 They train the kiddo that they are most important and they have all the power. They can attend a meeting or not because they're a volunteer and they're gifting their time to you. But employees, they clean toilets. They have to deal with unruly customers. They learn a lot of those skills. So one of the things I coach even hiring managers and recruiters, if you want a tricky, fun question to ask, ask that young Gen Z person.