 some amazing people, including one, this Israeli retired general Shimonave, who's the founder of the military design movement. And he actually was banished from SAMS at that point because he had pissed off the faculty so much, or some of them, that he wasn't allowed on campus. So I had to meet him in clandestine meetings at Starbucks. And this guy, he's crazy and brilliant and also all sorts of things tied into one. So he's