A friend of mine, Craig, a number of years ago, came out to me. He'd lived a life of depression. He'd lived a life of a lot going on. So I asked him today, I said, "What does this piece of legislation mean for you? What does it actually mean?" And he said, "The more I continue working to grow out of the harm that was done simply by listening to and coming to believe the ideology the proponents of conversion therapy profess to be true, the more I realise how incredibly insidious these ideals were and how deep the damage went. Living a huge part of my life in fear and extreme doubt, struggling with mental health in the form of severe depression, my only real defence being secrecy, I'm now in my early forties starting to fully understand what it is to be at relative peace with oneself and freely expressing the daily moments of joy that make life worth living." In his forties, and he's still trying to overcome the challenges of something that us as a church put upon him and put upon others.