Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: I think that betrays the complete lack of understanding of the complexity of the issue of climate change. If the member doesn't understand that climate change is going to mean that New Zealanders need to change jobs, move into high-wage jobs, be supported to do that through an education system—that New Zealanders might actually lose their jobs through climate change and be supported by an income insurance scheme, it just shows how out of touch the National Party is on the significance of this issue.