But I did ask around a number of people across the country at early stages of this proposition. On balance, it's probably 50:50 or more. Most of the farmers were uncomfortable with this trade and opted to take what is our position—not the leadership, the leadership endorses my position that, on balance, my job as the Minister for Agriculture is to ensure that the incredible work that has been done through generations upholding high standards of animal welfare is not lost through what we see as an increasing trade and increasing incidents of live exports across the globe. Whether it be in sheep or in livestock, because over half of the boats used in international trade are refurbished boats that are old, that would otherwise be scrapped, but they're then refitted—yes, they are refitted—but in all sorts of ways. Some are OK, many are not.