 onto their area where they lived, getting out of the vehicle that Pat Rance was driving. This was in Alabama, so totally goes against Peter Burns for sure that I'll go, no, no, they're everywhere. What they said to me immediately, and I didn't even know what was going on. This was the first time I ever went out. I was just getting some documentary material, and I had been big into studying abductees and the abductions from alien stuff.