So the next question was, "OK, how many of those have some borrowing against their rental property?" And so they went away and they did some more work. "If the number of potentially affected landlords is limited to landlords that have claimed interest expenses, the number of landlords potentially affected by the proposed interest under the new rules is approximately 258,000." I'm hoping you're going to allow me to carry on here. And so 258,000. So the next question was, "So we've got a quarter of a million mum and dad investors who have these properties and who have got some form of borrowing on them: in some cases very little, in some cases, not much." And that was the next question. 