 I suppose there's also the idea of achieving a level of intimacy on a stage level. I'm sure the platform and the lights and the TVs help, but how else do you achieve that? Sure. Our lighting plan really does create intimacy to move your focal point all the way back to that lectern on the main podium itself. We are very respectful. Of course, the delegates are on the floor, so we have to keep it pretty lit, which is a departure from a concert or anything like that.