The other element I think it'll be interesting to hear and see how the select committee deal with is around the scope of this legislation. So where do you draw the line in terms of requirements? And I think, again, my colleague Nicola Grigg talked about some of the domestic elements around timber production in the New Zealand context and where do you draw the line around the different types of trees. I won't get into a full detailed conversation around that, but you can imagine there's a wide range of different types of trees. The scope of that bill will need to consider around that aspect as well, and that will be important.