I want to again use the words of VOYCE Whakarongo Mai—they were set up when the original Ministry for Vulnerable Children, which is now Oranga Tamariki, was created. They were set up to make sure their voice, the voice of care-experienced young New Zealanders, was carried through so that we interrupt these years of abuse and mistreatment for those children. This is what they say: "Behold the breath of life. We ask all to listen and pay heed to the words of warning of the youth who strongly oppose the following bill, the Oversight of the Oranga Tamariki System and the Children and Young Persons Commission Bill." That is the voice of VOYCE. They haven't been listened to, they should have been, and this is a sad day for this Parliament.