Hon SCOTT SIMPSON (National—Coromandel): Thank you, Madam Chair. We've learnt quite a bit, actually, in this debate, so it's useful and I thank the Minister for his indulgence in giving us an insight into his thinking on some of these subjects. But I want to come back to this question of prorating because it is an issue, and it is an issue that exists currently, but is only going to be exacerbated by these changes that are being proposed by this piece of legislation. Notwithstanding that the Minister has made the point that sick leave for a part-timer under this legislation is available only on the day that that part-timer would normally work, the simple reality is that that 10 days is available and there will be cases and instances where it will be used. I know from my own personal experience as an employer and a business manager that there are some employees who manage, every year, to use every single day of their entitlements, and there are some, equally, who manage simply not to use any of it. The balance probably is somewhere in the middle, and that's the practical reality. But what this legislation does is it upsets that balance disproportionately against smaller businesses. 