KIERAN McANULTY: We hear the scaremongering tactics of those yelling over there and saying that intervention is not the way to achieve good wages—the free market, that's what that is. That stuff was debunked years ago. The trickle-down theory is what we're hearing. If we took the alternative approach that's being proposed to this bill here, what we would see is wages going backwards in real terms, conditions being dismantled like we saw over many, many years. And this bill brings in a very simple, technical change that allows the Government to then actually achieve what that party has been giving lip-service to for many, many years, and that is pay parity.