Hon SHANE JONES (Minister of Forestry): Tēnā tātou katoa. Before I start this speech, I want to clear the air. I want to acknowledge today that a remark I made within question time has caused considerable disquiet amongst some of my colleagues in the House that in some way I was trivialising or demonising those folk who may from time to time suffer mental hardship. So I apologise. At no point did I ever imagine that I was deliberately attacking the member who sits in Nelson. I largely see him as one of the more—