The second issue that I'd like to put on the table sort of builds, again, on Christopher Luxon's comment around problem definition. In the second reading, Minister, we heard a number of speeches from those of us on the Māori Affairs Committee who talked to the fact that a number of Māori, be they iwi or hapū, in various guises, have sat down with local government and reflected on the historic constraints of rates arrears on their particular commercial opportunities and have come to agreements with councils as to how the council could assist them in being able to deliver on those commercial visions through rate relief. And, Minister, that has happened and continues to happen today. So again we ask the question that if Māori land has attracted rates and has not, because it's unproductive, been able to pay those rates and those rates have accumulated over time—if Māori have the ability today to sit down with local government to work out mechanisms to write off those arrears and then partner with local government to create potential commercial models that work for local Māori, then what is the problem definition?