If we look towards these two gentlemen and acknowledge their Māori whakapapa—and Dr Kerekere is right in saying that we can't simply look towards a clinical assessment. While we acknowledge, in the report, that that was lacking, we acknowledge too that that must be one of the first priorities as we find whānau members and community members who contract COVID, to have a clear clinical assessment early. From there, we must look towards the entire system to cater for them and their whānau. And I want to give an example: what we know, in recent times, is a particular person in a whānau has contracted COVID-19, and what's happened is that the health response was strong—actually, a strong clinical assessment, a strong connection with the whānau—and then, sadly, what happened was the social connection wasn't there. In a remote area, how was that whānau supposed to be able to go and get the needs of their tamariki, their mokopuna who all live in the same house? And who stepped into the breach? Māori health providers—Māori health providers. And we've heard it right across the country. I suspect members right across the country have heard the same line: trusted members of the community—not just anybody but a trusted member, and a skilled member, and the right person in that community to continue to work with that family.