Hon DAVID BENNETT (National): Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm just very disappointed in the couple of words that the Minister used in her answer. She mentioned the words "unnecessary expense". Now, I'd like the Minister to explain what she actually means by "unnecessary expense", because that implies that the democratic process of a council—or if somebody brought a petition to a council, it would be seen as an unnecessary expense for that council to go through. I find it completely incredulous that the Minister would say that. We have a political system that is based on democracy, and that's why we have some of the most senior and respected members of our political system—