 be at the top of the ticket, and that's the less risky choice. And there are a lot of Biden's defendants who are saying, no, the less risky choice is to stay the course. And nobody knows for sure what the answer to that question is. I want to come back to Kamala Harris and that other choice, but let me give the phone numbers for viewers to call in. It's 202-748-8000 for Democrats to call in, Republicans 202-748-8001.