 uh... they were talking about at the beginning of the interview having another debate i mean joe biden seemed to imply that yeah they'll be that that september debates gonna happen or really all that reminds me you can and you can't give me the horse clip lester holt asked him he wants to have another debate does he want to get up on the horse to get back on the horse do you know it's never that would be a thirty one as there is a sense of wanting to get back on the horse