The other aspects of this bill which were referred to were in regards to the change of the number of councillors at Auckland Council. Well, I don't know, but I come from the private sector. Having 20 people around the table is actually quite a hell of a lot of people to try and, you know, make a decision for an entity that, while large in terms of complexity, is not large and significant in the regards of other business operations. To try and get a degree of consensus from 20, in fairness, is challenging. But the fact that they believe that we need potentially another nine councillors to be sitting around that table to have a bit of "Kumbaya", well, I'm sorry, but I don't buy that for a second. I don't buy it either because, as a ratepayer, who pays the bill for that bureaucracy, right? That additional element around that. 