Hon CARMEL SEPULONI: Despite the fact that we made the substantial investments through the wage subsidy, there were still a number of people that lost their job at the time. That did result in more people coming on to benefit and then needing to seek out support through the Ministry of Social Development (MSD) and the case managers to be able to be redeployed or to find employment as quickly as possible. We worked with more numbers than we have had for quite a period of time due to the significant event that we've been faced with, but I'm very relieved with the fact that 2½ years after the pandemic hit, we are currently in a situation where we have 11 percent of our working-age population on benefit, when that compares to 13.2 or 13.5 percent 2½ after the global financial crisis hit.