They have the gall on that side of the House to stand there and lecture us about debt without offering any plan whatsoever as to what they're going to do, except $31 billion of additional roads, without details of funding, and there is talk from international analysis that they are going to have to strip $80 billion of services to New Zealand in order to meet this debt target that they have set. It is rubbish. It is austerity. It is what we saw during the global financial crisis, and that is why we saw tens of thousands of apprentices go by the wayside at that time, but that is also why this Government has said no. We are going to invest. We are going to make sure that those apprentices come out of this with the skills that we need as a country when the economy rebuilds, and we have seen examples coming out from Stats New Zealand that we are already on track.