My view, Chlöe Swarbrick, is that they feel even more strongly about harder illicit drugs—certainly methamphetamine, but also, when they think about it, ecstasy, which is a class A drug, at the top of our criminal calendar, because it is viewed, rightly, by the scientists, by this Parliament, and by the courts as a much more serious drug than cannabis. In short, most Kiwis, when they think it all through, don't want to go soft on drugs. But that's the agenda. 