 He's still like a CEO coach, and that defense has been absolutely atrocious, can't stop anybody. The offense is always going to be pretty darn good, no matter who they have at quarterback, even with Drake May now going to the NFL. But the defense is terrible. That's why they bring in Jeff Collins. That's the third defensive coordinator, by the way, that they've had in three years at North Carolina. So I'm a little bit down there.