So I want to contrast the merits of this bill, which actually hastens access to justice, extends the right to justice and access to expert carers for our children like lawyer for child, to the speech of the Hon Judith Collins, who was the last speaker from the National Party caucus, who, when she was the Minister of Justice, and I sat on the Criminal Bar Association executive, was taken to court in relation to her legal aid policy, all the way up to the Court of Appeal. That policy was found to be unlawful. It was found to be unlawful because the Minister had gone outside of the mandate of the discretion provided by the legislation, the empowering legislation for legal aid, which said that legal aid policy must be made only to provide high-quality legal services for indigent accused. It was found that that Government's policy on legal aid was made for cost-cutting only. That's not good for the nation, it's not good for access to justice for New Zealanders, and, when it comes to the Family Court, it's deeply harmful to children.