 So the real thing is we've got a secular decline, a secular stagnation in the U.S., and we need a radical shift in incentives to really jolt us out of that and get things going. And that's where I think we are. I don't like to think of it as being a soft landing, hard landing, et cetera. This is not a normal cyclical problem. This is a secular problem we're facing. In the 50 prior years,