 You might want to check out my episode on Salk vs. Saban, the race for the cure for polio. Salk vs. Saban? Yeah, Jonas Salk vs. Albert Saban, the race for the cure for polio, and how Saban tried to undermine Jonas Salk for years, calling him a communist and a Marxist. And Salk, of course, was apolitical, developed a vaccine. It was a killed virus vaccine. He told the world, you know, Edward R. Murrow on TV said,