 chuck they don't do the same thing believe me he's like when you eyeball you can evaluate sometimes but a lot of folks look at the four star the five star we got stories you remember randy shannon back in the day the story that they were recruiting off of scout.com rankings um you can eyeball a kid and if you evaluate properly that's the difference between either offering and potentially getting derrick henry and getting a guy like kelvin taylor always thought was a really good tough back