Willow-Jean Prime also mentioned the fact that when someone asked, "Why not just opt for Māori Wards or constituencies?" It doesn't work like that for everyone. This is about mana whenua and not specifically about all Māori. So when we talk about ECan in terms of what their goals are and what their aspirations are for the way that they operate, I think there's a couple of other things that we really need to bear in mind as well. The council only has one iwi with mana whenua throughout its region, and for this reason, the council prefers a direct appointment, as their reflection of Ngaī Tahu as mana whenua. It's also not about special privileges. And I find some of the contributions that have alleged special privilege, or used the concept of special privilege, and have really almost crossed that line to be quite discomforting. Ngāi Tahu appointees do not come at the expense of elected members, and that's really clear.