Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: Can I thank the member for his question and the opportunity to remind the House of the people that we are talking about here, which includes the thousand extra people employed by the Ministry of Social Development to, among other things, provide the wage subsidy that kept hundreds of thousands of New Zealanders in work; the 434 people recruited by the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment who are protecting our border from COVID-19; the 328 extra people employed by the Ministry for Primary Industries to deal with, among other things, Mycoplasma bovis, critical to our primary industries; 609 additional people employed by Oranga Tamariki, who are mostly social workers dealing with our most vulnerable.