MATT DOOCEY: Exactly. Wellington knows best, the bureaucrats know best! They're taking the local out of local people's views. And I take great heart that, in 14 months, we will have a health Minister who actually knows about health: Dr Shane Reti. And he made it very clear today that when National is back in Government, we will bring back local people's views into their health system. Because time and time again, this Government talks a big game, they say they're listening, but then they bring out a pre-prepared solution: centralising. Centralising because they think Wellington knows best, but we know it doesn't.