 well also we have this group of donors um the washington post reporting that they're putting together two million dollars to have something that would be akin to like a mini primary it says they're pressing for an open competition for the democratic nomination that would draw public attention if biden drops out the group is looking for robust debates rather than merely coalescing around vice president harris or another nominee and michael you heard um this floating of a mini primary kind of idea and whether that would be a better way not only to vet potentially vice president harris