But my point is, the reality is every job lost is a family who struggles, and a family who struggles to put food on the table and pay for the roof over their head. So I actually think they deserve a bit more detail from this Government in terms of what actually is going to happen on the ground. But what have we got: zero detail. Zero detail: $150 million that's going to the Ministry of Social Development (MSD). But actually, what have they been spending the last lot of money on—that was meant to be for work-focused case managers? Oh, well actually the number of employment engagements—put it this way: if you were a newly employed person, you would hope that you could turn to MSD and get support. Yep, they'll help you get a hardship grant, which you'll need, that's great. But actually what you need more is a job. You need a job to be able to provide an income for your family. 