 To circle back to a point we were touching on previously about in the managers and the kind of the soft skills, I see here that it really does make a difference when managers are able to upskill and learn a little bit more about this. But just to put a finer point in that, upskill to do or learn what exactly, what is the kind of curriculum or what is the kind of education that these managers can benefit from to move the needle on everything that we're talking about?