It is connected with colonisation. And I'm reminded that it was the Pacific Phosphate Company which controlled the early phosphate trade in Nauru, Banaba, and also in the Makatea. And for me on a personal level, the issue is around the commodification of the environment. It is around how capitalism was the engine for colonisation, but it was also about the extraction of surplus labour of young Pacific Islanders who would go to mine that phosphate. And I know that on a personal level because my grandfather was sent to the Makatea Island—one of those islands—to mine phosphate at the age of 14. I've got a kid that's 14 years old; that's high school ages. So that's just previously after World War One—the extraction of surplus labour from Pacific Islanders to mine phosphate to fuel the dairy boom here in Aotearoa New Zealand.