 He said, you don't want me to recruit anybody like that either, do you? And he said, no, sir, I don't. And then Coach Jordan said, Mike, there are some players, you knock them down, they get up. You knock them down, they get up. You knock them down, they get up. And no matter how many times you knock them down, they get up. And Mike was fairly out of his chair with excitement. And he said, and that's the kind of player you want me to recruit, right?