 They thought that Biden and Biden's people thought he could razzle, frazzle, insult Trump and Trump would blow up. Never happened. Trump's too smart. Trump's been through this so many times. He's debated many, many times. And I might add all the talk about how the CNN moderators were going to make a three to one. Fact is, Jake Tapper and Dana Bash did a very good professional job. Very good.