Hon NANAIA MAHUTA: Well, it's been pleasing to hear that there is still a very diverse view out there. However, let me remind the House that this issue is not simply about local elected representatives; it's about the communities they serve and the benefits back to ratepayers. But if I go into many of the comments that have been provided, the Water New Zealand chief executive, Gillian Blythe, has said, "It's been clear for a long time that there is an urgent and serious need to address issues of aging and poorly-performing infrastructure as well as poor service delivery in some parts of the country … The establishment of four professional entities to manage three waters will unlock many of the barriers that have led to serious infrastructure deficit across much of the country." But if we look across the local government community: Porirua Mayor Anita Baker said, "I am pleased the Government has stepped up and made this decision as we owe residents and ratepayers the truth—and the truth is, without reform, the Council does not have the resources or borrowing capacity to deliver the 3 Waters to an acceptable standard. The cost of doing so is in the billions. Porirua City [Council] has already put aside $800 million over the next 30 years—and that's not even half of what's needed." If I go down to the South, Dr Te Maire Tau, co-chair of Te Kura Taka Pini says, "The government's reform of three waters will help ensure water services for communities that are safe, high quality, and equitable, while improving outcomes for the environment … It is common ground that the status quo is unsustainable for the health of not only our people, but also our environment and waterways,".