 stressed about it, you know, but I could kind of sense that it was really heavy on Nana, but his ways are higher than our ways. His thoughts were not our thoughts. And so we have to be open to, well, if it's not this way, is there a way other than we were then open? I think we were more open, especially when the pandemic hit. The pandemic was when we started thinking about adoption more seriously, I think. Is that right? I mean, would you say? Yes.