 A lot of us come out here and we don't know, and I give it to D.C. Justice Lab and the opportunity they gave me because they had a policy training course that I was able to take. And in taking that policy training academy, I fell in love with this work. Have you been in a solitary before? Yes. How many times have you been in it? Multiple times, and I would say I've been in the SMU program and everything, and at the time I was in it, it was an 18-month program. It started off phase one and two was in Talladega, Alabama. I've been to Talladega.