Hon JUDITH COLLINS: I look instead, I look instead—Phil Twyford's asking, "Where have they gone?" Well, Phil Twyford, he's clearly one of the best performers of Jacinda Ardern's Government, now promoted to No. 4. Well, what does that say about the rest of them? What does it say about the rest of them when they've got Phil Twyford at No. 4 and he's ahead of Dr Megan Woods and Chris Hipkins and just about everybody else? What does that say, and what does it say about the excellent work of the Hon Kelvin Davis at No. 2? Isn't that amazing, wonderful—when there's so much talent, so much talent!