Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: That assumes that advice is correct. I remind the member that we have presided over some of the lowest unemployment rates in a decade, all the while increasing the wages of New Zealand—first point. Second point: 40 percent of businesses who rely on the minimum wage are large organisations; half of them are small businesses. So you do a disservice to those small businesses who are paying wages above minimum wage. Finally, there is a stimulatory effect as a result of minimum wages, which is exactly what we need.