When it comes to child poverty, we all know that the Government that Jacinda Ardern leads will put that at the centre of what we do. What we also know is that the statistics that have been thrown up by the National Party over the last couple of years are actually about when they were in Government. When we see the full impact of the Families Package on those child poverty numbers, we know that that's lifting hundreds of thousands of families out of poverty. We know that the winter energy payment has made sure not only that our low-income people have been able to keep warm but also that our older New Zealanders have as well. The dignity that is offered to New Zealanders by that should never be underestimated by a National Party who opposed all of that.