 When that gets said, you go, okay, well then this is kind of kismet, so that means we're in a good place. A family affair now streaming on Netflix. He's trained some of the brightest and the best. Hollywood acting coach Bernard Hiller is our guest on the next edition of Showbiz Upfront, available at Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Much more on showbizexpress.com and for the Showbiz Express Network, I'm Ross Crystal.