BARBARA EDMONDS (Labour—Mana): Thank you, Madam Speaker. It's a privilege to be able to talk on this bill, particularly because I was a member of the Finance and Expenditure Committee that scrutinised the bill and listened to the numerous submissions that had come through over that two-week period. And, as Chris Bishop, the previous member who has just sat down, says: it's anecdotal—well, clearly he was not in the submission hearing period, where you had business after business after business say, "It's not anecdotal. Our business is being affected because our landlord is not willing to give us a fair proportion of rent reduction." That is not Koru lounge discussion; those are actual businesses on the ground in New Zealand who are coming to the select committee saying, "We support this."