 And the reality is that's not true. Shay just helped me. She reminded me that I actually met her on the phone first by way of a friend named Michael Williams. And Michael has the gift of connecting people, right? So when he meets two people who have really good energy or seem like they align and have synergy, he will connect them. And that's what he did with Shay and I. We talked on the phone. And then as Shay was reminding me,