 Very. And one of the things you guys learned early in life was if you went to work and you worked really hard and you made money, that's how you achieve financial freedom in life, right? You just trade time for money. You work, work, work, work. And then maybe around the age of 60 or 70 or 80, you could retire. Did you guys hear that story growing up? Yes, all the time. Actually, when I was working, it's like,