Hon CHRIS HIPKINS (Minister of Health): Look, I think, again, the issue the member raises is a really serious one. We've got a challenge, I think, in New Zealand around genuinely inclusive education. Some schools go out of their way to be inclusive, and they become what we colloquially term "magnet schools" where parents, if they've got kids who've got additional needs, seek out the schools who make their kids feel welcome and go to the ends of the earth to cater for those kids, and I take my hat off to those schools. But I think every school should be making that effort, and they don't, and that's the problem. And it's not something that we should tolerate.