 Right now, the head of Estonia, who's going to become the High Representative for Foreign Policy at the European Union, very much a NATO girl. She knows NATO very well, but she knows the EU very well too. And the new NATO Secretary General, Mark Rutte, formerly Prime Minister of the Netherlands, who also knows the two institutions very well. And what we've seen is a lot of defiance coming from both institutions for the past three decades, with a lot of reluctance to work together. I'm hoping that with these two new people