I challenge Andrew Little, the Minister in the chair, on that point: how can he stand in this Chamber and say no pressure is applied? How can he stand in this Chamber and say that medical professionals are simply just doing their job? The select committee listened to only a very few submitters—160 submitters out of 25,000. The select committee didn't take the time to actually go through the submitters and listen to what is a substantial number of New Zealanders who brought forward concerns, who brought forward their views and their experiences to this issue, and were denied the opportunity to come to Parliament and to be able to speak to those submissions in front of the select committee. So I challenge the Minister on that point where he says that, and I challenge him to provide evidence as to what he bases his claim upon.