 Well, we're having a similar debate in the U.S. Senator Wicker of Mississippi, the ranking member of the Armed Services Committee, has a new plan out to go to 5% of GDP on defense. And I was just at a foreign policy retreat where the budget analysts then talked about entitlement spending and where the tradeoffs might lie. And these are tough choices. We have some students with us today, Hapaga. And so I want to have you help them with an exam question.