 When I did it with, every year I came out with Emmanuel, he always wanted to push our two single beds together in the cabin so we could spend time together. And when we were doing the courage ceremony for David, my dad was out, Emmanuel was out, because they were going to form part of the company of men that David was going to come into. So we set David up into the trees, and on our way back to the cabin, Emmanuel says to me, he says, Dad,