Hon Dr NICK SMITH (National—Nelson): If the Minister in the chair, Andrew Little, had actually listened to the voice of victims, he would've taken a very different perspective, because, at the select committee stage of this bill, we heard from numerous organisations representing victims saying, actually, part of our criminal justice system is about freedom. When you are locked up in a prison, you lose the freedom of association; you lose the freedom of movement; you lose the freedom to be able to have imparted information; and, equally so, you lose the right to vote. In the eyes of victims, actually, this Government is far more preoccupied with the rights of criminal offenders than it is with those that are the victims of crime.