On transport: now, there's no question that New Zealand has one of the highest car ownership rates in the developed world. That is not a good thing. That does not make us better off. It's a huge cost burden on our society. We import all of our cars and all of the fuel to run them, unless they're electric, and it's a huge cost. If we can do the same amount of getting around our communities and around our country, with fewer private cars, with fewer trucks, with less oil, that is a direct productivity gain to New Zealand.