Hon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE: The member—I will get to that, Mr Hipkins, don't worry—for Palmerston North speaks so effusively of the officials, only it's those officials, who have worked so hard in difficult circumstances because this Government hasn't given them the appropriate rules of engagement at managed isolation facilities, that went under the bus as well—it wasn't the Minister's fault. I'm not even sure which Minister Winston Peters was talking about last Thursday. The Minister of Health, the Minister of Housing, the Prime Minister—doesn't matter. It wasn't their fault; it was the officials' fault. It was the staff's fault. It was the security's fault. It was the hotel staff's fault. That is an unacceptable slur on the effort that not only the team of 5 million have put in but their public sector staff have as well.