Hon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE: —and I'm also talking about what we're not talking about and what we should be, which is spending better and taxing less. But instead, we are having to lift the minimum family tax credit to maintain the separation between those who work and those who don't. That's appropriate, and the Minister said so. And the National Party strongly support—and, in fact, it is a core value that we reward hard-working New Zealanders while maintaining social supports for those who struggle to find work. 