Hon JUDITH COLLINS: So the member on the other side doesn't want to talk about the people who lost their businesses, does he? No. But these are the very people that we're told that this bill is going to help, that it's going to suddenly have some sense in the marketplace. But we know, and we've known for a long time, that supermarkets have been in a very privileged position, but they've been more so since the first of the lockdowns. That's because they were given special privileges that other providers of food couldn't have, or, actually, just didn't have. They could have had it, but they didn't have it because this big Government is more comfortable dealing with big business rather than small businesses, owner occupied, people who had to pay their rent, whether they had money or not. What help they got was very little and they could have done with being able to open their doors rather than having their stock in landfill, which is what actually happened. 