 Out in front of me, Wills Moore with Agilitas. He was telling us about his client experience. And on the other side of a Zoom call is Brandon Smith. He's the workplace therapist. He's the president of the WorkSmiths. He's the co-founder of the Leadership Foundry. And most important to us today, he's the author of the book called The Author vs. Editor Dilemma. You're listening to What's Working. We'll be right back.