 four 65 and they're they're 10 years behind and and all you all i can think about now is candy l and pulling the car over with my girlfriend debbie and we would pull over to start dancing right in the parking lot somewhere because it was just that good for us it was excellent and we were just crazy as rick okay it's like one of the most underrated musicians after ellie east another underrated guitarist i would go with that speaking of underrated overrated maybe in between