So, when we confront this crisis with COVID and the lockdowns and the impact that it has had on the court systems, first I do want to acknowledge, like the Minister did—and I was pleased that he did—the hard work of the many people in the sector, who were doing their best in trying circumstances. That is right, and people have been working very hard, trying to make things work as best they can. But still the reality is that huge delays have opened up, and waiting times for delivering cases and getting justice and getting juries through, getting people back to pick up their lives after the calamitous events that often lead of court cases, is a real problem. So when I look at the whole COVID response from this Government, the $60 billion or however many billion dollars Grant Robertson has spent, and this Government has spent, in response to COVID—one of the highest per capita spends in the world, in terms of COVID response—when I look at all that and then I look at what's happened in justice, which is relatively little, in order to keep these things moving effectively, I don't think they've quite got the balance right; the classic example being, and the Minister was at great pains to point out, that nothing in this piece of legislation does anything to effect remote hearings and the use of audiovisual equipment in the courtroom.