 Michelle there in Birmingham, Alabama. By the way, the vice president heading to New Orleans today, she will attend the 2024 Essence Festival of Culture. She's going to be interviewed by Essence Magazine's president and CEO. Coverage of that event slated around 6.15 this evening. If you want to see the interview and the vice president's appearance there, that's c-span.org. You can go or you can follow along also on our app, our mobile app. That's free. That's C-SPAN Now.