 They forced Trump to be restrained two minutes at a time. Nobody can. I mean, well, they forced Trump. They gave Trump two minutes to be a demagogue. And I saw that's one of the few things I've gotten right in the last few years. I've got to say, I thought these rules were good for Trump. You can't give him 120 seconds unchallenged. Either you have to have a situation where the moderators were very able to challenge him. But CNN didn't want that in the campaigns. So we didn't want that.