Also, I'd be very keen to have an understanding from him on the adverse effects, if any, from his perspective over the last few years that the legislation has been in its current state, on those rural communities, in particular, where we have seen a significant area of land converted to forestry, fast-tracked through the OIA process under the special forestry test, and outcompeting other New Zealand potential purchasers. The Minister raised the example of Crafa Farms, a bit over a decade ago, I think it was, at that stage. But what we've seen in communities around New Zealand, as a result of the legislation as it currently sits, is that sheep and beef farmers have been outbid by overseas investors wanting to put quite productive land into forestry.