Much has been made in this debate and during the course of the passage of the bill through select committee about gangs and the threats that they pose, and how this is going to resolve that. I just want to point out that I've been in this House a wee while and I've heard this debate when National's been on this side of the House and Labour on that side; propositions by the late Rt Hon Mike Moore when he fought against gangs, for tougher legislation on gangs when he was part of Labour in Opposition and he met with a tin ear from National. I have been on those benches myself proposing a suppression of gangs bill and having it turned down by the same Labour Party because they thought it was too tough. Then I have sat there and watched the National Party join with Mr Stuart Nash when he was in Opposition and support a select committee inquiry that, of all things, recommended a registration system of firearms, and all of this in the name of reducing gang violence.