On the funding issues, as I understand it, the offer that has been made to aged residential care in terms of the funding agreements they have currently with DHBs, eventually with Health NZ, is a 3 percent offer to cover their full range of costs. I understand the members are seduced by the calculations by Simon Wallace of the aged and residential care association, but the offer that's been made for aged and residential care is not 1.9 percent; it is 3 percent. So there is funding available to fund this increase for home care and support workers, whether it's from health money, ACC  money, or Ministry of Social Development money, because we need to support these workers.