 And it's not the first time. In a 15-year period, you would expect more jobs to be created as government gets bigger just across the country. We're really basically at parity with where we were 15 years ago. I'm Mark Brody. And I'm Sam Dingman. Also today on the show, why federal money to pay for energy costs largely doesn't help for cooling. What last week's presidential debate means for the country's future. And a new memoir explores the fluidity of religious and familial identities.