RACHEL BOYACK (Labour—Nelson): Thank you, Madam Chair. It's a privilege and a pleasure to take a call in the committee stage of this important debate. I just want to begin by responding to some of the comments raised from the other side around dependants, because I feel like I took a step back about 60 years into the 1960s around those comments, and I wasn't even born in the 1960s but I've heard enough about that time to know that it felt like I was going way back in time. Because it kind of felt and it kind of sounded like employers wouldn't hire women, and I know that wasn't stated explicitly but it was certainly implied in the debate. And actually, what I want to talk about is the number of men I've worked with over the years who have campaigned to increase the sick leave for them in their workplaces. In one of my previous roles, I worked as a union organiser, proudly.