 Things that I love to talk about and love to interact with people. You know, if you're in the Austin area, come along, let's go for coffee and let's talk about this stuff. All right, Doug, you take care of yourself and stay in touch, all right? Yeah, thanks for having me again. Since the last time, it was two years ago. Dr. Doug Matske, up next, Paul Smith, the remote viewer. We're going to talk about the life and times of the father of remote viewing, Ingo Swann.