 So how did he get him out? I'm curious. Well, he would just hand us this. We had to run him down in the boat and he would hand us a stick and we would grab the stick and just take the stick and throw him over into the boat. Gotcha. Now that's the difference in noodling, sticking your hand in versus the stick with the hook. I don't think, I just, I couldn't put my hand. Oh my gosh. My thing is, is I just know that like air pockets and stuff like that