Hon ANDREW LITTLE: The member is conflating a number of completely different things. The early part of the latest lockdown was a level 4 lockdown, and the member will well know that, typically, what happens is that hospitals then cease most planned care and put those procedures off. In Auckland in particular, because they've gone from level 4 and then down to level 3, there has been continued disruption of planned care and, indeed, some other procedures. Most DHBs have resumed planned care and other procedures. The Auckland hospitals have been able to refer some patients to other DHBs to get those procedures done, but the reality about pandemics and lockdowns is that they are disruptive to surgical procedures, and that has happened on this occasion.