 And I think to a degree, we were a bit like that. Trent was 17 and Troy was 15 because we just did it at the same time. We thought that would be unfair. We probably should have waited with Troy. But the point is this, that if you can do that one thing, that's great. Some parents didn't do that. They let them have it at 10, 11, 12. But we're going to talk this time and next time because we really want to get into this topic. But it's never too late.