Hon SCOTT SIMPSON: Now, I guess the—yeah, exactly; Nicola Grigg's so right to say that's just detail. Of course, this socialist Labour Government, they aren't remotely interested in detail. If there's anything that an employer might pay for, then it's not sacrosanct from this Government. They seem to think that employers and business people have an unlimited, infinite capacity to pay for their hare-brained ideas. Look, what happens in the real world—and some of us have been in business; some of us have been employees and employers, and we know that, actually, in the real world, these sorts of matters are sorted out. They are sorted out on a sensible, rational basis between good-faith employees and employers, and these matters are settled. That's the way it has always operated. It's a question of give and take. It occurs up and down the country every day of the week.