 Even hear an electric guitar there, too, and drums. No accident. It was an idea his friend put to him one day. Make a record, but don't play the banjo. That friend was Afey Yervinen, who you might know as the musician Bahamas. He ended up producing the new Old Man Ludica record called She Told Me Where to Go. Old Man Ludica, join me from CBC Halifax to talk all about it.