 my co-author uh tiller used to use that term or physical experience you know beings having a physical experience well you know there's a little truth to that if you realize we're hyper you know hyper bit cloud beings you know and uh so maybe we're more more spiritual and more uh you know we're all having an experience and there's this whole thing going on right now where people are saying well they feel like they their past life they were an alien well it could be that you know that