I suppose New Zealanders sitting at home, if they were in Auckland, hearing the "woo-woo-woo", the regular hum of sirens in the background, hearing the helicopter flying overhead, reading the stories of the significant increase in gun crime, the 35-plus shootings in Auckland—not Chicago, not Miami in the 1980s, but Auckland in the last little while ago, when they see the massive increase in gang membership, recruiting faster than the police. They look at all that and they say, "Well, this Government thinks the priority right here, right now is to reduce the prison sentences that our worst repeat offenders should face." We think that's nuts. We think the priority is wrong, and it shows that this is a Government that is wholly out of touch when it comes to justice and law and order in this community. 