 It turns out people have embarrassing stories of meeting with Barack Obama. Tommy and I bonded about this. Kelly Clarkson apparently had a very embarrassing engagement with Barack Obama. I've seen many people over the years. Embarrass themselves. It's not him. It's not him, to be clear. So my first meeting with Barack Obama, I worked, I was one of the early, as Dan was, people who worked on the communications team for President Obama. We all joined in February. Or you may have been earlier. Were you January? Yeah.