 or a celebrity, a singer that hears the roar of the crowd and gets more and more pumped up. He's going to be in, and you've been in it, I've been in it lots of times, these newsrooms, these places where debates take place without audiences are pretty sterile. You've got big desks, and on TV it may look like a mansion, may look like the size of four or five conference rooms, but these are pretty small studios that