 I've read about that guy. He said he made a lot of enemies when he produced that. I bring him up, and we can bring up other studies, and as I started looking into, say, the crime intervention stuff, we can look nationally, but it seems to me it does come down to the actual people on the ground in the community. So Boston's going to be very different to police than New York City, and of course Montgomery's going to be even different than Birmingham. There are certain things that are universal, but