Hon MARK MITCHELL: Ha, ha! Jo Luxton—it's Jo Luxton, and I admire her, I admire the qualities that she has to get out there and have go, to start a business, and have employees. She's agreeing with me. Everyone down here is trying to shout me down, trying to say that the employers are bad and somehow a second-class citizen—they don't deserve the same respect as the employees themselves. Everyone except Jo Luxton; she understands what I'm saying, which is great.