 was producing Sweet Honey's anniversary concert. And I had worked with Karen on the Capital City Jazz Festival when it was at the convention center many moons ago. And as a result of that, Karen asked me to help her with one of the Sweet Honey anniversary concerts, which used to be held every year at the Warner Theater in November. And I said, of course I would. And that is when I met Dr. Regan. And, you know, I worked with Karen as production assistant and