 Same positions on this. I mean, and that's the same words she used. And I know she's never read your stuff. But anyway, I'm sorry. Go ahead. It's just kind of funny. Her thing is it should be natural, not out of a machine. It shouldn't have a shelf life. It should be raw and natural and real and something that has been on this earth feeding people for a very long time. And I think there's a lot to be said for that.