 And the campaign are not saying they wouldn't do that stuff. They just don't want to be associated with the least popular elements of it. That's them before us. Dave Weigel here for this conversation. We'll hear from Shirley next. Shirley's in Ohio, Democrats line. Yes, good morning. Good morning. And thank you, David. You are really explaining things this morning. I really appreciate it. Thank you. You don't sound biased. You don't sound political. You sound like what my dad called common sense man.