Hon Dr MEGAN WOODS (Minister of Housing): In answer to the first part of the question, I stand by my full statement, in the context of defending expenditure on emergency housing motels, against Opposition attacks, where I said, "What we don't have is people living on the street or in cars. That's the alternative." And I am yet to hear from the critics of that spend a constructive suggestion of what the alternative is. Stopping spending isn't the answer. The answer is building permanent transitional and emergency housing, and that is exactly what we are doing. In answer to the second part of the question, the Ministry of Social Development (MSD) advises me that they collect data on the people applying to the register at the point of presentation, and in the quarter ending 30 June 2022, 480 applicants on the public housing register reported living in a car at the time they applied. People living in cars is not acceptable, and the difference under our Government is that they don't have to. We acknowledge that there is a housing crisis. We have removed the cap the previous Government set on funding emergency housing places, and we actively work with people to come forward and seek help if they need it. This is the same spending that the member and his party is constantly criticising.