It doesn't matter about what the venue is where this happened. These children are put there for a reason: because they've grown up in households with things happening to them that the average New Zealander could not even comprehend or even survive. These children have known nothing but despair, fear, and anger, and they have learnt to react in these ways. We have stuck them in these facilities because, unfortunately, they are not safe in the community on their own. They are in danger of either hurting somebody else or hurting themselves, and we have a responsibility to care for them. We are also teaching them that they have a place in this world and that there are ways to deal with their anger. How are we teaching them there are better ways to deal with their anger if we in the State care are reacting in the same way that they have been treated growing up? 