Hon JUDITH COLLINS: —in the year of delivery, under the current Government. How many of these 1,600 extra—I think we've now got about 10,000 gang members in New Zealand, something like that? About as many as we have cells for them. About 10,000 people are not going to voluntarily put their hands up to owning firearms that they've stolen or they've bought on the black market or they've come by in some other way. They're not going to do that. It's going to be Joe and Janet Farmer who are going to tell the police which firearms they've got. And what we know is that registers—electronic registers, hardcopy registers; though this would be electronic—can be hacked, can be accessed by people who are criminals, who are involved in organised crime, and who will have then a list of the law-abiding people who have firearms, and what firearms they have. And that is, I think, a problem.