I just want to go back to the forestry industry. I don't think there's anyone more enthusiastic about the forestry industry than I am, and I certainly think it's got great potential for New Zealand in the future. But I just do want to touch on the issue I raised with respect to what happens as we transition from one land-use type to another, particularly a land-use type where there's no income for many, many years. That could be very challenging for New Zealand if we don't get the balance of this right in the short term; long term, it might be quite different. 