 There's a lot of moments of a scientist going, ah, and then the quote goes on. And I was wondering, A, did you just have a recorder going with you while you're spelunking into a cave in Puerto Rico? And B, what was that like? How did you goad them into opening up more, especially when they are obviously very fearful of saying something that reads as unscientific or might put them in the Gagliano category?