 telling a story about Donald Trump. And I want you to pay attention to the difference in the way these people speak about their bosses. Let's go ahead and play Jennifer Granholm. Any talk of him pulling out among the inner circle? No. He is moving forward. And that inner circle sees him every day, including his family. How often do you see him? Do you have personal interaction with him? Well, again, I'm here in my personal capacity, so I can't really talk about what I see.