SIMEON BROWN: As Matt King said, that is simple politics. This is a member's bill, and I would encourage members on the other side of the House to put the bill through to select committee so that the public can have their say, so that victims can have their say, so that people can come forward and tell their stories to the select committee. And if there are particular points of law, which they seem to allude to, around minimum sentences and maximum sentences, which seem to be quite complicated for them, well, put it to the committee so the committee can hear the evidence. I say this to New Zealand First: put this bill to select committee so that New Zealanders can have their say on this piece of legislation. Because voting down this piece of legislation is saying to people like Ana, whose partner died after a single punch in August of 2017, that this Parliament doesn't care, that this Parliament is not going to provide justice, that this Parliament is not going to be providing a solution whereby those people can be held to account.