One of the questions I hear most frequently is, "Well, is it actually really happening in New Zealand?" I first heard about conversion therapy when I watched a TVNZ Sunday documentary in 2018. The phrase in that programme was that it was surprisingly easy to find places that would offer it. I was shocked to think that in this day and age and in this country, Aotearoa New Zealand, diversity, inclusion—it would still be happening. But it was, and from many messages I've received, it's clear that others felt that way as well.