But I guess my reflection on listening to the debate today—I understand the importance of having that certainty for people that are setting up early childhood education (ECE) centres, and for business to have that  certainty to go about and do those things. But, on the other hand, it's important for us to remember that that should be about what is the best for our tamariki, what is the best for our mokopuna, what are the standards that are in place to make sure that they're being taught in the best ways possible, and the ways that that can be organised to support them to do that.