 Absolutely. And that's one of the key things is you looked at that tip of the iceberg and then you dug down deeper. And then you start getting into, again, you get the impression that Ian was involved in defrauding lonely people and lonely hearts sorts of things when he was just a facilitator of trades in Bitcoin that then other people then use the money in the ways that they might want to use the money. As if I went into a bank and said, can you change this 100 and turn it into 20s?