 in a way that may make a longer term arrangement with russia more negotiable i don't know i'm not making that claim lee's and i are trying to develop an alternative concept that may or may not prove useful but what i like about what i've seen in the news the last three days and i'll finish on this point is that nato now wants to have more presence in ukraine it appears with the idea of having not nato combat forces but a nato political mission and a military liaison mission in kiev