 They, they need to be cleaned at least twice a week. Um, and messy is relative term. I mean, compared to like a dog, I mean, you know, your dog's going to make a mess at least two to three times a day, you know? Um, so you can do, you can do the cage about twice a week. Um, they'll lose feathers. Uh, they have down feathers and then they have their exterior exterior feathers. Um, so they'll lose their feathers.