 So so if you if you want to be factual about it, I think I think Joe Biden had much more on his side. If you're looking for presentation and look, we know the history of debates. Sometimes it's not what they say. Look, John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon didn't have much difference to say, but JFK looked great and Nixon didn't. And that's one of the reasons Kennedy won the debate. I think that's one of the reasons by Trump won the debate tonight, even though what he said was a lot of malarkey, as somebody would say.