We need to go for growth. Growing cities are good things. Cities that grow reflect cities where people want to live, and I for one don't want to live in a city where growth doesn't happen and the city just stagnates and inertia takes over and populations age and stay the same. I don't want to live in a country where that happens, either. If you don't grow at the same time that your population grows, you end up in a situation like the Minister rightly talks about, where we have some of the most unaffordable housing in the developed world and we have 26,000 people who can't afford market rents and are waiting on the social housing wait list and we have 4,500 kids growing up in motels. I don't want to live in a country like that. The Minister is completely right—no one in this Parliament does. The question is how we solve that.