This report really stuck out for me because I'd been there. I've been to the Borneo jungle. I was there about 15 years ago, as part of a UN capacity-building project. If people had seen what I'd seen, they'd be truly shocked to look at it from that other dimension. PKE does cause intensive dairying. There is all that runoff into our rivers, as well. We often get really focused on the domestic impacts, but there are international impacts as well. 