KAREN CHHOUR (ACT): Thank you, Mr Chair. I'd just like to take a moment to thank the Minister for considering my Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) 188 in regards to getting reports sent to the proper people. There was just one part that you spoke to, where the Minister was talking about the chief executive of Oranga Tamariki unit not being necessary for proposed clause 27(c)(ca) to be included. I just wanted to give a little bit of reasoning behind why I had requested that. Nothing I do when it comes to this bill is "just because". There's a reason behind it and I'm trying to be reasonable with the Supplementary Order Papers that I'm putting up to try and make a difference to this bill.