JO LUXTON: Now, as a mother of three children, it is innate for me to want to protect them. Mr Brown, you said you wanted to know what it was about. You need to listen instead of hooha-ing across the House. I want my children to go out and explore the world. I want them to attend university and other learning institutions. But I want to know they are as safe as possible while they do so. I can't tag along to uni with them, so, as parents, we put a lot of trust in those places—that they will do all that they can to keep our children safe, and that means minimising the risk of mental harm, minimising the risk of physical harm, which they are obliged to do under the Health and Safety at Work Act 2015. This proposed piece of legislation takes that away. How could I, in all good conscience, agree to a bill that potentially increases the risk of harm not only to my children but to young people all around New Zealand?