 parents abused them or their parents neglected them or hurt their feelings, but they rose above that. And I'll say, how did you rise above that? And people are surprised. They're not used to thinking of themselves in a positive way, but we have to build ourselves up in life. That's how you battle depression. That's how you battle low self-esteem and all the things that you're hiring a therapist or psychologist or that kind of person to help you with. So