Tell me what anyone who was an objective or subjective watcher of that would have seen—"Wow! Aren't our public servants pretty good? Isn't our Public Service pretty good?" So anyone who would dare to criticise the fact that we are rebuilding that Public Service, we're making sure that those professionals who kept this country safe, who, when we had the leadership—we had the leadership of the Rt Hon Jacinda Ardern. But she, like any leader, is as good as the tools she has, as the troops she has, as the people she has, and she showed, and we showed, and New Zealand saw, that we have good people.