 doing nothing they've walked away from the church you know they have i'm not seeing the faith they proclaimed when they were younger how would you encourage them if you don't have a vision of the sovereignty of god and an appreciation for the lord doing 10 000 things that we can't see in a moment it would really would be crippling and discouraging to experience that and so i agree with any mom or dad who has a wayward son or daughter that would be so hard