Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS: The public can have faith in Kāinga Ora, not only because it is delivering on housing for New Zealanders but also, as I indicated in the answer to the primary question, that the chair of Kāinga Ora, Vui Mark Gosche, has made it clear that what has happened is wrong, it cannot happen again, and it is the board's responsibility to ensure that it does not happen again.