 maybe won or lost some which is abortion rights uh you know and they said this is why i think what she did after a couple of interviews after the debate people i was sitting on the set with a bunch of other msnb nbc anchors and we were like everybody was like that was great it's like yeah yeah that's what she's doing out in the country and nobody about abortion around the country that's what she's doing what a leader what does the vice president have to do with abortion nothing