 the University of Southern California, and you go to one of the most innovative places you'll ever find, the University of California, Los Angeles, UCLA, and Westwood. And then you keep going down south, and you go out to Tempe Normal Women's Teachers College, I mean, Arizona State, and then the Harvard of the West, the University of Arizona, where the Wildcats play. Then they invited in Utah and Colorado, and it was the best conference in the country at one point, and now it's gone.