Fair pay agreements, consistent with sector-based bargaining systems around the world, actually support the workforce and employers to come together to deal with some of the long-term challenges that we face, whether it's around productivity, whether it's around skills and training, whether it's around critical work shortages, which actually most employers identified to us is the biggest handbrake that they currently face on their future growth prospects. We actually believe, on this side of the Chamber, that workers and employers working together on those issues through sector-based frameworks is a good thing. That side of the Chamber has never been able to accept that workers have anything valuable to contribute to those discussions, and that's just the fundamental difference between us and them.