Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: I've already given the member the numbers. They are the numbers based on the target set in the Child Poverty Reduction Act—a piece of legislation, I might say, passed across this House almost unanimously. The member and members on the other side of the House would be very well advised to ask themselves, if there were measures such as the Families Package that they voted against, where we would be in terms of the number in child poverty were they in charge. 