Hon NANAIA MAHUTA: That member fails to understand that the model that we are proposing is a public model of water service delivery. So in creating a shareholding interest, it is to ensure there is a threshold that enables councils to have a say on the most significant decision, which will be the question of a merger or the divestment of assets. In fact, that member can't give the same assurances. Our Government's commitment is to safeguard against privatisation.