 So we met in a third country and the person I was talking to is known to be a master negotiator. Like this guy's famed for just squeezing people. And so I sat down across from him and he said, he very confidently said, you know, I hold X number of your hostages and I could probably make 25% of your workload go away if we can work on something. So he was taking charge of the negotiation and I looked at him, I just kind of leaned back and I said,