 There were very different journeys. There were people who had PhDs that had ended up in hate groups. There were people who had been homeless who ended up in hate groups. So very, very different experiences. But if I had to distill it down to one common thread, I think for me it came down to every single person I have met with throughout my career who has been involved in an extremist movement. And by the way, this is not just about domestic terrorism, neo-Nazis, far-right groups, but it's also about Salafi jihadism and other forms of extremism.