 And somebody would walk in, and she would assume it was one of us or my dad and start talking to them. And when there was no answer, she would turn, and it would be him, and then he would disappear. So it was just really fascinating that he was the one that showed himself, even though I do believe there was a lot more than just one ghost in the house. But later on, when my grandparents passed away, they didn't live very far away.