Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: What this Government will do is continue the balanced approach that we've had of making sure that we keep debt low compared to other countries around the world; that we invest heavily in the things that those New Zealanders rely on, such as a strong public health system, good quality schools, and making sure we have good quality transport networks right around New Zealand. And what we won't do is claim that we're going to be able to reduce debt at the same time as promising massive increases. I'm struggling to keep up at the moment with the member's party's promises but, as far as I can tell, it means more spending in areas like mental health, in defence, in transport, but, at the same time, promising to cut taxes and lower debt—it's the Bermuda Triangle that National is still trapped in.