And I look at New Zealand and its own Evidence Act and I think it's quite clear, just reading out some of the legislation there. It says, "If a journalist has promised an informant not to disclose the informant's identity, neither the journalist nor [the] employer is compellable in a civil or criminal proceeding to answer any question or produce any document that would disclose the identity of the informant or enable that identity to be discovered." I think that's a really important protection that protects the freedom of the press to be able to report and investigate sensitive issues, but it also goes on and says it's not without limit. It basically says that a judge of the High Court may order that this subsection does not apply, and then it goes on to talk about weighing up some factors in that respect. But pretty much by and large that protection is conferred.