The second point I'd raise is that I have grave concerns for two separate health systems. And I agree with the leader who calls it "separatist" when describing two separate health systems: one with a veto—a Māori health authority—and then, Health New Zealand. Spilling out of that, then, are the questions: what is the cost of setting up a Māori health authority? How much funding will a Māori health authority receive? And I say that in the context of officials who stood on stage last weekend and said that the funding would be "modest"—modest. So I'm wondering if he has a sense as to what funding the Māori Health Authority might receive.