I'd also like to ask that we take time to actually talk about what it is that we, as whānau, in the first thousand days, and it was talked about very clearly across there with Terisa Ngobi. We have with us whānau that belong as pā harakeke. We don't exist just in the 999 days or the thousand days; we exist before we're born. How we decide to actually look after our whānau and our pā harakeke and how we decide to whakamana our whānau when they need it, including our tamariki, is really important for this House to contemplate. For those that are sitting there making it seem so easy to be on a benefit, I suggest you go out there and look at those who are volunteering and still doing everything they can to get ahead. 