Hon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE: The member says I'm being a pessimist, and I think that was the accusation that was put by Fletcher Tabuteau to the previous speaker. I think there is a big difference between rhetoric and hyperbole and the reality of what's going on. Call me a number of things, but you would never call me an optimist when it comes to the situation that we face and the conditions within which Budget 2020 is going to be written. All of the slogans and all of the fancy hyperbole that comes out of the Government is not going to deliver the improvements that this country needs and the strategies to keep New Zealanders well through a significant economic and health crisis.