 of the civil rights movement and the progress that we have made. And that's part of how we have to calculate what is at stake in this election cycle. Right. Well, I think that that is exactly right. When we think about what the stakes are. More with our guest, Judith Brown-Dianis, when we come forward on KBLA Talk 1580. More of the Black Pack with Adrienne Sharpshire on KBLA Talk 1580 when we come forward.