 discourse i mean there's no conversation and so a lot of people are saying well we can't debate well that that's not this forum this forum is not to debate you come up for two to three minutes and give us an opinion on something ideally that we're going to be voting on or something that we have some realm of influence on um we get a lot of people who are very passionate and say you know you have to close the border that's not in our realm of influence or authority