PENNY SIMMONDS (National—Invercargill): Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise to speak in opposition to the Education and Training (Teaching Council Fees, Levies, and Costs) Amendment Bill. I first heard about this during the election campaign last year, and my colleague across the way Dr Liz Craig and I were at a teachers' forum and this was brought up, and that was the first I had heard about it, but I've certainly heard plenty since then. I'm interested that the member who has just sat down, Ibrahim Omer, feels that the 1,033 submitters to this amendment have had everything they said heard and responded to, because that's exactly not what I consider happened in this process.