We know that the Government's own advisory group that gave substantive recommendations on how to overhaul the welfare system was unequivocal that financial sanctions do not work and that, instead, we should be putting in place a system on mutual expectations. At no point was the report actually saying that what we should be doing is cutting people's incomes as a way to address the lack of trust that people may be having with our welfare system. So I hope that our Labour members in this House channel the critical energy they have for the National Party with their sanctions regime to look at their own policy, to finally introduce policies that support people, meet their aspirations, because we cannot rely on the status quo. We cannot rely on regulations that simply see a reduction in sanctions, because, if the National Party gets back in, what we do know is that, if their legislation hasn't changed, what they'll do is they'll ramp up those sanctions, they'll ramp up that punitive approach.