SIMON COURT: Thank you, Madam Chair. So back to the purpose of the bill, which the member has described but he has not fully explained why or, in the spirit of cooperation that he described between Environment Canterbury and Te Rūnanga o Ngāi Tahu, what other forum are available to engage in this cooperation. Potentially, there are face-to-face meetings. Potentially, there is a request for Te Rūnanga o Ngāi Tahu to give advice to Environment Canterbury on matters that are important to Environment Canterbury and to the community, and they feel that Ngāi Tahu can make a contribution. 