Hon TODD McCLAY (National—Rotorua): Thank you, Mr Chair. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough earlier. Treasury has estimated that 92,000 New Zealanders will lose their jobs in the tourism sector as a result of COVID-19. You, Minister, have gone to your colleagues and asked for $400 million to support tourism. I'm asking you directly what advice you sought or received of the 92,000 New Zealanders that Treasury have forecast will be made unemployed in the tourism sector. How many will be saved as a result of the $400 million? If the answer is "I didn't ask." or "They didn't tell me.", then the tourism sector deserves to know that. But, Minister, for $400 million to be committed to be spent and for you to say it's hard to know how many jobs will be saved, which is the same as saying, "I don't know.", frankly, is not good enough for the tourism sector—those 92,000 people who are to be made unemployed—and it's not good enough for the taxpayer.