 But at the same time, they are ripping off the public. I think one of the most significant things about this is that, yes, the FTC now has said that they're going to sue because of insulin prices. There is no reason in the world insulin should be as expensive as it is. They are ripping off the public. PBMs have no value whatsoever in health care. They're not bringing value to it. They're only driving prices up.