Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: It's the very thing that got us—Mr Goldsmith did indeed say that. That is the very thing that got this country in trouble and what we had to rescue it from when we came into Government—long-term underfunding of core services—and the proposal that Mr Goldsmith has would strip out around $80 billion from Budgets over the next decade. That is the operations that take place in our hospital; that is the pay for our teachers; those are the services that are delivered through our Ministry of Social Development and other agencies—all at risk from an austerity plan from the other side of the House.