That is, again, what I commit to as the Minister of Immigration: to make sure that we're having those robust discussions with a whole lot of sectors, again, who have traditionally relied on migrant labour who can't bring that labour in at the moment and need long-term plans to make sure we are training people and attracting New Zealanders into that work. That will mean training, and the Hon Chris Hipkins has done a lot in that space pre-COVID. We are continuing to do more, but it's also a robust discussion about making sure we've got wages and conditions that New Zealanders will see as attractive, and that has been one of the challenges. 