 And I know a lot of people from Portland. There's a political philosophy that's at work there. And it's very pervasive. It takes over people's minds. And if you don't agree with their perspective, they don't want anything to do with you. And it's unfortunate because a good dialogue is something that you can get past these things if you have a dialogue. But when someone says, I don't want to listen to anything you have to say,