We hear people talking about the high levels of debt, but, in actual fact, Labour went into the election saying they were comfortable with Crown debt rising briefly to about 50 percent of GDP, whereas Government debt levels in Aotearoa at the end of May were 31 percent of GDP. That was $6.9 billion lower than forecast, and the cost of borrowing at the moment is incredibly low. It's a real opportunity to invest for the future. Comparing this to international debt from other countries—Australia's level is close to 50 percent of GDP, the UK and the US close to 100 percent—there is quite a lot more room for the Government to be able to move to invest in those things that really matter for our communities. 