In respect of refugees, I think it's important to note that when a refugee is granted residence, he or she is not subject to the two-year stand down for any income support, whether that be jobseeker support, the invalid's benefit, and so on, that a New Zealand resident who has arrived for other reasons might have. The select committee, I think we should acknowledge, was very careful in our amendments to the bill to make sure that refugees would not be affected at all. So the chair's question—Dr Webb's question—about how refugees are affected by the SOP, I just want to support Mr Bayly's response. The answer is they won't be, and all through this transitional period and beyond, the qualification period will be 10 years. It will remain 10 years, and I see the member—yes—nodding. Good, because that's certainly my understanding. 