But of course the Government will feel good about themselves by saying, "Well, it's our healthy homes programme." What do they say to the children in those 4,000 families? It could be 20,000 kids living in motels. That's no life for them. And more than that, the waiting list for State houses has grown fourfold from just under 6,000 to just over 24,000. That's an appalling shift in people's housing needs and has the Minister saying, "Oh look, we've got record consents going on." I want to quote to him what he used to quote to us: "No one can live in a consent." In the end, if you don't have the resource to buy the house you're not in good shape.