Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: On behalf of the Minister, with respect, I say that I do not agree to that and what I further say to those mayors is that this Government is committed to making sure that New Zealanders have safe drinking water, effectively and efficiently managed storm and waste water, and to making sure that we save money for ratepayers. I think all of us would agree that those are good aims. We will continue to work with councils on the final development of the proposal.