So what is a New Zealand response to crime? Well, it's one that reduces offending. The causes of crime need to be addressed: for example, taking into account programmes like Te Pae Oranga panels, like Hōkai Rangi—the initiatives which are shown to get people out of the system, out of offending. Rangatahi and Pacific courts offer young people who have admitted to their offending or have charges that they are facing the choice of having their family group conference plans monitored in the right kind of setting. These things are early interventions in an offending cycle that make a difference to the way that people interact with the justice system and make a difference for the offender's victims in that they are empowered to participate in the system. Te Ao Mārama, this is a programme that incorporates best practices developed in the District Courts' solution-focused specialist courts into mainstream criminal jurisdictions, and that's to realise the shared vision for the court by improving access to justice as well as enhancing procedural and substantive fairness for all people who are affected by the business of the court. Those things are shown to make a difference. Those things are things that we can all agree around this House are things we should be having more conversations about and are things that we can come to the table and work on where the evidence is showing us that there are gains to be made in our justice system. 