 Yeah, at the World Series. And I used to see him in spring training back in the day. He would go out. He lived in Siesta Key, Florida. And he would go out to the Reds and the Pirates. And I was out there once in 2002, and I'd see him. And I'd see him at Circle K and just hanging around with everybody. And, you know, it's funny. Doc, you might remember. This goes way, way back. Dickie V used to send us. Double N will get a laugh since he runs the board. We used to have carts. Well, he didn't even send us a cart. He would send us, Sanford, a cassette tape of...