 And it's striking that she had become the object of all these pilgrimages. People wanted to have these experiences with her, but she remained poor to the end of her life. She did not get rich out of this. No, absolutely not. And if you ask even practicing healers now, they can't accept money. They might accept like a token gift or a barter, an exchange. But no, she didn't get paid for these experiences that people were getting.