But if we look at MPI's analysis of what the impacts of that actually would be, the economic loss to farmers and the economy would be significant. I'll read a few points, if I may, from the MPI analysis, and it says, "Live animal exports provide a boost to New Zealand's economy and rural communities. Any move to prohibit the export of livestock would cause an economic loss to these groups and make recovery from COVID-19 more difficult in the rural communities where livestock exports provide an additional source of income. For some individual businesses, that impact is likely to be significant." It also goes on to say, "The direct value of New Zealand's livestock exports was $261.5 million for the year ending December 2020." It also says that "MPI's view is that reputational impacts are real but difficult to quantify. These risks should be taken seriously, but can be managed through enhancing the regulatory framework." 