I'd also like to ask the Minister in the chair, Andrew Little, about new section 35DH, the amendments that would say, "An employee or a volunteer of a service provider is not liable for anything they do or fail to do in the course of the performance". In the scenario where some drugs are tested and it turns out they're bad and somebody is harmed by taking them but the service provider has in some way failed in their duty, are they liable under the Health and Safety at Work Act? Because surely they're a person conducting a business or undertaking (PCBU). Now, this leads to an interesting question: is there a carve-out? Because a lot of people up and down this country would love a carve-out from the liabilities of the Health and Safety at Work Act. Being a PCBU, if you're a director, if you're somebody on one of these service providers, if you're on the board of KnowYourStuffNZ, you'd want to know that you are not going to be liable for some kid that takes some drugs. You tell them—you don't communicate properly, whatever, and they harm themselves—have you taken all reasonably practicable steps? Because that's the bar that people operating farms and businesses up and down this country face.