The second question I asked—which I didn't get an answer to—was how on earth could the Minister of Justice come to the conclusion, looking at the scene that we face in New Zealand today and every day—and today has just another example on the news tonight of a dairy owner had a couple of regular attacks on his property, fearful for his property and, ultimately, his safety. We see the rise of gangs, we see shootings on an unheard of level in Auckland and around the country, and we've seen an increase in violent crime of more than 20 percent. We see all this—everybody sees it; everybody understands it. Why is it that the priority for this Government and the conclusion that they've drawn is that, "Oh, we're too tough on the worst offenders and we've got to reduce sentences for those worst offenders."? Why and how does she come to that conclusion? Thank you, Mr Chair.