Hon POTO WILLIAMS (Minister of Police): Meitaki maata e Vaa Tuatua. In a rare misstep for that member, he has taken my quote out of context! I was commenting on an interview with Harry Tam where he failed to talk about the harm that's caused to women and children who try to escape gangs and where he failed to talk about the harm that meth causes to communities. That's what I have expressed to the Prime Minister and to this House—that we can't simply arrest our way to success. That's why this Government will always be tough on crime and tough on the drivers of crime. The programme the member refers to gets to people that other drug rehabilitation services simply don't reach or can be effective with. This approach isn't new; it's based on a programme the National Government developed for the Notorious chapter of the Mongrel Mob.