 We're going to take a short break now, and when we return, we'll continue our conversation with Arun Gupta, the CEO of Noble Reach Foundation and author of the book, Venture Meets Mission. I'm Dave Wenderen, and you're listening to Accelerating Government, brought to you by ACT-IAC on Federal News Network. Here's Doug Robertson from the Small Business Administration on the Federal Executive Forum profiling Chief Technology Officers, sponsored by Red Hat.