Dr JAMES McDOWALL (ACT): I would just ask, is the Minister not concerned by comments by industry, or industry types, like the Motor Trade Association (MTA) that penalties will simply wind up being paid for by consumers, perhaps even on electric vehicles themselves, if they're trying to spread the costs out. I'd also ask, and this relates to a Supplementary Order Paper as well, SOP 119, but, you know, adjusting it slightly, why wouldn't the Minister consider creating at least a stand-down period of, say, five years, for example, for the rural sector and for tradies, just to allow the manufacturing, allow the sector to actually create new vehicles and do a bit of catch up so this is actually a little bit more relevant. 