 It's more than a little under. I had a great interview. I don't normally talk about it at this point in the show, but one of the best interviews I've ever done on the Michael Harrison interview is the current interview, which is a nice state of affairs. It's with America's digital goddess, Kim Commando. Ah, sure. And we take a deep dive into the technology, and she lays it all out. And she has tremendous credibility in our industry. She sure does. It's terrifying.