 Well, because a lot of people, they're working too hard. They're like just come into the office and make a date just to say, you know, we need this or we need to do that. And I think you got to get out there and you got to talk with people. And that's the best way of getting anything done. I agree with you. I shadowed Harry Oberg in District 1 for about a year and a half when I was on the Yavapai County Comprehensive Plan Review Board. Went with him for some town halls into some of those areas that you were speaking about.