TIM VAN DE MOLEN (National—Waikato): Thank you, Mr Chair. I actually thought that was a reasonably fair question from Mr Seymour, and had hoped for an answer on that. It actually comes back to the area I'd been seeking some clarity on earlier, as well, and I didn't have answers on that, either—the two of those being in relation to new section 9A and around how someone can have certainty of their building product. Is there going to be a comprehensive or exhaustive list of all products? Because, based on what has just been canvassed by Mr Smith and Mr Seymour, if there is some uncertainty—and, as it's written, there is—around the confidence someone can have in whether or not a product or a method complies, if there was an exhaustive or a comprehensive list of all products or all methods that they could use to then rely on instead, then that would be one way to provide some clarity. Obviously, part of the reason for having it written as it is is to allow for that flexibility for innovation, as the Minister has touched on, and that's great. Innovation in the industry is fantastic, and I do want to ensure we support that. 