 And how worried should Europeans be? How far could the process go under Donald Trump or in either case? Either case. I think under Donald Trump, it could go very, very rapidly and very, very far. It's interesting to hear from Emma that maybe that would be better off. I'd have to consider that. I think she might be right. I've for a long time been advocating for this idea that Europeans can either can expect an American entrenchment that is either sort of