At the risk of stating the obvious, other rights are also curtailed in the fact of incarceration, most obviously, freedom of movement and to some extent those such as freedom of speech, and so on. So the question for the House, in considering the bill, is not whether or not it is appropriate to reduce the rights of those who have been incarcerated under the Crimes Act but whether or not such a reduction of rights is appropriate. I submit that to do that we need to consider both the type and nature of the reduction of the rights, and, of course, also, the extent, to test the reasonableness of what is being proposed.