Hon NANAIA MAHUTA (Minister of Local Government): I've seen hundreds of pages of detailed modelling and research that shows that all communities in New Zealand, including Auckland and Whangārei, will be better off under the Three Waters reform proposals. It's surprising to hear local mayors not supporting the reforms, given that yesterday I released council-specific information that showed that average household costs per annum in 2051 in Auckland of $1,910 would be reduced to $800. Then, in Whangārei, they would be reduced from $4,060 to $800. [Interruption] But that's not all—