Also, following up on the benefit sanctions conversation, I'm really pleased to hear that the Minister shares my concerns and that we seem to be on the same page. But considering that she agrees the sanction isn't great and that it's harming people, and that, during the period we reviewed, over 75 percent of the people sanctioned were Māori, I just wondered if she could elaborate why no work has been done to remove that specific sanction, despite her party being in opposition to it since 2013, and the Welfare Expert Advisory Group being very clear that it needed to go since 2018.