The problem that we have with people like this man is that he used that right and then used it against New Zealand, therefore actually putting at risk many other people who are very genuine refugees, who would then say that some New Zealand - born people might look at them differently, might look at them suspiciously. That would be a very bad thing to happen—very bad for our country, very bad for our community. When we had the terrible situation of the mosque massacres in March 2019, that situation led people to believe that, and after the royal commission's report that the security agencies had been too closely watching what they believed to be Islamist terrorists—in other words, extremists—rather than looking to white supremacist extremists. The fact is, quite clearly, all extremists are a concern when they advocate for the death or killing or harm to others based on their ethnicity, their gender, or their beliefs. 