Hon STUART NASH: Sorry, it's where she's based. It is the Chair's electorate; I apologise, Madam Chair. It is the Chair's electorate but it is where Kiritapu Allan is based, and I work closely with all the communities there. The Chair is probably well aware—and I don't mean to bring you into it, Madam Chair—that there were conversations that were being had with every single stakeholder—from the city council, from the New Zealand Police, from iwi, from the National Emergency Management Agency, from Civil Defence—around these really vulnerable communities. We're talking about communities which have a high portion of elderly, a high portion of Māori, and of which there was really one road in and one road out. So there was no reason for anyone apart from those who live in that community to traverse these roads under alert level 4. 