I was asked a while ago, "Will they come?" Well, they won't be going to Bali and they won't be having their holidays in South-east Asia. New Zealand is seen to be safe. Actually, the rate of the epidemic in Australia and New Zealand tracked almost identically. They were able to keep their economy open a lot more. As soon as that trans-Tasman border is open, the tourism sector will breathe a sigh of relief. What they need to hear from the Minister and the Government today is what the plan is, when they hope to have it open, because if it is six months away, then the tourism sector can plan to that. If it is longer, they can plan to that. But actually, I don't think it has to be longer. If it can be three months, then many of them will talk to their bank managers, they will talk to their staff, they will look to how they market themselves and they can make a plan. The worst thing in business, actually, is uncertainty, and sometimes a no is as good as a yes, if it comes quickly. In this case, the Government is not saying no and they're not saying yes; they're leaving them hanging. For those 900 people in that hotel chain that lost their jobs this week, I feel for them. They need a full-time plan, not a part-time Minister.