Hon NANAIA MAHUTA: There's a number of legs in that question, but if I could plead with the House for, perhaps, a little longer answer, yes, we do agree with the precautionary approach, and it was a part of our revised mandate. Secondly, the reason why we're participating in the ISA is to ensure that we're taking a position that is consistent with New Zealand's own approach to deep-sea mining. Thirdly, the way in which we're advocating for a high standards environmental protection framework will set a threshold that, in effect, must be adhered to in order for any seabed mining to take place. 