Now, I did listen to Minister Chris Hipkins take five minutes to outline some of the reasons why the Government's voting against this bill, and one of the reasons he highlighted was red tape. Now, that made me laugh, because it's not very often a Labour Minister comes down to this House and complains about red tape, but the reason he said, "We can't have this bill because of red tape." Well, actually, Minister, this bill is about transparency. If all we were concerned about was red tape and putting compliance on to Government agencies and departments, we wouldn't have the Official Information Act, because that is red tape, but it's an important tool for transparency in a democracy. So I can't quite fathom why it is that the Government would be voting against this bill, which is all about transparency.