Hon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (National): I thank the Minister for that explanation. I would make three quick points in reply. The Minister describes what he called a live debate between, I think, the Minister, Treasury, and other stakeholders in the question of this. I think that underscores the point that Mr Bayly was making at the end of Part 1 of the debate about the importance of actually not waiting for a bill to be introduced and referred to the select committee before he engages with other parties. That would have been an excellent example of where constructive engagement with the Opposition spokespeople on this point might have actually taken a little bit of the heat out of the situation and perhaps have given members of the select committee a better context to the change that, frankly, we didn't see coming until the end of the select committee process. 