So I want to talk about the things that are not occurring in the polytech centralisation, basic things of change management—things like no integration plan, no financial sustainability plan, no operating model, no organisational structure. This has led to a sector that has now more than doubled its deficit and, in some of the polytechnics, it has doubled the staff turnover. Can we imagine what would happen to our health sector if those same outcomes of a poorly managed centralisation doubled the deficits of our DHBs and doubled the staff turnover? 