 That's a big question. I don't know that I have all the answers to that one. I think I'll just talk about my own journey a little bit in that I didn't grow up with a faith tradition or part of any organized religion. And, you know, admittedly was one of those is that I got into my scientific path, sometimes kind of look down on them, at least aspects of them and didn't think that much about it. And then when I grew older and went through some of the some of what you just described, I