The other four to seven members of the board are appointed in agreement with the Minister of Finance, and we all know that's quite worrying. So we have this merger. There's no justification. Perhaps if this merger had been clearly set out as a modernisation and streamlining of services, we could have got behind it. And $340 million later—no justification—raid Radio New Zealand, TVNZ, who were doing pretty good jobs in different ways, seemed to be making a bit of money, now seems to be spending a lot. 