 This was in the early 1980s, and he had been a prisoner of war in World War II. He was a Jewish soldier from New York who had been captured by the Nazis. So just imagine that for a moment. You are a Jewish soldier from New York City who has literally been captured by the Nazis, and you are in a stalag. And he and his fellow Jewish soldiers who were prisoners of war were put to work and doing various work detail projects, and they wanted to do something.