 not just because of Ukraine, not just because of the threats on Europe's periphery, but also because of what Russians and others are doing in terms of hybrid warfare within Europe. And so there is going to be a very, very real sense of urgency. And at the same time, as Jim said, a sense of self-questioning. And that's, I think, the old part. The old part is not NATO at this point. It's some of our leaders looking pretty old.