NICOLA GRIGG (National—Selwyn): Thank you, Mr Chair. I congratulate the Minister on her ambitions for women, and I must say I share much of that sentiment, to a degree. I think I made some commentary in this House last time I spoke on this bill about there being quite an ideological difference from these two sides of the House around this policy change. As much as there are ideological arguments to be had, there's also data-driven arguments to have, and we on this side of the Chamber, especially, like to make our decisions based in data. 