 Maybe they're at 12 feet, something like that. Generally, folks keep them about head high and they use them as hedges, accents out in that island where the driveway kind of goes around it, the backyard fence. It kind of softens all that hardware up. It's a great choice for out there. It's actually got a hibiscus flower. We've got probably six different colors, varieties, textures here, but they're all rows of Sharon's or hibiscus. It's a hardy hibiscus.