 It's funny, the people I bring on to interview that I've known the longest, whenever I interview them, I realize how little I know. So first off, I didn't know about Des Moines, Iowa. I didn't know about piano and the flute. I didn't know any of these things. So this is all news to me, which is why I love being able to host this show, because it gives me at least what I think are different insights into the motivations for people and why they do what they do. And so thinking about...