Then there's energy and resources. This Government seems to be determined to stop New Zealanders extracting natural resources—unless they do it in Australia. The announcement that the oil and gas exploration will be banned will not reduce carbon emissions, but it sends a signal. No papers, no consultation, not even a Cabinet process—just "We're at the podium"-ocracy and "We're going to do it from the podium". That sends a signal to the world about what sort of place New Zealand is to invest. So much of our valuable minerals lie tied up in the Department of Conservation estate—areas of no conservation value, that could be extracted—while DOC itself is short of revenue to conserve the parts of its estate that it should be conserving. It's nuts. As for getting permission from the Environmental Protection Authority for relatively straightforward projects, forget it. Go try your luck in Australia.