 Joe Biden is an extrovert in a way that is like exhausting. I mean, we actually when we were going on trips and trips when you go, I mean, you're on Air Force One. It's very cool. It is amazing. But it can be tiring, especially when you're the president, your team, because you're doing everything else at the same time. Whatever's happening around the world, whatever legislation you're trying to get through. And early a couple of months in, we were like.