Chris Bishop: Point of order. I think the point, sir, is we just want to know what the rules are. When you were not here, sir, Deputy Speaker Rurawhe did not apply the up-and-down rules. If it is now the case that you've moved away from the up-and-down system—for want of a better phrase—when it comes to the order in the House, that's fine; we will take that on board. But if it is the case that you're going to continue to apply it, we'd like to know that. We just want to know what the rules are.