 uplevel how we think about delivering services and bringing in the right talent and rethinking how they deliver things. Obviously, we're not going to work with them in a like, you don't know what you're doing way. It's much more of like a support and collaboration way. So I think there are some nuances like that that have had a material shift. And I would say because of our track record of transformational success. So let's look at the VA and DHS as examples.