We won't sit on our hands and take the same failed approach as the National Party of demonising people with addiction issues and taking an alarmist and utterly wrong approach to the meth issue. What we'll do is we'll take advice. We will build on knowledge. And the programme that gave rise to this alarmism, it was advised by the Ministry of Justice, Corrections, Te Puni Kōkiri, the Ministry of Education, Police, Treasury, Oranga Tamariki, and the Chief Science Adviser. That is a list of a lot of thoughtful people who said, "Do it. It'll work." And you know what? Here's the thing, Mr Brown. It did work. It's recognised that it had a very high success rate. News flash: people who have had addiction problems can help people with addiction problems. People like you and me, Mr Brown, cannot enter into these communities. We can't communicate. We can't connect. We need people in those communities who have been there, who can connect. And that's not you and me. Sure, we need to be tough on crime, but what we really need to be is tough on the drivers of crime. If we're just throwing people into prison for their broken addictions, we will perpetrate it. We know for a fact that as soon as we send someone to prison, the likelihood of them going there again escalates dramatically. But that's the answer of Mr Brown: don't try anything new. Just take a broken system and perpetrate it again.