GREG O'CONNOR: —very tools for which we are now spending our time in this House on members' night. So that is just pointing out that this is something that there is a legitimate use for. Next time anyone who is enjoying a piece of back steak from the backblocks of the Tararuas or the Paparoa on the West Coast, they will know there's a very good likelihood that one of these very things has been used for that purpose.