 And even a secular audience, somebody will mention Jesus. And I'll say, well, for me, he is the greatest communicator ever. I mean, after all, he started a movement 2,000 years ago that's still signing up recruits today. And even if you're, you know, I'll say to a secular, even if you're not a follower of Christ, wouldn't we all do well to see what we could learn from one of the greatest communicators in history?