 including lots of people who aren't officially registered as Jews, is much larger than the Jewish community of France, where until quite recently, there was no great risk attached to identifying yourself as a Jew or to attending Jewish community events or whatever. It's a pretty organized and structured community, and it was pretty much aware of every single Jew. In Ukraine, there continue to be surprises where somebody comes out of the closet and says, yeah, my great-grandfather was Jewish.