There is also—and I've seen this numerous times in cases that I have seen—a reluctance by those involved around the children, whether it's family members or other agencies, to raise the issues of children being abused. So it's actually quite difficult and it takes quite a few steps usually before something comes to the attention of the relevant agencies. And so we need to recognise that reality and we need to take steps to ensure that the children, and their best interests, are always taken into account first and we do what we can to ensure that they are looked after. 