 I can, yes. He said, I'm interested in this little slice of Arabia. So why am I asking you? And then he answers his own question. And he says, because our projects are both something colonial. That to me, when I read that, that's what turned me away from Zionism. I had grown up a very active Zionist activist. I was in training to be what we used to call a professional Jew, meaning I was going to go to work for one of the main Zionist organizations.