 Yeah, yeah, and that's the thing. You can't have enough of these minds. I also covered him when he was at Alabama. He wasn't a good head coach. I was going to wonder which one he was going to bring up, but same thing, showing him what not to do, showing him, and hopefully this is the mistakes that he can kind of lend these things to the Norris and our coaching staff. But I was in Alabama at the time, and every Alabama fan owes Mike Shula a debt of gratitude because had he not screwed up so badly, they wouldn't have gotten the saving.