 But I attribute a lot of my ability to work with this unique population from the get-go. From my own experience of training with the Marine Security Guard overseas, my parents were there with the Foreign Service, the U.S. State Department Foreign Service. And so when I'd go visit them, I'd hang out with the Marines, and I'd work out with Marines. And, I don't know, in rock climbing, I would like to think there's a little bit of comparison with them, but I remember this one soldier's like...