Hon ANDREW LITTLE: That remains to be seen, and, of course, New Zealanders going to Australia go in with their eyes open, and they know that when they go to work in Australia they don't have the same rights to residency as Australians get working here. They don't get the same rights from the National Disability Insurance Scheme over there that workers here get under our ACC scheme. Anybody going from New Zealand to work in Australia does not have the same education rights for their children as would happen in New Zealand, and there are a range of other conditions that make Australia a challenging place to secure a workforce. Of course, that is a country—particularly in New South Wales and Victoria—whose health systems were under such extreme pressure that they were in fact overwhelmed by COVID, something that didn't happen in New Zealand.