 Their best scenario is a weakened Joe Biden losing the election to them. They know how that looks. They were less certain about what a Harris-led ticket would work. But they were saying it's too late to change nominees. And the Heritage Foundation, which put out a memo before the debate saying there would be legal problems if they tried to replace the nominee. If you look at the state-by-state law, it doesn't really match up. For example, the Heritage Foundation cited Wisconsin, and Wisconsin's language is it's hard to replace a candidate on the ballot because of how they refer to the candidate.