SPEAKER: Order! Order! No, no, the member doesn't have the call. I'm going to make two points now. One is that members have been briefed, as part of their training, that there is sometimes a delay in getting to a member remotely. I'm not going to put up with criticism of the staff who are involved in that when there is such a delay, and/or comments, as we did have. The second point I'll make is that patsy questions and answers have a limit, and the last answer went beyond that limit. And therefore, I'm now going to call Hon Gerry Brownlee for the next question.