ERICA STANFORD: —the Minister—great! No, I wanted to ask the Minister about Reading Recovery. As we know at the moment, Reading Recovery is a three-tier intervention that's based on the whole-word approach, the three-cueing system. So it's very much that sort of system. Jan Tinetti, in her interview with Jack Tame, said that the evidence suggests that we use a more structured approach to teaching literacy, like structured literacy, and then went on to say that we should rename Reading Recovery and teach it in a way that is more of a structured literacy approach. 