DAVID SEYMOUR (Leader—ACT): Thank you, Madam Chair. I'd just like to respond to a few of the things the Minister said. First of all, is his rather intemperate response to Paul Goldsmith's comments. The question that Paul Goldsmith asked seemed to be, you know, should representation and representative bodies that make decisions in New Zealand—this Parliament, councils, school decision-making bodies—be proportional to one person, one vote, or should there be some other proportionality as per the concept of a partnership under the Treaty? I think that's a legitimate debate that a lot of people would like to have. The way that the Minister tried to somehow make an equivalency with students being hit for speaking Māori many, many, many decades ago, I don't think really is helpful to the debate, to be quite honest. For context, students were getting corporal punishment for just about everything in that era, and, actually, in that period it was a different time. Many Māori parents actually wanted their kids to learn English instead of Māori. I don't think it helps to have these kinds of intemperate debates. We need honest conversations that unite New Zealanders behind better ideas, but so much for that.