 Too big to rig. How long have we been married? 28 years. There's a little bit of pause, a little hesitation. I was trying to remember how long have we known each other? 30 years versus married, 28 years. So we've known each other 30 years. How in sync are our circadian rhythms? Absolutely the opposite. There is no synchronicity. I'm a night owl, you're asleep by nine. And then what time did you used to get up? Five.