Rt Hon DAVID CARTER: It's got nothing to do with extension services, because, if he bothered to look at the paperwork, it's actually $10 million that has been spent supporting the pork industry. The detail is here in the information of the Supplementary Estimates, and that's what disappoints me with the discussion tonight. We normally have a Budget process where a Budget's presented and, at the end of that Budget process, there's inevitably a supplementary bill that tidies up the variations that occur, and that's appropriate for all Governments. But what we've got here, and what we're discussing tonight, is supplementaries to the supplementaries. The Government has had to cope with an extraordinary situation with COVID, and I fully accept that, but the amounts of money we're talking about here are mind-boggling, and you've just had the interjection from the Hon Shane Jones, where he has no idea whatsoever why we're appropriating $10.245 billion to the Ministry for Primary Industries. Nothing to do with extension services; it's to do with supporting the pork industry.