Now, those days and those times that were selected coincided with the times that the ECEs were open. Given the staff shortages, it's no wonder that we only managed to hear from 14 of the submitters, who mostly spoke against the bill. I want to refer to just some of the comments from the submitters speaking on the time frames. Firstly, the Early Childhood Council said, "We are concerned that the Amendment Bill has been designed and presented without adequate consultation with the ECE sector." And they also commented on the time that centres had to submit on the bill. We mentioned this at the first reading. We said that the sector had not been consulted, and the Minister disagreed and said, "No, that's not true. I've consulted widely about pay parity." Indeed, he has consulted widely about pay parity, but he did not consult on this particular bill. The Early Childhood Council and many of the centres mentioned the fact that they were blindsided by this bill—they had no idea that it was coming—and then 14 days to get their thoughts together, to understand the bill, and to submit wasn't enough time. Now, the Early Childhood Council mentioned that, as did a number of other submitters. 