It was interesting in the weekend, when I had a very robust conversation with representatives of the sector, many of them were saying, "We want to be like kindergartens. We want the same funding as kindergartens." When asked if they wanted the same conditions as kindergartens, there was less appetite for that particular discussion. So, I guess, the point I would make is: Government is not telling these centres how to operate their businesses; ultimately, we are giving them the option of additional funding, and we're saying that if they want to take up that option of additional funding, the condition will be that that funding flows through into better pay for their teachers. Those centres have been reporting now, for several years—as a result of the nine years that National was in Government, where early childhood education service funding was frozen—that they have been having difficulty recruiting and retaining teachers because they cannot afford to pay them sufficiently or pay them a competitive salary. So we want to step towards pay parity with kindergartens so that they can recruit and retain teachers. The gap between what they have now and what they will need to get to parity would not be as big if the funding had not been frozen for the nine years that National was in Government.