Hon DAVID PARKER (Minister of Revenue): At the intersection between work and benefit, there are always a small number of people whose circumstances are close to identical, whether they're in work or on a benefit. That's long been the case, and it's a difficult area of intersection, because we want to maintain incentives to work. We also know that the amounts that are in issue when there is any change to benefits in terms of effect on the minimum family tax credit, they're always very small. And people who are higher earners might sometimes think, "Gee, there's not much in this.", but it does matter. It's a matter of principle, and $500 for someone in that situation can be significant, or is significant, and is important to them. The member is correct, though, that if someone was earning for their hours of work less than $31,096 and earned a little more, then the payment to take them up to that minimum level of income that's effectively provided through the minimum family tax credit would mean that they would be no better off.