SIMON O'CONNOR: Right. That's brilliant. So we once again have the great sage of Marja Lubeck deciding what is and isn't out of good faith, which is the exact point that good faith is about a discussion, not a heckling. And so, drawing it back to Part 3 again, I think, Minister, we all agree with the nature of good faith, it's just does he understand the paradox that to prescribe what is and is not in good faith is, in fact, counter-productive.