It's interesting. I've learnt a lot about Māori land and laws, and how the whole thing interacts and connects. It's complex—there's the word. Having the Chatham Islands in my patch, we're just going through the Treaty claims settlement process with the Moriori and Ngāti Mutunga o Wharekauri and getting an understanding about how when people land there, they go, "There's plenty of land"—lots of gorse too, but lots of land none the less—"owned by Māori and tied up with"—