Also, the up to three-yearly report on the state of Oranga Tamariki, which is similar, I would argue, to the reports that were done by Russell Wills, in terms of the Children's Commission, that were hugely influential and important for us as a country, my understanding is that the content of that report is going to be defined by regulation. That is political. That is not independent. So I would like to hear the Minister address that point and tell me how independence is actually maintained in that context. 