Potentially there are 180,000 illegal weapons at large in New Zealand. So in my mind, that's why it made sense for the Government to back what National's been saying for the last 18 months or so: let's get tough on these gangs with a prohibition order. So we had a member's bill; got voted down by the Government. We tried through the select committee stage, tried through the committee stage to really get tougher on gangs and what they do in communities with peddling illegal firearms. And what do we hear from the Government? "No, that's not necessary because 1,800 cops are actually going to deal with that issue." 