 and it gets you out i have gone to more places that i would never have seen going on field trips with the club just because they go to neat neat places yeah and is it local or do they go you know maybe we go local usually about a two to three hour drive so you can make it a day trip and still have time to collect and be there and at least once a year we have an out-of-state trip we've got an out-of-state trip coming up in the end of august going to utah for a