 And when it comes to Gen-AI, and I think that's where we'll spend the bulk of our discussion today, there's still a lot of dipping the toe in, making sure they understand. You see this with the Energy Department guide that I mentioned. They're very clear this is not a policy. This is just a reference guide. And even the Air Force, I remember talking to Venus Goodwine, the CIO, back in December, and she was all like, we're ready to go with Gen-AI. Oh, maybe we're not.