 people who are being written about in books or stories try to get out of it is by threatening to sue. And that's essentially what he was doing, saying, I'm going to sue you. I'm going to take your house. I'm going to take your money. And that was his tactic. I saw a picture in preparation for this of Mr. Kordovich, and he was dating at the time Jeff Zeleny of CNN, a reporter. I think it was at the White House. Yes. Walking in, holding hands.