We asked why benefits would be increased and were told by the Minister that this would have the twin outcomes of lifting the lowest incomes and increasing economic stimulus. We learnt that the Government had been advised that by early 2021, 490,000 people could have been receiving a benefit, an increase of 100,000 people. This predicted peak was not reached and we discussed actual numbers of people on benefits, including those who work part time, or cannot look for work, or are caring for someone with a condition or disability.