Now, if the sector was able to pay people a lot more—and look, I've worked in the waste industry. I know what it's like to go to a site, to work at a rubbish tip, to work in hazardous environments wearing a whole lot of personal protective equipment, where things don't smell that great, and you'd have to say that, actually, working in some facilities that care for people would have some similarities to that. Now, that's not to say that those workers aren't valued, because they are. But in fact, those roles are just not as desirable as other roles in society which people do aspire to become qualified at and to move on. 