 decided and what's causing them to shift. Then the debate ends. We talked to them for about 45 minutes afterwards. And I got to tell you, I started doing this in 1992. I forgot about this. I thought there's an op-ed that I wrote for the New York Times that was published about a week ago. I thought I started in 1996. My actual first focus group was 1992. And in all that time, in all the presidential debates that we've done, which is