Why is it that these fantastic-sounding individuals couldn't put themselves up for election and be voted in on their own merits, because it sounds like they'd make fantastic candidates, just the kind of people we'd like to attract to local government. If that's the case, wouldn't it be better for everybody in the long run if they sought a democratic mandate, if Environment Canterbury dropped this proposal to appoint members with voting rights and went down the road of actually doing the hard work and establishing a Māori constituency? Thank you.