Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: I'm going to, before I answer this question, read out a statement from Statistics New Zealand that was issued in April 2019, when the child poverty stats were referenced: "we emphasise the need to look at the general trend over time and caution against reaching definitive conclusions from reported year-on-year changes." That is why in the legislation, which both sides of the House voted for, we adopted a baseline year—that's 2017/18. We then measure our changes against that, and against that we've seen a reduction against all nine measures.