Hon ANDREW LITTLE: What I can help that member with is to point out that we are in the third year of a global pandemic that has put extraordinary pressure on our health system and every health system. And so in 2020, we saw waiting lists grow, and then as a consequence of the $282.5 million that this Government allocated, we saw waiting lists come back. Then we had the Delta outbreak at the end of last year, the Omicron outbreak at the beginning of this year, and further pressure this winter, and that has put further pressure on waiting lists. What I'm very pleased about is that Te Whatu Ora Health New Zealand, when they were in their interim phase, established a clinical leadership team led by Andrew Connolly to get to work on the waiting lists, and last week the chief executive of Te Whatu Ora Health New Zealand issued a directive to all hospital leaders on a series of measures that they must take to reduce waiting lists. I'm satisfied that everything that can be done is being done.