 backing out um there has been some disagreement from people i've talked to on whether they think harris has a better shot than biden would have at beating trump in arizona anyway all right sylvia you're in louisville which is a blue little spot in a red sea there in kentucky kamala harris is not going to flip kentucky there's no scenario where that happens but you're from a red state with a democratic governor as i mentioned and he's in the conversation what are you hearing