 Probably every other month, it seemed like. And it hasn't changed. Those pictures she has, I was looking through pictures of mine last night. And this is Ephesus as in Letter to the Ephesians? Wow. Where was the Bob Dylan, Van Morrison little get-together whenever they played in Greece in, I think it was the late 80s? I remember, but I don't. I want to say Athens, but I think I'm just spitting that out because it's Athens. But I don't remember exactly where.