 I had a friend of mine, he was Catholic, and I was talking to a person at the laundromat. This was when I was in college. And I was witnessing this guy, and I said, hey, do you know for sure that if you died, you'd go to heaven? And he said, no, I don't. And he said, and furthermore, you don't either. I said, oh, I don't. He said, no. He said, nobody can know that. That's only what you find out when you die. And when you die, you find out, did I make it or did I not make it?