 I can tell you what Brett Yarmark said at that press conference to start the Big 12 media days, very much that we're open for business, like he did everything but take out a big flashing neon sign. And he also talked about the idea of private equity, Chuck. And that's the only way this makes any sense. Because if you're FSU and you're Clemson and you leave, the money from the ACC and the Big 12 is not in any meaningful sense that much difference.