 or that this is what we wanted to do. I think in the back of all of our heads, when we were learning our instruments when we were kids, it was always kind of that pipe dream that you'd love to do it, but would you ever get the chance to? And yeah, it took a long time to figure out what sound we wanted or what kind of music we wanted to make, what we wanted it to mean. And I think we're just lucky that we found each other when we did and were able to figure that out. Obviously, there was a lot of failed projects or other projects and lots of solo stuff and genres that we explored, but...