 was meant for liberals. And they were the biggest fans. Okay. And so now it's been turned on its head. That's why I was surprised that I liked it. Well, that's why I want to know where the moment, where the red pill we've used that a lot. I want to know that moment. Because I'm almost positive that a number of years ago, I heard him speak and I would not have come away with, this guy's a right-winger.