 But right now, they are so far away from that is why we're here asking for assistance and help. Thank you. Travis Tigard is the CEO of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency. And let's take a look at another scenario. Mr. Tigard, you correctly mentioned in your written testimony that this is not the first time that this committee has addressed these issues. In 2017, we held a hearing to review WADA's role in response to the systematic doping that was uncovered in Russia.