In terms of the deed of settlement, as Minister Little mentioned before, it was a beautiful, sunny day, and we were all out in a little place called Tarata, which is in inland Taranaki, where the deed of settlement was due to be signed. There had been over 650 people who had been invited to that event, and because of the COVID situation at that time, which was nearly a year ago now, it was attended by probably only about 30 or 40 people, I'd say. It was really only the people who had been doing the negotiation, the Minister, and a few of us from Parliament, and I did feel for Ngāti Maru at that time, because they'd been in the process of putting up a new marae and we couldn't use it to its full extent. 