 Basically, an Obama-era holdover and has been in his inner circle all the way through his presidency. She was the architect of a lot of his administration's strategy. And her connection with Obama, Obama's decision that the party needed to move on from Biden, who knows at what point she was sort of X'd out of that circle. But at the end, it came down to just the three people in that room, Reschetti, Donilon, and the president.