And so my question to the Minister in the chair, the Hon Chris Hipkins, is around his Supplementary Order Paper 68 and his comments around clause 4(2), "(2) The functions that the Teaching Council may perform with the written approval of the Minister … as follows:", and the three comments there around the leadership training. Can the Minister just clarify whether that addresses the submissions of many of the teachers—that they explicitly stated they did not want the Teaching Council to be involved in professional development provision for them? And so is the Minister saying that this leadership training will not be any subject-specific professional development? And also, the functions that the council may perform with the written approval of the Minister seem to be quite an operational matter that the Minister is prepared to put his finger in the pie of, and does he think that getting down into that operational level is a sensible thing for him to be doing and likely to fill the teachers with confidence in the council, if they have to be going to him for approval? Would it not be much better that he ruled that provision out, specifically when the submissions asked for that provision of professional development training to be left out?