 the press secretary at the time, the senior advisors at the time, the various cabinet members. And we just kind of had this tape of Jen. And we were just like, let's put Jen in the group. And by far, the person who tested the best, hands down. The report came back, and no one really thought about it, because you weren't doing the Sunday shows at the time. You weren't doing the White House briefing. But the report came back overwhelmingly. They kind of didn't really like anyone other than Jen. She was the one person. And so I knew that this is where you were headed.