So to the first point: what are we doing here? Why are we doing this? The first point, of course, is to improve outcomes for learners. And I'll note that I'm being heckled at the moment around that point of improving outcomes for learners. So it's probably important to state that it was the National Party in Government, in their former term of Government, who removed the right of staff and student representatives to be on boards of tertiary and polytech institutions—and I will return to it later. This decision by the former National Government was noted by a number of submitters, not least by staff and students from the likes of Unitec, who stated that as a result of these decisions under the former National Government, we ended up with poor decisions under polytechs because their voices weren't taken into account. So forgive me if I feel as though what we're currently hearing from the National Party are crocodile tears.