As a number of people have mentioned this evening, while it is the care workers themselves who are deeply, gravely impacted by this and it is them and their needs and their welfare that we must hold to the fore as the most important issues that we must deal with, they in turn also impact the public, those who need to be cared for. Everybody's got a personal story. Myself, I have a 91-year-old grandmother, who just recently suffered one too many falls. She can no longer live independently. So whilst the family waits to get her into a cared-living arrangement, she's sitting in the Hastings hospital. She's been there for three weeks. She's taking up a bed that someone from the public who's really sick could use, all because the aged residential care cannot provide the staffing to care for her. That is just one example. 