 convention, not necessarily saying that an open process. I think there should be a process that the Rules Committee set in place. But let's be clear, there were 14 million people in the primary that voted for the Biden-Harris ticket. And so with the full endorsement and full endorsement of Biden, I don't think that it was just about personalities that why people voted for Biden. It was really about policy. And some of those policies people really want to see supported.