The important thing for me is the Māori knowledge about the Matariki cluster. Yes, it is true that in Northland Puanga is the sign of the Māori New Year, that is, at the time of Ōturu, but there are as well the stories regarding Matariki at around the time of Tangaroa in the month of June. Therefore, the knowledge about the lunar calendar connects to the land, to the sea, to the dead and the desires for the following year. Yes, what Debbie said was correct about the difference in observing the new year at the beginning of the year in summer, because according to the lunar calendar there is much to do in the garden at that time—plants are grown to be harvested later, just before Matariki. And so, there is still a lot for us to learn about all this knowledge so that we can follow it.