To hear from members in this House about what it has meant to them and their families in what is not that long ago is more than distressing; it's something that every single New Zealander should know about, should be concerned about, shouldn't be ashamed of—because it's not them that was there—but needs to work hard to make sure that people know about it and that it can never happen again. The last speaker talking about what happened to families, when they said what they had to do with their children if there was a knock on the door, is more than traumatic; it will live in the memories of those families.