 He gets bills passed, but he's not, in my opinion, if you're a conservative, I think you better look at those bills that he's been approved through with the other parties. Well, he certainly has stretched across the aisle, especially in the last couple of years he's been in the Senate here. So take a look at Ken and see whether you like what he is, what he's become, and see how he compares with Mr. Zipperman, for example. Right.