Hon MICHAEL WOOD: In the first instance, the member needs to be aware that 64 percent of the utes purchased in New Zealand will not be impacted by the Clean Car Discount scheme, because they're bought and sold on the second-hand market to which fees and discounts do not apply. Secondly, in discussion with the MIA, I've confirmed that at least one manufacturer has the expectation that they will be bringing in an electric vehicle within the next 12 to 24 months and that others are working hard on doing exactly the same thing.