 There was this emotional thing that a lot of people see. He puts on this really avuncular, you know, sweet old guy, kindly man with the sparkly blue eyes and the grin and the humor sort of persona. And people think, oh, shucks, he's so sweet. And so they kind of want to like him. And he's been around forever. So they think, well, you know, we like Joe Biden. There are those people. They're taken in. Media people should know a little bit more than that.