 I'm not that impressed by him. I know a lot of people say, well, hardscrabble, he grew up dirt poor and all of that. Well, a lot of people grew up dirt poor. Clarence Thomas, the Supreme Court justice, grew up dirt poor, but he doesn't get any credit for that. So we'll see. I mean, he's kind of new in the national scene. He will have to develop his bona fides between now and the election. He certainly has a great personal story. He has a lovely wife. He's got three kids.