Hon JAMES SHAW: Well, as I have said many, many times in a number of forums, New Zealand has yet to see a sustained decline in our greenhouse gas emissions right across the economy, and, in fact, once we do start to see that sustained decline, we need to see that every year until we hit net zero. That just underscores the importance of the work that we've been doing over the course of the last four years to bend the curve of our emissions downwards over a sustained period of time.