The second idea is that the wording is too unclear in the bill and that it creates too much confusion. But the definition is clear: conversion practices are the most severe, and they cause the most serious harm. Conversion practices and the sort of serious harm they cause are severe depression and anxiety, isolation and alienation, and increased feelings of shame and grief. They also cause difficulty with forming relationships, they might cause substance abuse, and there is a possible risk of suicide attached. Some research identifies survivors of conversion practices as experiencing symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder, and that is what the bill has set out to address. It's not about using the wrong pronouns. It's not about engaging in conversations with peers where you use the wrong terms. This is about the harm done to people, predominantly young people—predominantly people who are not used to having their identities affirmed in the first place.