 the interest on our debt. And we've got to address this $34.5 trillion debt that we have saddled ourselves with. And yes, it's been Republicans and Democrats. I'm not going to say it's just been one side. All of us have spent too much money. We've got to tighten our belt. You wouldn't run your home budget like this. None of us would. I was a small businessman for 32 years. I could have never stayed in business for that long if I had run my business like this.