Hon JULIE ANNE GENTER (Green): I thank the Minister. Just in slight reply, my understanding is that 80 percent of the people supplying into New Zealand are supplying into Australia, where they would be required to get the third-party independent testing to show that it's safe. So I'm just curious about the assertion that it would raise costs in some way to ensure that we're eliminating from our market any products that might be leaching lead into drinking water. I don't know a single parent who would say that they prefer to save money and cause their child irreversible brain damage by having public health impacts.