 Let's get back to more of this rich dialogue with Tavis Smiley. Education is very important to me because if you don't have education, you'll never, you won't succeed. And Pam, for you, do you have other memories of her just sort of like in bigger, small ways, communicating to you guys that education was important? Verbalizing it and saying, you know, you have to do well in school. You have to study again, you know, like she said, reading to us, uh,