 And that seems to be the key. Talk about Dr. Melvin Higgins, about how you introduced that character into the book in that section. And then we'll pick it up after the break. So this will be. OK, so Melvin Higgins, you know, she's like kind of a composite of different black women scholars. I have to say that the person I had in mind, this is not someone I know, but when I've seen her at conferences and the work I've read was Horton Spillers.