 So it's kind of like, I like to say, it's like controlled or disciplined clairvoyance. And at what point did you meet Ingo Swann, the late Ingo Swann? So I was brought into the unit on the 1st of August, 1983. And they kept telling me stories that, you know, come January, you're going to go do your training and you're going to meet Ingo Swann. And he's going to scare you to death.