I acknowledge, as with the Minister, that we as we need to do more in regards to how we fund and finance infrastructure over the long term: plan, commission, and actually, importantly, deliver that infrastructure. But if that is the problem, and if that is the one thing that we're trying to fix, why are we going about creating these mega-entities—centralised bureaucracy, hiring of all name of things. Leading into that point that I articulated right at the start, around the fact that that there's huge levels of turnover at local government; central Government entities, are, in effect, poaching staff out of local government at the moment, sometimes with 30 percent premium on salary. And so, therefore, those staff coming out of our local communities and local government is weakening our local government capability. So why did it have to be four entities and why was it dictated around that? 