 whether it was Glavin, Smoltz, or Maddox, or whoever the fourth guy was. It might have been Steve Avery. It might have been Denny Nagel. It might have been Kevin Millwood. But during that 10-year span that those guys were together, you never went to the ballpark any day when you didn't expect to win and win because you were going to get a good pitching performance. You ever get out on the golf course with them? Oh, yeah, but didn't win much money, I can tell you that. Who's the best of the bunch there? John Smoltz is a scratch golfer. Greg Maddox and Tom Glavin aren't far behind. So it was...