CHRIS PENK (National—Kaipara ki Mahurangi): Thank you, Madam Chair. Again, I must confess to a contribution that will be reasonably narrow in its nature. Again, I don't profess to be an expert in the bigger-picture policy matters. I do understand, I think reasonably well, the different factors being played out. I look forward to the Minister explaining those further and those all around the Chamber interrogating him on those, too.