 before and after separation. And what I tell veterans all the time is ensure that you're connecting with your fellow veterans who've been out of the military, because then we can give them guidance. We can talk about what type of careers exist to support them in whatever career path they're choosing to explore. I think that is inherently important. One of the biggest challenges that I see often from veterans, because I've been in the corporate space, as you know, working with veteran community, is that oftentimes we want to initially separate from the military, separate from that community.