 DIVERTING PEOPLE OVER INTO THESE TREATMENT PROGRAMS, I PRESUME. LET'S SPEND A COUPLE MINUTES, DOUG. LET'S TALK ABOUT DIVERSION. DIVERSION PROGRAMS AND THE EFFECTS OF DIVERSION. I'D LIKE TO KNOW MYSELF. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ABLE TO FIND ANY STATS OR DATA. WELL, LET ME BACK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE PROBABLY THE BEST EXEMPLAR OF WHAT NOT TO DO IS WHAT HAPPENED TO THE WEST. AND SO JOHN PROBABLY WILL BE NODDING HIS HEAD WITH HIS EXPERIENCE.