 And that's where I met my mom. So I got into basically what I would call mind-body culture via the martial arts. In the 80s, I started doing Taekwondo. And my second teacher was this short white dude who had this huge tattoo on his chest of St. George the Dragon Slayer, a knight in armor with a sword attacking a dragon on his chest. And one day, it was probably a late spring day on a Saturday, we were