Hon CARMEL SEPULONI: I watched the House yesterday to see what was asked here—some very good answers given on my behalf. But I will point out that the member who was asking the question was saying that there were 110,000 people on jobseeker who have been on long term. I need to remind that member that about 70,000 to 80,000 of those who are on jobseeker benefit actually have a health condition or disability of some sort. Absolutely there are jobs available at the moment—absolutely. MSD is working hard to get people into those jobs but we do need to recognise that there are a range of New Zealanders that have health conditions or disabilities that make it really hard for them to take up employment. I encourage the member to watch Sunday this coming week, when they interview three people with neurodiverse conditions and they get to talk about why it is so hard for them to be able to gain employment.