Now, the other issue is mandatory sentencing. I wasn't going to speak on this, but as Simon Bridges has raised this as an issue that he believes should sit within parts of the criminal law, I do think I should address this. There are no offences for which a court must impose a minimum mandatory sentence. The proposal for a mandatory minimum sentence is a significant departure from principles of sentencing in New Zealand, so that is except for the crime of murder. That is the only time when a mandatory minimum sentence is imposed. It is a significant departure. JustSpeak said this well in their submission to us. They said, "Mandatory minimum sentences necessarily increase incarceration—the human rights issues and overcrowding in the prison system in the United States of America, which pioneered … mandatory minimum sentence[ing], should be a salutary lesson to Aotearoa New Zealand.", which I completely agree with. The Howard League also echoed that to us in their submissions, as well. 