 And what happened, I still remember Nathaniel Mackie in the doorway of the gallery up at Howard saying, man, this is what I've been writing about. And on the next cover of Hambone Magazine that he was putting out was Ed Love's sculpture on the cover. But when I say that, it goes back to what I was describing to you about you creating sculpture and installation, that I see your work having that same type of level as Nathaniel Mackie. That you have to prepare yourself