 It's called Hacking for Defense. One resulting startup, called Pharos Aerospace, hopes to help both defense and commercial satellite operators deal with space debris. For more, I spoke with former University of Chicago students Victor Tine and Brian Klein. You were students at the time you took the BNMT-sponsored and DOD-sponsored course in entrepreneurship. Tell us about the journey and what the course was like and what you were trying to accomplish in taking it.