CHRIS PENK (National—Kaipara ki Mahurangi): Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm just keen to get from the Minister, please, in relation to clause 7, which is, coincidentally, amending section 7 within the Care of Children Act 2004, which is, of course, legislation that's being amended by this Part 1—I'm just curious to have the Minister's comments on the record in relation to the appointment of the lawyer. The philosophy seems to be that it should be a person who is suitably qualified to represent the child, and I think that certainly makes sense as far as it goes, and, of course, a number of criteria are outlined for that—personality, cultural background, training, and experience. Our friend from the ACT Party has stated her view on behalf of ACT that there should be a more general qualification or appropriateness standard applied, as opposed to being quite so prescriptive as that.