 But at the same time, people remembered, for example, Lloyd Benson mocking Dan Quayle, saying, you know, I knew Jack Kennedy. You're no Jack Kennedy. And everybody said that Dan Quayle looked terrible. But meanwhile, the Bush-Quayle team won 40 out of 50 states that year. So debates don't always make a difference until they do. That's political junkie podcast host Ken Rudin, who joined us on Skype. Ken will be part of our post-debate analysis team tomorrow night, right after the debate, just about 1030.