Hon CARMEL SEPULONI: When you see the numbers of people go up, with regards to benefit numbers in general, then you will see that in every category with regards to time frames. I am still heartened by the fact that we are seeing more exits off benefit into employment than what we have seen since electronic records were kept. If I just reflect on the last week, another 1,000—or actually 999 to be exact—New Zealanders have moved off benefit. That speaks to this Government's track record. 