 And as moms, too. Yeah, absolutely. My wife knows when the boys come out on their 13th year that the boys are going to go into the woods, and it's a letting go for her, too, of her little boy. She knows he's going to come home a man. It's like the first time they drive off with the keys on their own. That's a big deal, too. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, that first night when Emmanuel did his a few years back, it was the first time I was doing it as a dad, you know? Yeah. And...