So there's nowhere that I can see that this sort of money is necessary, and it certainly isn't appropriate, in my view. I think Joseph Mooney hit the nail on the head when he talked about the track record of this Government when it comes to mergers, because it seems to me that whatever problem the Government perceives, their answer is merger; their answer is Wellington. We merged 16 polytechnics into one on the basis that it would reduce the combined deficits that they were making of around $55 million. 