 kinkle will say well we want high quality data but on the other hand you know we're not science we're not all scientists right that's right and those people that want that it's like well you want that well you get your own equipment and you go out there and you get it yourself because i'm going to enjoy what i learn on my own right and you can go out there and you can take all your equipment that you want and you can try to prove it over and over again and we'll all stand over here together holding hands with a sasquatch and a and a