And herein lies the relevance to clause 5(2)(b) of this piece of legislation, which says that conversion practice does not include assisting an individual who is undergoing or considering undergoing a gender transition. So people who are worried about parents being criminalised because they stop their children from receiving hormones that are prescribed by a clinician—get real. It's not a real conversation, it's misinformation, and trying to create in the public panic that parents are going to be criminalised. I think it's an absolutely abhorrent position for anybody to take on this piece of legislation. At the heart of this is our children and them knowing that they are perfect as they are, that they are loved, and that we as a society will value them and not let any harm happen to them in their exploration and their expression of who they are. I seriously say to the National Party, you are on the wrong side of history. [Interruption] 