MATT DOOCEY (National—Waimakariri): Thank you very much, Madam Chair. I couldn't help but rise in response to that. What a mischaracterisation by the Minister. We are not proposing a doomsday of getting out of cars. What we're saying is the difference on this side of the House is we back New Zealanders to make the right decisions. We want to give them the carrots; these guys want to give New Zealanders the sticks because they don't believe New Zealanders will do the right thing. And they'll bring out a stick from the beltway of Wellington, and smack regional New Zealanders around with it. 