 it's almost it's i don't want to say hubris but there's a certain arrogance you know we're thieves we're the home of mythical oedipus this is where antigone took place this is the great liberator of pamanondas we're his uh successors we're carthage we're the carthage of hannibal that fought the romans for 22 years on their home ground we're constantinople we was we've been here for 1100 years and right in asia