The big statistic that I want to leave the committee with before I finish my contribution is that 22 abortions happen for children under the age of 15 years. For 62 fifteen-year-olds in New Zealand in 2018, 74 percent of those children had parents involved in the decision about whether to have an abortion. And this is the cracker, everybody: in 25 percent, the father of the baby that has been aborted is the child's father. So we're actually talking about incest. 