 So they didn't mind me helping the chemo or helping myself in a way that I thought I needed help. But they just had no idea that I completely stopped Western medicine. And what do you do with the soursop leaves and the apricot seeds and the black seed oil? Do you make a tea out of them? How do you do it? Yes. So the soursop leaves, and that's also in my book too, Richard Overcoming Cancer. It has my whole regimen in there and what I did and how I found my research.