Hon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister of Justice): Thank you, Mr Chair. I take this opportunity just to respond to some of the points raised in debate so far. Again, as I have previously, I acknowledge this is an issue that is very sensitive to many members and there are members who are participating in this debate who would rather we were abolishing abortion. That is not what this bill is about, and that debate was lost and won—or, in fact, lost—in 1977. We are not having the 1977 debate again. We are talking about taking the 1977 legislation and making it relevant to New Zealand in the 21st century. That's what this debate is about. And it doesn't help, I think, for the reputation of this House, for those, no matter how passionate, like the member Simon O'Connor, to be making assertions and statements that are simply out of step not only with the bill but actually with the current legislation. It does help the debate when we accurately reflect what the current law is, so that we understand what the changes are that are being made, and it's in that spirit I want to respond to some of the points made. 