 They are. Speaking of stars, DeMar DeRozan was thought to be a pretty big star back in the day. I don't know now if we still consider him a star in the NBA, maybe a nice player at this stage of DeMar DeRozan's career. Well, didn't exactly work out in Chicago. Started off with a bang, if you remember that, when he came over to Chicago and then kind of fizzled out a little bit. Now he's going to the Kings. They're going to get Harrison Barnes back, which really shows you that the Bulls are kind of already waving that flag.