I guess I stand here as someone in that category who hasn't gone through the surrogacy process. My husband and I have talked about it but haven't really landed on whether that's something we want to do. But, in terms of being a foster parent, and through the Oranga Tamariki system, for years now, having young people who are my family who are now growing up and having their own families, it's always a weird look. I know; I look so young and fit! But when a youngie in the supermarket says, "Koro Glen", and everyone looks and thinks "Glen, you're far too young for that." But, actually, it is a makeup of family that is different to what was the norm back in the 1950s or 1940s or 1930s; we're in the 21st century. So this bill is around recognising families and how they can be formed.