 our best tech talent to be involved in thinking about it. So what we're really trying to do in that context, and the big aha moment for me, Dave, was talking to two CS students, both female CS majors, had all the opportunities in the world. One gets selected to do Kessel Run, which is a military program, and tells her friends in the Valley she's going to go do that. And her friends go, why would you do that? Like, why would you do that when you can do all the other things in the Valley?