 And that time in that part of the world might be kind of like being a Viking master today. There were a lot of them around. But I hear that in the Masonic organization, there are higher ranks, and they don't tell you who they are and what they are. I don't know about that kind of thing. What are you doing with your phone, Chris? We can't hear you when you do that. Oh, I'm probably holding it a little bit too close.