And one of the best things about having those car manufacturers come online is that I was able to talk some of them through about some of the concerns about what the second-hand car market looks like—how does affordability feature in your grand plan? I'm no dodgy car sales rep, but I can tell you this: that many are excited, many do want to create a second-hand affordable market where they can sell these vehicles to those who don't have a lot but still want to continue using a car. Many are also supportive of this Government's plight to see mode shift, to see us say, "Hey, not only will you consider using this type of vehicle, but looking at other modes such as using public transport." You only need to go outside, probably not tonight, but on any other day, and you will see a Metlink council-run bus service where it's an electric vehicle of some sort, and that has taken off across the metro fleets in New Zealand.