Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS (Minister of Housing): What those increased employees are doing is finally building some public houses in this country. Actually, what I invite the member to have a look at—a very detailed look at—is the cost of construction per employee under the previous National Government of Housing New Zealand compared to what it is at Kāinga Ora. It is of magnitudes different in terms of the much less cost. Of course, Kāinga Ora has also had to hire more tenancy managers because we've added to our housing stock, not decreased it as the previous Government did.