 and long-term bonds versus short-term bonds and quantitative easing and the feds, the hawk versus the dove. Now, I mean, I get it if you're thinking about a hawk and a dove flying out there, how that works. But when they talk about they're too hawkish and they're too dove-ish, a lot of people, they don't really get it and they don't care. Right now, right at this moment in time, they are hawks.