In as far as COVID-19 is concerned, I have two specific questions about what's happening in the workplace today, and my colleague Michael Woodhouse did largely mention some of this too: whether or not an employer could be held responsible or liable in the case of somebody who was to contract COVID-19 in the workplace. I think what the Minister said was that as long as the workplace, the employer, had taken reasonable steps, they wouldn't be. But therein lies the problem, because we've seen, away from COVID-19, many instances where an employer has taken every precaution possible, and WorkSafe has still looked to prosecute. So could they be prosecuted in that situation where they have done everything possible?