We'd also say, "Look, if you're a New Zealand business and you want to mitigate your emissions, you don't necessarily have to do it here in New Zealand, where it might be expensive, where land is expensive, and where people are telling you, 'You're not allowed to plant a tree here or there.' Why can't you go and plant some trees in the rainforest in a country that's been deforested, where entire species have been wiped out? Why can't you go and replant the rainforest"—