Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS: I think I gave quite a thorough answer to the initial question—that, in fact, what I'm saying is there are a range of domains that that is measured across. So I am going to go through some of those raw numbers in terms of that. So in 2013, the year in which Callaghan Innovation was established, 57.73 was our weighted number. That did jump slightly in 2014 to 75.09 but then did decline all the way through to the beginning of 2018 to 67.4. What we have seen over the years 2019 to 2020 is 68.12 and 68.08. I think what all members of this House, regardless of what side they sit on, should be dedicated to is the fact that New Zealand has a woeful percentage of GDP expenditure, and that is something that this Government has seen real movement on, unlike the previous Government.