 and had a family in the midst of everything, too, as well. But then there was something that set her on the brink of self-destruction a couple of times, and she pulled herself back. She's written a couple of books, really interesting novels, and we know she's busy. We're thrilled to have her here on Amazing Americans. Mariel, thanks for coming on. Oh, thank you for having me. So let's talk about you as your younger self