In clause 5(2), "(b) assisting an individual who is undergoing, or considering undergoing, a gender transition; or (c) assisting an individual to express their gender identity; or (d) providing acceptance, support, or understanding of an individual; or (e) facilitating the individual's coping skills, development, or identity exploration, or facilitating social support for the individual;" are all carved out in the bill as it stands as things that are not a conversion practice. Again, I think that goes to give confidence to some people who may have concerns—and certainly there were submissions to that end—that those conversations can happen and they can happen in an open and respectful way to assist people who are going through these issues and who need support, and who will be safe to do so in the knowledge that this bill carves out that for them in a space in order for them to do that.