 And I think they have been just duking it out with the likes of Jim Biden, Hunter Biden, Jill Biden. And they haven't been getting anywhere because those three have been digging in their heels. So they've decided, OK, we've got to push. We've got to play hardball. We're going to set up a debate. We're going to make it 9 p.m. We're going to make it so you can't bring any notes in.