Consummate—consummate—conservatives. But the fundamental conservative—with a little "c"—Nicola Grigg would say, "Not now. Let's not do anything right now. Let's not improve our police vetting. Let's not improve the quality of our education." But I can't blame her—she hasn't been in education for years and years. Penny Simmonds, however, should know a lot better. We all know she can read, but to spend 10 minutes reading her speech and continually harp on about Southern Institute of Technology, which isn't even affected by this—it would be great to have some engagement from the Opposition with ideas. It would be good to have a proposition from the Opposition, rather than a do-nothing Opposition who says, "Not now. Too early. Let's sit on our hands."