 Real hard time. You go through the process. You have to go through the process. So when you refine, it's like a refinement. And when you get to the other stage, you will see the end product. What people see now is just the end product. But I've been through stages and rough times. Many times I give up. I say stop writing and I refuse to write because nothing happened. But I realize in my spirit, I can't give up. You have to have strong spirit and determination. So whatever your dreams are,