 For Martha White, you wouldn't have any self-rising flour. That's right. Well, now, my grandmother made biscuits out of lard. She didn't have to use Martha White's self-rising flour. Her biscuits rose, you know, with the old-fashioned way, the mixture in there, the yeast and all that stuff. Let me just tell you, lard biscuits, you can't beat it. Lard is good. I just don't think lard kills you. You know, if you walk outside, you could get hit by a lard truck.