 Yes, I think that's what they want. They want for him to say, yes, I was at the side of the president and they such and such. When President Bolsonaro was planning, oh yes, a coup d'etat and all sorts of illegal action. That's what they want to torture him actually for. And going to the United States, there's evidence that they were running a coup. He traveled the floor. There's also, according to Mario Grady's column, there's information that he took a flight all right, but it was inside Brazil.