But I'm just mindful of the submission from the Frame & Truss Manufacturers Association of New Zealand and their view around building products versus building methods. So they're putting together a wall frame or a truss system by utilising a number of different products in terms of the nail plates and the timber, for example, that they might be using to build that, but they are then producing a separate building product, even though they've gone through a method, and they're saying, "Well, is what we've produced a building product or a building method because of the system in which we've done that, and how is that being considered from a definition perspective in relation to this bill?" 