They said that "Engaging in conversion practices is often not a choice."—there is a lot of coercion—and that the difference between parenting and subjecting a child to conversion practices is different. The Young Nats don't want to see parents being prosecuted, but they clearly believe that there is a difference here—and I support them in that statement—and also that prohibition of these practices does not impact religious freedom: "There is a substantial difference between expressing a religious principle and subjecting an individual to conversion practices." Thank you very much, Mr Speaker.