Hon ANDREW LITTLE: I don't think the House can rely on that member's quoting of the thing. The reality is that we have had a ministry that has been tasked for the last two years to do an extraordinary range of things, not only to keep the health system running and monitoring it and doing its own commissioning and a whole bunch of operational activities but also to lead and manage our response to the COVID pandemic. That has put a lot of strain on everybody, and I think they can be forgiven for not being absolutely perfect in absolutely everything. But they've done a tremendous job in keeping New Zealanders safe and thousands of New Zealanders alive.