 that the Great Depression ended. There was some minor improvement in the first term, but then other things happened that were setbacks. It sort of went, but it never, it wasn't like, you know, we had one, I think one out of four people were out of work, or one out of five was a staff member. Oh, it was terrible. But it never really improved a great deal from that number through the whole time, but the perception is what lingers, you know, with the fireside chats and