The second question is around tax and debt. We had the Minister of Finance banging on, as he always does, about the National Party having this horrendous goal of trying to get New Zealand's debt level—having a plan to get its debt level—under control over the next decade or so. Well, how terrible is that? What a terrible thing—the idea that a party in this Government might be so responsible that they might think that it makes sense to have a plan to get debt under control. Every day, every speech that Mr Robertson starts off with is about how New Zealand's in a great position to spend, spend, spend during this crisis because we came into it with low levels of debt. Well, why did we come into it with low levels of debt? Only because previous Governments have been disciplined with their spending and had got on top of the debt. The previous National Government had to borrow $50 billion to get through the global financial crisis and the Canterbury earthquakes. We did that because we wanted to support New Zealanders. Then we continued to be disciplined with our spending and got on top of it, and we can do it again. 