 And one day they just happened to, or as we, it's not really entirely recorded, but one day I think they happened to just find that she had an aptitude, Phyllis, for learning. It just caught her, you know, sometimes looking at books, trying to understand things. Narrative that comes by is that she, one day they walked in on her and she was trying to copy some, she had a piece of coal in her hand and it was a book and she was trying to copy the letters and try to make it look the same way.