A further sequence of a few questions: how does he explain a "D" investor confidence rating from the Treasury in the Ministry of Health, which he leads—the worst rating the ministry has ever had? My third question then would be: how many fulltime-equivalents are predicted with the health reforms? So on day one, we know that it's a straight transfer from those in DHBs to Health New Zealand. I understand that. What is the future prediction of fulltime-equivalents under the proposed health reforms?