So let's just come away from this idea that the Government's being all generous and it's not going to cost the ratepayers any money, because, "101" for  the people on the other side of the House: ratepayers and taxpayers are often, in many cases, the same people. So we'll squash that idea. I'm going to squash a second idea this afternoon—that the Government's been listening. The Government and this Minister, Nanaia Mahuta, have not been listening to the feedback that's come with three waters. I haven't seen many things where the public has got so engaged against a proposal as they have with the three waters proposal. They're absolutely livid, they don't want it, and there's no listening to what's going on. But the other part of the not listening is that the members on the other side of the House stand up and say that the National Party and the National caucus say that there isn't a problem and are happy with the status quo—now, that is not the truth. But the truth is that there is more than one way to solve things, and the three waters proposed solution—as is in this piece of legislation—is not the answer. 