I wish to address in particular the issue that was raised by the previous speaker, Andrew Bayly, about the levels of debt that are prudent. Now, as it turned out, before going into the COVID crisis, through all sorts of reasons this Labour Government had reduced our debt to around about 19 percent of GDP—the lowest it had been in a very long time indeed. Along came the crisis, and at that stage the necessity was to keep the economy going, so we adopted the best health response, and we adopted the response that kept people in jobs, kept businesses going, and sustained our economy. And the way we did that—in common with countries around the world—was we adopted the strategy of borrowing to meet this crisis. So our debt has increased. But the issue is not whether or not debt has increased; the issue is whether or not debt is at a prudent level. Is it at a level that is sustainable for the New Zealand economy? Is it at a level where we can maintain our obligations and, over time, repay the debt?