I think the vast majority of New Zealanders would accept that if the law was going to be the same as it is now, then that is where the law should lie. That is something which I'm asking the Minister: on what basis does he believe that post - 20 weeks in New Zealand, the law needs to be changed to the criteria that are in the bill that is before Parliament? What examples can he give of women seeking abortion and requiring abortion now who can't get it but will be able to under this law, or who can't get it but should be able to under this bill? 