 where we had nice things to say, where he had nice things to say about what we were doing, and that he would wish us luck as we went on our journey. But it was the complete opposite. As we engaged with Mr. McConaughey on that Zoom call, he kept asking questions. There was a genuine curiosity about him and a sincerity about this work. If any of you have read his book, Greenlights, it's unbelievable, and you hear him talk about some of these things.