CHRIS PENK (National—Kaipara ki Mahurangi) (remote): Thank you very much, Mr Chair. With all due respect to the Minister's response, I find that actually somewhat fatuous, and it ignores the reality that National supported this bill at first reading because at that time it was better than nothing. We made it very clear in our first reading speeches that the bill should have been introduced long before, certainty should have been provided to the courts, the safety and efficiency mechanisms should have been available much sooner, and the backlogs that now plague our court system would be that much less, accordingly. 