 And we picked a day, and we went up on the south face of the mountain. It was the only road that goes up there. I can even call it a road. It's more like a mule path. It's rocky. It's uneven and very steep. And when you get to the top of it, it's a thick forest on the top. And we had to use our compass. It was the first time I ever had to use a compass to navigate in Arizona to get across the top of it to look at the Sycamore Basin.