 Just go to any commercial property. You can go right here to the Prescott Mall. And it's not Gateway. It's called something else now. Something Ridge Mall. And Pine Ridge, I think, is what it's called now. And you go to Pine Ridge Mall and you look and just the entire building's just almost empty. There's just so many empty suites. In fact, I have a good friend of mine who owns a very large financial firm in practice.