 Not by holding back from him or not telling him things he doesn't want to hear or having tough conversations. I sat in many, many, many a meeting with Joe Biden where he went back and forth with us on whether we were right about this, that or the other. There is no culture of, you know, we can't say anything difficult to him. We have to just we got to just move forward. That's just not that is not the White House I worked in.