And then they say, "Well, the council asked for it." Well, that's good. I'm glad that the council asked for it, but we do note that the council made a deliberate decision, clearly, which I've got here, not to consult with their community and the public on this issue. So the public are the ones who haven't had the opportunity to say. And so why are we worried about this? We're worried because we've heard broader discussions and arguments put forward by Willie Jackson, who has told us that the nature of democracy in this country has changed. And so the nature has changed.