 How often do you talk to them? When was the last time you spoke with Paul and or Evan? And can you tell us how are they? I'll give you a little color. So Evan was visited by Ambassador Tracy on the 23rd of May in LaForteva Prison. Paul Waitland had a consular visit in February with the United States government. Evan's, he's just in a different part of the process right now. So communication's not as, I guess, doesn't happen as often.