Hon TRACEY MARTIN: So if there have been—Ms Dowie, let's have a constructive conversation rather than screeching across the House—assets that have been given by the Invercargill Licensing Trust or assets that have been gifted by other means, there is an ability to ring-fence those for that polytech. But if those assets were bought with taxpayers' dollars, they are taxpayers' assets, and surely—surely—the National Party is not talking about putting into private hands or into a private trust taxpayers' assets. Surely, they are not.