But to draw the analogy to the previous conversation, we wouldn't try and deal with changes in the Fonterra payout via the emissions trading scheme; it's a separate thing and it itself has impacts, and we try to manage those impacts through a variety of Government policies. In terms of lamb, you're talking about 3c per kilo in lamb in 2025, and if you compare that to the fluctuations in the farm-gate returns for lamb of about 100c per kilo over the course of the 2018-19 season alone, you're talking about a 1 percent variance versus the kind of business as usual variances. So the costs really are absolutely minimal.