Then the final ignominy, which of course is making my counterpart look down at the floor, is that he stands up here and says that this is the appropriate purview of the Environment Committee. Goodness me! Forestry, agriculture—Mr Jones, they're the same industry. There is no reason for this to go to the Environment Committee. I mean, the Primary Production Committee, for a start, is superbly chaired. I don't think there's a better chair that we've ever seen in primary production. To be fair, there's some reasonable contributions from the other side. Every now and then Kiri Allan gives us the impression that, you know, she's on the same—