 You're talking about like APA or MLA style, that type of formatting? Yes. In Chicago, yes. Turabian is what I had to write in. And I had a two-inch thick book. And that was not my skill set. And I really had to swallow my pride. I tried it on my own for a long time and then got really frustrated and finally just confessed to like three of my friends. I said, I don't know what I'm doing. And y'all did this in college. I didn't have to. So could you show me how to do this? They loved it.