But not only that, the work that they are doing in partnerships like Whāngaia Ngā Pā Harakeke, and the integrated safety response, which is around dealing with the issue of family harm, which is something that has troubled this country for an awful long time. You cannot do this work alone. This is about working in partnerships. And I'm really proud of the work that the pilots of Te Pae Oranga have demonstrated, that there is a way to divert young people from entering the justice system in the first place. That's the stuff that will actually stop the overrepresentation of Māori and Pacific in the negative stats around the justice system, and I'm really proud of that. I am a socialist, Mr Bennett, and proud of it.