If we come back to the question of who knows the land best, I acknowledge absolutely that those who have lived on the land know it really well. They'll also, in discussions with many of them—and I'd put to you that I've been on more high-country leases than just about everyone in this House over the last 12 months, and I'll give you a list of them if you like. Can I say that, as we understand across other areas of the farming sectors, there's a lot that we don't know as well.