I'd also like to acknowledge another point that Lisa Tumahai made: "one example of kaitiakitanga and co-governance in action, at nearby Te Waihora (Lake Ellesmere) … partnered with [Environment Canterbury] and other agencies to protect this tribally and nationally significant site and halt the destruction of nearby wetlands." Well, that is also something that many New Zealanders, particularly people like myself who have a passion for ecology, the natural environment, for fishing, for hunting, for just being out there in the bush and soaking up the smells and all of the things that nature gives us—we are also passionate about protecting these places and work in our communities. So we have that in common. 