 I'd say somewhere in the middle, but much closer to the latter camp. I am skeptical, based on my research, of the power of a consent judgment to affect long-lasting change. That is not a substitution for a belief that something drastic has to happen in this department. And what I think needs to happen is the DOJ needs to sue the city of Phoenix and take the power of the federal government and sue the city of Phoenix and actually get a federal ruling that the city has violated the Constitution in all the ways that they've found possible.