 Here's a guy who played in the minor leagues in these towns where there were big kids that would yell things at him, call him names. And he actually said, you know, and he said it in his interview down in Alabama. He said, if I didn't have these certain players, Johnny McNamara was going to win. White teammates, white manager. And that's the thing about what makes a game great. Because when you put a uniform on, you really care about where you came from.