 Oftentimes, people are leaving in the middle of the night. They're running from gang violence. They're running from corruption or climate change. They get to southern Mexico with no help, and they need a guide to get them to the jungle. And so they would meet someone like Chino or Santos who says, okay, pay me $200, and I'll get you 150 kilometers. And so they'll scrape together what little money they have, pay it to those guys, and then trudge through the jungles to get to the next point.