The system is broken. Road users are not getting value for money. Not only are they not getting value for money but they're stuck on congested roads in major centres like Auckland, Wellington, and Christchurch, and even Dunedin. I've even heard that Invercargill has traffic jams. We certainly know that Tauranga has traffic jams. Hamilton has traffic jams. All of this money that is being collected by the Government through road-user taxes, fuel excise duty, and so forth is not being spent on roads. New Zealanders are not getting fair value for money. Now, the roads in Invercargill, it's fair to say, are wide enough to turn around a wagon pulled by a team of eight bullocks. Actually, that makes those roads ideal for all kinds of urban development public transport. 