 It's true. That is the Trump I love. That is the Trump I love. And it's so true. I've known him 45 years and I love that side of him. You know, I saw a picture of you, Roger, with Donald Trump. I think it must have been in 1980. You guys were over by the United Nations for some reason. Do you remember the first time you ever met him? I do. I went to his office. Roy Cohn got me a meeting and I pitched him to be on Ronald Reagan's finance committee for New York.