In fact, if we go all the way back to 2017, when we had a National Party Minister for Social Development, the Hon Anne Tolley, their Parliament's social policy evaluation and research unit found sole parents in particular found themselves back on a benefit within two years of being obligated to take up work because of this sanction. What this shows is that this policy is not rooted in evidence. It shows that it's rooted in arbitrary prejudices about people on the benefit. It shows the disconnect from this House about the lived experience of people on the benefit, and it's disappointing to hear people who have firsthand experience of being on low incomes talk about it in this way when the truth is that people on the benefit are struggling to make ends meet and doing more work than many of us in this House, I would reckon. It's a shame that this House is being co-opted by a neo-liberal ideology that takes away people's right to dignity and it takes away the dignity of caregiving itself. 