ANDREW BAYLY: So I looked at clause 205A(2)(c)—so, if he's clear that he sees a contingent liability as a—because, you know, that's what derivatives have. They're interest rate swaps, and, by the way, you've had to appropriate $3 billion to cover the hikes—the expected costs—of all the large-scale asset-purchasing arrangements to cover the interest costs. These are real things, so, if he's implying or stating that a contingent liability or a derivative is a capital item, then I accept his argument that under clause 205A, it is covered. But I don't think that's the definition of a derivative, because a lot of those things—even under tax laws, some might be classified as capital and some might be classified as income. That's why I think the proposition that the Minister has been putting forward is actually wrong, because, in fact, a lot of those instruments aren't deemed capital.