 women's experience of disempowerment, as Naila Kabir has called it, is key. And therefore that takes us to the perennial question, and I'm going to answer it before somebody in the audience asks me it is, when do you talk to men? And I say, I'm in politics. 75% of the people I talk to are men. That's the reality of it. But the point is that what we're saying is understanding that the