Hon DAVID PARKER: Thank you. In respect of Rangitāhua, or Kermadecs, the member asks when I last spoke with northern iwi Te Aupouri, Ngāti Kuri, and a third, whose name I forget—I apologise for that forgetfulness. In fact, I've spoken with representatives of all three iwi in the last week. When would have been the last time I spoke with them? Probably, with two of the three, I would have spoken with them during the prior month. Have I spoken with other parties? Yes, including Te Ohu Kai Moana Trustee Ltd (TOKMTL). Is there a prospect of this being finalised this year? That's possible. Is it certain? No. I think that answers that question.