 And so he lived one year in Israel before he pastored. I thought that was a great thing to do. Part of that time, he lived with a shepherd. And he just helped him. And he said that the first time it ever happened, it just shocked him. The shepherd said, we're going to the lake country to feed the sheep. And so they just took off. And the shepherd had this way, this noise he would make. You're just kind of like, oh, you know, kind of like that. And the sheep would just follow him.