But in February this year, the talks broke down after 11 rounds of talks, and I want to tell the House what I think happened. What I think happened is Australia shut its borders temporarily to New Zealand after we had the Valentine's Day cluster. This is the Papatoetoe cluster that everyone got very worried about for a couple of weeks. Australia temporarily closed the border and the Prime Minister criticised the Australian Government and said, "We're not very happy about that. They shouldn't have done that. We're doing a great job managing COVID in New Zealand.", etc., etc. And I think the Australians' point of view at that point was, "Well, hang on a minute. You're sitting in here in the joint decision-making framework with us, arguing that you should retain the ability to close off the New Zealand border when there's a flare-up in Australia, and now here you are, Prime Minister, criticising the Australian Government for doing precisely what you are arguing for in the negotiations." And I think the Australians said, "Well, that doesn't really make a lot of sense, actually.", and they'd be right. So then the talks broke down.