Coupled with the extra costs—who's going to pay for this? The simple reality is if this generic comes in at a central government level, those costs are going to be deferred to council and those will ultimately be shared by ratepayers. Is the Minister going to make good on asserting what sort of costs and revenue earnings the local councils will have to uptake and the farmers will lose by revenue earnings at the farm gate? Does this Government know? Does the Minister know? I'd like to challenge him on those figures. And if he doesn't have them, why doesn't he have them, because rural New Zealand is at complete odds with what this Minister and the ministry is trying to assert. 