 do see some economic benefit from them. And so the brown that we're seeing is that currently a lot of the photo tourism revenue is generated in Kenya, but you're not seeing that same significance of photo tourism on the Tanzanian side. They're actually trophy hunting as a bigger role in that local area for generating revenue, for enabling children to go to school, for enabling people to get jobs. And that's where it gets very interesting about whose voices you listen to here. Amy, have you ever seen any of these super taskers up close?