 For Donald Trump, 81. For Joe Biden, he really was showing his age this evening. And I think that will be a lingering feeling for a lot of people who watched the first part of this debate. Let's listen to just a little bit of audio, Mitch. This is what I thought. And you can come back and counter with maybe a different bite or a different opinion. But this is what I thought as weak as President Biden's performance was. One bite.