JAN LOGIE (Green): Thank you, Madam Chair. And I firstly want to acknowledge the Minister in the chair for the work that is progressing, and acknowledge him for starting off by talking about and contextualising the work in this long history where whānau have not been supported by our State, and children have been taken from whānau and put into harm. And we have hurt children and we have hurt families as a country, and that's a brutal reality, and generations of that—and some of the stories that we're hearing through the royal commission of the lifelong impacts of that. And when we hear some of the vilification of gang members from some of the members of the Opposition, disconnected to that history, many, many of those people, actually, were taken into gangs out of a sense of trying to bring family together to protect themselves after a history of abuse in care. We have to take some responsibility as a country for that reality and hold that in context.