I learnt very, very little from that conversation over that hour-long period. Over the course of those few years I struggled because I hadn't had a second or third language behind me. I say that because, in fact, many New Zealanders struggle with learning a second language. There were many New Zealanders at the OECD in Paris; few of them knew any other languages other than English. I think that this is quite common in Anglophone countries where we assume that everybody else in the world speaks our own language, and so we have a bit of a—possibly—arrogant attitude when we go out there in the world today.