 I think Dr. Umar is very interesting. And this is why I say that. I think that his whole point of all of this is like keeping everybody separate is that he's more concerned with the wealth gap between black and white people. And I've heard him speak on this before. I think his thing is like you're putting money back in white people's pockets and they've taken so much from us. And that's always been, I feel like, the basis of his argument when it comes to mixing money.