 The Army can't do this alone, and it needs people who have been out there, who have done the work, who've gone to the West, and can help the Army get where they need to go. Like, literally be like, don't go 10 miles that way. It's a swamp kind of a thing, which if you don't have a map or a sense of where things are, you're not going to know. So you need that knowledge that sits in place, and Carson is one of these figures. So at times an Army officer,