 and he never hangs up the phone, and it's not with a trite word. In fact, I was uncomfortable early, but after I really got to know him, Chip, yeah, I love you. Man to man, Chip, I love you. I'm for you. You need anything, give me a call. That's how he ends our phone conversations. He verbally expresses his love for me. From my background with my dad, that still doesn't feel, there's part of it that feels really good, and there's part of it that feels weird, okay?