 to maintain even an appearance of an independent justice department or a federal reserve. Okay. That's Brent. Last call for this open forum. Thanks to all who participated at this time. Usually on a Saturday, we take a look at a substack, a spotlight on substacks, as we call it. Our guest joining us next, Sharon McMahon. She is the author of the Preamble substack newsletter. It's about teaching the American public about government and politics, and we'll talk about those related themes when Washington Journal continues.