But the other example I just wanted to get a very clear answer from the Minister on was in relation to a "health practitioner". This is, again, dealt with in the legislation where a conversion practice does not include any action that a health practitioner takes when providing a health service if they comply with legal standards, and one of those legal standards is requiring informed consent before any medical intervention takes place. So we have a reasonably high level of certainty that this is not meant to be captured. But I suppose where I come from is the point that, as is intended, laws have an impact on people's behaviour, and when people are faced with the possibility of imprisonment if they get on the wrong side of the line or are being hauled before a Human Rights Commission, they tend to react very conservatively. The risk is that people hang back from confrontational conversations and fail to ask some of the real questions that need to be asked, and in this context—in the context of teenagers making very significant medical decisions about their lives—the most fundamental question that should be asked not just once but perhaps a number of times is "Do you really want to do this?"