 Well, it's chaotic, is what we know about that moment. On the video, you hear the Secret Service people telling him the shooter is down. You hear him then, like... And I get this, people in shot. He says, like, three or four times, ''I need my shoes, I need my shoes.'' Because, obviously, he's lost his shoes in the sort of kerfuffle of being put on the ground and being dragged along. And so they're kind of fighting him slightly to get him off, but he's wanting his shoes...