 I just told him, I go, hey, man, you're the biggest badass I know. That was my opening salvo. And then we started joking about hair. And I said, can I call you Evander Holyfield because of the little missing chunk of ear? So we actually had some fun. It was just literally up on speakerphone. It was Kim, and my daughter was there, and my ex-wife was there, and some of my other kids were there. And Eric's on another phone.