Now, this submission was significant for me in many ways, but one is because this submission was from a group that I used to head up and lead. It was from a Christian organisation that I came out to a number of years ago, as leader. We were a conservative—as was said, it supported conversion practices in the past and had to deal with this. I've had to deal with this, they had to deal with this, and we came to a place where they talked about discussion, about knowledge, and about light and understanding which brings wisdom, and with that it brings wellness. 