Once the legislation actually gets to select committee, once the call is made for select committee considerations, people have only a few days to do all of it. Overwhelmingly, they're not going to do it. But even if people, with busy lives, who have jobs and maybe kids and all sorts of things going on, managed to get a submission in on this 83 pages of legislation, well, then, they find themselves in a position where they've got to struggle to be heard. The poor members on the Environment Committee, if they're lucky, are going to have a couple of days sitting in urgency hearing one submission after another, trying to compute what people are saying, work out how it is relevant to the bill and what sort of changes they might make to change the bill to improve it, and, of course, they are simply not going to have the time to do it. Why? Because they won't have had time to get advice from their officials at the Ministry for the Environment—because they're part of the process, too. They won't be able to loop those guys in.