 the human connection is the part that's really fun. And I think that most Green Berets excel at. Our training pipeline has a lot of that in it. And I think they select people that have a knack for this. I also will say at the time that I was doing this from the conventional army infantry, even the conventional infantry from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, most infantry were conducting KLEs, key leader engagements. So talking to various police and military forces,