Hon JACQUI DEAN: —which is—well, Tracey Martin says, "So do I." Well, she should know better then, shouldn't she? Because that is the impact of this emissions trading bill. If farmers, if the agriculture sector, are forced to depopulate to make their operations affordable under the ETS, that will be the impact on small communities, because it is not just the farms and the farmers themselves; it's everybody else in those communities. It is absolutely the lack of confidence in those communities, and we all know what that means. Those of us who live in small communities have seen it during droughts: the supermarket doesn't trade as much, people leave the district, retail suffers, and people leave town in search of better opportunities.