Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: Within any organisation the size of the New Zealand Police, there are going to be people with a wide variety of different views. I think that it's important that everybody, when it comes to issues around race, has the opportunity to reflect on their views, their own feelings, their own thoughts, and have the opportunity to consider how they might do things differently and how they might incorporate that into their practice. I think every organisation in the country is grappling with this and I think that that's a positive thing, whether it be our school system, whether it be our police, whether it be our health system, or whether it be large corporations who are also grappling with it. I think that those conversations can be incredibly positive.