 And we're talking to Frank Smith. And Joyce, just let me say, you know, I still take some direction from your sister, Dori Ladner, who I can hear her loudly telling me to make sure we let people know that July 17th is Lawrence Guyot's birthday, born in 1939. Dori was very close to Guyot, as was I. And he was the director of the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party.