Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: What I can confirm is that this Government has made sure that New Zealand has kept one of the lowest levels of public debt in the OECD, has been able to both run surpluses and, then, once we reached COVID, manage down deficits to a low level compared with the rest of the world. We've also seen strong average annual growth. Each year, the Government has to assess the expenditure that it needs to undertake, such as making sure that we invest in health, making sure that we invest in education. The outcomes matter, and New Zealand has one of the strongest economies in the world.