 I mean, his things with the greatest athlete of all time, Jody Mack, you know, Muhammad Ali, watching their banner back and forth. And like I told you, once I got closer to 16, Jody, 75, 1975, I saw him in a different light or a more mature light. When I called him brilliant, I think you'll agree with me, Jody. He was so witty. I mean, look at the greats that have been after him. But he's up there with the greats.