 If you went on the back porch, you'd sit and just look at the lakes, see the boat and all that. Well, I knock on the door. She comes. And I said, hello, Mrs. So-and-so. And we visit for a second. I said, where's your husband? She said, that's why you had to come here. I said, what do you mean? He's down in the basement. I said, well, ask him to come up. She said, he won't come up. I said, okay, I'll go down then.