But the other thing the Minister pointed out was the extraordinarily challenging times we are in at the moment with respect to trade internationally, and one only has to walk down to the wharf in Wellington, as I did this morning, and see the enormous number of logs sitting on the wharf—and I counted 17 logging trucks turning up at the port this morning—and not a log ship in sight. So that really just points out the logistical challenges that we have with trade at the moment in New Zealand.