 But this guy's pretty wicked smart. And him and Vivek, by the way, were classmates. I think I did see that this morning. And J.D.'s wife, who I believe is also Indian. I might be mistaken about that. No, I think you're right. She and Vivek and J.D. were all in the same class at Yale Law School. They used to watch Bengals games, Vivek and J.D. at the bar together.