We've all been on a bit of a wave, a wave as they've gone through their turbulent times with their leadership. We've been on a wave as they've gone through their turbulent reckons when it comes to this pandemic. Thank goodness they haven't been anywhere near the helm, and thank goodness they have not been anywhere near the purse strings of this country as we have weathered this storm, because it sounds like during the midst of a pandemic, all the folk on the other side of the House want to see costs cut, but they won't tell you what programmes they're going to cut—no, no, no. Anyway, it's not about them. They can dither in their own whatnot.