This is the problem with the ideologically pure and driven Greens who have pushed this through with the support of New Zealand First and the Labour Party. They are going to hurt New Zealand businesses at a time when they can very least afford to be hurt even more. What we've had now is the greatest number of job losses ever being recorded in New Zealand: 40,000 job losses in the last month alone. New Zealand businesses are hurting, and what does this bill do? Well, it puts a price higher on carbon than has previously been the case. There is already an impact on New Zealanders' wallets and their back pockets in a way that could not be worse at this time right now. So what we find is that this bill, amongst other things—and it's a big bill, it runs to 300-odd pages, it's a very complicated bill with many moving parts, all sorts of detail in it, and much of it will be unfamiliar and unfathomable to many New Zealanders. But the bottom line is, as the Minister says, it puts a price on pollution, and that, of itself, is not a bad thing. It's just a question of timing.