Our local police in Manurewa have been engaging with certain areas in our town centres—that's the Manurewa strip, the Manukau town centre, and the Clendon shops, which all have a high preponderance of second-hand dealers. What they are finding there is traditional, old-fashioned, beat cop - style policing, where these police are showing their faces at these businesses and are creating relationships which are enduring. That is what is having an effect in building trust with those businesses and allowing police to trial initiatives like the Serial Number Automated Checker, which the chair of the Justice Committee, Ginny Andersen, has spoken about as being an effective method. It would be walked back if this Parliament were to introduce a method of, essentially, requiring the police to issue instantaneous $10,000 fines to these businesses, where they have been building up these kinds of relationships over a long period of time, and I wouldn't want to see that for the South Auckland police who have been involved in that work, or around the country, where these relationships are coming to bear. 