 or non-debate, as the case may be, to figure out what they were going to do. But this was, I mean, three days. So while we were in Milwaukee, it broke that he's out, he's not going to run. And then the very next day, his own campaign is saying, no, no, absolutely, he's in. Yeah, I mean, and he's not going anywhere. He's the president, he's the nominee, all of these things. So this is the mental image of the kicking and screaming.