But here's the next thing: this is not only about gangs; it's also about guns. This Parliament, shamefully, with the exception of one member, I might add, rushed through knee-jerk legislation in the wake of our nation's tragedy in Christchurch, that would rate objectively as one of the least effective policies the Parliament has ever passed. Unfortunately, they banned a quarter of a million semi-automatic firearms, and they collected, in their so-called buy-back, around 60,000. So there's 180,000 still out there, and the gangs have openly said, "We will not be retuning ours." And it's difficult to believe that due to that Government's rushed, incoherent, knee-jerk response to a tragedy, a lot of those firearms that were banned but somehow didn't appear at the buy-back—75 percent of them, actually—have ended up in the shootouts by gangs up and down this country.