 And I think there's a lot of kind of hubris in that approach to understanding voters. And so I hoped that by spending time in those communities and really listening to people, I could better understand what are the forces that are shaping those narratives. And so what I found is that the local organizations that structure community life are really important for helping us kind of tell the stories that make sense of what our problems are and who we are as people and where we fit into party politics.