Mr Watts focused on the costs of establishing the new health entities and the deficits of the DHBs, but the Minister did respond to that, emphasising the importance of the two new entities and the importance of making sure that they get off on the right footing—that they begin life in a stable position and aren't given any legacy problems that they may have over from the DHBs, and that they will therefore be a much more effective way of delivering health services and deliver real fiscal benefits, and will be a real break from the current system.