Hon ANDREW LITTLE: I'm not quite sure what surge model the member is referring to, except to say that when there is an outbreak there is necessarily disruption to health services. If it is contained and local, that disruption can be confined to the particular hospital or hospitals in that region. If it is more widespread, then other hospitals may be affected. The reality is in the response to a pandemic such as we have seen, when there is a risk or a reasonably high probability that there will be a high number of admissions to hospital and to ICUs, hospitals clear their planned care lists so that both space, or beds, and personnel are available to provide the care that is needed.