SIMON O'CONNOR (National—Tāmaki): Oh, Madam Speaker, look, one of the ironies of tonight's debates: I am not a flip-flopper at all; it's one of the probably annoying elements to the Labour Party that I'm relatively consistent. But one of the things I also have noted tonight in the contributions is that the Labour Party, Greens, and New Zealand First seem very keen to give, if you will, many voices to prisoners but not exercise any voice themselves, taking remarkably and appallingly short calls. As I say, they themselves on the Government benches are not prepared to speak to this bill, in defence or otherwise, but are more than happy for those who commit criminal offences to have an enormous voice—and, in fact, one of the most important voices of all—which is the vote.