 that you really got to find these videos and stuff because when people are throwing zingers and stuff and their attitude changes and stuff and how they behave, because I know that debate, Steve Zipperman really won that at that night. You know, he's throwing things because, you know, Mark Fincham, you know, he was starting out, I think they said eight years ago, he voted to get rid of the electoral college, you know, and that kind of set him off that night.