 smart. He sort of knows public policy. Like there's a heart there that I think that the Trump campaign has to really work hard to make sure that pierces through. Like he loves kids, right? He loves families. He sort of, he just like likes people. And I think if we can get that to sort of shine through, then that's going to help them more than any like particular policy debating point. We just have to make sure that shines through. And I think talking about the people he's met on the campaign trail, I mean, you may remember this, Charlie, but when we have this