 but he spoke about the president and what he needs to do. This is clip 12. I think the president has shown extraordinary leadership over his 50-year career, and he's facing a real question of what is best for the country, and I think he'll make that decision. A lot of us are doing everything we can behind the scenes to really talk openly and honestly with the president, with his team, about the best way forward. We've had private meetings in D.C. all last week. I don't want to have this conversation in public.