 And then after that process, somebody is spit out of that process. And a lot of people are angry. They're disappointed. Maybe they don't like who the person is. And then you have a person who is untested, even if they're great and they have enormous potential, which we have a lot of 2028 Democrats who do, who's untested with low name ID and a party that's divided and upset. That's the potential outcome of an open convention. The party would unite, Jen, behind whoever came out of that convention.