Hon MICHAEL WOOD (Minister of Transport): I'll respond fairly briefly to some of the points that are made here, which largely amount to "we think that utes are good in some places" and I think are quite general in their nature. I want to draw members' attention to one of the considerations which is identified here before the Minister must make regulations, which are the international and domestic climate change ambitions and commitments we've made. Now, under the draft emissions reduction plan that we are consulting on—which derives from the independent climate commission's recommendations—the overall goal is that by about 2035, we need to have around about 30 percent of our fleet being zero emissions. By 2035, about 30 percent of the fleet needs to be at zero emissions. But if you would listen to the members on the other side of the House, they are creating a sort of doomsday scenario in which everyone is forced out of their vehicles on the implementation of this legislation, and that is simply not true. The members also make the mistake of not properly reading through the legislation and actually what it sets up, which is a regime which through the standard and the discount incentivises cleaner vehicles over time. It doesn't go from zero to 100 at once.