Dr EMILY HENDERSON (Labour—Whangārei): E te Māngai o te Whare, tēnā koe. I also rise to take a brief call. My friend, flatmate, and neighbouring electorate MP in Northland has outlined the tribunals. This is a bill which does a small but important job. It takes a number of tribunals, from the Disputes Tribunal to the Human Rights Tribunal, and it takes them out from under the Cabinet Fees Framework and puts them into the independent Remuneration Authority. It sounds not much, but it is in fact the defence of one of the pillars of democracy, which is the independence of our judiciary. It is incredibly important that our judiciary remain free from political influence. And I say that to all of those who occasionally ring me and ask why it is that our Government has not pushed for certain penalties when judges bring them down. The reason is if we are able to influence the judiciary, then that way lies the demise of democracy, and we see all over the world today the situation where democracy is being eroded because it is too little regarded, too much taken for granted, and that is no way to maintain something.