 or before they, you know, before he... Yeah, I mean, he said before he joined the band, or, you know, maybe right at the beginning of their humble roots. Of course, the Stones from England, or most of them were, or most of them are. And I said, whoa. And he said, yeah, I, you know, I knew Robert Wood, and then he's got to know the rest of the band. I mean, enough. And then he said...