 Those are sort of the table stakes, as you mentioned, right? That's a starting point for digital transformation. But I think we're trying to look past that right now. We're trying to look at how do we get away from just delivering technology to delivering true outcomes? How do we bring our customers into our delivery methodologies? How do we think about them and have them sitting there with us, telling us immediately whether what we're delivering is going to be valuable for them or not?