 And we have used the FEV surveys in some of these by saying, okay, which office has a high FEV score? So then we go there and we will have, and we'll make them small. Again, keep them 10, 15 people so that we can have a really fruitful, there's no raising hands necessarily, just pipe in, have a discussion. And we'll go and we'll ask, well, what are you doing right?