That's all the niceties. I'll come now to my other kōrero about ACT. And I really do feel sorry for their leader, David Seymour—sorry because he's so desperate to reclaim the National Party vote at the moment. He's prepared to play the cheapest hand in New Zealand politics—that the "Mao-ries" have too much political stunt, which is sad, you see, because Mr Seymour doesn't want a referendum on co-governance. In my view, he wants to dog-whistle up the Ōrewa speech and pretend that it's a debate.