The second one is the Minister talked about high country farmers looking forward to having lots of visits. I do wonder whether he read or listened to or talked to Federated Farmers, for example, who said in their submission, the bill "fundamentally changes the nature of the relationship between the Crown as lessor, and the leaseholder. The existing contractual relationship based on trust and reciprocity, would be replaced by an approach of regulation [policing] and enforcement … [This diminishes] the future constructiveness and openness of relationships … It reduces the certainty of leases and the incentivisation to continue to invest and enhance environmental outcomes given no accompanying or reciprocal ability to address changing pastoral needs as provided for."