The conversation was also too—I know the Hon Peeni Henare will know this—that in 1840, when Henry Williams, the missionary, was commissioned to translate Te Tiriti o Waitangi at that time from English to Māori, and Māori to English, he referred to the book of Ephesians 2:14-18, in the New Testament, where it talked about the dividing wall of hostility between Jew and Gentile being brought down but by the blood of Christ, on the cross of Christ. And so the word "kawenata" was the word "covenant", and we will hear many times the word "kawenata". It's a covenant relationship; it's a sacred relationship. And it's the sacredness about the reasons why he protested, and wanted others to protest, about the name of Jesus being removed from the prayer.