SIMON WATTS: —particularly in the mighty Waikato, no doubt, the Hon Michael Woodhouse and maybe a few down in Dunedin, I'm sure!—they'll be thinking "Well, crikey, what are the processes and systems that they're going to put in play here?" and it's going to be "Geez, this sounds complex." I think that's a reality, which is going to be: how are you going to get that balance in terms of that register, as it says, that due diligence process, trying to be able to record the source of where these timber products have come from, be able to see that audit and flow through from source to once they actually land in New Zealand. And I guess the substantiation process around actually being able to evidence and substantiate the documentation around timber products that are being imported into New Zealand actually is legitimate, because that's a big issue. 