 I can tell you that one of the things that's been interesting here in North Carolina is that as the talk turned after the debate about, well, who are the potential successors if President Biden can't be on the ballot? Of course, you hear Kamala Harris, the vice president, but you also hear a number of other names, including governors. And some of those lists of governors include our governor, the one that I mentioned, Roy Cooper, who has won in a purplish, maybe a little bit