GINNY ANDERSEN (Labour—Hutt South): Thank you, Mr Speaker. It's time to take down the curtains, because the window dressing that's the three-strikes regime is coming down. It's time that this House moves past window dressing, dog-whistling, and the political posturing in the law and order space and started a real debate about what actually reduces recidivist offending and what actually reduces the number of victims in New Zealand. In order for us to learn from our past mistakes such as three strikes, it's important that we do three things: one, what is the initial three-strikes bill and what did it set out to achieve; two, why it failed; and, three, what does work to actually prevent crime? And I'm sure Mr Goldsmith would be interested in learning that. 