But what the minimum family tax credit at its core fails to recognise is that our caregivers who are on the benefit who may not be in paid employment also deserve to have livable incomes, also deserve to live with dignity. I do not believe that we should be pitting our unemployed whānau who are doing massively important labour in our communities, who are doing caregiving, who are doing volunteering—I do not think that we should be saying that they deserve less income than those who are in paid employment. 