 so I knew how to make the gingerbread, but I did not know how to make the sauce. And so I called Debra and she said, let me call mama. So she got the recipe from ain't low or what ain't low remembered. And then she started telling it to me and I was like, no, no, no. She gave me the ingredients. I said, don't tell me. I want to want to be able to experience it myself. And so I did. And,