But none of their success to date has relied on co-governance or getting preferential treatment, and I'm assuming that the leadership of an organisation as successful, and having the mana of, as Ngāi Tahu would bristle at the suggestion that their success is due to special treatment. I think they would reject that. I can't speak for them, but I've met some of them and I think they would say "We did it on our own, based on our own efforts. We didn't need this kind of support." That's why it's so hard to understand the motivations of the member Rino Tirikatene and his Labour Party colleagues in bringing this bill to the House. It's another example of Labour MPs and the Labour Government failing to understand what good governance and democracy entails. That is, being able to elect the people who have decision making over your property rights and over our collective national resources that we all have a common interest in—to be able to elect people who make decisions about those things. 