It's always troubling to me when I hear other politicians in other parties say, "Turn the spending taps off. It's all going to go terribly wrong.", and have these cries that come from decades ago, cries for austerity in a time of need. I think it's absolutely right that we should be looking now at the really significant challenges that face us—the climate challenges, the health challenges, the infrastructure challenges—and investing now because it's prudent to do so. Now, we know that debt is rising, but debt should rise. When your children are sick or when your roof is leaking, you do not stop spending. You fix what needs to be fixed so that you're strong and resilient for the future, and that's what we have ahead of us.