ERICA STANFORD (National—East Coast Bays): Thank you, Mr Chair. I want to just get the Minister to elaborate on some of his answers just then, because it sounds like the tourism industry is going to be 100 percent relying on working holiday visas. There seems to be no other option. And, as the Minister has already pointed to, only 5,000 have been granted. Only 400 or so have actually arrived in the country. And I note that the Minister just said that he hopes more arrive. Well, that's very nice, but pinning our tourism recovery on the hopes of the Minister probably isn't the best response. 