I don't think anyone would quibble with the fact that, ultimately, we do need to have people given the power, if necessary, to do that. But to then expect that security officer, who I suppose we might refer to as a bouncer in a courtroom setting, and I don't mean to diminish the importance of the role by saying that—either role, in fact, whether at a courtroom door or a nightclub door. But the fact of the matter is these are important rights. They're fundamental rights for New Zealanders to attend court, all things being equal, where other legitimate restrictions on open justice do not apply. 