Chlöe Swarbrick also sort of danced a little jig around the likelihood that the deductibility of interest will be removed at some time in the future, and, again, that is completely at odds with our tax framework. Our taxation framework requires businesses, firstly, to return all matters of taxable income, but then allows them to deduct from that income those legitimate business expenses incurred in the gaining of what then becomes taxable income. Interest is paid by property developers. It's paid by the plumber who goes into debt to purchase her business. It's paid by Rocket Lab if they have gone to the bank. Why on earth, from a philosophical perspective, we would not allow somebody to deduct the full cost of their business expenses simply because they are doing pretty well out of that business is fundamentally wrong. 