But here is the important point. Here is the important point: people do wrong and they cause harm, and sometimes those who do wrong and cause harm wind up in prison. Now, judges make a judgment about the level of culpability, and there are those who wind up in a sentence of less than three years. There are some people who might commit the same act and are sentenced to a non-custodial sentence, but for doing the same thing. It's a point that, actually, Andrew Geddis and Graeme Edgeler pointed to in their submission on this bill—the arbitrary nature of these sorts of judgment calls. 