NICOLA WILLIS (National): So do I take from that, from the Minister in the chair, Chris Hipkins, that not only is this bill intended to provide a vehicle for the Minister to introduce minimum pay rates but also to dictate to early childhood education services the conditions under which they must promote and pay a teacher more? The reason I ask that is that this is something that is quite jealously guarded by employers, the idea that they get to choose which of their staff they offer a pay rise to, under what conditions, and the idea that, actually, there may be circumstances in which they wish to pay someone more despite the fact that they haven't had the length of service of another teacher. They may believe that one teacher is a great performer and deserves to be paid more than another teacher who's actually been there longer but isn't performing as well. So I would seek from the Minister clarification that what I understood to be his answer to the last question is that he has widened the conditions or purposes here in order to allow himself as the Minister to dictate those step changes and those salary conditions.