Hon CHRIS HIPKINS (Minister for COVID-19 Response): I was interested in David Seymour's comments—that he didn't suggest that we should adopt the risk management approach of Taiwan and Singapore, which has previously been the argument that he's put forward in this House. Both of those countries, of course, have experienced outbreaks and have had to impose restrictions. I think it is wrong for David Seymour to continue to assert that our success in containing COVID-19 is down to luck. It is absolutely not. In fact, it is the hard work of the people working at our border and in our public health units, and I think all New Zealanders are grateful to them for their contribution. 