that I'll draw information from who all say these reforms will fail. First of all, the Tertiary Education Commission (TEC) and the programme business case. Here is what their view and their summary, the Minister of Education's own department, his own people—here's what they say about the risks of these reforms. The risk of workforce disruption is "Almost certain". The risk of participation in vocational education dropping is "Almost certain". The risk that the needs of industry and employers are not being met is "almost certain". The risk that the needs of the regions are not met is "Almost certain". Finally, and here's the most damning part, the likelihood that the new model does not achieve the desired outcomes is "Likely", and the impact of all of these is "Extreme"—the Tertiary Education Commission. 