Mr Simpson mentioned that as a business owner, if a person is faced with a prospective employee who has no children and one who has children, they would choose, potentially, the person that doesn't have children. Well, I say that I can't fathom that, because it assumes that employers don't take into consideration, potentially, the type of person and the fit that they would be for their business over the fact that they have children and they might take more sick leave. I find that unfathomable.