Hon DAMIEN O'CONNOR: Over recent years, we've seen some of the reports from these ships, many of which—about 80 percent of which—are not designed for live exports, where conditions on board have led to many adverse animal welfare outcomes. While I acknowledge that this trade has been able to generate additional revenue for some farmers, ultimately, we aren't able to guarantee the welfare of these animals once they're at sea, and that is an unacceptable risk to New Zealand's reputation. New Zealand must stay ahead of the curve in a world where animal welfare is under increasing scrutiny if we truly want to be the most ethical producers of the finest food in the world.