 Ben Sasse, former U.S. Senator, Republican from Nebraska, and he is now University of Florida president at the National Governors Association summer meeting in Salt Lake City. The this he was talking about, he was holding up, of course, a smartphone. Thanks for listening to Washington Today. Subscribe to C-SPAN's free evening newsletter, Word for Word, and get the stories making headlines in Washington sent to your inbox every day. Sign up at c-span.org slash connect. Have a good night.