 or whatsoever and then obviously the culture aspect of it you know plays along with that I think where a lot of people and a lot of conversation are happening is because so many of us still one doesn't understand that we all have our biases right and then second it's like we don't know kind of like how to manage them because we've been kind of thought taught of like if you say something or if you do something that's wrong right and stuff like that there's no opportunity to kind of