 Look, I do believe that moments of deep and acute crisis, terrible impasses, something's got to give. We can't go on like this. When things get interesting or in these crisis situations, that's when we got the New Deal. You could never have gotten that incrementally. It took a huge shock to the whole system. And it took a fear on the part of the business classes of social revolution from below, of communism, of unions, and so on.