Hon GRANT ROBERTSON (Deputy Prime Minister) on behalf of the Minister of Local Government: Yes, including the statements that there is widespread agreement that the status quo is unsustainable and that the case for change is urgent, that it is irresponsible to not act given that we all know that this issue affects every New Zealander and, as we've seen, can cause serious health issues and even death. I've seen an alternative put forward by the member's party that would deliver safe drinking water, ensure value for money—an estimated $180 billion investment over 30 years—but that has not been made available. I also stand by the statement that families and communities who suffer when three waters infrastructure fails are not interested in endless debate; they want action.