 She started at Inside Edition and Good Morning America. Debra Norville was hosting Inside Edition when she worked there. They once spent five days together in a women's prison for a story for Inside Edition together. She was a producer at Good Morning America. She's had some other companies that have been involved in the media. So they all had the broadcasting thing was in your blood, but no one jumped into it like you did. And then our other sister, Jackie, was a pastry chef, so she went in a totally different direction. But...