The strange thing about these names like Wakefield and Tory (the latter was the name of the ship that brought them to this country), they have stayed hidden away on street signs all around Wellington, and all around the country. This is something that is only skin deep to us all today because it has been hidden away since the time the Pākehā confiscated our lands. One of the stories about Edward Gibbon Wakefield was that he was in prison for three years when he was in England for abducting a girl; a 15-year-old. That's the sort of fella he was. So those are the circumstances under which the Native Affairs Committee was established.