When you look at a range of submissions that were received, there were a number of people who thought this bill should not proceed. One submitter said "adding appointed members in addition to those democratically elected is a move away from democracy towards oligarchy"—this is what they thought this was going to do. Because as our lead caller said, the Hon Paul Goldsmith, this is fundamentally going to change democracy in New Zealand. We are going to move away from equal suffrage—one vote and one person. And what we've heard previously in debates around this issue—and, in fact, I think it might have been Tāmati Coffey who mentioned it in the first reading—there's now a phrase Labour uses: these bills are just tweaking democracy. Well, I think we just need to look around the world at what happens when you start tweaking democracy.