 And then before that, the grandfather of all the shows was The Firing Line. All that stuff, I was made to watch that as a child. Now I'm thankful. What was the guy that used to be the big TV talk show? Larry King. Oh, yeah. Remember Larry King? Yeah. He was kind of a little swarmy guy, but he was probably still better than what we have today on some of these stations. Who was the king of conservatives that really set off the movement that was on and had his either Saturday or Sunday show? William F. Buckley.