 difficult because then again like i said i didn't even know my dad was on the board of the you know red cross exactly and so if i'm not telling my children that i am charitably minded that i've given during my lifetime and i'm going to give on my passing how are they going to know that how are they going to know that that's how do i say this that's our values that's what we do right we give back you know we have benefits i know uh one gentleman who like the ymca