Hon JAN TINETTI (Minister of Internal Affairs): on behalf of the Minister for Social Development and Employment: I can give the member over there some confidence that this did not come out of thin air. This actually was part of the recommendations from the Welfare Expert Advisory Group's (WEAG's) report in February 2019, and, again, that did not come out of thin air. The WEAG did a lot of research and analysis around their recommendations. They did a huge amount of consultation and they went out and worked with different groups throughout the country and looked at what was working and what was not working for those groups, and could see very clearly that this very small part that we're talking about here today was not working for different groups. They particularly highlighted the women who it was not working for. But also, once recommendations were being made and officials were working through, again, this wasn't just taking that recommendation and saying to this recommendation, "We'll just take it and implement it and put a bill around this." There was some research that was done with control groups—