This shows how much contempt the National Party has for anything Māori. They want to neutralise our culture, our tikanga, our kaupapa. How can any member of Parliament stand here and say, "How about using this as a neutral name?", neutralising Māori tikanga, Māori language, Māori kaupapa? That does describe the attitude of the National Party, yet Harete Hipango said the National Party does not diminish the importance of Matariki. They all then set about diminishing everything about Matariki. They don't want to use the Māori name. They want to just talk about it being a public holiday as if it's just—takahia kia noa, takahia kia noa [just belittle it, just belittle it].