 It'll certainly make the Chicago Convention very interesting, as Chicago Conventions in the past have been very interesting. History. History is always our guide. Thanks very much, Jeff. Good to talk to you. You bet. Thank you. Jeff Dufour, live on WTOP on Skype. He's the National Journal Editor-in-Chief. He also publishes the Sunday night political newsletter called The Sunday Nightcap. A delicious cocktail recipe is included with every issue.