 Well, I heard his remarks just in that fashion, but it's consistent with, frankly, what Mr. Trump had said while he was president and since. He was not a strong supporter of NATO. We've heard callous comments by members of his first administration, John Bolton, his national security advisor, most notably, saying that they were convinced that if Mr. Trump was reelected, he would pull the United States out of NATO. Mr. Trump was very critical of NATO allies who did not meet the goal, and it was a goal and not a requirement, of 2% of GDP.