So people who are listening at home might think, "How on earth could you have a political debate about the collection of statistics?" Some people might think that it was a particularly uninspiring area of policy. Well, actually, it's critical, and let me just give you one example. I saw recently a wonderful movie, the movie Whina, a biography of the life of Dame Whina Cooper. One fascinating scene that was described—and it was a real part of her life—was when she became the president of the Maori Women's Welfare League in Auckland, and in order to find out about the true state of the welfare of Māori women in that city, they actually went out as the league and did their own census. They collected data that the statistics department wasn't collecting, and they forced the debate. Up until that time, a lot of the statistics that New Zealand had collected had been administrative data, and the problem with administrative data—that is, data of people that have already engaged with a Government department—is that the people who most need to have a light shone on them by official statistics aren't included. 