So there's a huge amount of work to be done, and part of that is between the relationship between the Crown—which most people outside of Wellington refer to as "Wellington"—and communities. And actually, that trust has been broken as well, and that needs to be restored. So I'm really interested to hear—and this is also, we've particularly been focusing on this and the impact on whānau Māori, because that history is very well known and documented and it's a breach of Te Tiriti o Waitangi, and the tenfold increase in bringing tamariki Māori into care compared to non-Māori is an absolute outrage on our society. There is also the lens in terms of disability around this that I don't think we acknowledge enough, where the Ombudsman's report that came out earlier this year—in the case files he reviewed, in every single family at least one of the parents had a disability, and that lens was not brought to the interventions by Oranga Tamariki. And we know, our services on the ground, that enabling good lives is about starting to get supports for people to be able to overcome the barriers from our disabling society, but we have a very long way to go. And that is all part of the work that we need to do urgently. So I'm really interested.