 So we all know about this. So I think at this point we have to look at the quality of people that are surrounding these people, what their current policies are in place, who they have that's going to be next in line for them, because you don't know. The average age right now, both of them have surpassed it when you look at what the average lifespan of a person is in the United States. Dr. Appel, I take it you agree with that?