 Absolutely. And I think J.D. embodies that. But I think that there's also... But there's a caricature that comes with that, too, sometimes. I mean, in Republican circles, that if you go to the Ivy League, you're an elitist, you're out of touch, you're snooty. I'm not somebody who does that. You don't get that from me. I generally don't even use the term the elites very much, largely because I just think it's so overbroad and it doesn't really capture what the real dividing lines are. The dividing line that I think we ought to pay more attention to