I'm also interested in concrete examples—because we continue to hear it—of what defines meaningful work and, probably more importantly, what doesn't. We've also heard it a lot in the last week—the language shifted to people having a good job. So to the thousands of employers out there who have jobs that they are desperately trying to fill, I think it would be useful for the Minister, who is in charge of a nearly $40 billion vote, to answer my first series of questions around the employment and social outcomes support, and to describe and define what is and isn't meaningful work and a good job. 