The real problem here is that the Minister has focused his attention on co-governance and administration, and not on patients and not on New Zealanders. This reform has been completely flawed from the start. We should keep people and patients at the centre of our healthcare sector. And the Minister, at the introduction of this bill, said that this bill was about meeting our Treaty obligations. It wasn't about better healthcare, it wasn't about all the discrepancies, about access through New Zealand; it was about meeting our Treaty obligations. What the Minister is really saying by that is that this is the Treaty-at-the-heart-of-everything approach that the Government has taken across the board in governance in this term in Parliament.