Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: Yes, I can, in fact, confirm that. Many other countries' vaccination certificate regimes aren't anything more sophisticated than the little card that people get when they go to be vaccinated. Our system will be significantly more advanced than that, and it will allow for the validation of someone's vaccine record. It would help to prevent vaccination fraud, in the sense of people passing off that they have been vaccinated, when they haven't been. Those things are important. People have the ability to produce evidence to show that they have been vaccinated now. Some people use the little vaccine cards already. And people can download their records off the internet today if they wish to.