 when he needed to ring Bill in and when he needed to let Bill go. And I think the key is that, and Dave says this, is that Bill knows the game so well. And I think that's true. Whenever you hear him engage in just direct, straightforward analysis of what's going on in the court, there's nobody who knows the game better than him, I don't think. And Dave said that, you know, and he said, but that's just kind of boring to him. It's sort of like,