Dr DUNCAN WEBB (Labour—Christchurch Central): Oh, thank you, Mr Speaker. I thought I would take this call, in light of the fact that Te Paati Māori has chosen not to take their call, and support the excellent contribution of Camilla Belich, who points out that it's absolutely normal for a professional body to charge its members fully for all of the services it provides. And by a quirk of the law, there are only limited functions that could be charged for here and this is a simple tidy up. I'm surprised the National Party is taking that position, because it's a position which existed under its own watch. It's a simple tidy up. And as for the retrospectivity, they might want to read a bit more carefully, because it only relates to the ability to hold on to the money and credit it to a new fee rather than going through a complex refund process. 