 It's a miracle I got here. But anyway, so incrementalism as opposed to we got to have it now or I'm going to take my ball and go home. Right. And then you end up getting nothing. It was a very interesting concept. I hadn't heard it explained that well before. I didn't know about William Wilberforce. But then you also go back to the founding of our country. And even though as who I am, I'm an adopted biracial person. So like two hard things that you go, hmm.