 Growing up, we used to normalize being hungry at school. Because I remember my days when I was in school and we were starving. It was really hard. I couldn't concentrate. I couldn't focus. I couldn't do anything. And I was trying to normalize it, but it was wrong. Well, it's interesting. When you were in school, that was about the time I'm guessing that you first met Cindy McCain, who is now the head of the World Food Programme.