The fifth thing which we ought to bear in mind is the longstanding challenge that goes back to John Banks' days of relocating the naval resources out of Devonport, freeing up that estate for housing, providing an opportunity for new entrants into the navy to be able to afford to live as they join the forces as ratings. The pathway leads north. That's why all of the mayors, all of the civic leaders, all of the community advocates, and all of the senior business identities have joined a programme called Kia Kaha.