I heard that there was a lot of talk about the National Party's 2020 policy on the first thousand days. There is nothing inconsistent with our stance on this amendment and the first thousand days, wanting to see the first thousand days of a child's life be a really important and supported part of their life. Of course, we want to see the wraparound support to ensure that a mother or the caregiver can get out and retrain and put themselves on a pathway to employment, as well as supporting them to be able to look after their child, as well as ensuring that good early childhood centres are available for them to put their child into, and as well as promoting the self-determination of that family to do good for themselves; not to be constantly looking at the State to look after them.