 And Bill Stevenson claims that Joe and Jill began an affair. So that's, anyway, his version of what happened. Both Joe and Jill say he's a liar. Why he would be motivated to lie, I don't know. But they've accused him of lying. But assuming he's not lying, it means they did not meet the way they said they met. And assuming some of the women that have come forward and said Joe behaved inappropriately around them, and assuming Tara Reid is not lying...