But, of course, farmers up and down in New Zealand care about animal welfare, because it is their livelihoods. You know, it is what makes our country work. And it's also that unless farmers are looking after their animals, they don't have good produce for the next year. It is in every farmer's best interest to give good conditions to their animals. So animal welfare is extremely important. But why are we bringing this bill to Parliament? And I think we need to acknowledge every time that we bring a new law to this place: what is the problem that we're actually trying to solve? What is the proposed solution? What are the benefits and the costs? A very basic question, and ACT has analysed all of these and, I'm sorry to say, but it doesn't stack up as a good law to be made. 