GREG O'CONNOR (Labour—Ōhāriu): For anyone watching this that thinks that somehow this is about crime and soft on crime, as is being espoused by Nick Smith and his high-pitched little clone Simeon Brown, it is not. What this is is simply about entrenching some legislation. Actually, funnily enough, nobody on the other side has mentioned one of their finest members, the Hon Chris Finlayson, who was opposed to the legislation when it went through in 2010 and remains opposed to it. What this is about—in fact, as touched on by the previous speaker, David Seymour—is victims of crime. It's about future victims of crime. As someone who, as an undercover police officer, lived among criminals, the one thing I'll say is the common denominator among criminals is complete alienation from mainstream society. Voting is not going to be a panacea. It's not a cure all. But, as the previous speaker said, it is going to be a stepping stone into becoming part of mainstream society.