 doing jewelry and i think they also knew you were involved with a lot of civic things but at least we got some of the stuff discussed today and i'm glad you had time to come in and talk to the bob show well just i'm glad that you didn't put me through the labor of talking about some of my weird paintings i don't yeah no no you haven't used to do uh paintings for the uh courier you know cartoons on the editorial page yeah that's right yeah