 but some things, but also my own nose taking me to things that I found of interest, you know? And yeah. I really appreciate you sharing that journey. Cause I mean, to be honest, usually I delve way more into the, into the personal of the guests for like the first whole 30 minutes, but I respect your boundaries and I appreciate you sharing the stories that you've shared because they give context to the listener. Who is this guy who maybe I've heard of, maybe I haven't, but he's about to tell me about this amazing work and what,