So we have that debt side. We also have the money printing that went on at the Reserve Bank. Now, that was one of the fifth-biggest monetary policy responses in the world. So we hit both accelerators hard; we hit the fiscal borrowing and we hit the money printing hard in a way that there isn't much precedent for around the world. So my question for the Minister of Finance is about the liabilities for the Crown, resulting from that money printing. These Estimates show that during 2020 and 2021, $3.1 billion was expensed to the Crown to recognise the liabilities arising from the indemnities that the Minister of Finance signed off for both large-scale asset purchases—that is around $54 billion worth of bond buying, otherwise colloquially explained as "money printing"—and the Business Finance Guarantee Scheme of $60 million. My question for the Minister of Finance is: did he consider that the interest rate differential could be such that the liabilities to New Zealand taxpayers would get this large, and what does that mean for the Crown accounts?