Here I want to come on to one of Ms Stanford's points, which was an obsessive focus on what's the productivity argument here. Well, I'll come to that in a moment—productivity is important, but productivity is not the only reason why we have minimum entitlements in place for people in the workplace. We have minimum entitlements, such as decent sick leave and good holiday leave and the minimum wage, in the workplace because it's about how we want to treat people. When it comes to sick leave, we want to ensure that when Kiwi workers are unwell they have a reasonable opportunity to stay at home and get better. I believe that it's very clear that that will support productivity, because workers who come into the workplace and are unwell are unlikely to perform at the level that an employer would wish them to, and they are very likely to pass that on to others in the workplace. 