HELEN WHITE (Labour): I rise in support of this bill. I was actually an employment lawyer, but I was married to a senior family lawyer who did exactly this kind of work. I often actually was pleased to be doing something that meant just slightly less to people than their families and their children. I was absolutely admiring of the work done by counsel for children in the time that I saw them working. They were extremely selfless. They were sensitive, and they were not egotistical. They didn't actually make themselves the most important person in the room. They often made the children that, and that was one of the things that will be very important to fulfilling that role.