 checking out groceries. So we both got off at 11.30 at night and met at the bar. And one night, on one of my nights off, I started talking to the news director who asked me, you know, what I was going to do when I got out of college. Now, you know, once again, this is back in the 70s. This news director was 35 years old. He was the oldest person in that newsroom except for the sports guy.