I turn to the comments by the member Chris Penk, who argued in favour of SOP 479 about criminalising abortion. The reality is the starting point for abortion is that it is a crime. It is a defence to the crime that you've had an abortion consistently with the Contraception, Sterilisation, and Abortion Act. That is the legal structure of abortion in New Zealand. That is why this legislation seeks to take abortion out of a criminal framework and to make it a matter for the health system, for health or medical practitioners, and the women who seek the support and assistance and consultation at a time when they are faced with making that decision. That is why that provision, the new section 183, is there. As I said, as I argued when the House was last in committee debating this, I don't go with us legislating for health standards and putting obligations on health practitioners that are already provided for in their professional practice, in their articulated professional obligations, and the things that their various colleges put out for them and require them to abide by and comply with, because that is the basis of complaints not only to the profession themselves but to the Health and Disability Commissioner as well.