HARETE HIPANGO (National): Thank you, Madam Chair. I think it's abundantly clear that the Minister and his ministry—which I commend for the efforts and the work that is done by the workers within the ministry—have made a commitment for the transformation. Again, I put the question to the Minister, which has been evaded at least three times now: in terms of fiscal commitment, does the Minister consider that the fiscal commitment in the Estimates is on an equitable basis to meet the needs of Māori children in State care?