So you can speak to the principle of a religious belief, but not if it is intended to change the mind of the individual. Yet we would argue that most religious principles and beliefs would actually speak against a change in sexual identity, and therefore makes understanding what can be spoken about, and what cannot, ambiguous. It's rather Orwellian. We believe that this bill, in its current format, only allows freedom of expression to run one way, and that those that have differing views will be in fear of prosecution for expressing them. Another of ACT's founding principles is based on freedom of expression. In a free society, this must be promoted, protected, and preserved, without restriction, other than for incitement, criminal nuisance, or defamation. Those that seek conversion advice, that question their identity, should be able to do so freely, and those whose advice has been sought should be able to give their advice just as freely, without fear of prosecution. It simply must run both ways. 