 And so we're non-reflective. We're non-thinking thinking. Double loop, though, is where we say, wait a minute. Something happened here, and it's not what was supposed to happen. And so when they realized the well was being destroyed, they went right into single loop, which was got to be bad people. But when they caught and realized that the women were doing it, the first element there was really double loop thinking, which is, wow.