 That's what Josh Wright was doing. And what's interesting to me, which is actually more a topic for our book, is that lobbying has sort of moved in D.C. from those registered, disclosed lobbyists who go up to Capitol Hill and ask for favors to more people like Josh Wright, people who are experts on topics, who are influencers on policy, who are listened to by policymakers and by members of Congress. So many of those people are actually working as lobbyists on behalf of companies or other interest groups.