Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS: Surveillance testing would suggest that it is entirely plausible that we didn't have cases. What the member needs to realise is the changing demographic inside our managed isolation and quarantine facilities. As the world opens up, we see people arriving, either transiting through Australia or coming directly from other parts of the world in a place where COVID is growing, not slowing. I am not surprised that we are seeing people who are in our managed isolation facilities with COVID. The important thing is that we are catching these within these facilities, and this is a strong line of defence to New Zealanders and the gains they have made.