SIMON WATTS (National—North Shore): Thank you very much, Madam Chair. As we work our way through this bill, I want to move—and it's actually related to a question that I asked earlier in regards to penalties, and the Minister acknowledged that section 4 would be the point in which the bill would cover this detail. So I've been waiting here in anticipation for the moment to be able to get into the questions around penalties and get a little bit of clarity on that.