 interested in learning more about this person and so I started watching speeches and I started listening to him and you know not only was he black obviously had a black wife and had black children but he knew like a lot of struggles of the community he didn't grow up in this like you know home with the picket fence and I was just like I can relate to so many things he's saying and I actually understand for the first time some politics and government that I never understood before but I didn't know anybody and