If the Minister really thinks that we can ban this trade, just like Minister Woods thought we could ban the exports and now we're importing coal from Indonesia, if the Minister thinks that he can shut his eyes and think that if we ban this in New Zealand where we have some top-class exporters who work in with exporters in Australia, that other people are not going to do it, then he can think again. I remember clearly the Minister basing this on trade. Well, Minister, Australia still do this. Australia got trade agreements before we did. So where on earth did that argument come from? This is absolutely based on the Minister's opinion. I honestly say that if the Minister, in future, is going to run a select committee where the submitters are going to come in and not be heard, then why have a select committee process at all? It's absolutely appalling that the public and the farmers of New Zealand, and the cattle traders, would be treated in this way. It was the most appalling select committee that I've been part of in my whole eight years in Parliament. Thank you, Madam Speaker.