So if you've got a dirty gas-guzzler and you know, at the moment, you're going to be charged a tax to replace that ute, and you've got no other choice, then you're going to sit on that gas-guzzler for longer. Why not give that farmer or tradie an incentive to shift? But that's not what they are looking at. This is not pragmatic; we've clearly outlined, under Part 1, new sections 167B and 167A in clause 5—there is a pragmatic approach where some New Zealanders could get a carve-out because they do not have choice.