 or this is too radical, or this is just not appropriate. And meanwhile, he's like having me read all this. And my advisors at Sam's that were working with them, they were, they were encouraging me to read this and this really blew my mind. And so it set me down on a strange journey where now I end up with a doctorate in philosophy and I'm writing and writing and writing and researching and doing work. Uh, but, uh,