Hon KIERAN McANULTY: There are a number of proposed mechanisms by which the entities would remain accountable to the communities that retain the ownership over them. The point of the reforms and the point of the structure that is being proposed is very simple, but it appears to be a point that is either misunderstood or deliberately overlooked. We are facing a $185 billion problem, and at the moment, the status quo, it is the ratepayers of this country who will face that bill. If we do not reform, as every single council in the country is calling for and as the Auditor-General is calling for in their submission, if we stay with the status quo like the National Party and the ACT Party are proposing, a $185 billion cost will be borne by ratepayers and ratepayers alone.