 You could go back to 2020 to get an idea of what tonight will be like. Different rules, as we've talked about back in 2020 during the first presidential debate, the former then the then president, President Trump, interrupted the then Vice President Joe Biden over 100 times. As you heard from the governor, as you've heard throughout leading up to tonight's debate, the microphones will be muted. And so they will hope they hope that that's going to cut down.