ERICA STANFORD: What he said was cute, I should say. "I'll save you an hour of your time and tell you what National speakers are going to say.", and he wasn't wrong. But his very flippant way of dismissing our point won't sit well with Kiwis who are now paying an extra 4c a litre at the pump, who are going to be paying more for their food, more for their electricity, more for their fuel, and watch their cost of living increase. His whole speech was so high and mighty, talking about eight years and ten years and the effect doesn't reduce, and every year of delay—and while he was saying all this, I was sitting here thinking to myself, actually: where have all the delays been in the last three years? The delays have been in the introduction of electric vehicles into this country. We had, what, about 87 electric vehicles in the Government fleet at the beginning of their term? I think we still have that exact same amount, despite their promises to increase that by a third or a half. They've done absolutely nothing in three years. You want to talk about delays? There's a massive delay.