So I say to the Minister that, actually, as he talks about moving away from support for everybody to more targeted support, we need to stop talking about the landlords as if they are bad people. We heard from Reg Hennessy in Rotorua that all the landlords he knows in Rotorua are individuals—perhaps a couple who have invested and they own a property that is rented out and the business they've rented it to is struggling because of the lockdown. These aren't big companies that own a lot of properties; these are people who have invested their life savings and they need support as much as the workers have had support—these small businesses need support. It is direct financial cash support that's needed, not things through their tax that eventually might happen; it's not about depreciation, which will help some, but for today it won't do anything because the banks are not lending in the way that we hoped that they would. There is a cash-flow problem coming, and for the landlords, actually, nothing has been done except for some demonising and people saying that they're not doing everything that they can.