 I'm sitting in the meeting, and they're talking about, okay, there's, you know, let's say there's 15, 20 people here at this meeting, but they rent the membership role, and they said there was like 115 people, and it was down like 10 people from last year. COVID had knocked a bunch of people out. You know, obviously, any hobby, there is people who come and go and lose interest all the time, so that's nothing to do with them. But, you know, COVID made it even worse, and so they were kind of floundering from that event. Also...