I do want to talk about the most recent outbreak in the context of our border incidents more generally. It was very interesting to hear the Minister talk about "public health experts who should know better". Wasn't that an interesting phrase, because one of the things the Government has been very keen to do has been to rely on public health experts, and we now have a member of the House—Dr Verrall—who was one of the experts relied on by the Government in the initial months. She provided expert testimony to the Epidemic Response Committee in a very good report, which has been—well, at least the Government says it has been implemented fully, which is the Verrall report, as it's become known. It was very interesting, I thought, to hear the Minister then get very worked up, actually, about public health experts who should know better, and I wonder if he will have cause to reflect on that remark. I suspect the reason he is worked up about it is because for the first time in a while, public health experts are saying things the Government should be doing that they are not doing, and they are pointing out things that are uncomfortable for the Government. 