A colleague of mine actually asked one of their friends, who is looking into surrogacy, and said, "What is it you'd want shared tonight if you could have a say?" The first thing they said was: "Catch up New Zealand, come on. Let's just get on with it. Let's catch up. Let's keep moving." But they also talked about the fact that the bill, again, is around enabling and empowering. Here's a few things that they said: "I've never personally felt more disempowered by something."—in the process they're going through at the moment. They also talked about that you're making intending parents, basically, prove their fitness to be a parent. For many families that conceive in more ordinary ways, there's never a question or a conversation around "Are they fit to be a parent, is it the right financial position right now to be a parent?" So the fact that we're normalising and we're bringing surrogacy into the 21st century is very much around protecting people and making people feel empowered.