 That's right. And you are exactly right. And that was a secret to your ribs, too. But thank you so much, Dave. And you can find him on social media, at Famous Dave on Facebook, or at the handle America's Rib King on Instagram. Check out all the great recipes and his cookbooks, Famous Dave's Barbecue Party Cookbook, and, of course, Ribalicious. And coming up, we're going to be talking with Todd about how to make amazing focaccia bread right in your own pit, up next on Barbecue Radio Network.