 1949, WDEL actually had a TV station, Channel 7 WDEL-TV. They moved that to Channel 12, and the Steinman family sold Channel 12 back in 1955, eventually became WHYY-TV, the PBS station for Philadelphia, but still licensed in Wilmington. All right. Hey, Joe, thanks very much. Appreciate it. He'll be back tomorrow. Joe Hummel, talking pop culture here on WDEL.