Then I asked the Minister, "Well, you know, what happens for people who are currently at the old threshold earning, say, $30,000 or $30,600 and if they get offered extra hours or a small pay increase that would increase their income up to $31,000?" Well, the answer is they will get no extra benefit from their extra work, because their incomes now are going to be topped up to $31,096 anyway. Not necessarily a reason not to do it or to be against it, but it's a really interesting discussion because it shows that one of the impacts of the welfare system that we have is that a lot of people find themselves in positions where, actually, the effect of doing more work is that they are very little better off.