 They didn't do debates. They didn't let anybody try to kind of flesh some of this out in the process. So in that sense, it was a democratic process that put him in the position he's in, and he does have those cards. I also think if I'm Kamala Harris, I'm saying, look, isn't the role of vice president to be the person who steps up when the president can't serve anymore? And that may be what happens between now and January.