 I thought it was bad and at times very hard to watch. And in fairness to Biden, I don't think that that interview could have solved the political problem that stemmed from the debate. It could have stopped the bleeding. For me, it made me more concerned. The debate wasn't just a bad night. We all saw it. He was behind before the debate and now he's still behind by more. What are you going to do to win over voters who were undecided between Biden and Trump when you have that message with George Stephanopoulos?