 And it can start with one or the other. Like it started with me in our marriage. But then we also were serving our children and then we're teaching our children how to serve each other and how to serve us. That service is a big deal in our family. And in a healthy family, that attitude of service will permeate the family. So wherever you are in the journey, if you're already married, then you ask yourself, who has an attitude of service in our family?