But on a more positive note, can I just acknowledge Tangi Utikere for the same reasons others have talked about—he has come from local government, as have myself, and, of course, the chair of the Governance and Administration Committee; I acknowledge you, Mr Speaker—and for bringing this around, improving the transparency and strengthening the public trust and confidence in the decision making of local authorities. I want to also just say to the member, yeah, it's great, having a member's bill drawn from the ballot and being able to have something to say that's featured for a big part of his life in terms of being on Palmerston North City Council—and I note they're looking for a chief executive—but also to reflect with some skill and experience why this is important to have for local government.