 marriage that doesn't just survive, but thrives. And that's a good thing. Has joyful moments. And Jay and Laura Laffoon are self-described marriage edutainers or something like that. You'll have to tell us more. They entertain and educate couples to strengthen marriage. And they have a devotional book that we're talking about. It's called Celebrate Your Marriage, 365 Daily Devotions for Busy Couples.