CHRIS BISHOP: Nicola Willis points out that they want better buses. They absolutely do want better buses, but rail means that—I mean, everyone who jumps on a train from the Hutt or from Johnsonville is probably not in a car, and of course that reduces congestion on our roads and that's a good thing, and it's the same in Auckland. It was National that started the City Rail Link in Auckland, of course, and that's a project that has been somewhat controversial in the House over the last decade or so, but the simple reality is that will add huge capacity to the Auckland rail network, and that will of course help commuters in Auckland and help make Auckland the city that it should be: the 21st century, livable city where people have a variety of different transport choices in order to get around the city.