 Right, right. I mean, we're obviously in the realm of speculation here, but is it possible that these early nuclear blasts at Trinity and so forth, I don't know, ripped open some sort of portal to allow them, the UFOs, these craft to come into our dimension? That's a very good question. Speaking of Jacques Vallée, he said, perhaps these are not objects. Can we think of them as windows? Are they windows to another reality that had been ripped open, or has that