We have asked the police continuously about this number of 250,000. There are records of all the import records that show what of these types of rifles would have been imported to New Zealand—it is possible to quantify it—but even if it's within 20,000 or 30,000, if the figure is 250,000 of them in total, that is a staggering amount of them out in New Zealand. This bill—well, actually, the last bill—we actually were lucky enough to get two wins, and National played an instrumental role in that. The first one was as a result of National's direct intervention; we were successful in persuading the committee to reduce the licence period from 10 years to five years.