Not only do they want to downplay the gang numbers but also they want to downplay the violence that gangs are causing and perpetrating on our streets. The Ministers are lining up to go and have cups of tea at the Mongrel Mob gang pad in Hamilton. We've had Willie Jackson, we've had Marama Davidson—she's not gone once but also twice. Who's going to be lining up next for a cup of tea with the Mongrel Mob in Hamilton to try and talk about their misunderstanding? 