COVID has hit, and although it hasn't, in terms of the disease, hit the Pacific, we know that economies are collapsing, and so the focus—and we've been told this by officials even today in the annual reviews—must be aid but also debt alleviation. We can't rely on aid alone, because the devastation to Pacific economies is too huge. So we do have to look at the way we restructure the debts, we use our political democratic influence in international forums, whether it's with the IMF, with the World Bank, or with private banks that own these debts, to lower the interest rates, to lower the cost to Pacific nations who are already absolutely struggling.