Hon ANDREW LITTLE: Two points on that. Once upon a time, 20 or so years ago, all student nurses spent most of their time working in a hospital—that's how we trained our nurses. We spend more time training nurses in polytechs now, but, actually, the critical element of their learning is to spend time in a hospital while they qualify to get their registration. The second point is, and I've made it clear, if anybody is employed in a hospital to do the work of a healthcare assistant, and we have many of them in our hospital system, they should be paid as a healthcare assistant.