KAREN CHHOUR (ACT): Thank you, Mr Speaker. I stand today to talk on a topic that most people try to avoid. It's not that society doesn't care about suicide and the effects it has on our communities; it's that many just don't know what to say. I believe as a country we have become far better at talking about these issues. Only a few years ago, it would have been unheard of to be having a debate like this. Suicide was a word that made people feel shame. It was a topic not many people understood. Now, thanks to people like John Kirwan and Mike King and countless more figures in our communities and across this country, we have a better understanding of how mental illness affects people, and, hopefully, we've been able to get the message out that there is no shame in asking for help.