So for someone who goes for an ultrasound scan at 18 weeks, finds out it is a female fetus—and I'm specifically talking about the mentality that is there to prefer a male child over a female fetus—they then have around two weeks' time to access an abortion. I don't want to see that happening here in New Zealand. The argument that there is no evidence of such abortions happening here in New Zealand, in my view, is baseless, because we haven't gone out to collect that kind of evidence, so we don't have any evidence, and with this legislation it will become really easy for people to access a sex-selective abortion. So the numbers might increase, but it will be really hard for us to know if they have been because of this reason, because I don't think people will truthfully declare the reason for the abortion if they seek that abortion after their ultrasound scan at 18 weeks.