SIMON COURT: Thank you. So back to the purpose of the bill, for the benefit of that member, Barbara Edmonds. I'm asking: would the member sponsoring the bill please explain what the objectives are behind this purpose? If the objectives are that Te Rūnanga o Ngāi Tahu seek to have an extraordinary opportunity over and above any other groups which have a longstanding connection to Te Wai Pounamu, the South Island, such as farmers, such as the transporting industry, such as the miners, the energy operators, then the member should make a case for that. And we haven't heard that, because the purpose simply says to appoint up to two members of the council, so they can do elected council stuff. Well, it's not clear why they need that opportunity and why they need those powers, which rightly should fall, under a liberal democracy, only to people who have sought to be elected. 