So what does that say about our people? It says they want to get on with things. And against all odds, our leadership—and of course the allegations of being called sell-outs and all that sort of thing, that goes with the territory; that goes with the territory. Rawiri Waititi knows this, now being a member of the Crown. He refuses to accept it, but he's a member of the Crown; him and Deb, they're staunch as, but we all know. He actually speaks for me now at formal gatherings—got better reo, you see, so I've got to utilise him.