 a brownie, like I did today, I ate a brownie, right? Because I felt like I had to want a brownie, right? And it makes you feel good, right? Comfort food. Or they want to go spend, right? They'll go, oh, you know what? I deserve it, right? And you can't get out of debt fat. Can you get out of debt? Sure. But it's going to take a lot longer. And to have that accountability partner, there's nothing like it. And she is the one to call because let me tell you something, what she's gone through, and we're going to talk about that after the break.