 Being viewed as a squish, somebody who was too soft to actually crack down on the border, was the quickest way to lose your job. And so I think a lot of people held their tongues, maybe because they thought that speaking up wasn't going to have an impact, but also to protect their own career prospects. It was pushing harder for policies like family separations, coming up with policies that one-upped each other in their harshness. That was the quickest way to a promotion. This story...