 Well, I don't know if you know what a trimmer is or not, but your head bobs. A trimmer? Yeah. If he got upset. Oh, a trimmer. Oh, I see. If he got nervous, his head would start bobbing. So I'm sitting on the couch. He's sitting in his chair with his glasses on. And he said, young man, he called me young man. He said, I understand you want to talk to me about something. And I said, yes, sir. I said, okay.