I also want to talk a little bit—and it would be remiss of me not to talk—about the Whānau Ora budget: the $137 million that was given to Whānau Ora. On the day that the Budget was announced, I was interviewed by Māori Television and they asked me what I thought about it. And I said, "Well, it's a great amount of money." However, I could only see two areas where the actual funds had been tagged. One was for commissioning agencies and one was COVID-19, yet there was a glaring gap in between. That ranged between $10 million and $20 million. I said, "Well, what's the plan for that?" I don't there is a plan, only for the Minister to be interviewed by the same Māori Television and asked the same question, and he too agreed that there was no plan. He didn't have a plan for the excess of that funding and that's very, very shameful. It's a competency issue. Is the Minister competent enough to be able to run that particular portfolio? 