 Can you give me a few examples of what you might diagnose as the term church hurt so that we could all be on the same page before we keep going? Yeah, it's a great question because it's sort of this broad term. And I work with a lot of young people, frankly, on this issue. And when it comes to church hurt, I see it coming out in a couple of ways. One, very literally through the church where someone's come through a church where there's been wounds either...