I would appreciate the member actually answering this question, which I have asked in several different forms this afternoon. So far, I haven't actually gotten the answer. I've gotten a variety of answers, which I agree with in terms of the differences between charities and not-for-profits, but not this particular answer, and I would really appreciate the member perhaps giving us that particular answer. And, in doing that, of course, it will answer the question that was raised just in respect of clause 5 by my colleague Mr Michael Wood. 