So if it wasn't for these caregivers, we really know that these children would face greater upheaval. They would have greater uncertainty, and they would be living much more challenging lives. It is interesting, as you take a step back and reflect on it, that two five-year-olds in this country actually start in very different places and don't have an equality of opportunity. I think it is right that we as the State make powerful interventions in those lives to change the trajectory of where they're going. I remember hearing Bill English speak about the fact that there were 1,500 five-year-olds in State care in any given year, and over the course of them coming up through the age of 35, we'd spend $550 million in support of those children. That's a phenomenal amount of money, but it just underscores the need to make powerful interventions early to change the trajectory and the course of where those lives are going.