 I would watch the UCLA games. I was growing up in Virginia, and they used to play. They used to, for some reason, they would show UCLA games from Pauley Pavilion after the late news on the weekend. And so I used to stay up late and watch Bill play and was just always marveled at his play and his ability. And then, of course, as I learned more about him, I was fascinated with his activism, too, at UCLA. And so over the years, I had certainly paid attention to Bill as a player and