 But he's going to give us a 411 on what's going on with them and their next moves. And now, John Arroyo. Okay, so wait. I just have to say, when I first met John, it was when Founding Farmers was opening. We were at, it was like a media dinner. David was actually with me. It was one of the few times that he was invited in the early days. Oh, my. Wait, wait, wait. And it was a gauntlet-thrown moment because the cocktail scene was really just starting to gurgle here in D.C. And you said something like,