There was also conversation around the issue of remuneration and whether or not they should be paid or not, whether or not they should be paid from the existing pool. You see, for a long time Māori that have advised on regional councils, on local councils have been there by nature of the cup of tea and scones that happens after the meeting. They're milked for all of their information, their historical knowledge, their mātauranga Māori, and what did they get for it? For many years they got a cup of tea and some scones. Long are those days gone. They are well gone and it's time to start remunerating Māori that are sitting around those decision-making tables over and above the tea and scones that for so long our people had to put up with. This bill changes that. 