Every New Zealander—rural, provincial, metropolitan—deserves the best world-class health services on their doorsteps. And you know what's going to happen when they strip away the DHBs to a centralised national health service that localised control, that localised needs won't be there. And how do I know? I actually worked for the British National Health Service (NHS) for 15 years. If you want to see an inefficient health system, go to the UK. And what's interesting about the UK model is actually they're moving away from a centralised model, they're actually moving to foundation trust. I'll quote what they say, the UK moving from a centralised National Health Service to NHS foundation trust, "The reform of NHS Trust is an important part of the United Kingdom Government's programme to create a patient-led NHS with an internal market." The stated purpose—and this is moving away from centralised to devolved into foundation trusts—is to devolve decision making from a centralised NHS to local communities in an effort to be more responsive to their needs and wishes. So here you have the UK with a centralised healthcare system moving away from that because they know it doesn't provide a responsive health service.