 ways i talked about that is i have this book called deep reality that i wrote four years ago and released four years ago um and uh with my co-author who's now deceased by the way dr william tiller and uh and you know we basically are talking about all of those things in that book so people who want to really get into more of the detail of it there but you know we're going to kind of keep it light a little bit higher level here for your for your audience here tonight so well you'll get some great questions next hour too douglas