Hon EUGENIE SAGE: If the member read the Himalayan Tahr Control Plan, she would see that it recognises the value of recreational and commercial hunting. However those hunters have failed to get tahr numbers down to the level that the plan provides for—an upper limit of 10,000 animals. That is why official control is needed, and I'm disappointed that the National Party—and that member—is turning its back on national parks as a safe haven for our indigenous plants and wildlife.