 All right, we've got to take another break. We'll wrap up the first hour. Andy LeClair joining us here. Very insightful. I always love getting to know you more and more, too, man. It's great conversations, so I'm looking forward to more and more of these, too. But stick around for a little bit longer. I don't know when you have to go, but 51 after the hour. It's the whole show powered by Chevron. We'll be right back.