 if you can believe that. And I think... And that's what's concerning. And more so, they were talking about NATO. Let's talk about that, if we could, for a quick second. And the conflicts are going on over there in the Middle East, as well as, of course, between Russia and Ukraine and other areas around the world. But they were concerned about Trump getting back in the office, more so for two reasons. Number one, the unpredictability of President Trump.