 But you also have to look beyond the numbers and look at what they're actually buying. One of the real problems for NATO will be manpower. And some people suggest that NATO needs to add 35 to 40 brigades of manpower. And whether or not those liberal democracies can generate the population to join the military is a question for sure. And number two is, what are you devoting your funds to? Well, the British will tell you, well, we spend well over 2.5% of our GDP on