Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: I disagree with the assertion in the member's question. I can say that the ministry met with Sounds Air on 24 March. Sounds Air provided the ministry further information in the middle of April. The ministry requested further information from them. They had a further discussion with Sounds Air on 20 April; further information was provided by Sounds Air from that date. On 23 April, Sounds Air supplied more information to the ministry. The ministry met with them on 23 April, and they've had further contact on 28 April.