The birth of a child is one of the most special events in family life for a lot of people, but it is never stress-free, and it's especially true for those who face difficulties or who can't conceive a child of their own. The law governing surrogacy in New Zealand certainly doesn't help. I think my colleague Tangi Utikere has run through several examples, so I won't say those again, but it's really clear that when you look at the legislation and the arrangements in place, that it just places really unnecessary burdens on both the surrogate mother and the intending parents. I think there were a couple of quotes at the time when this bill was drawn, alluding to the fact that it really amounted to people having to jump through unnecessary hoops and to experience a very different experience than most people would assume was fair and reasonable.