 And when they were saying that lesbians would be bad for feminism, I remember Gloria Steinem sharing that sometimes we have to be lesbians, even though she's a heterosexual woman, to get the point across. And that day I felt like a transgender person. That I had to come from a transgender perspective, not a black perspective, not a woman perspective, not a lesbian perspective, but put myself in their shoes. And to work around the issue from that perspective. So we became, for the first time, I thought I never could find a more oppressed group than myself.