CHRIS PENK (National—Kaipara ki Mahurangi): Thank you very much, Madam Chair. Can I start by acknowledging the point that has been made by a couple of members on both sides of the House, so to speak. Of course we all do want, ultimately, the same thing, I believe, which is, of course, that no victim of sexual violence is retraumatised, but, of course, at the same time, we want to have a process that establishes the truth of a matter in a fair trial so that any convictions are safe, so to speak. So I think it's gracious of members who maybe have approached this from another perspective to others to acknowledge that the intentions each of the other are good in this space.