It is a serious matter. It has huge implications for the tertiary education sector and for industry training, and throughout the course of this debate this afternoon, members of the Government parties who have tried to sell its benefits have studiously avoided the very real concern and criticism that we've had from the Tertiary Education Commission and from Treasury, both of whom have seen this as a very dire measure that will do enormous damage to industry training and within the tertiary education sector. So we will need to pay careful attention to the SOPs that come forward. I do hope that, as Ms Swarbrick said, she will be looking creatively and reasonably at all the measures that are being promoted because we have to improve this bill. Too much will be very much at risk if we get this wrong.