Hon PAUL GOLDSMITH (National): Sorry to prolong the debate! Happy to speak on the Conversion Practices Prohibition Legislation Bill. As has been well-traversed, the National Party has treated this as a conscience vote. I've recently become the justice spokesperson, and so have taken a particular interest in this as an issue affecting the laws of the land. And I want to say at the outset, I will be supporting this bill personally. I don't support conversion practices or the attempt to change the sexuality of people, particularly in any coercive way, and there's no question that there's been much damage done to many people over the years through such attempts. Some of them are driven by hate and dogma, as the previous Minister talked about; some of them, no doubt, with good intentions badly carried out. So I'm very pleased and prepared to support this.