What happened to the Government taking heed of what public opinion and voice is, which is called democracy? And so, it is important—important to stress and emphasise that the Office of the Children's Commission and the Commissioner made submissions to the select committee. Totally dispensed with and ignored. And I quote "That democracy, how can we trust our democratic process when people's voices are ignored?" That is a quote from the Commissioner for Children, Judge Frances Eivers, the advocate, the face, the voice, the representation of New Zealand children's State, in care, welfare experienced voices. 