 you know, post being 25 or something, you know, it's like, a lot of people say, well, I can't do it if I'm not, you know, in my twenties or something like that. But, you know, obviously Ken and Don are an example of how you can do that moving forward, you know? So unless you're 50 or over, there's no reason to go to this thing at all, right? I would not say that.