 He was a good, good songwriter and, you know, singer. He said, listen to this. You know, the first time I heard anything that he had done and I listened to it, I went, wow, that's pretty good. And I said, who is that? And she said, that's me. And I went, wow. And I think that's the first time I really realized that, you know, sound equipment can make you sound very good, you know, a little echo on your voice.