Donna: Hi Rach, everyone ok your end?
Rachel: Hello Donna! Long time no See! How's my favourite cousin!?
Donna: Not sure, haven't seen Wendy since Christmas.
Rachel: Very funny! How did Oliver get on?
Donna: Well, quite well, I think. He had 5 A levels, 4 A*s and 1 A.
Rachel: Quite well!? That’s fanfuckingtastic!!! You've obviously got the brains on your side of the family!
Donna: Thanks! Well, what about Jay?
Rachel: 3 Bs, he's over the moon! He's got into his course and all set to be off!
Donna: Russell Group, is it?
Rachel: What, sorry?
Donna: I mean, I assume, he's got into a Russell Group university, I mean the others are ok, but really, you know, not that good!
Rachel: I honestly don't know. He got the grades, was accepted and he's going. Simple as. We're all very proud of him, actually. He's saving up for a car now.
Donna: Well, as long as you're all happy with it, that's fine. We can't all be high fliers.
Rachel: Now, hang on a sec, Donna. You're my cousin and we've always got on well, but I'm not going to put my son down and ruin his happiness just because he didn't get bleeding A* grades! 
Donna: No, of course. I'm sure you've been as supportive as you are able to be. I believe in really pushing children to achieve.
Rachel: God, you are really something, Donna! Jay is a happy, confident boy and I leave him to his own devices because I trust him!
Donna: Well, Oliver has downloaded his reading list already and is working through them. The competition to stand out in law is fierce. A little encouragement wouldn't go amiss for Jay.
Rachel: Ok, I've had enough of this conversation! Jay is well adjusted and people like him. That's more than I can say for Oliver!
Donna: Well, we'll see about that in 5 years time when Oliver is earning 6 figures and Jay is still scraping a living doing his weird so-called art!
Rachel: Bye Donna, I think you've said quite enough!
Donna is proud of Oliver for getting good grades. Rachel is happy for Jay as he got into his course. Rachel and Donna have a disagreement on their sons' education.