Hon POTO WILLIAMS: I've always said that it is our absolute responsibility to ensure that tenants are safe and can live in safe housing. What I do know is that Kāinga Ora have a range of tools at their disposal, including something they have used this year, which is transfers, which they have used quite successfully. I encourage the member, when she has situations that occur like this, to ensure that Kāinga Ora are fully advised and encouraged to support those tenants, and, at the very outset, encouraged to use all of the mechanisms at their disposal.