Several things stood out for me when we were hearing these hundreds of submissions. The first was the willingness of survivors and people who have experienced conversion practices, and many who came to me as well, who said they'd never thought about what happened to them as being conversion practices but realised through this process that it was, and decades later that is still affecting many, many people. Many of those stories were heart-rending, and that trauma is still there—those people still need to be looked after, they still need care, because that harm was usually done by trusted people.