 It's a very telling one, one we hear a lot, especially in focus groups. I've often said before the debate, Biden supporters don't care if he's 80, 800, 8,000. He's not Donald Trump, and therefore they're going to vote for him. I think there's a lot of that sentiment. But this is not the individual that the Biden campaign should be worried about. They should be worried about independents, those on the margins, maybe moderate Republicans that might not even vote in the key swing states. It's there we should look specifically.