 about 30% of the time also indicate a parent who is experiencing abuse. That a lot of times it's because the parent is themselves the victim of domestic violence that the children are then taken away. And then the children can blame themselves for what happened. And so leading children to these experiences and giving them the reassurances that their parents are OK, that they might have been being harmed, but now they're OK, or their parent doesn't blame them, that they are not abandoned, that they are still loved,