But isn't it funny, when we're dealing with crime, gangs, holding people to account, not taking excuses for victims—no, no, Labour and the far left of the Greens: "We're going to block it." That's the first option. The second is, tonight, we've heard from one of the other members talking about lived experiences, everything. Well, what is fascinating, to that Labour member: first and foremost, "Lived experience is everything." is one of the weakest, stupidest irrational arguments possible.