 Like he was telling, there was a story the other night where he had a real crappy game. And he was a grown man at that point. And after the game, his dad called him in the locker room. Said, be in front of my house at 5 a.m. And he said, okay, okay. Didn't back talk nothing. And he said, instantly, he said, you don't say anything to my dad, but yes, sir. So he showed up at his house, 5 a.m. His dad was taking him somewhere. And Charles, or not Charles, but Shaq started talking. He said, my dad's a strong man. You don't talk unless you're spoken to.