 We had all kinds of discrimination inside the shop. When I got hired at Dodge Mains, I'd go in with a white buddy of mine, I'd end up in the foundry and he'd end up my foreman. Or I'd end up spot welding in the body shop and he'd end up in skilled trades. Discrimination was just that tough. You couldn't get the kind of positions that were held open mainly for blacks at a lot of these Chrysler and GM plants.