 likeability does not always mean you have an impact. However, respect for what you do, respect for what you know, respect for how you do your work has a huge correlation with overall effectiveness. So therefore, one of the biggest things that capable and impactful school leaders have to do is be willing to move from what I call safe spaces to brave spaces. And I unpack this a lot in my book where I talk about safe spaces, oftentimes are these spaces that are really situated around