And that's where it starts. These conversations do start in the home. It is still really nerve-wracking to come out as a young rainbow person in our community today. If you think that it's all gone, it's not. The pressure is just as hard for somebody that has to have a challenging conversation with a person in their house who's either going to do two things: go, "You're a wonderful person. Let me give you a hug.", or "I don't want to talk to you. You'd better think about packing your bags." And that's not the New Zealand that I want.