But I do want to touch on a couple of the concerns that I have about whether there is sufficient evidence of this being the right thing to do, and, in fact, more so whether one of the three policy elements could actually cause more harm than good. I'll elaborate on that in a minute, but I do want to acknowledge the comments that Debbie Ngarewa-Packer made about the previous Government's confidence and supply agreement with the Māori Party, and the excellent progress that was made, firstly, in setting the goal of Smokefree 2025, which at that time was pretty ambitious. Now, we know we're not going to get there, but at least we set off on a path that, mainly through impositions of increased excise, certainly put people into the situation of saying, "time to stop". But for those hardcore, chronically-addicted smokers, no amount of new excise is going to change that, I don't think. We did need to think of other means, and after what I believe is an unfortunate delay of several years, we now have an Associate Minister of Health who's acted boldly, I think, in these three ideas. 