Hon CARMEL SEPULONI: I think it's very important that we are clear on what system we currently have in place. The Children's Commissioner between 2015 and 2019 had 78 complaints that were put through them that they then put on to the Ombudsman because the Ombudsman has had the lead role with regards to addressing complaints. The Children's Commissioner last undertook an investigation back in 2010. In 2019, we set up the Independent Children's Monitor. We set it up within the Ministry of Social Development (MSD) so it had the support to be initiated and to start up, but with the intention of always removing it out of the Ministry of Social Development. The Kāhui Group that were established to advise the Government on this, by and large, have their recommendations reflected in this bill. The one point of difference is they did think that we should establish a Crown entity for the Independent Children's Monitor. Where we have landed is a departmental agency that will still have sufficient independence, that will be hosted by Education Review Office, that can't be told what not to do by the Government, and that will sit alongside the advocate that continues to exist in the Office of the Children's Commissioner, as well as a strengthened complaints avenue process through the investment that we have put into and will continue to put into the Ombudsman.