Hon CARMEL SEPULONI: I think the point made by the member is that quite often the expectation is preparation for work; it's not necessarily that they must take up employment. The decisions around that is based on the medical advice that comes through. It's really important that we work with our clients to be able to meet their aspirations. They have an opportunity to re-comply. It goes back to what I said earlier, there are mutual obligations in the welfare system. But we certainly don't take a punitive approach to our clients. 