RACHEL BOYACK: You obviously haven't talked to her as recently as I have. One of the things that we found out is 35 councils have moved to having a Māori ward. They have chosen to do that. That's around half of our councils. All that bill actually says—if you read the bill—is that you need to consider a Māori ward, alongside all the other considerations. "Consider" is the word; not force, not ramming through. So just read the bill before you wax lyrical.