I actually agreed with some of the reasoning of New Zealand First at the time. They observed that the forest industry had suffered quite a lot of uncertainty in the prior years, caused in part by some rapid changes to the price of carbon, which at times discouraged and then encouraged deforestation. Because the price of carbon—when it dropped to $2 a tonne—saw lots of people chopping down their forests at a time when they could do it very cheaply, including through purchasing if they wanted to. Ukrainian hot air units that were admissible at the time into the New Zealand emissions trading scheme. 