First of all, I was wondering whether unions have told the Minister what increases were needed to maintain the 2017 value, and if so, what was that amount? The reason why I'm asking is because my colleague Jan Logie did table an amendment which is basically aiming to lift the minimum rates of pay in the principal Act by $7 per hour compared to the 2021-22 rates in Schedule 2, clause 2. We did note that the current rates proposed in the bill equate to a 3 percent increase from the 2021-22 year, which does not even match inflation. So those do present a significant increase, and these rates that we put in the tabled amendment were endorsed by the PSA, E tū, and New Zealand Nurses Organisation (NZNO) members, and they represent the increase that support and care workers are seeking. So, keen to understand what conversations he's had with unions to reach the rate that is presented in this bill, which ultimately reflect a 70c increase. The other question I had is: how do these pay rates take into account the living costs indexation in clause 3 of Schedule 2 of the principal Act? Also, keen to know what percentage increase will support workers get compared to their current pay, noting this pay takes into account the 2021 indexation.