 And I love almost their attitude around it. It was like, well, we have it. We're going to knock it out. We're going to say no to stuff, and we're just going to do it. It was just a matter of fact. There's just this level of just doing it. Just do it. Just do it. And now, I mean, with great income, no payments, it's amazing. It's an amazing thing. I mean, if you're making $100,000 a year, you don't have a payment in the world. It's great.