 And then I found out, Bob, that once I got away from Waco and my mother, that my morality washed away. And I found out I really didn't have any belief. I just had the fear of my mother that basically guided me. And so my life just kind of bottomed out when a campus crusader came into my room on a survey. And just, actually, he was talking to my roommate. And I listened over his shoulder, and he asked him...