 subsequent early years right hugh owen was still alive let me put it that way because he went with me and him went to a game at 10 o'clock in the morning we i mean we went on purpose because it was 10 o'clock well they had to work that afternoon and uh i tell you what i never had more fun in the ballpark the the stands were full of kids at 10 o'clock they brought that that's why they played at that early date do they still have those 10 o'clock starts uh they do but they don't have any more that's usually during school time yeah