That's one of the first questions in this debate and throughout the evening that we've got to be examining. We found out about this, what, Mr Bayly, last Thursday, last Friday? When did the Minister, or the Speaker, who is responsible for the appropriation for the independent Offices of Parliament, first find out that this was an issue? And why didn't they say anything about that? We've just gone through a whole Budget process. There was an Estimates review. Yes, look, I preface this comment with an agreement with Mr Robertson, Mr Bayly, and Dr Russell: I have the highest regard for the Office of the Auditor-General and for Mr Ryan, but we've got to know more about when this was first raised. Why was this not made aware to the Governance and Administration Committee when they reviewed the Budget Estimates? Was a Budget bid put in for an increased appropriation in order that Mr Ryan could meet the market and save, not lose, some of the 27 auditors that over the last year or so he has lost? So why wasn't this raised? Was the Budget bid put in? Was it turned down by the Government?