The evidence is also clear that it won't increase the number of abortions in New Zealand. In fact, the number of abortions has been falling for many years, and that's a good thing. All members of the committee were very clear that we wanted to see a society where every pregnancy was a wanted and loved pregnancy, but we do know that the delays because of the current framework are negatively impacting women significantly, and this bill is about making sure that when termination services are sought, they can be the product of an open and honest conversation, and they can be accessed as early in the pregnancy as that can be obtained.