 And I think that that might change some voters' voting calculus, if they might say, well, I don't like either candidate, but if I really had to choose, I prefer one or the other for philosophical, party, ideological, policy reasons, or any other reasons that they might have. Okay, Julia Azari, you get a chance to talk about your home state up there in Wisconsin. What is it that's in the water up there, 1960, 1968?