From my point of view, part of the crisis that we saw in public transport—particularly around bus drivers and their wages and conditions in the whole Wellington region over the last few years—is a direct result of that PTOM, because what happens is it's a race to the bottom. It's a race to the bottom for contractors, who then cherry-pick the most economically viable routes, and guess what? The Flyer route from the Hutt Valley to the airport was not perceived as being as economically viable, and so that is the one where people are failing to get a public service. That is where we need to be looking at a better model for the future. 