 The imperialist Kipling is pretty daunting. Yes. He defended the British Empire everywhere, opposed home rule for Ireland. He was friends with Cecil Rhodes and Teddy Roosevelt, too, the most famous imperialists of the day. Yep. You know, there's all this talk about certain writers who not only should just be read out of the canon, but basically should be cancelled. And it would seem that Kipling might be a suitable candidate for that. Yeah, I mean, I would defend him against that. It's true, there is all of that, you know.