Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: I would have thought the member's background in education previously, within past Governments, would have meant that he'd know the Teachers Council is independent. It is not Government policy to make te reo Māori compulsory for teacher employment in New Zealand. However, of course I would have thought, given the member just acknowledged Tā Toby he would want to encourage greater understanding and learning of te reo in this country.