 And typically the handoff would happen right now. But we were talking earlier today. He's got some stuff going on at the law firm. And we're going to fill in the gaps until Dan gets here, which should be no later than 436. So it'll be the third segment of this hour. In the meantime, it is Kelly Kuchera's birthday. And for all of you listeners out there, if you want to wish her a happy birthday, send those messages along to 57739. Start them, Dan, but include the word Kelly. And we'll make sure those get through to her.