I do note at some stage in the bill it refers to setting up statutory boards that will have a co-governance approach to the wetland, to reserve land, and to conservation land. Now, where the scope and the purpose and the objectives of those statutory entities is clear, and that revolves around ecology and making sure that the people who have an interest in these lands and waters are satisfied that the ecological and the biodiversity values are being enhanced, then, look, there may very well be good reasons to have a co-governance model. But there will always be concerns from some people who feel that in the absence of a democratically elected pathway to people who control reserves and other what are currently common lands held by the Crown for the purpose of administering them so that all New Zealanders can access them, that a co-governance arrangement may, in fact, exclude some people who wish to be heard. 