CHRIS PENK (National—Helensville): Thank you very much, Mr Speaker. I acknowledge the gallantry, actually, of the Minister for Veterans, in both the technical parliamentary sense of that phrase but also in relation to the conduct of the Government parties in relation to this legislation. The Minister has highlighted already today, and I have acknowledged, the fact that there is a larger picture at play. We start by acknowledging that veterans have served our country and so it's appropriate that our country serves veterans. 