SIMEON BROWN: Thank you, Mr Chair. Well, I'd like to move on to some of the points raised by the Minister in the chair, Andrew Little, where he spoke in response to questions around Down syndrome and whether there was pressure being applied to women in these situations. He said that there was no pressure, but there could be perceived to be pressure. I do just want to acknowledge the submission which was raised by my colleague Agnes Loheni, where there is a clear case of someone who came to the committee, who put in a submission, and said, "This is the pressure that I am having. This is the pressure which is being applied by the medical professionals."—and the concern raised by that submitter as to what would happen if this bill is passed.