 And this is a guy who understands what it's like to be a regular person. J.D. Vance grew up as a regular person. And at 39, I think that generationally, you have much more of an openness. I think we see this all the time. We hear this. I mean, just the other day, one of our callers, Will, who is a black male, called in, and he was talking about what he sees as