 It is to the next level when it comes to somebody with no college education, no degree. They have a college education, but they don't have a degree from a legitimate college. You don't need one. You don't need one. And those two ladies, people need to call them. Again, they do a Zoom every Wednesday at 3 o'clock. They're probably on the end of the phone tonight. Yeah, it'll be on Pacific time, Wednesday, 3 p.m.,