 Now Vance, Zebulon Vance was from Buncombe County. And that's another great county name from North Carolina, Buncombe County. So Vance, he was the war governor of North Carolina. And he was very popular in the mountains. He had been a Whig before the war. And Zebulon Vance had been a colonel, 26 North Carolina. Vance used both the carrot and the stick during his time in office to try to bring people back.