 They don't talk about it in the terms of how people understand it. They don't understand it, once again, in terms of rates, but they understand in terms of how much money they actually spend. And I think a little bit more empathy, a little bit more emotion relative to those problems would go a long way, at the very least, in the right direction when it comes to the Biden camp. Cliff Young, the president of Polling and Societal Trends with Ipsos, thank you very much for the conversation this morning. Thank you.