 Charlie's very conservative. I guess he's part of the conservative movement. So he doesn't really like the labeling and all that kind of stuff. But he has a huge following. And I think he did a great job being a moderator last night. Well, these guys were all up here basically to support Eli in his campaign. And Eli loves coming to Prescott. And I think that's a genuine statement from him. And he brings his wife, Jen, up here as well. And she's incredibly good looking and makes up for him in