Hon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister of Health): To the first part of the question, the purpose of the health system indicators is to measure how the health system is operating as a whole. Every indicator relates to system-wide decision-making, except for the one relating to mental health treatment for young people because there is a particular critical need in this area right now. The member's question doesn't distinguish between targets, which encourage perverse outcomes that serve the needs of health providers rather than patients or the population they are part of, and the health indicators framework, which deals with the system-wide performance. Just to explain that: we all want fewer Kiwi kids being admitted to hospital for conditions which are preventable or that we manage through primary community care. The complexity is the significant variation in the practice leading to hospitalisation. So, for example, respiratory problems may be more prevalent in regions where it is colder or where there are higher rates of deprivation. The interventions by the health system in colder or more deprive d areas should be different to areas where other conditions are more prevalent. That is what the indicators will show. It's how we will end the postcode lottery and it's why we have the childhood ambulatory sensitive hospitalisations indicator. To the second part of the question, maintaining waiting lists for cancer management is the responsibility of district health boards. All DHBs collect this information in a different way. This means that an accurate national view is not possible at this time. This inconsistency is why we have established Te Aho o Te Kahu, the Cancer Control Agency, and it is why we are reforming the hospital system across the board. However, what I can report is that the Minister of Health's faster cancer treatment initiative aims to have 90 percent of patients receive their first cancer treatment, or rather management, within 62 days of being referred, and for the 2020-21 financial year quarter three—that is to say, the quarter ending 30 April this year—the national result is 85 percent.