Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: With the Health New Zealand reforms, there is opportunity for us to ensure that we are better utilising our tertiary system to overcome the inefficiencies that we have had. The member may not be aware, but individual DHBs operate, often, using different categorisation and criteria to prioritise planned care. That in itself creates inefficiencies. We don't operate as a combined network of tertiary care; we need to. That is what the Health New Zealand reforms are about, that is what these clinicians will support, and if the member is not aware of the differences between the way that our DHBs have worked to date, then I suggest the member get a briefing.