 You know, my whole childhood, my entire childhood. I never did anything with wood my entire childhood. You know, other than visually, I used to watch my grandfather, my mom's father. He started our family business, our funeral home. So I used to watch him make wooden boxes for coffins to go in. And when I was little, I was intrigued by watching him run a saw. And I never did it, but I just used to stand there and watch him like, ooh, you know. I was intrigued by it. So...