 and regular people, J.D. Vance could really help Trump with that rust belt, with the blue wall. I can definitely see that. I can definitely see that as happening. But something else I thought was interesting, because I will admit, I didn't know a whole lot about J.D. Vance. I hadn't done a whole lot of research. And I keep quoting this correspondent from the Washington Post whose name is Ramesh Panuru.