However, in the interests of openness and transparency, the National Party is supporting this, because there is no strong argument not to, but the reality is that there are other ways of ensuring that there is openness and transparency. They can declare their interests. There is a requirement to set up good templates within councils, which most have done. And those that haven't, there would have been easier ways of ensuring that they were compliant with that requirement that they have no interest greater than that of the general public. But in the meantime, this is going through and I commend it to the House.