Hon DAVID BENNETT (National—Hamilton East): Thank you, Madam Chair. I take offence at some of the comments that the Minister has made around the National Party and our approach to the emissions trading scheme. It's just simply not the case that the National Party puts it off and just sees it as a cost. We are here in this House working with the Green Party on many environmental bills—in the past, when we were in Government and in Opposition. We don't see it as a cost. We see that there is a lot of competitive advantage too, as our country transitions and that. So don't get us wrong: we're not just trying to put it in that cost element. That's the deflection the left always puts on the right to say, "Well, that's why you're not interested in these things." That's not actually—