Hon NANAIA MAHUTA: Yes, I have and I continue to. And no matter how difficult the challenge is, it's my strong view that engagement with the local government sector is a critical part of trying to find a solution to a really difficult challenge. I will not close my doors to engagement. In fact, just for convenience's sake, I have a range of engagements dating back from June 2018 right up until the present day, which details the range of engagements that I have had on this particular issue. More importantly, the policy process has taken over four years to get to a point. Now, I know that we're at the end of the year. This Government wants to ensure that we reach a point where on the first day of Christmas, all communities and all ratepayers get [Sings] clean drinking water, world-class water infrastructure, affordable water rates, professional governance entities, beaches we can swim in, debt off council books, and a pūkeko in a ponga tree.