Hon SIMON BRIDGES: middle-aged—no, no, that's the member for Wairarapa; he shouldn't be so hard on himself!—white men who get their law degree, and then suddenly they're away and they're counsel for the child. There is no ongoing education. There is no sense of understanding of child development and all of these things that are so important, and would be important for someone when dealing with a child in the most traumatic experience they've ever seen or had: the separation of their parents. As one expert—I think it was the Law Society—said to us, only the bad stuff comes before the court. Right? You are not dealing with functionality; it is only dysfunction, ultimately, that ends up in these court cases, and we are leaving it to lawyers and not the real experts.