 is really good. He's one of those guys that I like and I enjoy listening to. Well, I always thought that Gene Chizik was good at it. And Gene Chizik does a good job. I mean, they can talk. But there are some little things, nuances about the business that are a little bit different that you are, you know, on a clock. You've got to get your words in quick, and especially on television. And I just wonder how much coaching was done for Nick Saban and how much coaching they do. And I do know that ESPN does some stuff with these different people who come on who are new to it to see if they can do this.