 We are in location at Aspen Ideas Health, and we are joined by Gregory Jackson, who's the deputy director of the Office of Gun Violence Prevention at the White House and also special assistant to President Biden. I grew up in rural Virginia. My dad had 26 guns. I inherited a gun. I'm a gun owner. And so the Office of Gun Violence Prevention is led by gun owners. And so we like to just start with that. Secondly, recognizing that we're not here to...