TODD MULLER: And, from our perspective—a close-run thing—the reason we are supporting it through to the first reading is because, to all those forest owners watching, to all those contractors, to all those small-forest lot owners, when you are looking at this, at least you know that we will be able to facilitate with you a select committee process where your voice will be heard. He didn't even want a select committee process; he wanted it in urgency, but we have at least an opportunity where the National Party will be able to hear your perspective. Now, it won't be the Primary Production Committee; it will be the Environment Committee. It will be Scott Simpson. But you'll get a good hearing, and you'll get a National Party that will ask the right questions and expose what actually sits behind this, which is another Shane Jones crusade.