 But when you see clips of 2020 him versus him now, I'm like, he's not that bad. He's like Winston Churchill in 2020 compared to what he is now. And it's gone quick. But of course, every talking head, every person with a name has to get in on this or be asked about it. So how about this guy? It just looked like a bad night because my interaction with him was what I described in the book. And what happened even subsequent to what I described in the book after I got out,