I understand that there has been a freedom of expression and a freedom of speech debate running quite thickly through the debate around this legislation, but, as has been said on many occasions, the freedom of speech or expression is not absolute. In this instance—and I'm trying to be very careful about how I say this, because the member used the phrase "sticks and stones". But words do hurt people, and whether they are part of a prayer-based conversation or whether they're not a faith-based conversation, there was clear evidence and anecdotes through the select committee of harm that is done, and, as I may have said at the outset too around the member's SOP, there is clear evidence that a considerable amount of damage may have been done to individuals in faith-based settings. 