Secondly, in respect of any expectation that I might have about there being fewer or more productions as a result of there being collective bargaining provisions: I don't have any particular reason to think that it will be here nor there in that respect. The main example that the member referred to, of course, was Amazon shifting production elsewhere, which was driven by other factors—as I understand it, primarily by tax treatment and subsidies that are often probably, actually, amongst the most significant drivers of where productions settle internationally. But I really just don't accept the fundamental premise that basic labour rights should be on the table in this area. If you go down that rabbit hole, well, maybe we should remove the minimum wage, maybe we should remove basic provisions to sick leave and ACC and others things that are a bedrock of decent terms and conditions because international businesses would prefer that we lowered their cost base. We just don't think that is a way that we should conduct ourselves. We think that we should have basic decent terms and conditions for people who do work in New Zealand, and then aim to be competitive in other ways other than a race to the bottom.