Hon KIRITAPU ALLAN: I agree with the member that the conservation law that governs some of our taonga species, across the board, I consider, is inadequate, it's outdated, and it needs some fundamental reform. That, of course, needs to be done in partnership with communities at place and it will take some time. We have undertaken work since I have taken office, working in collaboration with a number of environmental non-governmental organisations to do the fundamental first review work that needs to be done of the conservation law environment. With respect to the natural and built environments, and the resource management reforms more generally, my colleague the Minister Parker and myself are ardent advocates for biodiversity and will ensure that that's a key linchpin in the reforms ahead.