 um there are kind of a new big mule and i think the universities like the presidents of universities and the boards of trustees at both auburn and alabama are very powerful and then you always get the power company regents bank uh the usual big mules that you see like advertising there's the halftime show at an alabama football game or whatever it is some of the bureaucracy but like it's a different it's always shifting it's never quite stable like a lot of people think it is