Hon WILLIE JACKSON: Well, the hope is that through our continual upskilling and training programmes, and our push and our support in terms of communities, our people will come through. The numbers have been terrific. We've seen the unemployment rates at a record low. We've seen the Māori unemployment rate is at an all-time low. What does that tell you? It tells you that our targeted programmes are working. It's telling you that the people that the National Party forgot are actually getting an opportunity, and that's what this Government is focusing on. This is a long process, and we've still got a few years to go yet as a Government.