In any event, I go back to the point I made before: members who were in the previous Government voted for this. It might've been a member's bill, but the National Party unanimously supported it when they were in Government, as a member's bill, and in 2010, when the prison population was only 7,500, the law change at that time that they supported did nothing to stop the prison population rising to nearly 11,000. So taking away that this right to vote for this small proportion of prisoners does not make it better for victims, does not reduce the number of victims. So let's not kid ourselves that that somehow is a magic answer to the problem of victims of crime. 