 But with products, I think the big difference is that there's a lot of initiatives going on that are aimed at transforming systems, at enhancing compliance, rooting out noncompliance solutions and things of that nature that industry is really having to adapt to and adjust to and learn about very quickly and on the fly in some cases as they're rolling out a lot of these initiatives alongside of each other. And so there's just a lot that vendors are having to respond to and having to figure out right now on the product side of the house that is made