 He says half my income goes to Pops. He talks to his financial guy about which account they ought to be paying for Pops' home repairs. Then, of course, 10 percent set aside for the big guy. Tony Bobulinski described who the big guy was. Devin Archer's testimony that in spite of Joe Biden saying he never once spoke to his son, his brother or anybody about their foreign business deals was was on the phone 20 plus times during these business meetings and meeting meetings.