 Well, I think there's actually a fair amount of discussion about the context of the war ending for Ukraine's future security and a lot of discussion about the potential for alliance membership in that context. But one thing that I think is perhaps not getting as much discussion as it should is the question of how the alliance is going to deal with Russia in the long term after the hot phase of this war is over. We're not likely to be facing good choices in that context. There are likely to be choices between sort of bad and worse.