PENNY SIMMONDS (National—Invercargill): Well, you have to admire the previous speaker Tracey McLellan's optimism—like lambs to the slaughter. I rise to speak in opposition of the Pae Ora (Healthy Futures) Bill. I spoke earlier today about the review of the vocational education sector, and you might say—and I'm sure Dr Webb will say—"Why is that relevant to the disestablishment of the DHBs and the setup of Health New Zealand and the Māori Health Authority?" It is relevant because it is an absolute prelude to what we are going to see in the health sector, and because actions speak much louder than words.