CHRIS BISHOP: He would be all right as police Minister. I read his first reading speech on my legislation back in 2018, and Greg O'Connor talks at length with great verbosity about his time in the police and how bad gangs are, and how it's really important we crack down on the gangs—we've got to take guns off the gangs, gangs are an affront to a dignified society and a civilised country, and I agree with Greg O'Connor. And the sad thing is he's a member of a Government that has spent four years doing basically nothing about the gangs, and now we have gang membership and gang violence out of control. Gang membership's increased more than 50 percent under this Government, and the Government doesn't like being told about gang membership exploding because they say of the National Gang List, which is publicly available official data—that we're not allowed to use it, and we've even got the Police Commissioner saying we shouldn't publish it, which is just crazy. So now we have 8,000 gang members—the highest number of gang members ever—and they didn't hand back the guns during the two amnesties. They didn't hand back the guns then, they'll never give back the guns. In fact, they're on the record publicly saying they're not going to give back the guns. The only alternative is for Parliament to pass legislation with teeth to make sure that the police can go and take them off them. This is a step forward. It's a shame the Government doesn't agree.