 you know, like Steve and even Ken from back in the day, he's really knows the constituents of the LD one. Yeah. And I think that makes a difference. So when you're, you know, living it and breathing it and you can make better decisions. So that's my two cents on, um, uh, Mark, but you know, I do, I do, and those debates and stuff. And I, I did, I did want to bring up one more time. We did this previously on one of our show about the debate, because we have that on a previous episode too, is,