 They have a sister who's married to Tom Crean, who's a well-known college basketball coach. So you talk about a family that has achieved greatness in the coaching world. Jack Graham said that when they were growing up, their father used to gather them in the morning before they went to school. And he would kind of get all excited. He would say, children, has anybody got it better than we do? And they would all shout, nobody, nobody.