 Well, they forced Trump. They gave Trump two minutes to be a demagogue. And I saw that's one of the few things I've gotten right in the last few years. I've got to say, I thought these rules were good for Trump. You can't give him 120 seconds unchallenged. Either you have to have a situation where the moderators were very able to challenge him. But CNN didn't want that in the campaigns. So we didn't want that. Or you have to have an opponent. Or you have to have an opponent who can challenge him.