HELEN WHITE: —and I'd actually like to finish my speech. In that tour, I was really impressed with the people who were teaching there. I was impressed by their enthusiasm, but I was mostly impressed by the students. They were learning new things, they were getting good jobs, and they were very, very delighted to see a whole lot of Labour MPs listening and taking notes. They had a really interesting combination of objectives. Yes, they were profit-making, but they also absolutely stood by a social justice principle, so they were taking people who wouldn't have necessarily been to a university and they were turning them into very creative, happy, high-end learners and earners, and it was a wonderful thing to see. So thank you to the Media Design School for hosting us.