But also, more recently, when I was a councillor on the Far North District Council, and we were dealing with the issue of rates on whenua Māori. The challenges that the legislation presented in terms of the rates arrears on whenua Māori, and how that inhibited many whānau in their desire to utilise their land, whether that be for housing or for economic development or other purposes. I also sat as a commissioner on the papa kāinga plan change for the Whangarei District Council.