Hon CHRIS HIPKINS (Minister for COVID-19 Response): I think the member, to some extent, in his comments around freedoms, highlighted how fortunate New Zealanders have been. When it comes to things like school camps, festivals and events, and so on, we're one of the only countries in the world that's doing those things at the moment. We're one of the only countries in the world that actually has an events industry thriving at the moment. While I'm not saying that it's not challenging for them—it absolutely is—they are certainly doing a lot better than their counterparts in just about every other country around the world.