Hon ANDREW LITTLE: Well, I would say to that mental health professional to read a few more newspapers, listen to the media a little bit more, because they will know it was fully transparent that the ministry was engaging with Te Pūkenga and the three wānanga to negotiate the provision of services to their students, who have a higher profile of Māori and Pacific students, where the gap has been greatest. So the approach that has been taken is a greater equity approach than would otherwise have been the case. 