Hon MICHAEL WOOD (Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety): Look, I have commented on this a number of times already, but just to make another comment in terms of the point that Mr Simpson is making around prorating. It is good to know that he does have a relatively balanced view of things, because not only does he have such a dim view of employers that he thinks that they might discriminate against people who might have dependants in their hiring decisions; he also thinks that employees are just sort of primed and waiting to take advantage and play hooky and use all of their sick leave when they're not already sick. I have a much more optimistic view of human nature and the way that Kiwi workers and employers treat one another, on the whole. 