Hon JAMES SHAW: As I said earlier, there are a number variances in the Draft National Policy Statement for Indigenous Biodiversity relating to geothermal land, pastoral farming—which I would imagine that that member is quite interested in the variances for, as well—forestry, and for Māori land, and there are a number of very good reasons for that, which were outlined when we first consulted on this in the summer of 2019-20, and then again on second draft more recently. 