SIMON O'CONNOR (National—Tāmaki): Sorry to leap back to my feet. It is actually quite a genuine question. I think Pharmac is amazing, but having chaired the Health Committee, one of the things that has struck me over that time, and particularly—actually it's probably over 27 years or so now. Pharmac does many, many things well, but it's become somewhat of a sacred cow in this country, and I am, I hope, rightly and genuinely asking, Minister, what other country in the world has replicated the Pharmac model?