 And not just housing, but affordable housing. And at that point, my antenna go up, and I say that seems like a tremendously bad idea, something sure to be done inefficiently, ineffectively, and very expensively by the government. So I thought I'd talk to Randall O'Toole about that. He is both a land use and transportation policy analyst, and he's also director of the Thoreau Institute. He works with several think tanks, and he's the author of several books, including, most notably,