Hon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (National): Point of order. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Thank you for the ruling, and I agree with you that the role of the presiding officer is indeed an occasionally thankless and always difficult one. McGee and Speakers' rulings also go on to say that the voice vote isn't a contest for loudness, it's not automatically the right of the majority to have it declared; otherwise we're wasting our time on the consideration of various parts of a bill. My concern with the way in which the ruling is worded is it's very difficult for members of the committee or the House to know whether a presiding officer has indeed made a mistake or whether it was his or her intention to call the way that they did. One needs to rely on the words meaning what they mean. Standing Orders provide for this.