 So last week I go to my pharmacist and my copay is twice what it normally is. I look at the pharmacist, hey, why am I paying more? He looks on the computer. I'm not sure why the PBM raised your rates, but if you pay cash, we'll save money. This public policy debate hosted by the Edward M. Kennedy Institute, moderated by Chuck Todd of NBC, Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse and Republican Senator Bill Cassidy.