Hon CHRIS HIPKINS (Minister of Police): A couple of things in that. First of all, these days there are women on the judiciary as well—they're not all just men. The other thing, in terms of the issue that the member has raised in terms of how we would measure the success of firearms prohibition orders, that, of course, is a challenging one, because preventing crime means that there isn't something to measure in the first place, and ultimately that's what this is designed to achieve. If you stop someone who has been a previous offender using a firearm to offend again, or to do a different type of offending, that would be quite difficult to be able to measure that, but it's a successful outcome none the less.