We've also heard in the debate various concerns raised about whether or not, somehow or other, a move towards renewable energy is likely to make this problem worse. As Minister Parker has argued, that is not the case; that does not need to be the case. But if members opposite are concerned about the amount of generation capacity available right now today, well, if we wind the clock back to when you need to start a project in order for that project to be supplying power to New Zealanders today, that would take us right back into the term of the last National Government. So it isn't actually how the system works to say that we can click our fingers and today that generation will be there. Seven years, on average, is the amount of time it takes. So Gerry Brownlee and Steven Joyce and the other Ministers of energy who were responsible for this during the last term of that Government might like to answer that question, as to whether or not there should have been—