Then the legislation talks about inherent values: scientific, cultural, and environmental values, as we heard from the former Minister who introduced the bill and the chair of the Environment Committee, the Hon Eugenie Sage. Well, look, cultural values, or what someone thinks of the land that you farm because of their culture, their background, or how they were brought up, is completely irrelevant to the relationship between the Crown as landowner and the pastoral farmers. This should have nothing to do with decision making about how the land is used. What we should focus on are the scientific reasons why you observe different land management practices.