 And yet there's also so many things that are negative about cities, whether it's the segregation or poor transportation. That's why we're so excited to be talking with Jeanette Sadek-Khan. She has done amazing work in New York City, making it a more sort of people friendly, transportation friendly place. And I think we can learn so much from her about how to apply that to other places, other cities, other villages, other towns globally, as well as here in the U.S.