Hon EUGENIE SAGE (Green): Staying with oceans, in terms of the negotiations that were happening with the United Nations on a global oceans treaty and the target of some countries of protecting 30 percent of the high seas by 2030, what position on that issue, of 30 percent protection of the high seas, did Aotearoa New Zealand take to the negotiations at the United Nations? Has New Zealand been encouraged or lobbied by other countries to join that call for 30 percent protection? Has the Government consulted with our Pacific neighbours, such as Palau, which supports the call? And if the Government doesn't support the 30 percent protection of the high seas, why not? And if the Government hasn't made a decision yet, what are the reasons for the delay and when can we expect a decision?