 I have no idea. And he didn't use the ladder. The whole thing is mind-boggling. Look, I'm not a personal security guy. I'm just a regular Army colonel. But you dominate the high ground. You've got somebody standing there with a rifle. Just in case. And normally, a bad guy goes, oh, there's a guy with a gun up there. I'll go find something else. It's unbelievable to me.