Hon GRANT ROBERTSON: In answer to the first part of the question, it is worth reminding the member that, as a percentage of GDP, the spending that the Government has been doing over the last couple of years is very comparable with what the previous National Government did off the back of the global financial crisis. In fact, in 2009, as a percentage of GDP, National's spending was 34.7 percent; for Labour in 2020 it was 34.3 percent. For National in 2010 it was 33.8 percent of GDP and for Labour it was 31.7 percent of GDP. Governments from time to time face crises like this. It is important that we use the balance sheet of the Government to support New Zealand businesses and households.