 so what this is this kind of stuff pretty typical in the american left in fact here take a listen here this is a joe biden back in the united states senate on roe v wade there is an overwhelming universal criticism by proponents of pro-choice and opponents of vote of pro-choice that roe v wade was not a very well-reasoned decision yeah this is this is biden when he was in the senate and then he gets on a debate stage all the legal experts agreed with roe v wade wrong