Hon ALFRED NGARO: That's right—tino rangatiratanga. It has the elements of that, right? It's power to the people, enforcing the ability for people to choose. Then they said to me, "So what is the record that National could hold up with?" Well, we had the unveiling of Dame Whina Cooper, who was also too a champion, a person who could be trusted. She was also the president of the Māori Women's Welfare League. But when did that begin? Under a National Government in 1951, in granting $1 million, under Sid Holland, to the league to establish the Māori Women's Development Fund. Te Wānanga o Raukawa, Te Wānanga o Aotearoa—1981 and 1993—under a National Government. Why? Because it gives power in the hands of the people—in this case, to Māori—to make the decision to do what they should do. The establishment of Te Māngai Pāho in 1994, the establishment of the Māori Television Trust, and even funds for the community-based Māori language initiatives in 1998; this is what you call putting trust in the hands of the people—mana motuhake, tino rangatiratanga—in other words, empowerment to the people. That is not what is being seen in our country today. That is not what is being seen. Why? Because this Government is about a socialist ideology. It's "power to the State" not "power to the people". And for them to keep saying that they are the people's party, that is not true—that is not true. Why? Because, under this Government and under its history, there have been more things that have been achieved, even if we talk about it.