 first-time coaching positions with no experience, and they've actually done well. But, Anthony, here's the difference, though. Here's the difference, though. Here's the difference. But, Anthony, here's the difference. Those guys that you're referring to, the individuals that had no head coaching experience or assistant coaching experience in college and NBA that stepped in and got those opportunities were a two-time regular season MVP in Steve Nash, were a five-time NBA champion in Derek Fisher, were a first-ballot Hall of Fame point guard in Jason Kidd,