Rt Hon JACINDA ARDERN: I'm not an epidemiologist, so I'm not going to model on the fly, but as I just explained to the member, even with those countries where you do have vaccinations that have been available for months, we are still seeing hospitalisation rates that rival past outbreaks. And from what our experts have shared with us, that's because it's not necessarily about the percentage, but whether or not you have enough people across different age demographics, different communities, different geographic areas, different ethnicities. That's got to be our measure of success in New Zealand, and that is what we're driving towards.