Hon ANDREW LITTLE: —and they have been doing that for some years. The member opposite says, "But they're breaking the law." But Mr Brown, they've been breaking the law for many, many years over many, many substances. The whole head in the sand approach, which is "We should just catch up with them and we should come after them with a big book and put them before the court and we should prosecute them and charge them and do all those sorts of things." Actually, we've been doing that. We've been doing that for decades, and it doesn't work. It's not changing. If we want to change behaviours, then we've got to take a different approach.