Hon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (National): Thank you, Madam Chair, and I appreciate the Minister's comments. I agree about the sticks and stones comments—actually, that wasn't quite what I was intending to do. There is no doubt words harm, and the Minister and I may have a different view at the margin about where the border between offensive but lawful speech and words, and the margin of unlawful speech might be. We'll have that conversation later in the year, probably, when the work on freedom of speech issues is debated further in the House—