So it's no surprise that the surplus is pushed out another year; it's no surprise that a $2 billion surplus has now evaporated, like a mirage, into a $2 billion deficit; and it's no surprise, when you think about the hyper-spending levels that we've now got more Government debt—it's nearly tripled; I mean, Government debt has tripled to $173 billion. And the problem with that is there's no modern monetary theorist—you actually have to pay the interest on the debt, and that bill is almost $5 billion a year, and that means that that is twice what we spend on our police force. So that means that Kiwis cannot get better public services as a result of that debt, because of his out-of-control spending addiction. 