 When I get through telling you how to call, pick up your phone and call David Ernest. Got two numbers for you, 334-279-7431 or 205-479-0839. There's also a website at retirewithernest.com. So that's three ways you can get up with him. A fourth way would be to go by there and see him. You can do that, too, if you catch him there because he's usually out there.