The Chatham Islands are a very special place, Rēkohu is a very special place, and Wharekauri is a very special place. They're all the same place, but, actually, over the generations, people have fallen in love with the Chathams for lots of different reasons. Most of it is actually the environment. It's a beautiful place. The people that live there are connected to the environment—and we here on the mainland could learn a thing or two from them. They fish from the lagoon. They get their food out of there. It is their food basket. They get kahawai. They get flounder. They get mullet. They get whitebait. All of that helps to sustain them as a community, and it's a beautiful thing to see. 