 to know how to infect humans. And we now know that there were papers published by that lab in 2014, 2015, where they acknowledged they successfully had learned how to teach the COVID virus, the coronavirus they were working with, how to infect human tissue. And I think the last thing I'll say on this is it should strike people, and this is what I get upset about some of my advocates for spillover. If you ask the question today about COVID-19,