 So he tries a televised cabinet meeting, but the issue with the televised cabinet meeting is that it was incredibly scripted, as you can imagine. They set up cameras and people had scripts that they were literally reading, and it was clear that this was scripted. So yes, they talked about the issues of the day, foreign policy and economic challenges, but they did so in a way that didn't seem like it was actually a fly on the wall where you were seeing these policy discussions.