Hon ANDREW LITTLE: It's very sad that the National Party is forced to put up absurd propositions on what is a very serious issue for Māori, but actually for all of New Zealand, and that is the inequity in our health system: inequity of access and inequity of health outcomes. That member well knows, because of the region from which he comes, that there are kaupapa Māori health services that provide health services to Māori and to Pākehā. They don't distinguish it, and they provide excellent Māori health services as a result.