 interviews this year alone. And we're going to continue that. He's going to do an interview with ABC, George Stephanopoulos this week. Those were unscripted. Those were unscripted. He's done more than 500 gaggles. Those are unscripted. And we want to continue to do that. We do. We want to continue to do that. There's going to be a press conference next week, a NATO big boy press conference, as Justin has reminded us, next week. And so that's going to be important as well.