Dr DUNCAN WEBB (Labour—Christchurch Central): Thank you, Madam Speaker. I enjoyed that speech from Julie Anne Genter; thank you very much. It's important, I think, to just affirm what she said, which is that what's needed here is not some chest beating, and she used the word, I think, "dog whistles" to a pretty vile image, which is of brown people in South Auckland, and that isn't the problem here. Gangs across New Zealand come in all shapes and sizes. It's a pity, and I hope I'm allowed to say this, in these unusual circumstances, that Mr Brown isn't able to present his own bill here in the House, because I would very much like to be able to eyeball him across the room and say that we are tired of him, at every opportunity—even the opportunity when someone bought a prisoner a hamburger for a great kapa haka team performance; he leapt on that, and what a vile, vile approach to crime and justice that is.