 That ABC interview last Friday night, it was relatively low rated. It did not change the calculus, did not change the dynamic of this race or the situation for Biden. So he's being more aggressive today with this letter, with this phone call, maybe with other interviews in the coming hours, trying to change the dynamic. Yeah, I mean, and it was I mean, it was a little bit of a page out of Donald Trump's playbook calling into a morning show this morning.