 When they're thinking about elephants which are endangered, they're endangered because largely of poaching, so illegal hunting. And this is not that kind of hunting. This is legal, regulated, limited hunting, just as happens in the US and the UK and other places. So Tanzania is another country that uses trophy hunting as a big part of its wildlife management. Kenya doesn't use it, at least of terrestrial animals. But because they've got this difference in policy, it's led to a conflict now about the fact that Tanzania, on one side of the shared elephant population,