 News and views in the afternoon. Judge Andrew DePaul joining us at about 1245 our time. A little over 10 minutes from now. Eddie Bader and Byron Sheehy here in the studio with me. Did y'all see that Rudy Giuliani was disbarred from practicing law in the great state of New York? No, I did not see that. What a fall. It might be again something to ask Judge Knapp about because he once was America's mayor.