Hon STUART NASH: Minister Hipkins actually released an apprenticeship and training package worth about $450 million. I think that what we have done in terms of allowing New Zealanders to re-engage with business, to retrain, to get back on the horse, so to speak, has been phenomenal. So for that member to suggest that we have done nothing in terms of allowing small businesses to grow, for workers to become engaged in the economy, to retrain, to train, and get back into work—I will note one thing: that member is the fourth small business spokesperson, so I suppose we've got to give him a little bit of latitude.