 a little baby family of about 3,000 already, that I would have baptized with water, or at least baptized somewhere or other, and that I would have prayed to so that their sufferings would be united with the sufferings of my Lord Jesus, because that's the way I can save souls. Well, I'm curious about something, caller. You advertised yourself as an atheist when you first called. Yes, sir. I understand an agnostic. I understand somebody who has not been able to quite make the leap of faith