 probably a half hour and then they ascended up into the sky in it. And there's only three left in a triangular formation. But now since then, this was years ago, what, over 12 years ago now, um, every time I meditate and it could be during the day, it could be at night, it doesn't matter. I see orbs and they're not like they were, they weren't, they're not in color. They're now like in, um, like they look like diamonds, but they're there, they're there. And sometimes they look like a swarm of fish.