Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: Yes, as I've acknowledged, people have been in inadequate housing, and I would rather they be safe and housed than remain in an inadequate situation. I would also rather that they were ultimately in long-term housing, public housing; that they were in safe and stable housing; that if it's appropriate and they need wraparound support, they're with "CHiPS" or with NGOs. But the member's solution seems to be to do nothing.