CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jacqui Dean): We turn now to the financial review for environment and oceans and fisheries. The Hon David Parker is in the chair. Before I take the committee chair, can I just remind the House that the financial review, as, indeed, the Estimates, works most effectively when it is conducted as a Q and A session of the Minister. The smaller parties may find that taking a five-minute call in the context of a half-hour debate really does eat up that party's time, which is proportional to the House.