 And for a long time, the powerful female voice in Mr. Vance's life was his grandmother, whom he called Mama. Now, he said on a podcast, it's Usha. 302-529-1017. We'll get into more of this. No, we don't know why. What? But more Rick Jensen is coming up on 101.7 FM, 1150 AM, WTEL. And streaming live to your smartphone and mobile device.