 Holland is an absolute maniac of a competitor. He's wired so well. He's ultra competitive, 6'8", versatile. You know, I know with the Ignite, there were some up and downs. The shooting was erratic at times, some decision-making with the ball. I'm telling you, like, before the year, if I would have done a number one or a big board, I think I would have had Ron Holland number one. And there just wasn't enough competition.