 That was the providence of God. I mean, the board just said, get a young pastor. They had two widows, two pastors who had died of a heart attack, and I qualified because I was young. Things like that, that sort of set them up to want somebody young. When other churches were saying to me in my late 20s, we're not interested, you're too young, you have no experience. Well, Grace Church was a growing and effective church that had two very mature and very fine men as pastors who