This is not about looking after māmā and pēpi and tamariki's wellbeing. This is not about supporting them into work, actually, and it's not sustainable. Rather, this is going to ensure that those māmās stay and remain on benefit. It's harmful to the sole parent and to the children but, ultimately, to our society as a whole. We deal with the aftermath of what that looks like for those māmās and those pēpis and that whānau. 