Because my strong view is that this place is an in-present place, a tactile place, somewhere where we do have to debate and duke it out. So what we are passing here as a sessional order is the opportunity for remote participation, not the opportunity for a virtual Parliament, and that's where I differed a little bit in Chris Hipkins' predictions of the future. This sits alongside the COVID-19Protection Framework criteria that the Speaker of the House has put in place for how we can operate under the various colour systems. Even at red we are able to operate with a maximum of 60 members in this House, and what I envisage is that when this is needed we will still have that and the ability of people, as Mr Hipkins says, sometimes in particular geographical locations able to participate remotely. I hope we don't get to the point where we have a very small number of people in this House and the majority participating remotely. I think that would be a problem. I certainly am not signalling that we wouldn't agree to it, because what we don't know is what we don't know, and we have, I think, by and large, worked quite nimbly to make sure that democracy still happens.