 Exactly. OK, so now he's the senior policy advisor for that organization. And in addition, the participants were Reverend Al Sharpton from the National Action Network. Mind you, what was surprising about this, none of these people, except for maybe Ron Daniels and Jocelyn, have said anything about Haiti. You know, really anything concrete or done anything to critique what the U.S. has been doing, maybe at least for the past 20 years. Right. With the coup and so on. But all of a sudden you're wondering why they're having a private meeting at the White House.