 The sourdough, and you put olive oil in it. You mix it in a big bowl, cut it off. I like to tear it because I feel like you have more crevices and stuff to make it crunchy in the oven. And you get garlic, salt, and pepper, and you just mix all of that together, and you're not being shy with the olive oil. And then you lay it out on a sheet pan and put it in the oven until it is super crunchy.