 founders and and those that ratified you know our founding documents and i'm sorry even the ones that influence it like the magna carta so it was a fascinating time in history where there was this true enlightenment right people were digging in their bibles and i'm seeing some more of that i know a lot of young people in their twenties and younger that are regularly reading their bibles and and making a push towards abstinence and and not because they're hyper religious these people in the church