 Good morning. Thanks for having me here. I don't think we should irretrievably commit to NATO membership for Ukraine. I'm a very strong supporter of Ukraine, have been from the beginning, will continue to be all the way through victory. But I believe Ukraine's security and economic future ultimately is vested in the European Union. People forget this, but the European Union actually has a very strong set of collective defense articles as well, Lisbon's 42.7. And that language legally is...