How does the Minister explain that that money will, in his words, come in a different form? It won't. There will be a loss to the New Zealand economy. If he says that there is no loss to the New Zealand economy, I would love to hear it. Now, the only answer I think he can give is his fanciful thing about "This is all part of 'Brand New Zealand'" and that we get more return from it from that. That might be his answer, but that will be lovely to see, because he can't even get a free-trade agreement in Europe for dairy. He actually took that out of the agreement. 