 Something like that. Something like that. You're close. All right. We're going to start with you, Lori. All true or false. In 2007, he was a contestant on Dancing with the Stars. True or false? True. True. That is true. Absolutely true. I wasn't watching that then, but he sounds like he'd be a lot of fun. Carl, in 2004, he produced a reality TV series called Cash Flow.