 Darren, that was really the world's introduction to Darren Waller. Very few people knew him when he was with Baltimore and got cut from the Ravens because of his substance abuse issues. But it was hard knocks when it was following the Raiders. And that was Darren Waller's reintroduction, if you will. And then, sure enough, for a few years, he was one of the better receiving tight ends in the game. And now, I mean...