The point of that is at the moment, at the Mount Medical Centre in Tauranga, I go to a couple of doctors. One is Singaporean and one is from the United Kingdom, and the point simply is this: I don't give a tuppence—to use another old-fashioned phrase—where they've come from or what their ethnicity is. As long as, medically, they know what they're doing and they're competent, that's all that matters to me as a Māori man with particular Māori health ailments. 