 Um, when I was 12, I got my first acoustic guitar. And that's kind of when I started writing songs or trying to write songs. Obviously, they were not that great or that deep. I was 12 years old. But yeah, just from there. And then 12, all the way through high school, I just kept writing songs. And then 17, I wrote the first song that somebody actually thought was good. And that kind of opened me up to, hey, music could be your career. And it could actually be your life.