My colleague Penny Simmonds, who comes from a very extensive background of practice as an educationalist in the education and training sector, as a former chief executive of the Southland institute of technology—23 years' experience. We have a woman in Parliament who is a member of the National Party, who, when it comes to educational issues, I invite the Government to listen in, to tune in—tune out of the botched TV reality series programme; tune in to the reality and lived life experience of those members on this side of the House who know what we're speaking about. The contributions that we make are legitimate and valid contributions, not for the politics of what goes on but for making sure that we get things done properly for New Zealanders. The education of our children is important and it's in a critical crisis situation at the moment, and here we are fixing up a botched-up job.