 brought on by COVID. And even if COVID doesn't come back for 100 years, the effects of it could hurt China for years to come. Just quick station ID here. You're listening to the Business Roundtable. I am your host, Matt Battaglia. Our guest today, we're talking investing in the markets. His name is Drew Niv. He's with TraderTools.com. They do banking software, especially in the FX markets.