 Martha, what do we know about these folks, these double haters? So double haters are people that tell pollsters that they don't like Trump and they don't like Biden. And many of them like the Democrat who's running for Senate or have opinions about other races on the ballot. But they are dissatisfied with the choice that is before them for president. And they double haters is it's a term that pollsters came up with to to really describe these folks who are.