 And the thing was, there was a guy with him and Lorraine, a young man. He was probably a couple years older than me. And he was sitting next to Ed with a yellow notepad. And I didn't know who he was. And then finally, he looked up at Ed and he asked Ed a question while Ed was eating pizza. And Ed looks back at him and says, you know something, Gerald, you're a real pain in the neck. And I found out later it was Gerald Brittle who wrote