Hon JULIE ANNE GENTER (Green): I thank the Minister for his answer. Based on what the Minister said about the changes with Delta, I'm just wondering if he could comment on if the view to opening the border has changed, not just given Delta but also the other potential mutations, the breakthrough infections in countries that have reasonable vaccination rates, and in particular given that young children are not able to be vaccinated here in New Zealand—I'm just wondering if he could comment on whether he thinks it's likely we can wait until vaccinations are available to everyone, including children aged two, before we see a real loosening of the border.