I challenged the Minister and the ministry to make good with the common-sense claim that, as we farmers know, no crop in the winter scenario would ever germinate in under 11 degrees. Now, I'm not even sure if the Minister is aware of that, but at that time of the year most of Southland is under snow. So I'd like to see how that would work. I think this Government's completely out of touch with the regional activity at a regional level. Government's just got bloated and it simply needs to be handed back to council to rectify these problems. 