Well, it turns out that he actually hadn't really done that. I asked him, and, again, this is only three hours ago, so it's fresh but it bears repeating: what consultation, if any, and with whom, did the Government take on the commercial tenancy measures announced yesterday? He said that small business owners had talked to him and that they were feeling the impact of the Government's alert level measures, and he's absolutely right—they are. But just because people are affected by one thing, doesn't mean it's right to punish another group of people. The Minister then said that the Ministry of Justice met with the likes of the New Zealand Law Society and the Auckland District Law Society, and he wasn't able to say that they had spoken to anybody who was a lessor. So when asked, "Who have you consulted?", the Minister couldn't come back and say, "Yes, we've spoken to people who are actually the people leasing out their property." I think that's a real shame, because we've got the Minister saying he'd like to hear other people's views but also that he hasn't heard from a whole half of this condition. So he's talked to the Law Society. He's talked to the Auckland District Law Society, and I think it's worth talking to them. He didn't tell us, by the way, what sort of advice he got. I guess that will have to come out under an Official Information Act (OIA) request.