The issue about standing as candidates in election: if the members can produce to me evidence of the last time either a remand prisoner or a sentenced prisoner was nominated to be a candidate in an election, let's hear the evidence. But, otherwise, let's not make up fantasies as somehow being a compelling argument about the bill before the House. The rest of us live in the real world. The rest of us live in the practical world—the world that everybody else lives in and makes their judgments by. The reality is there are not many prisoners sitting there thinking, "Right, how am I going to increase my voters in the next election? I'll talk to members of the Labour Party because they're so good at it."—which is why we're in the situation that we're in at the moment. They're not doing that. Most of them, as we know, are probably National Party voters, because we know they're self-interested, greedy, and they do all those sorts of things. They're probably going to look to the National Party for advice. But the reality is they are not lining up to be candidates in elections. This is about the right to vote—restoring the right to vote to a bunch of people who had it unceremoniously taken off them by the National Party in 2010. This is the right thing to do.