 yeah uh is this family the especially the extended version of it able to have civil discussions or is it emotional and heated it's emotional and heated but they are very close we had a husband and wife who are on the fence about supporting president biden they're in their you know mid to late 30s millennials who you fundamentally disapprove of how he's handled this war they are parents of a young child they're extremely concerned with the civilian casualties in gaza with the widespread starvation there