 budget meetings every month and sat down and talked about it to be sure we're on the same page. They both had every dollar to keep each other accountable. So definitely good teamwork and communication. And I would just add to that, just having perseverance because life is still going to hit you even when you're going through this debt payoff journey. Like, for example, I actually got in a car accident last August and my car was totaled. And you're so tempted to take that insurance money and just be like, oh, let's just do the easy thing. Let's go down to the dealers