Since we've come to power, in fairness, Paula Bennett took away the two-for-one deal, and the price for carbon once the system was closed to international emissions units returned to $25 a tonne, and the economy hasn't suffered at all for it. Because we're now closed to overseas units, you actually have to have another method of setting price other than the international market, and that's why this system moves to auctioning, with a cost containment reserve which is set at $35. The market won't automatically move there. Indeed, in response to one of the other speakers' comments, I would note that post-COVID, the price for a while dropped to around $20 a tonne, which was a market response to the decrease in demand.