Hon NANAIA MAHUTA: Thank you for the question. New Zealand accepts that there are gaps in scientific knowledge relating to deep seabed mining and the impacts of it. At this moment, we're proactively supporting work in the Pacific to improve our scientific understanding of the impacts of deep-sea mining, with a particular focus on marine ecosystems, habitats, and their species. It is clear that deep-sea mining has the potential to cause significant harm to the deep seabed, but our limited knowledge of the deep seabed means it's hard to quantify that harm. That's why New Zealand is advocating for a precautionary approach in the negotiations taking place at ISA, with a view to ensuring the highest standards of environmental protection. If those high standards mean that deep-sea mining cannot currently take place, then so be it.