 He came along as part of the package, and then we started working together. That was in 2001, and then we started working together in 07. Okay. Yeah, there's lots of times when you hear the story as well. It's because I followed this girl. Yeah. And, you know, and you've got some background. I want to get to David in a little while and something that you've done with your boys here at this camp because I think that's very important, if not physically, figuratively at times. Yeah.