So I'm going to come back to the debate on the Estimates, where the Minister has talked about his ministerial advisory group and the recommendations that have come out of the report Te Kahu Aroha. The Minister has made a commitment for devolving responsibility for child welfare, care, and protection to communities Māori, the Minister says. I say Māori and non-Māori, our communities—our people at flax-roots and grassroots. I was back home in Whanganui on the weekend, when I always connect with my people—our people on the ground—and I mention particularly Tim Metcalfe, who has been working in the family violence sector for decades in one of Whanganui community's welfare agencies, Jigsaw. So I connected with Tim and I'll be spending more time with him, but we have our Māori communities, as well, who I stay engaged with. 