 Yeah, and I think it's worth underscoring that this is pretty much the debate the Biden campaign wanted in terms of rules and timing and all that, which makes this performance even more disappointing to them, doesn't it? I think that's such an important point to bring up, that this was the Biden campaign's proposal. This was their idea to do this so early, to have this before the conventions, because they did want to have this right now so people could start paying attention to this race.