 obsessed with gradual change. And actually, what we need to deal with these crises are much more rapid and transformative change. So out of that frustration, I thought, I'm going to look into history and see, when is it exactly that governments have taken more rapid and radical action? What kind of situations does that happen in? And actually, I found that, of course, there's situations that we know about, like wars or pandemics, when governments do step up and kickstart themselves into bigger changes. But actually,