However, I notice, when doing a bit of research on this, that there are concerns from the sector, from responsible businesses, about some of these consequences. And I noticed that Energy Resources Aotearoa have said new commissioning rules for natural gas- and oilfields have good intention but require careful work to avoid unintended consequences. Well, actually we want to hear from them to know what those might be, to ensure that's not the case. One of the earlier speakers in the debate said that, as we transition away from using carbon energy, this becomes important. Well, actually, irrespective of that, it's important to get it right. There have been very few cases where companies have not met their obligation when they have needed to decommission, and if indeed this is about when a responsibility or liability is passed from one party to another party through investment or sale, the responsibility should rest with the new owner of the permit, not the last one.