In the three interviews he gave on the morning of the day in which the individual was suspended from Parliament, I think it was 19 May, the Speaker said three times—firstly, to Ms Ferguson on Radio New Zealand, "I want to make it clear that I don't know that this is an MP, and if it is not an MP, then it will be a Parliamentary Service or Office of the Clerk staff member."; to Mr Garner, on The AM Show, "I don't know whether the person is a member or a staffer, a current or former employee."; and to Mr Campbell on TVNZ Breakfast, in answer to a question, "Do you know enough to be able to tell me whether it's an MP or a staffer?", the answer, "No, I don't." I find that difficult to reconcile with the information that Mr Gonzalez-Montero gave to the select committee subsequently that he had briefed the Speaker, on a no-surprises basis, about the case in question and that it could be, without doubt, the same case, and, therefore, what the Speaker said to the media was not consistent with the information the select committee got. I think the committee of the whole House is entitled to an explanation about how these two wildly different realties can both be true at the same time.