 And both of these guys, Harbaugh, McVay, they all have similar win percentage. So for me, I think Sean Payton's a top-five coach, and that's why I wanted to put him on the outside looking in, because I think he deserves it as well, even though there's this momentum that he's not. And a lot of it is attributed to, well, is Bo Nix a good player? Well, Sean thinks he is, so are we sure he's right? Look, the rebuilding process in Denver is going to take some time, and I think you need that. And I think Sean McVay,