Now, we as a committee also heard some submissions from examples of welfare on some ships that needed to be improved, and none of us would disagree with that. There were some of those ships that shouldn't be sailing with animals on it, and there were some of those ships that should not be allowed to continue. However, we saw some exemplar examples, and we heard from the industry about ships that were built for purpose—for animals, less than 25 years old, that could be used. They were talking about the amount of feed on the ship; the extension of five days extra feed in case there was a hold-up to make sure the animals weren't going hungry. We heard from vets and we heard people working on those ships, and we know that this process can be done extremely well.