The problem is that this is, essentially, a fiscal black hole for local government. While we understand your heartfelt and compassionate approach to these families, to these whānau, who want to develop their land and feel this is a big barrier to walking through the doors of the council—and I can only imagine what it is like when you discover an unpaid parking ticket in your glove box and you realise it has probably been referred to justice and it is going to cost you a lot more. I know that sinking feeling. I'll admit to having a parking ticket, but no more than that in my life, OK?