 President Biden could make the argument, hey, look, I'm going to stay in this race. How are people who you're talking to reacting to what we witnessed on Thursday? Well, the voters that we talked to, we had a town hall meeting in L.A. with Latino leaders. And a lot of them said that there was they didn't hear anything new. It was more form over substance. And they're saying that their worst fears they had of both of them.