 Jennifer Polka talks about that in her new book. It's called Recoding America, Why Government is Failing in the Digital Age and How We Can Do Better. And we've got an excerpt of the book at onpointradio.org. Polka also served as Deputy Chief Technology Officer in the Obama White House, and she's founder and former executive director of Code for America. It's a nonprofit that tries to help government agencies modernize their use of technology. Jennifer Polka, welcome to On Point.