I heard Mr Woodhouse contribute to the debate on debt. There were some comments there about spending and so on—the usual tired refrains from an Opposition that seems not to have any ideas of its own—and I would like to point out to this House that the net debt that we are projected to have as a country is likely to be at the level that many other countries would like to have started the COVID period at. Relative to those other countries in the OECD that we like to compare ourselves to, we will be keeping debt much lower through the COVID period, and that's due to the careful stewardship of the Hon Grant Robertson as Minister of Finance. 