 So they had no idea what was happening because they were continually being lied and manipulated by the staff that were trained to do that. And there were other children in there, there were foster children, and they had nobody to call, no one to talk to. So all of the kids in these places, they're not able to speak to their families without someone sitting right next to them. So it's really difficult to be able to tell anyone what's happening in the outside world.