Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: The member needs to think carefully through what he's saying there, and, in fact, if he wants to quote Michael Baker, as he did earlier, he could look at one of Michael Baker's statements earlier today, which is that when those spaces are freed up in MIQ, when we do get ourselves to a safe travel zone, we will have higher-risk travellers who will be in New Zealand at that point, and Mr Baker is actually concerned about the availability of space at that point.