But for those who have just tuned in to the debate, as well, it's also true that there has been much said about funerals that I have heard in the context of this debate. And I have to say, as a Cabinet, certainly, my experience—and I've heard the Prime Minister also talk about this, and other Cabinet Ministers—limiting the number of people attending a tangi or a funeral is one of the most difficult decisions we've had to make in the context of COVID-19. Grieving for the loss of a loved one is an incredibly intense and difficult human experience, and people in those situations do tend to want to physically comfort one another. That is the reality of the grieving process. As a funeral celebrant myself, I've been involved in many funerals and, of course, have observed the way in which we do comfort each other in these situations. Overseas, sadly, we have seen situations where people who've come together for the purpose of grieving—in funerals where they have gathered there has been spread of COVID-19 and then there has been further, subsequent, tragic loss. And so that is not something we ever want to see in this country.