 For the family and those that were devoted to him and now Pope Francis, they're trying to signal that, you know, sainthood is something that is accessible even in the modern age. He was speaking to NPR's Morning Edition. This is NPR News. Good morning. I'm Frey Lindsay at the BBC. With two days to go until Britain's general election, the opposition Labour Party, led by Sakhir Starmer, is polling far ahead of the governing Conservatives, led by Rishi Sunak. The BBC's Helen Catt.