 In a, can we say, dare we say it, pre-Trump 47 era, I'm not going to go there, because it's up to us, and we fight like we're the third monkey trying to get on Noah's Ark. Let's talk to the perfect guest, a man who understands the present, who works for the present, who rose to the cabinet level, has served in two of our armed services, a great friend of the show. He is the Right Honorable, former Secretary of Veterans Affairs,