 specifically for the reasons that you said, to learn lessons, to collaborate, to share notes, and focus on what are some of the key issues that you're experiencing. We didn't want to do this in a vacuum. And those have been very effective. It's very different from the prac. With the pandemic scenario, that was a lot of money going out the door in a very fast fashion, directly to users, directly to beneficiaries. Under the other two scenarios, the infrastructure bill and the Inflation Reduction Act,