 I mean, he's as hard-nosed and blue-collar as you're going to find. What did it make you think about the potential of his tenure in Starkville? Well, similar to you, Cole, I kind of left our conversation pretty impressed. I mean, this is a guy who, right, he was obviously at Ole Miss and Oklahoma, and he's made the stops along the way where he's been in such big programs where he knows what it needs to look like to be successful. Yeah.