And they can quote Heather Simpson as much as they want with the health and disability review, but, of course, the recommendation of the Heather Simpson report was to reduce 20 DHBs to eight to 12. Not take a wrecking ball to 20 DHBs in the middle of a pandemic, and in winter. And here we have them saying, "Trust us, we're going to throw money at this. We've actually got a pretty poor record—KiwiBuild, Auckland light rail, the Auckland Harbour Bridge, mental health, the list goes on." 