 uh, some amazing people, including one, uh, this Israeli retired general Shimonave, who's, who's the founder of the military design movement. Uh, and, and he actually was banished from Sam's at that point because he had, he had pissed off the faculty so much or some of them that he wasn't allowed on campus. So I had to meet him like in clandestine meetings at Starbucks and, you know, and this guy, he's just, he's crazy and brilliant and also like all sorts of things tied into one. So he's,