BARBARA KURIGER (National—Taranaki - King Country): Thank you, Mr Speaker. It's a pleasure to stand here and speak on this climate change bill tonight. As you've already heard from the previous speakers, National is opposing this bill. If I go and begin with Minister James Shaw's speech today, talking about giving businesses and foresters the certainty they've been asking for, businesses have been asking for certainty for the last few weeks, and bringing this bill into the House and chopping down a few more trees is not giving businesses the certainty that they're asking for. 