That gives rise to the issue of how New Zealand is going to pay for it. How are we going to pay for this staggering increase of debt? We're going to be running deficits at a Crown level, a Government level, for the next four years, totalling just over $100 billion. It is unbelievable. And the big question is: how does the Government pay that money back? That is why we're very concerned about making sure New Zealand is in a position where it can pay that and not necessarily revert to higher taxes and certainly not to a capital gains tax.