And what happens for those younger people? Well they've grown up and are now used to a level of workplace democracy that is good, that is proper, and that is working very well for New Zealanders, and they don't want to be cajoled and coerced into a template pigeonhole model that is of the sort that this legislation seeks to provide. And so, for most younger New Zealanders, they'll be scratching their heads and saying, "Why am I being forced to negotiate—well, in fact, to lose my right to negotiate with my employer? Why is it going to be that decisions about my terms of employment, my hours of work, my rate of pay, and the conditions upon which I'm employed—why will it be that I no longer have a say in those matters and that those matters will be decided by big unions and big business, probably in a closed room in Wellington somewhere?" The only difference between that kind of scenario and what used to happen 30 years or more ago is that the smoke-filled rooms will no longer be there. But in secret meeting rooms behind closed doors, pay and conditions and terms, under this piece of legislation, will be negotiated by faceless people who don't represent the interests and the best prospects for those people who they are purportedly negotiating for. They will be representing the interests of either business or unions, and there'll be very little concern for individual employees.