 It takes a little while to figure out. You've got to kind of get everything together. So a big part of that is understanding what the actual burden is. And in part, that's also because when folks understand how significant a burden it is, it basically can provide the impetus to have the sorts of resources, time, effort necessary to address it. So if everyone's like, let's take a whole bunch of time to deal with a form that takes people an hour and see if we can get down to 40 minutes,