 You've said it, but what is interesting about that quote, we see that we're called to be salt and light, and that's really what Richard Dawkins, I think, is saying, is that the Christian faith now is no longer that salt and light and culture, and he sees the ramifications of that, and he misses the Christian faith being the salt and light of culture. Wow, interesting. Thor Ramsey, joining us today, The Honest Atheist, is the book...