Hon ANDREW LITTLE: Well, I remind that member that the backlog he talks about today is a consequence of the COVID pandemic that started in February 2021, which was not known about in the earlier part of 2020, when the MMR vaccination catch-up campaign was arranged. That catch-up campaign would not have been necessary if the previous Government had listened to the advice that they got in 2014 and in 2017. But once again we have the party on the Opposition benches who is the party of anti - quality public health services, compared to this Government, which invests in quality public health services.