But Penny Bright was an activist. She felt, because of her objections to paying rates, which were philosophical and went back many, many years, that she wouldn't pay and that she shouldn't pay and that no one was going to make her pay. Then, unfortunately for Penny, she became very ill and she has since passed away, and I think that's a great loss to Auckland because she was a wonderful, independent voice. But Auckland Council, despite the fact they were dealing with somebody who had a very large reputation and a big following in her community and amongst her supporters, and somebody who was ill, actually continued to negotiate with Penny in order that she fulfil her obligations and pay her rates. It was only because she reached the very final stages of her life that they decided to forgive and forgo that rates bill that she had accumulated over many, many years. Otherwise, there's no doubt that Auckland Council would've taken the same action to recover those outstanding rates as they do with others who are in default. 