For example, we have just recently announced the Māori Health Authority reform and the Māori health reform. We have done this because Māori life expectancy is lower than for non-Māori; mortality rates are higher for Māori in nearly all ages. Māori health status remains unequal across almost all chronic and infectious diseases as well as injuries, including suicide. When we take off our rose-tinted glasses and look at equity versus equality, then the evidence for a Māori health authority is clear and the discussion about a separatist organisation, us doing things in a divisive way, is something that I find distasteful. 