Dr DUNCAN WEBB: I want to hit the very foundation of this. You're right, Mr Henare! I want to hit the absolute foundation of this question, because, for some bizarre reason, on that side of the House they don't seem to know any company law. So the question is: what is in the interests of a company? And you know what? It appears, bizarrely, that that side of the House thinks that it's not in the best interests of a company to take notice of climate change. They think it's in the best interests of a company to burn aviation fuel till the cows come home, and not take any notice of the fact that the world is changing. Julie Anne Genter touched on that at length, and she's right. But, you know, she's not alone. Chapman Tripp, that very well-respected law firm, had a sustainable finance forum in 2019. Do you know what they said? They said it would be a breach of the duties of a director not to take climate change into account. So when we think about it, companies need to be prepared for the future. It is absolutely responsible for them to do that.