BARBARA KURIGER (National—Taranaki - King Country): Thank you, Madam Chair. In November 2019, the Minister received advice from the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment (MBIE) on a potential pumped hydro scheme. The advice received some quotes that read as if they were from Yes, Minister rather than MBIE—quotes like "The future value of pump storage is unclear. This is not a small or trivial project." While the scheme's economics may look appealing on paper, the ministry stated, "A scheme like Onslow is a high-cost, long-term solution to dry-year storage and lowering emissions. While no detailed planning has taken place, it is not impossible that designed and constructed a large earth dam could take 10 years."