What we do know is that the use of gene-editing technology has the potential to deliver medical treatments that are currently unavailable in New Zealand. We heard from the Malaghan Institute, who told us that some of the gene-edited treatments for aggressive cancers that are available as of right in Australia and that save hundreds of lives every year are not available in New Zealand because of the regressive, backward-looking laws that mean we can't use a genetic technology outside of the laboratory in New Zealand. And this law, the Hazardous Substances and New Organisms Act, is the main reason why we can't do it. 