 When you look at that scenario, that's the ones who are really in play. And then fast forward it to the middle part of the 80s, around 87. And Frank Boyles is still the AD there at Arkansas. And there was a lot of heavy discussions about the Southwest Conference. Everybody, but I believe it was Arkansas and Rice, was under probation. But they had issues with officiating because it was a Texas-based officiating situation. And then also Arkansas's radio network was terrific.