So the detail of this has been traversed in the House—simply to say, in commending this bill to the House, I acknowledge Oranga Tamariki for the work that is done there, all the social workers, and the challenges that they're confronted with on a daily basis, but also to those who nurture and provide for our children in the communities, the whānau, the extended families. Always as a lawyer advocating for the children, the paramountcy principle, as it's known, the welfare and the best interests of the children was often forgotten by the State when it came to providing sufficiently to ensure that their needs and their means were met so that the caregivers could do that.