Hon JUDITH COLLINS: That MP over there, that list MP, doesn't understand that that's a lot of money for a lot of people—particularly in Whanganui. Whanganui has just had this big increase in some of the rental properties. I've just been speaking with the MP for Whanganui, Harete Hipango, and what we know is this: rental properties have not just gone up in one particular block of flats by $50 a week—no, no, no—but by $150 a week, and what's happened? The private tenants have moved out and the tenants who are being funded through Work and Income have moved in at that rate. That's what's happening.