Well, I can tell you this Minister's track record with the people. On 24 April of this year, the Minister said that there would be financial relief on the way for recreation and tourism businesses operating on public conservation land. What a welcome message that was. Eugenie Sage: "This is a difficult time for all businesses, and, in particular, for tourism businesses." She went on to say, "I have asked DOC to explore what support can be provided to concessionaires. Officials are assessing a range of potential options, including refunds for concession fees which have been paid in advance, extension to payment terms,"—and so on. Well, what a breath of fresh air coming from this Minister at a time of great need to those people who are doing their business on Department of Conservation land.