But if we look at the records, in fact, the Minister himself mentioned that even before COVID a delay to a High Court hearing in Auckland, an adjournment, could result in a delay of up to a year before another hearing date was available. Having this bill referred to select committee as proposed for a truncated hearing period and consideration period of only a few weeks will not address a backlog of over 8,000 cases that have built up during the COVID period. They are 8,000 more cases than the actual backlog, which I'm sure is many, many, many thousands more. 