And here's the other group of people that can't understand it, the one in eight children born into a family with a benefit: New Zealanders who wait, save, and sacrifice so they can bring children into the world with the kind of support that means they get a fair go in life can't understand how people are bringing people and kids into the world while on a benefit. Now, I understand things happen in life, and I think there should be a welfare safety net, but how is it possible that one in eight—not just a few, but one in eight—kids come into this country on a benefit? People can't understand that.