 All right, and what does Joe have to say to all this? Cut 38, please. Cut 38. You can see he is 6'5 and only 235 pounds. Well, you said 6'4, 200. Well, anyway, just take a look at what he says he is and take a look at what he is. Look, I'd be happy to have a driving contest with him. I got my handicap when I was vice president down to a 6'.