Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: I can confirm there's been a global pandemic, and, in light of that, the Government has indeed taken on more debt in order to support New Zealanders' lives and livelihoods through that. We continue to have one of the lowest levels of net debt in the world—lower than Australia, lower than the UK, lower than the US, lower than the euro area. We will continue to borrow where we need to. In answer to the second part of the member's question, he should actually take a look. Money has already being provisioned for Wellington's rapid transit and also for parts of the Auckland rapid transit as well.