I also think that it's really important that we do start to unpack the reality of sustainability of public interest journalism, because whilst the National Party were talking about things that they want to see more of in the news, the likes of these upbeat views, the reality is that there is always a tension between what some of us are going to see as important for the sake of people to understand what's happening inside of our democracy—for example, the Election Access Fund Bill, which, I think, was one of the best pieces of legislation passed through this place in recent years did not receive anywhere near as much coverage as, for example, the likes of the cannabis referendum debate. That, again, goes to, perhaps, some of those tensions between the things that are controversial and the things that are important—of course they're not mutually exclusive but, once again, it raises the reality that members of Parliament should not be interfering in the types of content that a public media is producing. Again, I think that that really goes to the heart of contributions from the National Party, who do not quite seem clear on whether they want more or less intervention or dictation.