 So essentially what's happening here is they're claiming, again, so these are areas of Scots-Irish migration, but what Vance and Webb are doing is claiming a whiteness apart. So what people in the 19th century were doing when claiming Scots-Irish identity was to say, look, we are just as white as these other white Anglo-Saxon Protestants. But in our time, in the 21st century, to claim Scots-Irish ancestry is to say, yes, I may be white, but I'm not like those Northeasterners. I'm not like these elites on the coasts.