Anyway, the way that section 12 of the Misuse of Drugs Act works right now—to make it really clear to the National Party, who I'm not sure have actually read this bill, section 12 in the Misuse of Drugs Act makes it illegal to knowingly provide a place for people to consume substances. Arguably, tonnes and tonnes, unknowable amounts—the majority of bar owners, of club owners, and of festival organisers in this country—are currently in violation of this law. I have spoken behind the scenes to many of those organisers, who have been terrified at the prospect of enabling NGOs like KnowYourStuffNZ on to their premises, into their festivals, because they would therefore be accepting the premise that they are knowingly having people consuming substances at their festivals, at their venues, at the places and spaces that they organise. But those same festival organisers, those same club owners, say to me—and I'm sure if the National Party sought to speak to them would say—that they are utterly terrified of having a young person die in a place and a space that they organised. Because this isn't tiddlywinks. This is reality. New South Wales experienced over a dozen young people dying in the past year. The New South Wales chief coroner recommended drug-checking services as a way to ensure that these kinds of needless deaths do not happen in the future. But still the National Party would prefer to stick their heads in the sand. 