HARETE HIPANGO (National): I rise to take a call on this at rather short notice, but it just happens to be coincidental that on the weekend—little did I know that I'd be speaking on such an issue—I was reflecting with whanaunga Dame Tari back home. We were sitting on the porch in the sun like two old kuia, reflecting on how our old people used to deal with these issues. We were talking about how our people—New Zealanders and Māori also—have become locked in to this mentality of welfarism and State dependency and the loss of mana motuhake. Literally, the mana is the dignity that our people have and had, and the motuhake; the ability to stand upright and independent in the most trying and hardship of times. Here I am before the House, addressing, those who are listening in, the second reading of the Social Security (Subsequent Child Policy Removal) Amendment Bill.