Hon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister of Health): My response to Dr Paul Young is a matter of public record. At 12.06 p.m. on 14 October 2021, I wrote "that is not what I said. In addition to 243 beds we call 'ICU beds', extra beds can be made available for ICU-level care staffed by surge trained nurses under supervision. DHBs advise they can lift the number to 320 to 340. [The] real issue is vaccination keeps people out of ICU."