 That from the first debate of 2020. And we'll see how the debate goes tonight when those two men meet again on stage. The debate hosted by CNN starts at 9 p.m. Eastern. You can watch it on CNN or you can watch it on C-SPAN, too. It's being simulcast here. And if you do that, you can watch our pre-show and our post-show here on C-SPAN. Terry, Woodbridge, Illinois, Republican, what do you think about these debates? Well, I think that...