But more than 550 entities and individuals were so concerned to hear about this bill that they did share their views, and what were their concerns, because it is pretty important. The member speaking before me—Camilla Belich—raised this issue of equity. Well, the question that they put was: "If the Minister imposes employment conditions that we cannot afford, how do you expect us to pay for them, because, really, we have two choices. One, we can increase fees"—and by the way, Minister Sepuloni, that is not good for the lower-income families who need to access early childhood education in order to be able to return to work; that is not good for them—"or, actually, the other choice we have is to lower quality in early childhood services by increasing the ratio of children to teachers." So if employment conditions are imposed by a Minister but they are not funded, that does not improve affordability or accessibility of early childhood education. 