 One way to use it, and the people use this terminology, they say, we're actually spiritual beings having a physical experience. I mean, my co-author, Tiller, used to use that term, we're physical beings having a physical experience. Well, you know, there's a little truth to that if you realize we're hyperbid cloud beings, you know. And so maybe we're more spiritual and more, you know, we're all having an experience,