 And I always joke with them, listen, if you can find somebody who can do that with repeated success, let me know because I'd love to hire them, right? And so we have a good sense for how certain asset classes can behave over time. So things like the S&P 500, which is the TSPC fund, we know how over time those things tend to behave. And it's different than how a small cap fund or a mid cap fund would behave or bonds or anything else.