So what it tended to show was that if a small community-based service had closed, the service that had replaced it tended to have a higher proportion of qualified teachers than the centre that had closed, and it tended to be opening longer hours—i.e., it tended to be supporting parents' labour market participation for greater hours but also that it tended to cater for a broader range of age groups. So the notion that some of these small community-based services are struggling because of the for-profit services coming in and sweeping up their students and offering a lower quality service isn't actually borne out by the evidence. I looked at that very closely, and you might think that's interesting—a Labour Minister arguing that—but I wanted to test whether the view being put forward was correct, and the conclusion I reached from that was that the view being put forward was not correct. 