I find it very interesting that the deputy leader of the Labour Party would stand up and attack Simon and his whakapapa. He attacks him because he doesn't sound like him. Because he doesn't speak like him, for some reason his status, his mana, is diminished, and that goes against everything that they're meant to stand for and what they continue to attack us on. So while the deputy leader of the Labour Party was standing and delivering that speech, he's also the Minister of Corrections. I can tell you that I've seen an email in the last two days from the Corrections department saying that they're under serious pressure because of the rise in prison numbers. They don't have the beds for serious offending. The reason why they need them is because serious offending is going up under this Government.