Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: I agree with his sentiment; I think all New Zealanders would. The situation where we have no one being held responsible for what is a devastating case is something that of course we want to see changed. I would say to the member: I don't think we'd be in disagreement on this. I know some years ago this was something that the National Party faced when they were in Government. They sought to make law changes. Clearly, that hasn't necessarily been the solution we needed. We're now going ahead and looking again to see whether or not there are other solutions, and this is one of those issues where if the member would like to join us, I'd welcome it.