But before I get into that, I do have to respond to the comments by a previous National speaker talking about "standing for freedom" and the "flexibility for business". The idea of freedom, for me, doesn't equate with the reality that we've had in this industry of entire casts being fired for approaching the producer to try and negotiate collective conditions. That's what happened under the "Hobbit law": an entire cast, wanting just to talk about the possibility of being able to get some collective conditions, were fired. The production decided to start again.