Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS: The decision to phase out the low fixed-user charge was, of course, a recommendation of the Electricity Price Review which was aimed, very much, at the concerns that the member is sharing in the House here today, which is around those families that are experiencing energy hardship. For reducing costs, larger families who aren't low users, because of the nature of the size of their family and their homes, will more potentially be better off under their changes. They will not be cross-subsidising people, like myself, who live in a smaller family unit in a very well-insulated house. So they will be better off under those. In terms of energy efficiency, that is something the Government is putting a lot of work into, I refer the member again to the answers in regard to Warmer Kiwi Homes.