 humorous that way I guess yeah let me ask you about the difference in the experience at the minor league level for the player that's coming up compared to the player that maybe has been in the major leagues but it's at the end of his career but just wants to hold on to playing baseball yeah those are hard ones because the one on his way up you know there's all this hope there's this expectation and every game you know could be the one play really well you're going to go up and