 I think I laughed. No, you laughed. You laughed. And I said, well, think about it. Let's go have lunch and talk about it. So the Ray Malek part was we just needed a studio. Is that why you contacted him? Yeah, we needed a studio. Well, because he hired me. And so he was the first editor-in-chief here at 1819. And I had said, Ray, I really think I'd like to do a podcast. Because they said, oh, we're going to have podcasts. We're going to probably do radio in the future. And I was like, I really want to do radio. I've done that before. Yeah.