 And even our customers have continued to adopt the remote workforce model. So not all of our customers are back on site. They are starting to come back as well as we are. Right. But that has introduced additional challenges for sure. Yeah, I think that hybrid idea is never going away now, right? No, hopefully not. Well, we're going to take a quick break. Okay. I'm Vanessa Roberts. We'll return to continue our conversation with Thomas Sturgison, CIO of Paraton, after this brief break.