I want to mention the great Annette Sykes as well, who talked to us about one of her first trips down to Wellington, where she was invited down by Bruce Gregory, as we were trying to make Māori an official language. She was brought down to help draft up the bill, so that she did. But she told us that in her experience, she finally understood what this place was all about. She finally understood that if you were given a 10-minute speaking slot, that, actually, you should only take five minutes of that and leave five minutes for questions afterwards. But what she also noted in the meeting was the compassion of the members that were sitting around the table. 