 Dr. James Dobson, reminiscing a bit with his good friend Johnny Erickson Tada about her nearly 50 years of ministry and also the brand new book that she's published called The Practice of the Presence of Jesus, based on the writings from the 17th century of Brother Lawrence, a monk who lived in the 1600s, who wrote about pain and wrote about what it meant to be a child of God who understands lowly position and hardship.