Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: If the member wishes to speak to the arrangements that actually exist across the board in many areas of local government, including currently on some of the water issues down south or even maunga management up north, the member takes issue with that. He may wish to reflect on his role in the time that National was in Government, where many of those arrangements were established. What I would be interested in is, actually, if the member could articulate what it is that has been generated by those groups and those arrangements that the member finds particularly problematic; what is it about local government actually acknowledging that, to date, we haven't had fair representation of Māori in local government; and what it is about the changes that have come into place that the member finds particularly problematic? Let's discuss the issue, rather than what I'm worried about is just blatant politicisation. 