Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: I think it's important to remember what the pre-departure testing is all about. It's about reducing the possibility of COVID-19 coming into the country. It's not being used as a diagnostic tool. It is not 100 percent effective. There continues to be a risk—[Interruption] There continues to be a risk of people contracting COVID-19 on their way to New Zealand. Ultimately, the pre-departure testing isn't actually part of our elimination strategy. [Interruption] It's part of our strategy to reduce the number of positive COVID-19 cases that come into the country in the first place. I'd point out that when it comes to our elimination strategy—