I was interested by the proposal put forward by the Green Party, the Hon Eugenie Sage in her Supplementary Order Paper, looking to try and level up that playing field again, because my concern is that any time the Government is getting involved and meddling in a market, you're seeing perverse outcomes. And that's exactly what's happened here. Because of New Zealand First and their influence over the Labour Party, and Labour wanting to have the Government benches, we saw a perverse outcome that significantly skewed the market and resulted in a massive increase—tens and tens of thousands of hectares—of productive sheep and beef country going into forestry.