 So like, yeah, I started out like printing shirts for like Food Not Bombs or like anti-racist action groups in Phoenix where I grew up. And so, yeah, I just that's how I got involved with like activism was through learning art and art practice, whether that be music or, you know, visual art. It was just something that kept me out of trouble where I grew up. So I was like, this is a much more productive use of my time than what I see like my friends or friends.