The Minister, throughout this entire debate, has never addressed the question: how will this reform get better treatments to more New Zealanders faster? That has been missing from this entire debate. And I have spoken to doctors who have simply laughed when I've asked: how will this reform help you in your job? They said it won't—it won't. It won't lead to faster access to treatments for everybody. Patients won't see better, quicker access to more modern medicines—they won't. Rural doctors have no idea how this will make access to rural patients easier. It's all been about co-governance of administration, and the people have been forgotten. And we've forgotten about the outcomes.