What's interesting also, again, is another quote, the Prime Minister, the Speech from the Throne on 8 November 2017, a commitment: "This Government will put child poverty at the heart of Government policy development." There's a poverty of spirit from this Government to ignore and extinguish the voice and the views of our children, their interests, their concerns which have not been centred at the heart of these two bills. Again, I quote the Prime Minister: "To deliver genuine change for children, transparent mechanisms are needed to hold the Government to account". Every effort from Opposition, importantly from our New Zealand public and those voicing the concerns of our New Zealand children and State welfare care, ill care, those who've been abused—transparent mechanisms? I think not. Quote again from the Prime Minister: "If we put child well-being at the heart of what we do, then the well-being of all New Zealanders will be lifted."