 uh in reno at one of the sales or something and you've been working and and i'm doing those shows we can't visit all that much but yes sir you know we used to we'd go down the road and we'd see each other and maybe we'd get on one of the other's bus for a few hours and play poker and visit but yeah we don't get to do that much anymore i know it was it seems like that every time i get there it's already time to leave i remember riding with the earnest tub