 At the same time, it's, you know, sports, if you're a sports fan, you know, sports is slow to change. Sports loves tradition. Sports loves, like, you know, the history. They love kind of this is how we do it. You know, this is the way. So I don't know. Yeah, some days I'm hopeful and some days I'm not, which I think is probably true of many people on many topics. A big thanks to science journalist and host of Tested, Rose Eveleth, for taking some time to join me on The Green this week. Really enjoyed that conversation.