 Art Bell, you're talking about. Yes, yes. Let's say he gets to heaven. Yes. And for some reason, just an example, his mother isn't there. Yes. How do you explain that? How do you account for that? I mean, how can you have happiness if the people you love are not around you? Well, the happiness in heaven, first of all, doesn't spring from the people around you. It springs from God. And number two, I really would be very surprised if Art Bell's mommy isn't there.