 About six and a half times. I hope so. But the fantasy started to disappear very quickly. And again, like for listeners at home, it's a beautiful book. There are no real spoilers here, but it's a journey, right? It's a journey of sort of going to a place you think you know, and then really finding you don't know much about it, but how do you learn about it? And so what I want to ask you, Steve, which you do write about, but I want to get into more detail and hear you talk about.