 and we interviewed Bob for the magazine, and we met each other, and he encouraged me to be a horror host, and we did a lot of live shows where Bob would host, you know, it came from outer space, a creature from the Black Lagoon or whatever, and I would write material, and Bob, again, encouraged me and said, you should get out in a chair and host horror movies, and I'm like, Bob, people don't do this sort of thing anymore. This is like when we were kids, and