 so and that would keep him sharper so if it's pushed to 6 30 does that mean they need a gap between some of his other meetings he's got two nato meetings today we don't know what he's got personally going on a working session at two o'clock on the nato summit so he will have a wide open press corps asking him anything and everything for the first time in 30 months uh max lugavere is going to be with us at the bottom of the hour he's health and science specialist best-selling author a host of the podcast the genius life