Just in my closing moments, I was wondering what I could offer to this conversation—probably two conversations. I've probably got time for one conversation. I was talking to a friend of mine who is a Sami, and they're the indigenous peoples—and they are pastoralists; they have a very close relationship with reindeer. They go across Norway, Finland, and into Russia. I talked to her because I was interested in terms of their way that they look after their animals and their relationship with their animals as well. Because even though we've had agriculture here in the way that we see it in the last couple of hundred years max—100 to 200 years—the Sami people have been looking after reindeer for 10,000 years.