And we heard from the Minister how productivity growth in Australia, where they have sector-based bargaining, is 46 percent higher than it is here since we got rid of sector-based bargaining, and where employers have been competing actively on wages, not service, not innovation, not product—on wages; where a previous National Party Prime Minister was proud to say that we were competing internationally on the benefit of our low wages—on the benefit of our low wages. And the consequence of that has been two out of five children living in poverty in this country were in working families where parents did not and do not now have the time to spend with their children that they need to, where they don't have the time to engage in their community, to return to their homes to reconnect to their marae, and do not have the time or the money to be able to keep a roof over their head. We've seen increased transients and poor educational outcomes as a result, and we've seen a crisis of mental health. These things are not disconnected; this is the result of policies that undermine our sense of collectivity as a country, that undermine the voice and the value of working people in our country.