 for Bill Clinton's grand jury testimony, because he was the one who had set up the secure communications. And he tells the story about he was there for the practice sessions. It was just Clinton and his lawyers and Gary Bresnan, who's everywhere. And they were doing the practice. And after about an hour, they took a break. And Clinton turns to him and says, so how am I doing? And Gary goes, I have no idea how you're doing. I'm just the videographer.