 Initially, I saw the reports online and I did not make the connection immediately because when I was introduced to him, we never really introduced each other by name. We just veteran to veteran. We just had a conversation. It wasn't until the company announced that we lost a member that I started to make that connection. And it wasn't until some of the people that I worked with came up to me and told me that that's when I realized that who Aaron Bushnell was.