 He could just take it out and pay the tax on it. Yeah, right. I think that's what I would do. I don't even think you have to convert because they've got so much money and there's no kids. So, I mean, just take the money out, pay the tax it's due, and add it to your brokerage account. That's what I would do. Good idea, Mark. Brilliant. Brilliant. I mean, either way, it's ordinary income. Yeah. I mean, you're going to pay the tax and you don't need to put it in. You don't have to have a Roth. I mean, it's better tax-wise, but...