 mandolin and banjo really well. You're going to have to pick something else. And he said, you're going to probably bass or fiddle. And we had a fiddle at home. So that's when I started playing. And I started listening to his, trying to learn the stuff off of his records is what I tried to learn. And I'm still trying to learn. No, no, no. What was your audition for Del like? Well, I met him in Nashville. I was on a show with the Goins Brothers.