Here's why I say that: five years ago, there were, in January 2017, 1,844 staff at Immigration New Zealand. Now, there are 1,980 staff. And we shouldn't be surprised at that; Government departments have grown all over the place under Labour. Only here's the thing: from 2017 to 2022, in the major categories of student, visitor, work, and resident visas, they are processing nearly a half-a-million fewer visa applications. So they've got more people taking longer to process fewer visas. And that is a system that is on the rocks.