Hon CARMEL SEPULONI: It's a relief that we have some data on disabled children in the recent statistics that have been released. The disability community have been asking for this for quite some time. So it's the first time that we've been presented with this type of information. I don't think it comes as a surprise to many of us. Anecdotally, in our own communities, we see that disabled children are often disproportionately impacted by poverty. I think we also need to take into consideration that ethnicity and disability information in this instance aren't necessarily mutually exclusive as well, given that Māori and Pasifika have a younger profile, and therefore a younger disability profile as well. So there is more to do here, and the starting point is actually having the evidence and the data that we've been missing for so long.