I think it is very important that when we are making our considerations about the content of this bill and the Supplementary Order Papers in relation to it, we do actually observe what the medicine and the science says. I say that particularly in relation to some of the Supplementary Order Papers that touch on the issue of what happens in the post - 20 week period, because when you look at the incidence of abortion at that point, which is a very, very, very small number, and you understand the background of women who seek an abortion at that point, these are wanted pregnancies. These are situations where women, because of their health and possibly sometimes the health of the fetus, are put in that impossible situation of having to make a very, very difficult decision, and adding further requirements and obstacles to that point, or even referring to the idea of a child being born after an abortion, shows a lack of understanding about the reality of women in New Zealand today who seek an abortion. 