 What if we could get it to work? What if we could start a pilot program? And the governor of the state of Ohio at that time was a guy named George Voinovich. And he's now on to his reward. And Governor Voinovich said, we've got to we've got to crawl before we walk and walk before we run. And so we started with a very small program and built it up from there. And it ended up being the definitive case before the United States Supreme Court.