 He had fallen in in these very elite liberal circles at that point, and he says as he watched his liberal friends react to Trump and sort of go a little bit crazy as he sees it over what Trump was doing, it radicalized him against the sort of vision of progressive liberalism that was dominant in those circles. There's a term in right-wing online discourse called red-pilling, which is a meme sort of taken from The Matrix movie, actually. You take the blue pill.