For true pay parity to be implemented and sustained, ECE sectors need to be able to start, as kindergarten and school teachers do, on pay steps that reflect their qualifications and experience, then progressively advance through the steps annually. The pay varies wildly across the ECE sector—we know that. And while in schools there's a clear, transparent pay scale that means teachers with the same experience, responsibilities, and qualifications receive the same pay and advance up the scale every year, teachers' submissions on this bill made it clear that they want the same fairness in ECE. And that gap is huge. I keep reflecting on this press release that came out last week from the NZEI, where they did a bit of—in this quote in particular, it says, "NZEI Te Riu Roa estimates that within 10 years, an ECE teacher starting their career today will on average have been paid more than $100,000 less than their colleagues in kindergarten unless the Government accelerates pay parity."—$100,000, that's massive. So this first step must be followed up by consecutive steps.