 You can try anything once, and if it doesn't work, it'll literally evaporate into thin air. Well, with the Internet, that's no longer true. But in 1990, that was true. That's right. And so we went in. We recorded a bunch of programs related to parenting. But, Wayne, one of the programs we recorded was about Josh's time in Russia and the meeting he had with a group of Russian Baptist pastors where they asked him,