 And no mace, no tasers back then. This is in 1984. We were rolling around on the ground with this guy and we finally got him handcuffed and we were all scraped up. And Carl said, go to the car and get my first aid kit out of the trunk. Okay. I walked back up and I'm putting some antiseptic on my knuckles and I looked over and I'm like, uh-oh. Carl was treating the guy's wounds. He had a scrape on his forehead from rolling around on the ground.