 Then again, I'm not usually around Trinidad that often. You've been inside Trinidad's store. You may not remember it. 4425744. Murphy's markets are available for you. 25 is going for 20. And these are good across the board in all their various departments. So if you want to try making your own Los Bagels. Don't know why you'd want to. Let somebody else take care of it for you. They are available.