So you have to ask yourself what's the alternative approach that Grant Robertson is suggesting, and we had this hackneyed response today—actually quite intellectually moribund—in which he tried to hoodwink New Zealanders into believing that the choice they face is between having some relief in their material circumstances and having some tax reduction, but the only way that that can be achieved, according to Grant Robertson, is through a slash-and-burn of the health and education systems. I find this despicable, because Grant Robertson knows that these tax reductions that we propose can be achieved and still maintain every dollar that's being spent in New Zealand right now. 