We think of current examples that we know of, or recent examples in this country, where Rebecca Macfie has just recently published a book around Pike River, where 29 men died. One of the key findings from her research was that every person who comes to you with information about safety is a whistleblower and deserves to be listened to respectfully, that there was a failure at Pike River to listen to those raising concerns about safety, and that it was against the corporate interests at the time, and 29 men died. We've heard recently in the news, even tonight, around the actions of the Australian Defence Force in East Timor, where our soldiers saw behaviour that could have led to a trial for murder ended up in charges around brutalising a corpse that were not able to be progressed because our soldiers were not given the assurances of protection in providing their evidence. Links have been made to the failure to act in what was found in East Timor, leading to further abuses of power and very problematic behaviour happening in Afghanistan.