Hon TIM MACINDOE (National—Hamilton West): Thank you, Madam Speaker. At the outset, could I acknowledge the Minister of Education for the way in which he conducted his part of the committee stage debate which immediately preceded this. I think it is one of the great innovations that we've seen of recent times. We didn't necessarily agree with all of his answers, but he engaged regularly, and I think that, as I say, deserves to be acknowledged. And he did make some compelling points.