I want to address the main points that the opposition have raised for the reasons for declining to put this bill through to select committee. The first that they said is that there was no consultation with iwi. Well, if they knew anything about conservation, they would go back to the Conservation Act in itself, and section 4, which says that with all matters conservation, there will be effect given to the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi, and that goes for all subordinate legislation. So that would take care of that. But equally, just like the indigenous fish bill that the Minister put forward with zero consultation with iwi, you would take it to select committee and consult with iwi and other affected parties to make sure that the bill was robust and to make sure that everybody had their say and that the information was presented, documented, and incorporated into a bill.