HELEN WHITE (Labour): Kia ora. I'd like to start, today, my speech just by a little rebuttal there for Penny Simmonds. On Friday, I took a caucus tour through a whole lot of really amazing place in Auckland, and one of them was the Media Design School. It's an absolutely wonderful university-type arrangement—so it's after you have finished school, you go in and you actually do all sorts of things that are associated with gaming, and they're associated with creative production—