 What occurs is, first of all, there's the difficulty of getting the demon to talk. Away from the phone a little bit, Father. The difficulty is that the exorcist must first of all achieve is getting into contact with the demon, presumably possessing this person. That's the first thing. And that sometimes takes some time. Sometimes no, but sometimes it takes a long time. A lot of cajoling, a lot of abuse, and a lot of effort.