These offenders/patients, again, went on into the system and often no one knew. I know that, again, someone I was involved with, I thought they were in care for the rest of their living days. I, myself, became aware that they were actually on home leave—this from a case I'd been involved in. That was something of a surprise. I was a professional involved and I can just imagine what any family member who had known and been in that shopping centre in Porirua and seen that person would have felt.