Hon STUART NASH: That member of Parliament who has brought this bill to the House, I believe, is out of touch with the vast majority of good, law-abiding citizens. All the research shows that where the gangs get their guns from is they steal them from good, law-abiding citizens. In order to deal with the gun problems and gangs, we brought a bill to this House which made it a lot more difficult for gangs to get guns, and, lo and behold, the ACT Party and the National Party voted against that bill. 