Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: In fact, thank you—I thank the member; this is an opportunity, I think, to correct one of the statements that was made during the opening back and forth. I was asked at some point whether or not—at the bidding and urging, I think, of some Opposition members, for people to be prosecuted. The point that I made was that although those aren't decisions for any member of the Government, it's wrong to assume that people don't feel the consequences of when these issues happen. No one here has ever said anyone has deliberately ignored advice or not taken heed of the advice that has been given. But the idea of when a mistake happens or an error happens that there isn't consequence—I think people feel that acutely. The idea that a fine somehow changes the experience people have where things go wrong, I think is wrong. People do feel that consequence deeply.