Now, I actually believe it's better to find ways to encourage employers and employees to work well together, because I'm yet to meet a good employer—and this country is full of business people who are good employers, who care about their businesses and actually want to retain good staff; because it is much easier, much easier to keep good staff members than it is, as this Government thinks, for good employers to get rid of them to then go and hire someone else because it may be easier or cheaper. I think we should find a system that trusts and encourages them to work it out for themselves rather than the blunt instrument of the Government, of just saying, "We made an election promise that we're going to double sick leave. We have not put any thought into it other than it sounded good at the time. There are consequences to this, but don't worry, it's good for productivity." Forget the $1 billion extra cost that is imposed upon these businesses, because the Labour Government sees businesses as an ATM for paying the bills they want to run up. 