STUART SMITH: Was it? Yes, that's right. I think it was the ACT member Simon Court. His reference was actually absolutely apt. We also heard from the Green member about a just transition, which actually is code for wealth redistribution. We are not here to support those sorts of policies; we're here to ensure that we can keep the lights on, that we can keep the mill that Joseph Mooney, the MP for Southland, mentioned in his earlier speech that had to curtail its production because of the extremely high cost of electricity, at least.