Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: Obviously, when the Government borrows money it's fully aware of the fact of what might need to happen at the other end, and traditionally, over the last few Governments, New Zealanders have done reasonably well in paying down the debt that has been built up in previous times. I would caution the member on going down this particular path of questioning, given the everyday occurrence of his party requesting that more money be spent. We are spending money in a compassionate and responsible way.