But when there is that huge power, both economically and, it would seem, increasingly in population if we are to believe the position put forward by the sponsor of the bill, then why be afraid of the democratic process? Because that gives a greater mandate to anyone sitting at that table wanting to do things. I think there's a real question that needs to be asked about why that's not something that Ngāi Tahu have embraced, rather than coming to us and saying, "Well, we're not sure that we can get all our people to agree in sufficient numbers to actually get someone who wants to represent us on to the council, so would you just let us have our own representative?" That's really the question that's being answered in this bill and it's not appropriate. It's not at all appropriate. 