Hon CARMEL SEPULONI: There is support and healthcare available through the health system. One of the issues that has come up for me, as the Minister discussing and exploring this issue, has been the inconsistency of healthcare and supports available between different DHB catchment areas, and I guess that level of inconsistency isn't necessarily just confined to perineal tears and the treatment of them. I will say that the work that's being done on the health and disability review system and where we are heading is an attempt to address some of those inconsistencies, and we would all like to see that happen. 