 and quite possibly by use of physical force. I don't deny that there are forces trying to work against him. Whether that's what happened Saturday or not, I'm not coming on and saying I know that because I don't, and neither do you. We don't have the facts. Now, will we get the facts? Sadly, I don't know that we ever will have the full truth. That's fair. That is totally fair to be skeptical on it.