CHRISTOPHER LUXON (National—Botany): Minister, thank you for the answer before around He Puapua. I guess I'm sort of reminded of that quote that's attributed to Dame Whina Cooper which says "If you walk slowly, you take the old people with you; if you walk fast, you lose them". I think the bottom line here is that we've seen Māori wards done under urgency, and not taking the New Zealand people with them. 