Hon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (National): I thank the Minister—in which case the next few minutes will be an academic discussion rather than a substantive one. I agree with most of what the Minister said. We don't make law for the nine times out of 10. We are not actually making law for the times when respectful, loving conversations are held between parent and child, engaging with a medical practitioner about what's possible; we're talking about the exception. And I do speak with some experience here, because, as a former chief executive of a surgical hospital, we had very strict policies around the granting of consent.