Now, why that is important, and why I raise that, is because NMIT is able to be nimble. It's able to respond to the needs of their community, and what that community needs, and the fear is—and I think it's quite well-founded—that if this is all rolled up into one entity, whether it's run out of the Minister's office or wherever that happens to be doesn't actually matter. What we know is that when things become large and are centralised in such a way, they lose nimbleness and an ability to actually react to what's in front of them. I would argue that there will be very few people in New Zealand in the tertiary sector that would have any understanding of a viticultural course and a winemaking course. I think that is beyond doubt. And to have that ability on the ground to react to what is needed—and what we've seen in Marlborough is the school of wine is linking in with that. So that's a secondary component reaching into tertiary, and I think that that is really important. That's where I think education will go in the future, and good on it, particularly with boys and education and getting them to see the point of education. That's half the problem and why so many boys are failing. They don't actually get what the point of it is. They don't see it linking to what their future is. 