 particularly craft brewing in the South. North Carolina is definitely one of those epicenters. And so it was interesting being in those spaces, noticing how racially a lot of those spaces were centered around kind of the, I would say, stereotype of the bearded beer bro and generally white men, because that was so different from what I grew up knowing about beer history and beer culture. I had a more Afrocentric. So my parents came to the U.S. from Nigeria in the 1970s.