 And it could be the exact same trial in one person. You're like, how are they better? And this person went through the same thing and you don't even want to be near them. And they're mad at their spouse. They're mad at their life. They're mad at God. And so bitterness is a part of all of our lives. We've got Steve Vires back with us today. He wrote a book called Overcoming Bitterness. Every person wants to overcome bitterness and actually get from hurt to a life filled with joy.