 But since we've frozen that pay for so long, what has happened is that the overlap between your senior managers, your GS14s and 15s, has continued to bump up against that of your senior executives. And so what does this mean at the end of the day? There are risks and rewards of climbing the ladder in any job. Theoretically, if you take on riskier and bigger jobs or harder to do jobs, you would expect to get paid more.