 Because I'm just I was young. I didn't have the entire context and all that. But I remember going up with the map that lit up and then explaining the war. And I remember some of that, even though that was back in, again, around 90, 91, 92 at the latest, I think. And we were talking over 30 years ago. And I do have some remembrances of that and many of the trips he took me on.