 why do you need to know that? And then I was working with somebody in federal government who I was trying to convince that we would do something much simpler and clearer and with less clutter and fewer questions. And I used this example to explain to him, like, this is why it's bad when we ask these too many questions. And it turns out he was the one who had written the regulation in the first place. So it was a very awkward conversation. But