I particularly want to say that because, actually, in one of the submissions that came through—this is from the Pasifika Health Alliance—it talked about the number of Māori, Pacific, and Asian births through abortion. From 1998 to 2018, Māori in particular had 76,067 aborted deaths, in comparison to all other causes of death for Māori babies—61,641. That is a significant amount. For Pasifika, it's 39,957. That's the reason why, in regards to this SOP, it's actually giving some due consideration. I don't believe that the example that the Minister gave was actually considerate, when it was quite clear that the member Joanne Hayes had clearly stated, in her explanatory note, there are circumstances where there are actually risk factors that are there, that they can be considered under two particular Acts which provide care and responsibility, discretion that is available to them, and I think that's important.