 We've got an interesting perspective coming next on vaccines and what we may have to do as a country the next time that there's a pandemic. It's a guy who works as a lawyer here in town in D.C., but he started out in Arkansas and learned about health care in the conservative world of Arkansas politics. So stay with us to hear what he has to say about convincing more people maybe to get their vaccines and how to change some minds about the whole thing. That's coming up next.