Now, Maureen Pugh, the member Greg O'Connor has spoken of his community connection and I too will speak of my community connection to the West Coast of the South Island. So my family comes from the West Coast of the South Island, both sides of the family. So we were miners, we were publicans—you'll like that, Kieran McAnulty: we were publicans—and we were millers, so we owned mills. So forestry and the milling of the beautiful beach forests, etc., is something that has a long history in my family. I think the member Greg O'Connor also said this: that we don't need to be ashamed of where we've come from, even if we ourselves would not make those choices going forward now.