 seem to happen this year justin herbert and a lot of people think hey you rate him too high and admitted admittedly i'm kind of a justin herbert stand and defender even though his teams have never won anything but that's not i mean that's a little bit of a silly argument because that's not all on him and he's never had good coaching dave he never had it at oregon he's not had it in in san diego and now los angeles now i think he finally has it he has a good culture builder with jim harbaugh he's got a quarterback