I want to acknowledge the other committee members. The one thing about parliamentary select committees is that they should run independently and they should stand on that independence and that's what makes our democracy strong, and it gives the public confidence, when they come before the committee to make submissions, that the committee will deal with that with a high level of independence. We felt very strongly that the committee came under the control of the Minister, and especially in relation to the fact that we had a critical opportunity to actually hear from two submitters—