So it would seem to me that whether it's the same substance, we can argue all day. The fact is that the initiative by Jan Logie, and Marama Davidson's point of order have the same effect, and that is to introduce a form of safe area into the bill, or re-introduce it, after the Chair of the committee has ruled out a very similar amendment to introduce a similar form of safe area. Indeed, the committee of the whole House has ruled out the safe area concept completely, which led to SOP 474 being ruled out of order.