The other group I wanted to recognise are the submitters. The things that came out of the submissions weren't what I expected. We had people who were not necessarily talking about their own self-interest. I remember one Indian migrant, a young man who came in and talked about how he saw this bill as important, and he was actually in a category where I would have thought he would have been perhaps more self-interested in being able to allow people to come in on a lesser term. But something that I'm constantly surprised at with the submitters in the select committee is how many people come along with a very genuine lack of self-interest and who put forward a submission that's based much more on inviting the idea of participation in a democracy and putting their best efforts into contributing in an intelligent and logical way. 