 maybe even some of the Biden campaign, that his interview with George Stephanopoulos and then the campaign trip to Wisconsin were going to be really key for him after what was a very bad debate. Now, he already had gone to, I think, North Carolina the weekend after the debate, the weekend right after. So it's not as if he hadn't already been out. But they were saying that, well, the next couple of campaign stops and the interview, that they're going to be really crucial for him to try to bounce back. And I said, well, wait a minute now.