Hon EUGENIE SAGE: I have heard estimates of around $14 million, but I would note that the borders are now closed, so the commercial trophy hunting industry does not have a lot of clients. I would also note that the national parks that she and the Tahr Foundation have been worried about, in the last five years there was an average of only 65 bull tahr which were shot as commercial trophy animals, and so 65 tahr in national parks is a niche industry, not a major one.