 which simply means if there is no God, then nothing makes any sense. To which he should have said, therefore, there must be a God. But all he said was, well, we need to go back to the 60s and just have the 60s where there's no ultimate meaning. And so whenever you see what man is doing, what communism has done, what Hinduism has done, what Buddhism has done, what Islam has done, what liberalism, secular humanism, and atheism has done, it's a sad, sad story.