 beat Donald Trump. That is the Joe Biden, the President Biden, that his aides want to show up. And a lot of Democrats, so far at least, have not been convinced. So they're going to want to see confident answers to questions. They're going to want to see a president who is not the same president who showed up in the debate, who appeared to lose his train of thought at several times, whose answers were somewhat confusing. But then in the ABC interview, Sean, he said when asked if he watched the debate, I don't think I did.