I'm part of the Māori Affairs Committee, and we've heard today that the select committee travelled to the Chathams to undertake the submissions, and that in itself each time—and we've heard how members described their journeys of understanding and their knowledge of the imi and how it fits in terms of the context of Māori, tauiwi, Pākehā, and others, who come now to form what is the Chatham Island people. 