 It's kind of ironic because I really believe that's what Stephanopoulos was trying to do at the same time that Biden said, oh, well, those poll numbers, I don't believe those poll numbers because I read the same thing in the press. So the press that he doesn't believe, here's the press in front of him trying to convince him you've got to step aside. So Stephanopoulos pleaded with the president. He questioned him. He exhorted him.