In ngā kaitiaki group it was actually really lovely to hear Minister Verrall give that whakapapa of the group and of the screening programme, and it resonated for me in two ways. One of my aunties was one of the women affected when those mistakes were made in the Tairāwhiti, and she passed away after being misdiagnosed by the programme. Also, Erihapeti Rehu Murchie, who was one of the first people on the first kaitiaki group, a staunch advocate for Māori women and children for her entire life. She is someone that I mentioned in my maiden speech as having been an early mentor for me and I'm sure many, many other people through her incredible work. Also, the late Irihapeti Ramsden. 