 Welcome, everyone, to the GovNavigators show, a government-focused program that won't make you seasick. We're the GovNavigators. I'm Robert Shea. And I'm Adam Hughes. We hope to enlighten and enliven your week with news and insightful, entertaining guests, all on the topic of government management. Enjoy today's episode of GovNavigators, brought to you by the creative geniuses behind the award-winning podcast, FedHeads.