When we start talking about culverts and we start talking about bridges, I recall, as the Mayor of Carterton, asking for a review of our asset management programme, and I particularly wanted some attention around culverts and bridges. Now, being a rural council, a district council, it was quite astonishing for me to learn we had over 2,500, and Carterton's one of the smallest councils—I think third to smallest council in the country. We had 2,500 bridges and culverts. And I know Jacqui Dean who's been in local government herself is nodding her head there. The cost of replacing or upgrading those by a little council with a very small rating base was astronomical. 