 And they don't know that at that point. But it hit me that's true of us, right? So as you come in, first of all, let me say welcome to Family Life today. We're so glad you're here. Laurel, never been here. No, never been here. First time. So excited to be here. Yeah, you got the veteran right beside you. I know. Count my blessings. Gary, do you know how many times you've been on Family Life? I don't know how many times, no. But I always enjoy coming because I appreciate what's happening here. Always love having you two. So how did you two pair up to write this book?