 you know, the way the world works. Um, you think it works one way and then you do some research and you realize that when you scratch the surface, there's so much more going on beneath the surface reality than you think. And so I would never have had that experience, George, if I'd known what I know now when I was at James. So, you know, it takes you on a journey. I mean, all of this stuff takes you, I mean, one on a journey, um,