 who I just mentioned, who I once again want to say thank you for your very reasonable and thoughtful comments on this. I wish C-SPAN discussions were like this all the time. Unfortunately, most of the time it's people calling in who are, they have no idea how much they do not know and express all their half-baked opinions as if they're self-evident facts. So I hope C-SPAN between now and November continues to make a point once a week