 But once they're encountered with someone who might be writing something for a more general audience about this, they're very wary to even use those words. And sometimes it took a lot of building trust and explaining that I was interested in nuance in this setting to even get them to talk to me about those topics. I was going to ask you about some of that because I thought one of the really excellent parts of the book is that you capture really good quotes of dialogue. There's a lot of onomatopoeia.