The interesting thing around the submissions that were received in the select committee was this: the victims advocate groups and the victims themselves—and you don't hear victims talked about much these days, do you? But, actually, victims should be at the centre of our criminal justice system. They all got up and spoke in support of the three-strikes legislation. They made very strong submissions in support of the three-strikes legislation, the victims themselves. The groups that spoke against it? Guess what! Lawyers—lawyers that go on to become judges and get a bit offended and a bit sensitive by the fact that they don't retain the full say, the full ability, to actually decide on the sentence.