 And I was doing my usual stuff, talking about Charlie Parker, Bird, Louis Armstrong, Jelly Roll Martin, John Coltrane, and playing records and demonstrating. And I was in the auditorium and the students were kind of lackadaisical and they were listening to me, and you know how students are, if you're doing a two hour seminar they'll get up and walk out in the hall and come back and this and that and the other.