 I'm Rich Barrett. This is Coast to Coast. I am our guest, Jay Widener, filmmaker, and as I said, the Plato of conspiracy theories. And we were talking about that he believes that the moon landings happened at some point, but the video you see, completely done by Stanley Kubrick back in the 1960s, and maybe even subsequent missions as he got a bigger budget and some better special effects. And then we started talking about The Shining.