Hon JAMES SHAW: I understand that this isn't like that but I haven't finished the point yet. My point is that every time that there is an economic downturn, when they're in Government, the National Party says, "Great. Let's defer action on climate change. Let's put it off until things get better." And then things get better and you kind of think, OK, well we probably need to review those settings, right? Roughly five years after the last economic crisis—2015 was the review. Then that whole process, because it's so complicated, takes a few years to roll in, and then you say, "Look, great. Here's some reforms that we need to do.", and then, boom, there's another economic downturn, "Let's kick the can down the road."