 this uh... cycle to break through so that so that we can finally have that uh... neo copernican revolution well we'll definitely get into that a little bit i know that for me you know it's i've been at this more years than i care to admit but you know in the beginning that dominant paradigm back then in the eighties was these are aliens from other planets visiting us coming back and forth they've been here a long time and that was the the mindset of the point but that you know after a year or two of reading everything you get your hands on