What we do have in our country is tertiary education rules that enable academics and all allied staff members in these tertiary institutions to kōrero, to talk openly, respectfully, and academically to deconstruct, reconstruct, and talk about things that are important to people and communities; things that matter. But I come back to the start of my speech because the people that you are asking for, in this particular bill, are going to put forward kaupapa and discussions that hurt other people. They're not topics. They aren't topics, the ones that you've talked about. They aren't topics where people aren't going to be hurt, and you're asking them to stand up on university campuses and have their say. I oppose this bill. I oppose it once, twice, three times, because that subject matter has no place in Aotearoa New Zealand. 