 So statins don't save lives. That's the important thing to remember. They may prevent a heart attack or two, maybe. But in that same group, there are more deaths from other things like diabetes and cancer. So they're not life-saving drugs by any means. And they're treated that way. They're treated like, oh, you take this, you're going to be fine. I don't know if you remember Tim Russett. He was the moderator of NBC's Meet the Press for many years. He died on the treadmill at the NBC conference.