 Yeah, I love that you brought him up because I think he gets lost a little bit in the history because Roy Kramer, rightfully so, gets a lot of accolades and a lot of credit for what happened in the 80s and 90s. But you needed that individual, like you just mentioned, to bridge kind of where football was heading to where it was, and that was Slive. And he did that masterfully. And like you're talking about with Auburn in 2004, it really wasn't that long ago, and that was –