 When he first started, I mean, they weren't even making $7 an hour. Right. And that included, you know, the retirement insurance. And, I mean, it was tough. You know, it's like, surely, you know, they've got to pay more for people doing the job they did. And, I mean, he saw things that, I mean, would literally curl your hair, you know, over the years. And when he got ready to retire...