 where there's a lot of mismanagement of funds. And this is something that is known. It is something that has been a discussion in the country for a long time. And so part of the reason why Kenyans are on the streets is not just because they don't understand that this is debt that needs to be paid. It is because a lot of the Kenyans were not consulted when this debt was being taken out. There wasn't the proper public participation that was necessary when this debt was being incurred. And Kenyans cannot see or they cannot feel the positive consequences of this debt and what it did in the country.