And the Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI) needs to work with organisations, like Greenpeace, which have investigated supply chains and gone behind those official documents, because Greenpeace, in its studies on the Brazilian logging, has shown that huge indiscriminate and illegal logging is occurring there. Loggers are after trees like the Ipe tree, which, when it's processed into flooring and decking, can fetch up to US$2,500 a cubic metre. And all of the satellite imagery that Greenpeace and others have shown there is that logging is spreading right into the core of the Amazonian rainforest. And when the logging penetrates, illegal roads go in further, and more logging happens. So we're seeing a huge destruction of biodiversity and an intensification of violence—people terrorised, intimidated, and murdered. And we've had decades of violence because the Brazilian Government has been able to get away with not doing the enforcement and prosecution that's required. There's a weak licensing process in Brazil for forest management plans, there are no field inspections, there are poor estimates of timber volumes in forests, and there are changes to the accounting in terms of sawmills and tree species not being properly identified. 