 in Ole Miss. And then he kind of had a little viral moment there where he said, Texas isn't running the SEC. So a lot of things that Nick Saban always kind of scoffed at, right, as a coach, he's doing now as a media member. It's really interesting. But I'll tell you what, there's another side to that. As I wrote in my story, there's more than just sizzle to Nick Saban. There is substance. He spent most of the summer