 the first time I ever took philosophy, actually I took it, we took it in high school too, but it wasn't to the extent of when you're in college. So I went to the university of Kentucky and I remember this, this philosophy guy and he had the, he had the jacket with the, you know, elbow pads, that kind of thing. What, whatever, you know, he had that, that look right. And, and he had the beard and he had, you know, he was like, you know, this, you know, chiseled face and all this kind of thing. And, and it was all about, you know,