 And the estimates I have are 200 or less people there. The Biden rallies, I'm sorry, the Trump rallies, they have thousands of people there. But what does he mean when he says, talk about crowds? I mean, I don't think you want to play the crowd game. Donald Trump can draw big crowds. There's no question about that. He can draw a big crowd, but what does he say? Who does he have? What do you mean? What does he say? Who does he have?