GARETH HUGHES: He's a YouTuber and a podcaster. Well, the thing is that that member didn't list a single New Zealand YouTuber or podcaster. Now, if we're going to see New Zealand stories actually told in our media—and I get the member's point that there's a whole bunch of different content platforms where we consume media—we've actually got to support it. That's why the Green Party can't support this legislation, because we want to strengthen, enhance, and greater fund public broadcasting.