Dr JAMES McDOWALL (ACT): Thank you, Mr Chair. Just earlier today, the Minister talked up visa automation again and new systems, and how it's been so useful for Accredited Employer Work Visa applications. I'd like to know if he thought it was useful, given the Advanced Digital Employer-led Processing and Targeting programme wasn't actually doing automated lodgement so that immigration officers can do their jobs, leaving support officers having to manually complete lodgement for eventual assessments in ANS.