 In an exclusive interview with ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos, Biden acknowledged his poor debate performance last week, but insisted his record will win over voters. He even used the rally held Friday, where about 300 people showed up in Madison, Wisconsin, as a sign he has voter support. But Stephanopoulos pushed back on that. I don't think you want to play the crowd game. Donald Trump can draw big crowds. There's no question about that. He can draw a big crowd, but what does he say? Who does he have? I'm the guy supposedly in trouble.