 And he is an interesting guy. He's one of these multitaskers. He's a culinary instructor. He's a philanthropist. He's a restaurant GM. He's one of the people that helps run Fager's Island, which is a major episode down in Ocean City. One of our fine advertisers here, Fager's Island. That's one of the reasons why I said it. You know how long I've been in radio. Oh, yeah.