 She and I partnered and interviewed 1,500 people on porches and bedsides and in emergency rooms and shelters. We asked them, what makes it hard for you to stay healthy and what should we be doing differently? We used that to then design the impact model based on the answers to the questions that we were asking folks about how they would design a community health worker program. We then rolled it out and tested it in three separate randomized control trials and found that