The other matter that has been debated as this bill has progressed under urgency tonight is that concept of making work pay. What we on this side of the House have said is "Yes, let's make these threshold adjustments. Let's make sure there are those gaps. Let's acknowledge that actually supporting people's incomes, supporting their choice to be working, supporting them to have dignity in that and to have enough income for their families is a good thing." In doing all of that, let's also acknowledge—and I'm sure members opposite would agree with this concept—that, yes, it's one thing to lift benefits, and we acknowledge that for families on benefits it is tough. It is very tough. But I wager that, if you were to say to a typical family on a benefit, "What would you prefer: an increase to your benefit or a good-paying job?", the answer would be, nine times out of 10—maybe 99 times out of 100—"I want a good-paying job, and I want the independence that comes with that. I want the dignity that comes with that. I want the aspiration that comes with that." 