Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: The member clearly didn't listen to the answer given to the "other Leader of the Opposition" a few moments ago, when the Prime Minister, I think, was very clear that one of the big shifts has been that we haven't been able to reach a common understanding for a joint decision-making framework, and therefore we have to plan based on more of a unilateral decision-making framework when it comes to suspension of the safe travel zone—a decision that could impact between 8,000 to 13,000 New Zealanders a day if travel returns to the level that it was before COVID-19.