 And he says there's just this really wide range of experiences across the 260,000 employees. The experience of employees will vary widely among today's operating components. Where a person sits in DHS is going to have a different lens. If you're in Region 9 in California with FEMA, or if you're at the southern border with the Border Patrol, or in CIS call centers in Vermont, you're going to have a much different view of what the department means to you.