Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: People will make business decisions based on a whole variety of different factors. I do want to acknowledge that the New Zealand tourism industry is experiencing quite a lot of difficulty as a result of the closure of the border at the moment. I do want to note, however, that a removal of restrictions on the New Zealand side without a corresponding removal of restrictions on the Australian side may result in an export of tourism dollars away from New Zealand to Australia, not necessarily tourism dollars flowing the other way.