I acknowledge the contribution from Nikki Kaye and from Louisa Wall. I've spoken to Harete Hipango's SOP, and I have nothing further to say about that. In answer to Kieran McAnulty's question he raised about the communications he is receiving about whether the bill will allow up-to-birth abortion—no, it won't; there's no such thing as abortion at birth. Let's have a look at the figures. The number of abortions after 20 weeks is a very, very minuscule amount. The number at 22 weeks is an even more minuscule amount. Abortions, typically, do not take place after 24 weeks. There is no such thing as full-term abortion. In relation to Down syndrome, again, the health professional advising the woman is subject to all of those legal, professional, and other considerations before giving that advice. The critical criteria are the woman's mental health and physical health and wellbeing and indeed, if it comes to the distress of the fetus, the status of the fetus as well. Those are the considerations that apply. That's what must be taken into account. 