Hon JUDITH COLLINS: Does Stuart Smith, the MP for Kaikōura, think it might be near Auckland, where the demand is? Oh, no—no, no, no—definitely not. That would be down the bottom of the South Island again, Mr Smith, and the reason for that is that, clearly, we can afford to lose more electricity being transmitted up north, because the transmission itself loses a percentage of the electricity—up to 10 to 20 percent, depending on what's going on. 