 and plunder from that account. And this is a slap in America's face for what they've done. Thank you. About 15 minutes left in this segment as we simply ask you, do presidential debates still matter? Having this conversation, of course, ahead of the first of two presidential debates. It's CNN that's hosting tonight's presidential debate. It starts at 9 p.m. Eastern. We're simulcasting it on C-SPAN 2.