And here's another thing I want to ask the Minister of Conservation and believe that New Zealand needs an explanation for: what happened to that promise that she made midway through the lockdown that she would be providing financial relief to people who had concessions to hunt or to commercially operate or to undertake pest control on conservation land, but couldn't? What happened to that relief? Because the stories I'm hearing are that far from concession fees being waived during that time, they haven't. There have been promises made, and I have heard one person with a concession flagging to me that they are not only not receiving any assistance, but expecting an increase in the concession fee. Where is the thinking there? 