I want to summarise where I've come to in terms of being a Government member on this particular bill. The other submitter I want to draw the House's attention to is the Howard League, who we all know do some amazing work in our prisons with prisoners, to help them in their reintegration. Their written submission to the select committee said, "We do not support this Bill. We believe that New Zealand cannot continue to invest in what may, in practice, amount to systemic vindictiveness. Our prisons are a glaringly dysfunctional foundation to our criminal justice system and continue to be moral and fiscal failures. Passing this bill will be an ill-placed step [forward]." 