What this recent COVID-19 crisis has done is that it has brought a lot of the inefficiency and the chaos that many people have known about for a long time to centre stage, to the first item on the 6 o'clock news. I'll just give a simple example. That is the question of how much personal protective equipment (PPE) is available in New Zealand, where is it, and what are the criteria for people accessing it? For about 3½ weeks, nobody anywhere could answer those basic questions. Now, that's not a criticism of the Minister—I don't think it would've mattered who was in charge. The simple fact is that no matter who was elected to be in charge of this system, no one had the information.