So quite happy to accept cross-subsidy on one day and argue against it on another day. In those days, it was essential. In those days, you couldn't put 100 percent of the money gathered off of roads into roading because that was just appalling. How would we pay for education, they said. How would we pay for health, they said. We can't put all the money into roading. Now they're saying, "Oh my gosh. We can't take the road-user charges and put them into rail."