This is where I want to speak directly to the Hon James Shaw. That member has broadly agreed with many of his colleagues on the opposite side. He said, "The waka-jumping provisions that I will be voting down are obnoxious and anti-democratic.", and that "The Green Party executive made a decision some time ago that we would not exercise as a party this piece of legislation." He went on to dispassionately observe that when they—meaning the National Party—went through all that trouble with Jami-Lee Ross they didn't exercise the opportunity to use this legislation. And those comments are the reason I'm singling him out. There is no need to read into what I'm saying with any specific allegation or gossip. I'm singling him out because he got up and he flogged the Hon Dr Nick Smith for being unprincipled, but I'm not interested in the National Party's principles on this matter, after sitting through the select committee; I'm interested in what he had to say. And so what did he say?