But then we go back to our question of how we create a prosperous society where people feel safe. Well, one thing that's helpful—other than proportional democratic representation—is a belief among the people of New Zealand that the processes to which they're subject are democratic. We've heard from people in favour of this bill that the current situation is not democratic, because only 5 percent of people can overturn a decision of the elected majority. But they, I hope, know that that's not true—that doesn't describe the current situation at all. The current situation is that 5 percent of electors in a particular council have to sign a petition to have a referendum, and then everybody can vote. And then only a majority of everybody can overturn it, so it's not 5 percent; it's a majority of people who vote that can overturn the decision of elected representatives, and, actually, it's a majority of those who vote who elect the councils, depending on the exact electoral system that council has. So the idea that there's something undemocratic here is completely untrue. So it can't be that problem. 