 pull out on a call ahead of the convention and so i guess the same thing could the same thing could happen but man that would be some unbelievably ugly dog fight i think it has to come about biden says he's out uh and then you know there's some little what jim clyburn talked about a mini mini uh primary although i don't think i think it'd be very mini because he's already come out for kamala harris but i think most people would agree