 and those are facts you know uh the intentionality that an artist moves through or so you know someone who's really dedicated to craft and storytelling like there's a lot of things you end up saying no to you know um and anyway that's another story so that was sort of my trajectory man it was like all these things that um sort of guided me based upon my own interests and passion and uh i was lucky enough and to be in the right time at the right place