 Both. Both, right. Didn't I see both? Oh, yeah, yeah. I guess I didn't much notice the saddle. I was just noticing the hanging on, not the saddle. They're two very unique and different ways to ride. Well, I guess that's why one of them was more upright than the other one who was like lying on the rear end of the horse. Yeah, that's typically bareback, yeah. Oh, because the saddle would get in the way otherwise. Right, yep.