But the most important thing is that the biggest deterrent to criminal offending is of course the probability you're going to be caught. That's where the work we're doing with our police force is so vital: adding more front-line police, creating a special gang unit that is there to address that very insidious problem. That problem started years ago and it started because members opposite when they were in Government totally failed to deal with the massive rise in deportations from Australia and those people coming from a gang background there. The difference between this side of the House and that side of the House is they are very good at puffing their chest out and beating their chest when it suits them on law and order, but they are all talk. They did nothing. They have no new ideas. They're a disgrace.