 And he said, if I can't sing that in the midst of what I've just gone through, then I can't sing that when things are going great. And so instead of saying when we get here, saying as we go. And again, being of a certain age, you realize that there really are seasons. And when you're 30 and haven't experienced a lot of seasons in your life and it's really hard, you just got to know and take it from those of us that have been there.