Now, this is the kind of thing that triggers survivors and their families. For so long, this House and the country has had people raising concerns about the practices of our so-called child protection services, and the response we've had from officials has been assurances that, actually, there's nothing to see here. This was an aberration, a one-off event! It is not systemic! All we've been told: yes, there may be some problems here, but we're on to it! We've got the solution in place! It will all be different now! No more children! We hear it exactly copy-and-paste, 20 years on. We've had careful political responses from officials, protecting the institutions and not our children. And I'm not putting all of this on officials, because we have to acknowledge that this is not about them solely. This is about the interaction between the political decisions and the system.