 No, I thought, and it's a point I keep dancing around making on the show in different ways. A great interview. I suggest people go watch the podcast. It's the You're Welcome podcast with Michael Malice. He just interviewed Oren McIntyre. Really? On Oren's new book. And they're like, so give me the basic inside of the book. Don't spoil it completely, but we'll spoil it a little bit here, Oren. And his basic point is when you look at, say, somebody like James Burnham, his book in the 40s about the managerial class rising up, is that whether it was communism...