So the young woman that the Opposition member writes off as a Greenpeace activist actually has a Master's in ecological economics. So I could say that is actually someone that is more than capable of sitting on a technical reference group that is appraising whether or not this makes sense both from an environmental and a business point of view. The other young woman that the member has chosen to target with her questioning is Isla Day, who was part of the School Strike 4 Climate. Isla is actually studying physical geography and biomedical science. She is a member of the Wellington City Council Environmental Reference Group. 