So my question to the Minister, and I think I might know the answer but I think it would nevertheless be useful for the Hansard to record his answer—his views are more persuasive than mine, as the member and indeed the Minister putting it forward, and whose intentions are going to need to be understood by courts and applicants and so on. Is it intended that those individuals that have control of a relevant overseas person, if that person is a trust, if we're talking about beneficial ownership as well as legal ownership. Because, of course, what we don't want to have is a scenario where New Zealand - based individuals; perhaps lawyers, accountants, or other such persons—I'll choose my words carefully as a former lawyer myself—if such persons might have control of a relevant overseas person or trust on behalf of those who are to all intents and purposes overseas persons.