In speaking to the two bills now, originally presented as one, now divided, quite depictive and representative actually of the Government stance that has been taken in terms of the divisiveness that has been created by this bill now divided into two parts: Oversight of Oranga Tamariki System Bill and the Children and Young People's Commission Bill. I say that this depicts the fact that one bill divided into two is representative of how this Government has dismissed, dispensed with, and treated not only the submitters to the bill but public opinion. There's a sense of divide, conquer, and this is a done deal, as I've always stated, where the Government went through the pretence and the facade of consulting and engaging with our public.