Hon TIM MACINDOE: Thank you, Madam Chair. I've listened carefully to your explanation as to why you would wish to invoke Speaker's ruling 117/2, but I would respectfully suggest to you that it shouldn't be applied in this case, because while as we who were there at the time remember the Auckland governance debate and the endless sort of succession of dates there, this is not a comparable situation. And in fact, the explanatory note that is in the Speaker's ruling there notes in brackets, "A series of amendments to change a date ruled out of order after an amendment to change the date had been defeated." They were all substantially the same apart from the fact they were moving one day backwards in time, as I recall. 