 Trump's rather thin cultural populism. So it's dangerous. And I come back to the fact that the Democrats have got to do better than Biden if they're going to contest this. I mean, Biden's done great stuff, but the number of Americans who think he's too old, he's too fragile, he's too feeble, the fact that he can't keep his line straight. And the fact that Vance, by the way, is an excellent debater, uh,