 to make this kind of my... Johnny Bowden, hold right there, because I don't want to have to cut you short for a segment. Stay tuned. I have lots of questions. And listen, folks, question for yourselves. Even if you decide I'm a kook and he's a kook, that's fine. But listen to what he has to say. Dr. Johnny Bowden is our guest. The book is The Great Cholesterol Myth. More coming up. She was 12. I was 30. But anyway...