Hon CARMEL SEPULONI (Minister for Social Development and Employment): I do agree with the Prime Minister. This is why we worked quickly to enact the wage subsidy when hit with a once-in-a-generation pandemic. This quick action protected jobs and stopped New Zealand from reaching the number of unemployed predicted by Treasury. We're making good progress, with record numbers of people moving into work over the past 12 months. In the year ending June 2022, 30,200 people on jobseeker who had been receiving a main benefit for more than a year found work. This included 6,600 people who had been receiving support for three years or more. In 2017, these numbers were 14,500 and 3,960 respectively, showing our investment into front-line case management is working. Recently, I saw a news article where the Child Poverty Action Group said that our Government was too focused on getting people into work, and not on to child poverty reduction. We do not see those things as mutually exclusive. I acknowledge there is more to do, but we are certainly on the right track.