SIMON WATTS: Well, let's get started on Part 4, and I do just want to refer to clause 95, actually, in regards to the Minister's approval being required for health entities dealing with land. I'm specifically interested around clause 95(2). As we all know—well, most will know—the reality of health assets, and particularly buildings that DHBs currently lease, is that these are long-term assets. One of the challenges in the current system is the bureaucracy of having to seek ministerial approval to get decisions made for what is routinely operational-type aspects, and I note in this clause that it remains the case that a health entity must not grant a lease or a licence over land for a term of no more than five years without the Minister's prior written approval. 