So I'm keen to tease out from the Minister just why he's taken a policy position not to explore, at this point in time, the proposal put to the select committee, for instance, by New Zealand Carbon Farming Group, who made some pretty generous offers in terms of being able to use finance that had been generated through offset funding, for instance, when a company—just for an example, maybe Air New Zealand. If the Minister was to tick the right box when he purchases his Air New Zealand ticket, he can claim or pay an offset fee. Those offset fees get collected somewhere and eventually get used to plant a tree somewhere. That's, essentially, where organisations, such as Mark Patterson has been talking about, derive their income stream.