HARETE HIPANGO (National): I rise and take a call as spokesperson for the National Party on children, Oranga Tamariki, and Whānau Ora. I'm not as confident as the Minister was in his address that this will improve the system. Having received the bill late on Monday evening, it's a bill that is 82 pages long, 122 clauses and four schedules. I haven't had sufficient time to scrutinise thoroughly this bill. However, should this bill progress to the select committee, the scrutiny will take place there, and I think the judgment will come from the stakeholders who are invested in this specialist area and field.