 you have a certain, I think what I realized early on is you have kind of a certain responsibility to bring something to the show. I mean, our objective every time I host a show is that we want somebody to learn something about an issue or a person. It's kind of a high bar, but you have a responsibility to do it. The transition for me, I mean, there were things about it that were very technical. Like, I have no sense of time. We realized early on that I could just interview people for like an hour and a half and