 Interesting. Wait, so the first lady was in some of your meetings about policy? Many times Jill would come in. There was one time when I'd sit there and the president said something on this famous tour down to the pool saying, do you want to go outside? Jill turns very quickly when she hears that and says, no, they don't want to go outside. Because she knew exactly what position he was in and what he was doing. Wow.