 That's ABC's Jay O'Brien in Milwaukee. We'll take you back to Milwaukee at 7.45 tonight. We're scheduled to speak with Kirk Bado of National Journal. He's the hotline editor at National Journal, making his way around the convention hall tonight. And we hope to hear some of his live reporting at 7.45. So stay with us for your whole drive. Ask your smart speaker to play WTOP and use the free WTOP app on any mobile device.