Hon KRIS FAAFOI: Well, one of the first statements that this Government said is that if people needed housing, we would help them. That's why people have come forward and see hope in the Government in supplying housing for New Zealanders that need it, which is why we now have more than 5,000 more public houses than we inherited. We have committed to 8,000 more. I would point out, again, that we have built them, and in the last couple of weeks, National has, again, promoted 30,000 "ghost homes".