Hon ANDREW LITTLE: One of the reasons why pandemics cause disruptions to health services, particularly at the height of an outbreak, such as we saw from 17 August, or 18 August, for a period where we were all in level 4 lockdown, is that it is simply unsafe for people to turn up to hospital—unsafe for them, unsafe for their staff—until the outbreak is under control. So there is deferral of planned care. That is in everybody's best interests. The unexpected increase in mortality would be much greater if we'd just carried on as if nothing had happened, and a whole bunch of people turned up to hospital and both themselves and hospital staff got infected.