 The difference is today we live off of our iPhones, our emails, right? And we do all the prep and in a lot of military environments, you can't do that. So we're still very pad and paper and we have a lot of kind of communication structure. And I was talking yesterday, it would be so great if military leaders could get real, that commercial experience to see how do we deal with risk and use technology and do things at a much faster, efficient pace. And it's also for civilian leaders to get the military understanding of the authorities and the complexities and the