This bill needs to be about much more than safeguarding market access for New Zealand logs and timber. It needs to prevent the curse of deforestation in temperate and tropical rainforests. It needs to be strengthened if it's going to have any significant impact in outlawing illegal logging and ending the human rights abuses that logging has on customary forest owners and on indigenous peoples. And the Green Party will be looking for changes in the Primary Production Committee to ensure that the bill has a robust regime in terms of what constitutes legal and illegal harvest. And we want to see its scope expanded beyond timber products to include all forest products, including palm oil and palm kernel expeller (PKE), because, as the Minister noted, the scale of illegal logging is enormous and it's having huge impacts not only on plants and wildlife and the integrity of the forest but on the indigenous communities that depend on those forests for their cultural and social identity and wellbeing, and it's having huge impacts on the climate because deforestation and the change in land use to farming involves enormous loss of carbon. Illegal logging is violence against people, against nature, and against the climate. 