I also need to point out that I just see this as a continual New Zealand First ploy. I think there are many out there in the community who look to New Zealand First as some sort of conservative group, a moderate group, a considered group, but they are not. When it comes to the issues, they are not. If you have a conservative position and if you have a principled position on these moral questions, you stand up. Now, people don't always like your position—people don't like my position. That's fine, but I stand up and I'll take it. I'll take the hits and I'll challenge why. But having a referenda is just a ploy to avoid the tough questions. 