Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: We are working, as we speak, for arrangements to ensure that if there is a time and place where it is safe to do so, and that it meets our criteria, we will be ready to do that. We've started with trans-Tasman. That work is still under way, but, again, I say to the member: if he believes New Zealanders want us to open up our borders without any concern for their public safety, the member is well out of step with the public sentiment.