Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: If the member is referring to the fact that unlike other countries, we have not had the extended, extraordinary increases in wait times throughout the pandemic because we managed COVID in a way that allowed people to continue to access healthcare, but now we are using our clinicians in an environment where we are no longer hamstrung by the geographical boundaries of DHBs but are going to maximise the efficiencies of our health system—if that member suggests we shouldn't use clinicians to support that work, that's a matter for him. But on this side of the House, we think that's a good idea.