They never took that up, but what they did take up—if you look at the copyright to the New Zealand COVID Tracer app, you see two teams, the Ministry of Health and the Privacy Commission, and then two individuals, David Britten, a 24-year-old PhD student who actually did a prototype on the QR scan first of all, and Alan Chew, who built the core app. Both of them were ready in early April. The ministry approached Alan Chew in early April, when he offered it free, and took it up. They heard nothing more from then onwards until about six weeks later, when finally it was deployed. When they saw what their work had turned into, they were aghast. The shape and functions of the app was nothing that they had given to the ministry. I mean no disrespect to the team of developers inside the ministry, but sometimes you need to collaborate with professional expertise outside, and that did not happen. Well, one of the developers who wrote the core of the code said, "I am of the view that the app is entirely insufficient for businesses to meet their contact tracing obligations". What a lost opportunity that was. So we can look backwards and say it was deployed too late—OK, it was. 