 And they would have been understanding friends because Job loses many family members. He's stripped of a lot of things. So is Naomi. And they both see God's hand in their suffering, which is a big one. How do you get there? And how did Naomi get there? Because when you said she's bitter, I think a lot of us have felt that. There may be some listening right now that are bitter and they're like, how do I dig out of that? How does she dig out?