 No, that's absolutely correct. So right-sizing the governance, building a governance model that really honors the value associated with the highly distributed nature that NASA has, I think is important. Dave Salvanini is NASA's new Chief Artificial Intelligence Officer and Data Officer. There's much more to the interview. Hear it in its entirety at federalnewsnetwork.com slash Federal Drive. Hear the Federal Drive on demand. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.