But the reality is there were alternatives. There were other ways. We know that around the world, there were alternatives to the very strict lockdown we had, and the non-COVID health impacts of that are going to be severe. We had Dr Chris Jackson on the TV this morning saying that as many as 400 New Zealanders could die prematurely from their cancers as a consequence of this lockdown. That is a massive, massive cost that is not presently counted in the thinking that's going on. Our screening has stopped—our cervical screening, our breast cancer screening, our bowel cancer screening has stopped; cancer has not. That's the same with diabetes and heart disease and other non-communicable chronic conditions—that we have a stretched system, as the Minister has portrayed—and they are not going away. We've heard from dentists and GPs and allied health professionals that they can be working safely and they can take pressure off the health system, and we are now at the point—well, depending on which definition Dr Bloomfield or the Prime Minister uses—of elimination, whatever that means, and, yet, we are still not allowing these people to practise the healthcare that New Zealanders need.