I would, though, note that this is not about carbon forests. It was actually intended to be! It's just one of the ironies in life sometimes that we got it right, perhaps, in respect of carbon forests accidentally. I was always concerned that if we gave the same—as the Minister, the Hon Shane Jones, used to say—primrose path to consent to carbon forestry, we would be giving an inappropriate leg-up to overseas investment in carbon forestry at a time when New Zealand carbon markets were not mature. And partly because of some problems that there have been in carbon markets in the prior decade, I was worried that New Zealanders undervalued what we had in our carbon potential in our forests and we might see that rapidly transferred to overseas owners, as we had seen investment in forestry, per se, in the prior decades. So I personally didn't want carbon forests to have the primrose path. 