 And you can get all the opinions there. Like I said, breaking down, easy to see how he got there. So appreciate his time on the Duncan Newsmaker line. All right, we're going to take a quick break. Continue on this Thursday next. Are you suffering with anxiety, depression, PTSD, an eating disorder, or even a substance abuse problem? If it's causing problems at work or with your family, get help now at Insight Mental Health and Wellness. We can help and treat all types of depression and mental issues.