 And no one knows how this is possible. So I spent several days with the team over Nestor Giannulli, a researcher who's studying this plant. And the vine has provoked this controversy over whether or not plants could possibly see. There are a camp of botanists who say, well, it's mimicking, spontaneously mimicking other plants. That must be a form of visual acuity, that they're taking visual information and processing it and producing this perfect mimic. But of course, plants don't have brains. So where would they be