 then the world without the fall. It could mean, as Christians sing on Easter, that the fall was actually a happy fault. Oh, happy fault that won for us so great, so glorious a redeemer. Got to take a quick break. Do not go anywhere. When we come back, a woman attacks women and sides with men who are kind of liberal. It's a very niche place to occupy in politics. We will debate. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. We'll be right back.