I think you could apply the same with mental health, especially when we know that, for people with lifelong mental health illness, 50 percent of them first present before the age of 14; 75 percent of them first present before the age of 24. Yet the average age of their first presentation is late-20s, early-30s. So we know there's about a 10-year gap where we don't capture people, and actually taking an approach that would actually be also data driven would be ensuring that all our services are feeding in the data at an anonymous level so that we can build that evidence base. And where we would disagree with the Minister around the term "evidence" is that evidence only points to where the evidence is at the moment, and that comes back to my original point—that we should actually be growing the evidence base. That's why, in my Supplementary Order Paper, it talks about the mental health commission, in clause 11(1)(d), "to promote alignment and collaboration in research undertaken in respect of the effectiveness of approaches to mental health and wellbeing, including identifying gaps in the evidence base and promoting research to address those gaps".