 They weren't punishing players for usage. Baseball basically turned a blind eye to all this stuff. So it's disingenuous for me to set these standards now of, oh, these things matter when they didn't matter at the time. Do you feel that the Hall of Fame is becoming the Hall of Very Good? You mentioned Scott Rowland. You mentioned Harold Baines. Guys who, when you think Hall of Famer, you don't necessarily think about them. But a lot of guys, and this goes back decades, guys who have gotten in who have had...