 I didn't see anybody that looked like that. And the ones when when I was growing up, I think I get so many Baptist church. They weren't really high on women in ministry under Dr. George Roosevelt Yancey, which is when I came in. And so on women's days for all the black people who listen and everybody knows what a women's day is, they would call a principal in or some other leader in the community, but not necessarily a preacher.