To take it further, Netsafe's chief executive has also made similar comments, and I think it speaks to the heart when you've got the head of Women's Refuge and the head of Netsafe agreeing that this is exactly what the problem is. The chief executive, Martin Cocker, has said that the typical image-based sexual abuse reports from women tend to involve an ex-partner trying to maintain control, blackmail them, or as retaliation for leaving the relationship. And he said that sometimes these cases are part of a wider pattern of family violence.