Hon SHANE JONES (Minister of Forestry): This will be a focused, pithy, and concise speech. But I just want to contrast what our side of the House is doing through this modest—in size—piece of legislation with what the shadow spokesman for finance is saying. So the shadow spokesman for finance is saying that we were wrong to buttress the economy; we were wrong to look after the hundreds of thousands of Kiwis who, as a consequence of COVID, were dislocated from the workforce; we were wrong to underwrite our national airline. So I presume what he is saying is that this level of injection, this $40 billion, is actually not what the economy needs. That is not what Kiwis believe. The reason that this figure is so large, you need look no further than the 11—roughly speaking—billion dollars in protecting jobs.