 And then he got up and he shut the door of his office and he shared his whole story. And then we began to work out and talk and share and work out and talk and share. And he so helped me. And then he was stuck like the people you talked about. I mean, now he's in a relationship that's not working. He has kids that really are struggling and not doing so well. He's got repair to do with a former family, but he's now walking with God. And he just got stuck, stuck, stuck. And finally I said to him, other than me, who do you really talk to and who are you connected with?