 with someone who is 10 years advanced than what I have. You know what I mean? And so, but I think my biggest mentor and my biggest friend in the movement has always been Patricia Ireland. And I'm very close to Patricia in that we have a strong friendship based on respect. And I think that respect was from day one. You know, because I didn't have any idea who she was when I met her. And just by the fact that I ended up working for her was an honor.