 Where it gets tricky is when we start having conversations about, well, China is subsidizing certain industries, and they're overproducing, and they're flooding the markets, and that's bad for our businesses here. And I'm not arguing that point. They do that. They subsidize many industries in their country to their detriment, quite frankly, because we all see what's going on in China right now. I've got a story on it we'll get to a little bit later. But...