TĀMATI COFFEY: —when we were seeking tino rangatiratanga. For that member, I'll tell him what that means, because he probably doesn't know. Tino rangatiratanga is actually the ability to determine for yourself what you want. It's not about actually getting a cut-and-paste model from overseas and then cutting and pasting it to how you make decisions here locally because that's the way we've always done it. No. This is about Māori coming to the table and saying, "This is how we see our tino rangatiratanga, our mana motuhake playing out in a local context."