I note also, in my own background, that I spent part of my childhood in Iran where spying was done often. Everyone knew someone whose phone was tapped. No one felt secure to speak on any kind of phone or street corner. We knew that tyranny was rife and politicised. But in New Zealand, though, we have this proud history of a democratic Parliament that oversees policing. We have a judicial system that oversees the work of the police force in terms of search and surveillance. Even here mass surveillance outside of the law and what the public expect has happened. We've had a Prime Minister who promised to resign if mass surveillance was happening. We found that it was happening, and that resignation did not come.