RACHEL BOYACK: Isn't it a great thing? Trades halls are great places. So look, the point is is that for those employers, they can and they should be paying more. And as many commentators have pointed out today, it's actually critical for the community, for the customers of those places. How would you feel going into a supermarket knowing that there was somebody there who should have stayed at home but did not have enough sick leave and actually was pressured and felt obligated to go to work and then they're serving you food across the counter? 