How much of this shaming are people, are women, burying? Because I know women and girls, particularly girls, in my life who have had this happen to them, and it is appalling in its impact. But the way in which the Act then proceeded was to ignore the way in which this actually happens. It first required the reasonableness test: "Was it reasonable that you were harmed by this behaviour?" and then next, "Were you actually harmed?" And this is where we fall into a trap in the courts. While the courts are working really hard to pull themselves out of outdated ideas, the fact remains that we still have a judiciary who tend to underestimate the violence done by sexual offending. A bit of a laugh and a bit of a lad is still something that is seen as a real thing by some of our judiciary. We will work to change that, but in the meantime we're changing the law. 