Hon CHRIS HIPKINS: Our awareness of the fact that many nurses and teachers sit at the top of their current pay scale is reflected in the fact that over five years, this Government has injected an extra $4.2 billion into pay settlements with those workforces. What the Government is saying is it's time for those at the bottom end of the salary scale, who are not reflected in the settlements reached with those workforces, to get a bit of a break.