 You know, we had had this conversation 10 or 15 years ago. My sense of how people, you know, in Western societies had thought about animals would have been kind of this very straightforward trajectory. We're sort of starting out with we thought they were unintelligent. And then over time, and especially in the last few decades, came to realize that, no, in fact, they are quite intelligent. But the history is actually really a lot messier than that. And, you know, you can look at the last decade