I was talking to a constituent. Their daughter was in a foreign city in the US—I guess all US cities are foreign to New Zealand, but she was in one of them—and in order to return to New Zealand, she had to get a pre-departure test. This is why I say we're 20 years behind the rest of the world. It was very difficult to get one, because Americans couldn't believe you had to. And in the end, at 1 a.m., she was so scared of missing her flight—and she couldn't afford another one if she missed it—that she spent US$220 getting a sanctioned pre-departure test to come to New Zealand. Now, you think about it: we made one of our citizens do that—all that stress, all that expense for no reason at all, when the COVID Minister admits it's not making a difference to our public health response whether we have pre-departure testing. So why don't we just dump it?