 I moved to the Middle East to Dubai in 2001. I was 19 years old, moved to the Middle East. I got there by myself, didn't speak English. I don't know where I was, what to do. And then within like two months, Silvan joined the company. And I didn't know him prior to this, but because he was Swiss, we were like, oh, we're going to be friends now because we have somebody to talk. So we worked in the Middle East for about four years.