I take issue with some of the comments that the Hon Paul Goldsmith made with regard to the Government's "addiction" to spending, and he referred also to the amount of money that has been borrowed. I would say to Mr Goldsmith that that money that has been borrowed, that has been spent, has allowed businesses to continue to operate during this global pandemic. That is not to diminish that many businesses have done it extremely hard. That is happening without a doubt, and some have also even closed up. However, that money that has been provided to business has allowed some to continue operating. It has allowed them to continue to employ New Zealanders, to keep New Zealanders in jobs during what has been an awful time globally and nationally.