 the average outsider to be much more aggressive and much more violent than they really are. Because who do we see? We see folks who are really loud on social media or out in the streets or people in leadership. And those folks often tend to be relatively extreme. And then third, I think that when we have the space, the safety and the bravery to engage in conversations, it's important to not start with facts and judgments, but to start with our stories.