Hon DAVID BENNETT: We support agriculture, and Māori in agriculture are one of the strongest ones there, Willie Jackson, so we do support them. So that is an important part of the future of New Zealand as well. So it's about employing people and taking that chance on their business, which actually means that they employ a lot of downstream people as well. Now, it's those people in manufacturing and those people in the service industries that are all directly as a result of the farmers' efforts. 