Well, I will put it to her and this House—let's compare ourselves to Ireland, a country where my family and many other members in this House are from. It has a similar population, another country that is an island. They have 28,000 cases and 1,700 deaths. If we followed the National Party's approach, that could well have been us. So I say to the people of New Zealand, disregard the politicking of the National Party and listen to what Robert Patman has to say: "Opposition for opposition's sake is not the answer in a major health crisis."