Hon ALFRED NGARO (National): Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'd like to begin my speech on the third reading of this bill in the House as I began last night. It's not the "what" that we debate; it's the "how". We know that what we need to do is to get our country back into a state where people can live normal lives, children can go to school, mums and dads can go to work, they can have time socialising, gathering around our country, whether it be in maraes or churches. That is what we all want and what we all desire. So the "what" is not in question in all our debates here in this House in regard to this bill; it's the "how". It is how this bill will give extraordinary powers in ways and in places that, for us, we object to, and we've heard the cries of the community at large, who have spoken to us about this.