 People would say over the years, oh, well, you must get used to it after this. Oh, no, no. It's the middle of the night. You don't get used to it. But you get energized once you get in the station. He says his crazy schedule at WTFP had some advantages. It was actually a great fit for raising a son. I was the only guy in some cases standing there to pick him up at preschool. And we would build forts in the afternoon under a bridge table. And we would both take our naps at the same time. When you do morning drive, you take midday naps. Well...