When we're talking about this cultural consideration, I wanted to read to the Minister from this submission that was made by the New Zealand Nurses Organisation, which, by the way, do support the bill and the reforms. However, they make a proviso in their submission. On page 6, they declare this: "These rights include [need to have] access to a health system that has culturally competent health professionals to provide [a] quality care that best supports the client". Minister, what we are talking about there is not whether you can quote the articles of the Treaty; what we are talking about is understanding the cultural constructs here. It may be Māori, it could be Pacific, and there are a number of others that are there, but if we don't have people who are appropriate, who are skilled and able, then we miss the point altogether. 