Hon CARMEL SEPULONI: As I've said in the House before, we need to keep all figures in perspective. We have the lowest unemployment rate, at 4 percent, that we have experienced in a decade. We have a working-age population on benefit of 10.5 percent, which is relative, if not better, to every year that the previous Government were in. We are consistently focused on how we can support people into upskilling and training, and I think that that is shown through our investment in 263 more work-focused case managers. I think that we all need to remain conscious of what is going on with respect to COVID-19. We will continually assess the situation to make sure that we are acting in the best interests of New Zealanders.