 to see what was on there. And you can never really ever be off. And I think that's a challenge. Dana Perino, of all people, said to me that the thing about being on television is you work really hard in the moment. You have to know all the things. You're under pressure. But if you're off, like you're with your family, you're actually off. Because if you're in a cabin in Vermont, you're not anchoring a show. So that has been kind of a nice thing to be able to be present in a different way.