 Yeah, so, I mean, just from a timing standpoint, I've always kind of been interested in environmental issues. I've always been interested in being outside, you know, the normal kinds of things that I would say conventional awareness. I was at OFPP when Al Gore was vice president, so Earth and the Balance was a pretty big deal. And a lot of people won't remember this, but I was at OFPP when the White House created the first federal environmental executive.