If ever there's a difference between what this side of the House, this coalition Government, advocates for, and it's for forestry—I congratulate my colleague, the New Zealand First member the Hon Shane Jones, because what he did was finally set up Te Uru Rākau, a ministry for forestry. I was in this House when Dr the Hon Lockwood Smith proclaimed huge savings—if I can remember, it was $4 million a year—to merge agriculture and forestry. He thought of all the efficiencies, and what that did was that forestry got lost from that time onwards. It got absolutely ignored, and so this coalition Government came in and set up Te Uru Rākau to advocate.