 hourly right now okay well that's part of the context right there and that's part of the natural rub is is first of all he's old school as you said he's not really thinking this from a um a traditional kind of ceo mindset he's just he's the owner operator right and he's going great i'll pay for you to go get this additional training but i'm not going to pay you when you're in school i'm paying for the school i think that's a pretty fair deal don't you yeah