PENNY SIMMONDS (National—Invercargill): Thank you very much, Mr Chair. I would like to return to Supplementary Order Paper 157, which is perhaps a subject dear to your and my hearts, the older persons' health strategy—no offence intended, of course—and, Mr Chair, this is a matter that I spoke on earlier today. So my questions to the Minister are around this. Given the crisis that we are seeing in our aged-care sector at the moment, surely a reform process such as this and the Pae Ora (Healthy Futures) Bill would want to have included in it a provision that would prevent the sort of dislocation between the aged-care sector and the district health board (DHB) delivery as it is at the moment. 