The other issue that's being canvassed is: where will we get the low-sulphur fuel from? So if it's a refinery in Singapore that may well be the case. We know the New Zealand refining company is exploring options to a transition—an unjust transition, no doubt—from a refining operation with the loss of hundreds of high-paid jobs to simply a storage tank facility. And I'm sure that our comrades on the other side of the House would be happy to go and have a conversation, a conversation with the workers in Northland, those highly paid workers who are facing the loss of their jobs and being nothing more but pump operators at an onshore storage facility, not to mention the lack of economic resilience that that induces. So if we are going to transition to low-sulphur fuels for marine use, the New Zealand Government has a potential role to play in evaluating what volume that is, if there's a public good, the balance of public versus private good, and why this entire cost should be imposed on an industry that internationally has demonstrated they're very successfully migrating to a low-sulphur fuel for marine use. 