 But he's trying because he doesn't want to be upstaged by Stephanopoulos. And he knows all the rest of the media are saying Biden has got to go. So he's trying to be as hard as he can. And here was another one. This is the one where he's asking him a couple of things. But one is about the head of the Secret Service. Right. And we know her name is Kimberly Cheadle. We know this. Right.