Now, people say that network was uneconomic. You know what? When I talk to local business owners in Gisborne, they said they wanted to use that rail line, they had stock they wanted to put on those carriages, but you know what was lacking? The carriages. There were not enough wagons and carriages to put the freight and stock on it to move it. It was deliberately, systematically underfunded, de-invested, and I would actually say sabotaged by that side who has an anti-rail ideology; they would rather put on a pedestal their mates in the Road Transport Forum New Zealand and their profits over an integrated, smart transport network.