You see, the country—we have come a long way. We've come a long, long way. Every year we get better at this stuff. This stuff won't go away. Co-governance, Māori looking for meaningful engagement and partnership at the decision-making table will not go away. And if that side of the House don't understand it, they should probably listen to the words of their ex-Treaty negotiations Minister, the Hon Chris Finlayson, who only a very short time ago wrote a media article, actually just calling out some people—some of those people that think of co-governance as the bogeyman. He said this, in his article, dated 29 May 2022, authored by Chris Finlayson—the article was titled "Co-governance should be embraced—not feared." He says, "'Co-governance' has become a term that [many] people don't understand. They think it means co-government. People who are frightened by co-governance think they'll be locked out of access to our natural resources, for example. When what it really means is that involving iwi in a myriad of decisions can actually result in a better country." How about that—how about that? His words, and I quote, "The people I call 'the KKK brigade' are out there. They dream of a world that never was, and never could be. They are the people—and these words," he says, aren't his, "but are taken from a former British foreign secretary—that you can call the 'sour right'"—call them the sour right, he says. "They don't really understand tangata whenua. They don't really like change." 