Hon MICHAEL WOOD: When the emissions trading scheme was established by a previous Labour Government, it was never envisaged that there would never be any specific measures to support New Zealanders to reduce their emissions. I do note that the analysis that has been provided shows that if we relied solely on the price of carbon to achieve the same kind of electric vehicle level uptakes as we will achieve through the Clean Car Discounts, then we would need to increase the price of carbon to approximately $575 per tonne, meaning an extra $1.30 per litre on petrol prices. If the member wants to campaign on that policy, then he is very welcome to do so.