 It's going to be so much about the physicality of it, I think, and also about a little bit of the needling. I think, I mean, we were talking about this backstage. I think they've done a good and interesting job in what they've done on social media, the campaign, and they've been quite aggressive. And he has been in needling Trump a little bit, getting under his skin. They're going to have to figure out the right way to do that during the debate. That's not, like, viewers aren't like, eh, you know? Yeah, there's a line there between needling him