I want to quote probably one of the most eminent Queen's Counsel in the area of family law Simon Jefferson, from an interview on From Nine to Noon, talking about a lawyer for the child. He said, "The risk, sounding a bit banal, a lawyer"—he was talking about lawyers for the child, as I say—"is someone with a law degree; that does not necessarily equip you to ascertain the views of a child or to exercise a judgment as to just what is relevant and what is not, and then to convey it to the court. Lawyers are lawyers. Now, of course, it's a legal system, so that's why they're lawyers. But is it the best model? I've got my doubts. The lawyers who represent children, and I am one of many, we don't really have much in the way of in-depth training; it's just dumb experiential. What we pick up on the way about child development and understanding adult dynamics, understanding some of the typical dynamics that occur between parents in a Family Court, but it's a bit crude; it's a bit simplistic."