 Dennis and I for sure went through that when we left Family Life because for 40 years he had been the president of Family Life. He'd hosted the broadcast. He'd been. He started it. He both started it. He got calls every day, people sending books every day and people asking him to speak forever and ever. And he was just constantly saying no. And it was like all of a sudden the spigots got turned off on everything, you know, and we're sitting at home going, well, now what? Yeah. And who are we?