 Took it from there, basically, and Allen really came to admire him. But Jurgensen, there was a little bit... Jurgensen didn't like the fact that Allen was too defensive-oriented, first of all. And he was way too conservative on offense. Jurgensen didn't like that at all. And he has said over the years that Lombardi was the greatest coach I played for ever because he gave me the freedom to do what I wanted to do on the field. And Allen really didn't do that. So Jurgensen didn't like that about him. But I think...