 Do you think it changed a lot of people's attitudes towards transgendered people? Definitely. My work with Jessica Xavier and my work with the other woman, I can't think of her name, the African-American transgender person. Earlene Budd. Earlene Budd. But my work with them, and that following year we decided to include them in our conference. And I think from that point on we realized that we had made mistakes within the gay community in how we looked at transgendered people. And that there was another level of sensitivity that we all could be educated on.