 for or against it to 60, well, one minute, 60 seconds, and they want you to identify who you are and what organization you're with. So if you've done that, that takes 20. You get 40 seconds to talk about something that is this important. It may not be important today, but it's important if you look long range for what happened. It's the things that's happened in Dover over my time being there in the last 16 years that I thought would never be an issue that I'm dealing with.