These are youth—that I had the pleasure of going to a meeting not that long ago—who spent three years putting together a document especially for people like us who sit in Wellington and don't listen. They wrote a document especially for us to understand how to communicate with them, how to listen to them, and how to make sure that they are heard in a correct manner. Any member on the other side of the House that decides in the future that they want to engage with young people, I recommend that you look for this document: Kia Tika, Kia Pono – Honouring Truths. It's an ethical framework for engaging with children and young people who are care experienced. These are the ones that are affected by this bill. These are the ones that have to go through life being let down by our system. These are the ones that know what it feels like when we get it wrong, and they are telling us that we are getting it very, very wrong. 