 oh my gosh these people come in and my get out get out they were waving let me ask you one last question i got about two minutes left um you were one of the uh the lead uh creative figures with bill bratton and others in broken windows policing the theory being why are we letting the little stuff go the guy who jumps the turnstile is probably the same guy who's going to rape a woman on the train he's not going to pay the fare he's a criminal you said get him when he jumps the turnstile so he doesn't rape or rob someone