 You know, the marshmallow man, Humpty Dumpty, Brian Seltzerwater, they they watched the Joe Biden interview on Morning Joke this morning. And this is they didn't think much of it. This is what they said about it. That ABC interview last Friday night, it was relatively low rated. It did not change the calculus, did not change the dynamic of this race or the situation for Biden. So he's being more aggressive today with this letter, with this phone call, maybe with other interviews in the coming hours, trying to change the dynamic.