I want to put on record, for the people who have just started listening to this debate: this is about the oversight of the Oranga Tamariki system and the Children and Young People's Commission. Of any organisation the Government is responsible for, the oversight of Oranga Tamariki has to be the priority, and to do this in this manner is disgraceful. Stakeholders asked for time; members of Parliament asked for time; other select committee members from Labour ignored it. The Minister didn't support the efforts of the stakeholders to ask for more time to do this thoroughly. And, actually, one of the requests from many of us, which still is on the table, is why do all of this, why confuse all of this, with changes that aren't really changes, when the report of the royal commission into State abuse hasn't come back?