 what happened on the conversation. It's never going to be straightforward. It's never going to be linear. You've got to figure out. You're playing poker here, right? You've got to figure out what hand he has, right? You've got to figure out if he's going to spray the pot. You've got to figure out if he's going all in. You've got to know what the market is. They acted like they had no idea Philly was involved. I mean, they're sitting there saying seven and a half. Who's going to pay them? They're just lying to themselves. I think it's a bad look for the Giants, and I think that they should have been more proactive on it.