Dr EMILY HENDERSON: Thirty years of academia, give me a chance. I've got a long history here. [Bell rung] Thank you. Thirty years of academia cannot be put to bed in five minutes. I say that to the Opposition. It may put the rest of you to bed, but not me. So my point is, and to quote the great Ellen, "I do have one." When we heard the experiences of those victims, back in the beginning of this process, the same pain that we hear from victims in a rape trial or in a sex trial was coming from them. That intense feeling of disenfranchisement and disempowerment in what was their experience. That intense feeling that they had walked into an arena where it should be, essentially, about their experience and their reality, and it was not. It was about them as tools of a system that was not focused on them at all. Therefore, it really struck me, the title you gave your bill, Ms Upston. Because rights for victims is almost a contradiction in terms in the adversarial system, as it has been traditionally conceived. Yet it is a real mark in the ground as to where you were going with that, and it is something where we see—you know, later this week, I hope we will be considering the Sexual Violence Legislation Bill. I see this bill as of a piece with the work that we will be doing on the Sexual Violence Legislation Bill. It is again about the place of and the respect given to victims or complainants in the process. It is about moving aside those two bullies, those two domineering people, the prosecutor and the defence, moving them aside and admitting into the frame that third person, the victim or complainant.