 Heron, or indulgence, you know. And I was like, damn, you know, for me, is it going to be the needle, or is it going to be this? And I hate needles. So I said, I think I better start reading. So I learned about Paramahansa Yogananda, and then my first wife, Deborah, we came to New York, and we went guru shopping in New York, right? And the main one that we knew