 taking a wide turn around the barrel, almost as if to err on caution, because if they knock that barrel over, it's a five-second penalty. And it's a five-second penalty for every barrel you knock over. There's a fine line when you're going around it to know whether you're too close or too far. You know what's happening in front of you, but you don't know what the back of that horse is doing. The girls on there, they do. They feel the movement of that horse and knowing how their position is when they're going around it. And not every horse is the same size. It presents a unique challenge for everybody.