 And he told this story, I remember vividly, he said, you know, our goal was that if we put in enough produce, enough potatoes, we would rot the food, and then the German army that was getting the food would starve. So just imagine you are a prisoner of war, you are Jewish, you are held by the Nazis in World War II, in a prisoner of war work camp, and you are taking pieces of barbed wire, you are poking them against your bare skin till they're bloody, your fingers are bloody, with the off hope that the result of this will be to start the Nazi war effort and win.