 Again, folks are talking to District Attorney Daryl Bailey. Need to hit a quick break here. And when we come back, I kind of want to get into the psychology side of things like deterrence, like the messages you were just talking about. How are those messages sent? When is it most effective? And kind of how that whole process works. Interest in that aspect. So before we hit the break, though, this part of the program brought to you by All Pro Heating, Air and Electrical. And they're at All Pro Heating, Air and Electrical.