When the Hon Chris Finlayson took this over, the commentary's been made that maybe—and maybe I didn't hear correctly—there hasn't been enough dialogue with Māori, and then that Te Ao Māori were unhappy with the outcomes 2016 to 2017. I would make the point that when Chris was Associate Minister to Pita Sharples, he had discussions with very senior people in Māoridom—Toko Kapia from Ngāti Apa, Matanuku Mahuika from Ngāti Porou, Dion Tuuta from Ngāti Mutunga, and Dame Patsy Reddy were all involved with an exposure draft that was quite rare to actually put out, and had widespread discussion. 