 Some people have a vested interest in stamping out empathy so they can achieve their political goals. So how can we rebuild empathy? Jamil Zaki is a psychologist at Stanford who's devoted his career to studying empathy. He's not an expert on Middle Eastern politics, but he is on the intersection between politics and empathy. Robin Young spoke with him in November and asked why people who consider themselves empathic can't always muster empathy for those they consider other.