 Vicki had no recollection of telling that story or what it meant to me. Well, I just happened to tell it in the course of the biographer asking me, well, who's your aunt Vicki and what does she mean to you? And I just started riffing on all these crazy stories, basically retelling her police stories because they were cool. And then the biographer helped me kind of understand that they were more than cool. They were really some of the foundations of my military leadership that I got from her.