PENNY SIMMONDS: Oh, thank you—that the teachers showed their concern about the consultation not being real, that the Minister has stepped in when the courts have flagged that the consultation wasn't real. And does he believe that this is going to resolve or create an even worse division between the teachers and the Teaching Council in terms of a lack of trust, lack of faith, and concern that the consultation, when the Teaching Council does undertake it, will be nothing other than a sham—as we have seen with numerous changes to the Education Act, under this Minister, where a consultation has taken place and submissions have been received, and the Minister has decided that 29 percent of the submissions for it is an overwhelming majority. Does he think that he might be perpetuating a feeling amongst educators, be it at compulsory or tertiary or, indeed, early childhood level, that the Minister is not genuinely interested in consultation with the sector?