 that's pulling children away from their dads, man, you're going to have to roll up your sleeves and get involved. And quite frankly, I don't think some people want to get involved. I think that you want to act like you want to be involved, but when it comes time to really get down to it, you find a way to back out of the situation. I'm talking about pastors, reverends, preachers, bishops, family members, clergy...