If I look at clause 10, "Section 8 amended (Financing of terrorism)", I note that the purpose of this clause is to comply with New Zealand's international obligations under the United Nations Security Council resolutions. And, in line with that, the bill inserts "material support" into the scope of what cannot be provided to a designated terrorist entity and also criminalises support that has been provided recklessly. I note that there has been some concern raised that there would be legitimate aid organisations—that people would seek to support places or people and children, for example, in a war-torn environment—and they could be captured by this; however, there is a carve-out which addresses this, and that is in subsection (5), which says "Material support excludes humanitarian support to satisfy basic needs". And it goes further to note: "[if that] is provided (a) in good faith for genuine humanitarian reasons; and (b) impartially or neutrally as between people who have those needs." So there is a carve-out that explicitly protects those people who wish to provide support to those in war-torn environments that's for a purpose of assisting people for humanitarian purposes and not to support, or be reckless as to support for, terrorist organisations or aims.