 quite young, by these standards. So there are reasons like that why this could be the right timing for her in a way that, especially if she's going to become the nominee, there probably wouldn't be a contested convention. That's part of Sunday's Washington Journal. You can see more at c-span.org forward slash Washington Journal and on the C-SPAN Now video app. Now on C-SPAN Radio, the Sunday Network TV talk shows continue. This week with George Stephanopoulos starts right now. Standing firm.