 So I took some lessons I had learned in Columbia about I want to stand out from other white people and from the wrong kind of white people and found my first version of those wrong kind of white people, because there were some jocks and some hunters and some guys from outside of town in my high school. And they became my first set of foils that I define myself against. So these were the communities that not trying to and parallel to all of these intentional messages from my parents.