 in preventing the spread of HIV for decades to come. And my guest today is Andrew Green, who's a global health journalist based in Berlin. Andrew, as someone who covers this area as well, do you find there's this mixture of steps forward and steps back when it comes to global health? Oh, definitely. And I think at this point, in the midst of what people are calling a poly crisis, there's real concern that we're taking a big step back. I mean, there was massive funding injections in the global health space during COVID, but those really seem to be disappearing at the moment.