Hon TRACEY MARTIN (Minister for Children): Normally, when I get up to do a general debate speech, I always, always have a specific topic in mind, and then—and then. So what I want to say to the New Zealanders that are listening is you already know what a National Government would do in a crisis not quite as bad as this one. You already know. Go back and have a look at what a National Government did after the global financial crisis. Go back and have a look at how they stripped out money from the public services that the New Zealand public needed to ride through the global financial crisis. Go and have a look, because that is what you would be looking at again with a National Government.