So what was the counterfactual? An honest Government that didn't mess with the Reserve Bank, that didn't mess with interest rates, that faced the real cost and was honest with the people. But here's the other counterfactual, is that people would have looked at what this Government was up to and said, "The real cost of this borrowing will go on for generations. The real cost of this borrowing will be inflation. The real cost of this borrowing will show up at the checkout, at the petrol pump, and my rent, and everything else I buy for years to come. And I'm not so sure that Labour's doing such a good job." Those are the facts. 