If we're going to put our trust and faith in people, at least if the clause that the ACT Party is seeking to amend that protects the conversations between parents and children—that should be in primary legislation, and then if there is a decision, on which it would be a very difficult decision for the Attorney-General to actually advance prosecution, that would be up to a judge to determine whether a crime or an offence had been committed, not some hand-picked academics with agendas who should really, if we're honest, be putting their hands up for selection as Labour Party candidates in the future. It's not for those people to decide whether a conversation between a parent and a child or between a caregiver and a child should be subject to criminal action. This must be in the primary legislation.