 But I wish we still had that interview on cue so that we could share that with you. But maybe we can find it in the archives. Anyway, happy birthday to Doug Karn. May you continue to strive and create as beautifully as you have in the past. And again, that was for Suji and Brad Grant. It's 1237 here in the nation's capital. My name is Miyuki. Stay with me. Coming up next is Open Sky with Willard Jenkins. If you tune in around this time tomorrow, you'll hear Elliot.