 and one from the North, New Jersey. But it was also because these three did something that almost nobody else did then or can do today, although I think you're going to defy my expectation with it. They lasted at the top of their profession for a full 50 years. And that says something about them, and it says something about the country's reaction to them. When you look at the research that you've done, Larry, were there any things that you...