 And that number didn't change after the debate. It's still Democrats are evenly divided. They were evenly divided before the debate on whether or not he should remain the nominee. And that number was pretty stable. So on the one hand, you might say it's not great news that his party is evenly divided on whether or not he should be the nominee. But there wasn't some huge growth in the share of Democrats saying that he should no longer be the nominee. So I think that's the glimmer of good news for Biden here. New York Times polling editor Ruth Gelnick tonight on WTOP.