 is turkey and their president erdogan he attended the first meeting however he hasn't attended the last two and the news is that he will not be attending this meeting i think he's a bit of a key player at the moment he's kind of straddling europe and russia he's obviously an ally of russia but he's you know close to europe as well so if he does turn up i think that could be significant and watch out for that the other thing to say of course you know one issue very likely to be on the