Hon WILLIE JACKSON: The 5 percent target is an aspirational target. I know it's hard for the Opposition to understand that word, but it's a target based on the volume of contract not the value. It is a really good start because the National Party refused to acknowledge indigenous procurement, and I say to the member to tautoko what we're doing and support this percentage. It's a good start for our party, and we're hoping to increase it over the next 12 months.