 You know, maybe nine and eight if everything went right for them. And that's where I kind of I feel somewhat disappointed because I do think that this team is going to be potentially very solid. And maybe that manifests itself, Mike, in an ATS standpoint as we move forward throughout the year, especially to get off to a little bit of a rough start. But even in week one, market moved in their favor. Yeah, that's the tough part, too.