In answer to my friend Mr Penk, I am so looking forward to the innovative, forward-thinking National Party members who are going to support the continuing good things that we are going to want to do to ensure access to justice in the future. Although, having dealt with three National Ministers of Justice when I was trying to get those things done, including audiovisual links, and not having made any difference until we had Andrew Little and that lady over there on the Green benches [Member indicates to Jan Logie], I have my doubts. I commend this bill to the House.