 And maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think we'll see a natalization of Ukraine right now. As long as the U.S. is against it, that's just where the end of the line is. Sam, a common refrain you hear from senior officials in countries on the eastern flank, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, is if Putin's successful in Ukraine, we will be next, that he would cross the threshold and attack NATO's eastern flank. What do you make of that argument? Is that accurate?