I said that there's some historical amnesia. One of the National members said, "Well, the Government could have sat back with the popcorn and just watched." Well, that's not my recollection of being on the Cabinet Social Policy Committee at the time. There was enormous concern, because the precedent that had been set in the Bartlett case meant that there might be challenges in all sorts of areas of work, many of which would have fiscal implications, because in many cases the Government was, if not the direct employer of people who might take a case, at least the funder of those areas, such as care homes. 