 He told podcast host Tim Miller, I've had top Democrats say to me, I don't know why all these Democrats think Trump is an existential threat to democracy, are acting the way they are, but the reason I'm acting the way I am is because I don't think that. Klein said, I think you have to have at some point, whatever these Democrats are saying in public, they're more resigned and more willing to just be the resistance to a Trump presidency than a lot of their public-facing rhetoric would suggest.