Hon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (National): Well, that would be absolutely fine, except the Minister of Health has done an 180 degree turn-around in respect of the setting of targets, particularly in mental health. As shadow Minister in 2017, he called on the Government and the Minister of Health to set a suicide reduction target and proposed a 20 percent reduction in suicidality in New Zealand. Indeed, he forced Dr Coleman, basically, to match him. It was like a mental health telethon on the campaign trail. The moment the Minister gets to office: oh no, that's a bit hard. The narrative was one death is one too many, and that I agree with; I'm not doubting that. But we need to set off on a journey of reduction in self-harm and suicidality in this country, that will not be achieved if we aren't very clear about that as the goal. 