Hon NANAIA MAHUTA: I join with the local government sector who admit that further work needs to be done to ensure that the public gets good information about the parlous state of waters infrastructure and the need to invest more in that area. The modelling that we have done proves that there is around about $125 billion to $195 billion needed over the next 30 years to ensure greater resilience in our waters infrastructure. We need to find a financially sustainable way to achieve that. At the heart of our reform programme, we are trying to separate balance sheets between councils and the ability to invest in water infrastructure. The model that we have in front of us seriously enables that opportunity, and it will be a total sum benefit to the affordability aspects that ratepayers are currently challenged with.