 And so it's hard to see any way that this debate helps him. And the question is whether they are able to do the kind of damage control they need to do from now till November. Part of the calculus and having the debate as early as it is the first time we've had a presidential debate like this before the convention. That the calculus there was to give time in case there was a disaster. So the question is whether Biden and his campaign is able to kind of come back from this.