Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: In the same way that the proposals we've put forward come from the royal commission, who themselves state, "The language of hatred and calls for violence that we propose would catch only extreme speech. We do not see the reframed offence as engaged by microaggressions, and so on. Nor would it be a mechanism for criminalising the vigorous expression of opinion on controversial issues, such as gender identity or immigration." The example that was put to me in that interview was about simply just someone expressing an opinion. The point I was making was that the critical element of incitement needs to be included, in the same way it is in our current law.