 in a fantastic convention that went multiple ballots. I don't think we'd have multiple ballots, but people would say, what's going to happen? How's this going to work? And I think it would be important for the country and important for the candidate who wins to have emerged successful from that process. And Latasha Brown, what would you envision for what should happen? What should happen at the DNC? How do you disagree with Jim Zogby?