 People either like him a lot or hate him a lot, and there's very few people that are persuadable. And so what I don't know is like he definitely had a moment he understands like Reagan did. Like Reagan understood that he was at the center of a stage. Like Reagan was an actor, 50 movies or so, and his two best scenes and his two best movies were hospital-like deathbed scenes, right? So Reagan understood intuitively that key moment in that operating room, what he had to say, right?