 This is just we're all being hoodwinked. Got your point, Lowell. Jim Mantle. I mean, I do hear that a lot. A lot of people say that, you know, and certainly Trump, the reason he agreed to debate terms that a lot of people thought were not favorable to him is he thought that getting Biden on the debate stage at all would work to his advantage. And they were actually somewhat skeptical they were ever going to see him on the debate stage. But I think it's important to remember that this was a Biden campaign campaign.