Dr SHANE RETI (National—Whangarei): Thank you, Madam Chair. I want to talk to something completely different in this bill, which hasn't been raised to date. We've been able to understand the polytechnic positions, and some of our colleagues have been able to express the industry position. I want to talk to a Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) in my name. Well, first of all, I want to address what Chlöe Swarbrick was saying about collaboration. I'm more than happy to collaborate, but she also could have picked up the phone and reached out. We heard nothing. I heard nothing. So this is a two-way path in the first instance.