I do take exception to the comments from the former member for Whangārei. Cyber-security modernisation, as is proposed by this Government, does ensure cyber-security. It gets you away from multiple out-of-date systems with their pattern of patches, and many of them no longer capable of being updated by their supplier. Funding for information technology in the health system has been neglected, as part of the National Government's overall neglect of capital expenditure. In two years, there was absolutely no money spent on capital infrastructure in the entire health system. I worked in that health system, I remember exactly what it is like. Modern systems to look after vulnerable New Zealanders were not prioritised, and we have now put over $5 billion into capital expenditure in the health system.