PENNY SIMMONDS (National—Invercargill): Thank you, Madam Chair. I'd just like the Minister to confirm whether section 14(4) of the Misuse of Drugs Act, which provides for the Minister to be able to give approval to grant a licence to any person who has had a conviction under the Misuse of Drugs Act, Darius Fagan means that the Minister could approve, for example, a gang member who had previously had drug convictions to then, at some stage later, get a licence to do the drug testing?