 And they stood up and they walked out of the talks. And then the next day they came back. He had laid it out clear from the very first day, and they did reach a deal. I saw, too, what we would call facilitators, countries, persons, organizations who would simply do their best to try to get the warring sides to the table. And then you have countries who can make a difference, who have great wealth or great power. For example, many years ago,