I talk to New Zealanders all the time. I talk to builders—my brother's a builder. He bought a second-hand EV van for his building business before the discount, so he was gutted that he missed out on that, but I talked to other builders who say they want those options, and these policies are ultimately necessary for them to have these options, because every other country in the world is acting on this, and if New Zealand doesn't, we will become the dumping ground for the most polluting, inefficient vehicles, which means that New Zealand businesses and households will be spending more money to do their business and we'll have higher emissions, which is a really bad outcome. So I really do struggle with the Opposition's arguments on this.