To return to teaching New Zealand history in schools, I think there is a little bit of disquiet around the three big ideas that the ministry has developed and is currently consulting with. They're in the committee's report to the annual review. They say the three big ideas are: "Māori history is the foundational and continuous history of Aotearoa New Zealand; Colonisation and its consequences have been central to our history for the past 200 years and continues to influence all aspects of Aotearoa New Zealand society; and, Aotearoa New Zealand's history has been shaped by the exercise and effects of power." Well, that's an interesting take on history. It seems exceedingly backwards and exceedingly zero-sum, I would describe it. Whereas, for example, technology, if it wasn't for technological development none of us could have got here, none of us would have anything to export, we wouldn't be able to get it to market, and wouldn't be able to communicate with people. Not only is our past inextricably linked with technological development so is the future of our kids.