My challenge to him is actually to tell the committee what advice that previous Government got and why his own ministry, as recently as May and June 2017, were still telling the previous Minister of Health, the Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman, that there was no problem big enough to warrant a contingent liability being quantified on any of the DHB balance sheets. In fact, they said they had undergone a diligent and rigorous examination of DHBs' compliance with the Holidays Act and there was nothing to report, they confidently reported back. I know this. I was Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety on a committee that sent Chai Chuah, the director-general, off to ask those questions. Because I was also Minister of Police, I knew that if Police had a $33 million problem, DHBs would have an exponentially larger problem. And so it has transpired, probably—what, $700 million and counting—$750 million? Something like that.