Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS: And the member says "What bull." I'm asking him to find one district councillor, one mayor in any part of the provinces of this country, that's not supporting the fund. That's my evidence, not somebody parked up in Epsom who knows nothing about business and never will because he's never been engaged in business. [Interruption] Yeah, both of those members have a similarity: they're cloned in terms of their inexperience. I want to say the PGF has provided the impetus for those in our regions to collaborate, identify obstacles to greater productivity, and in doing so improve the lives of their people. And can I say something: out there in the provinces, there are people who've got hope for the first time because they know that their place in our society is as important as in central Wellington or in central Auckland, or, dare I say it, in Epsom, which exports very little and relies on the rest of the provinces to keep them alive.