 The argument and the narrative that Trump and his surrogates and Republicans have been trying to set, which is that they're coming after him with every novel, illegal theory they can. And it's unprecedented. And I think people, again, Americans, they have an instinct to be skeptical. And I think they saw it with skepticism to begin with. And now the Supreme Court has validated that argument. That's what this is. I don't see how Van Jones comes to that conclusion. I just don't.