I really do want to caution people in this House and outside of the House who are characterising and making assumptions about the reasons that people have terminations after 20 weeks, and let them know that I've spoken to some families who have been listening to this debate, who have been through that situation in times where they were trying to save their own life or were in an unenviable situation around their pregnancy. The question they asked was: "Why do they hate us? Why do they hate us for doing what we needed to do?" I want people to know that those comments are experienced as shaming, whether that is what you intend or not, those members.