 And so then on that point, I noticed the Trump administration still viewed Russia as an acute threat on peer, a peer adversary threat that the United States had to contend with. And it seems like the Biden administration also wants to do sort of an Asia pivot like what the Obama administration did. So is your view, though, you mentioned about Russia's continued threat to the Baltic countries and to Poland. So you take Putin seriously at his word that if he's not stopped in Ukraine, that he will continue to advance on NATO?