So we're left here with a situation that—what are we trying to achieve with all this? We're trying to deal with the question in relation to the way that local government and our democracy in this country operates. And we on this side of the House have an expectation that New Zealanders will be consulted about, and have an opinion about, and a chance to have their say about when we change the fundamental rules of how democracy works in this country. That's always been the approach in New Zealand. If you want to change the rules, if you want to introduce a Māori ward, you have a referendum, you put it in. If you want to take them away, you have a referendum, and so forth. This Government has changed those rules, and Willie Jackson has just announced that democracy has changed. But nobody else seems to be prepared to defend it or explain it in any other way, other than just agree with it, lump it, and move on. And that is no effective way to run a country.