 So this group of chemicals that were banned before I was born, I now have inside me and the future generations of our children will have inside them as well. There were, I just, I feel like now that I've got you, I get to sort of go all fangirl and share my favourite moment from the podcast, can I? Yes, sure, yeah. So it's a moment where it's sort of almost Dantean because you're in this boggy field and there's this figure that's sort of,