Hon LOUISE UPSTON (National—Taupō): Thank you, Madam Chair. I want to pick up where the Minister in the chair, Carmel Sepuloni, just left off, with her 18,000 houses in four years' time, and just look at some of the numbers in terms of the 350,000 households at the end of June last year—it'll be a lot more than that who were being supported by the accommodation supplement—now the 23,000, on the social housing register. Before we talk about those in the worst circumstances, the 8,500 in motels, of which 4,000 are children—that's clearly a gap. I want to know, given that emergency housing special needs grants—the eligibility was extended from seven days, because the original intention was that they were used for severe cases for up to seven days. That's been extended to three weeks. How many people are now staying beyond the three weeks they are eligible for? The longest, when I asked at the annual review, was two years. I want to know what it is now, and I want to know how many properties, how many motels, the Ministry of Social Development (MSD) have stopped using because they are substandard, and what steps MSD is taking so that more families and more children are being prevented from the harm they are exposed to each and every day they stay in these places.