 They're overworked. They're underpaid. We've got to give them a decent pay scale and hire more of them and have leadership there. Chip Hill, as my understanding, is the leader of the fire department, police department, and 911. Okay, I've asked the mayor to bypass him when it comes to the two new chiefs and get some real leadership in there. Somebody knows what they're doing. I don't need to be in charge of 911 or the fire department or police department. I don't have those skills, but neither does Chip.