 who is a former president of the National Association of Black Journalists. He's a political analyst as well. So Jared and Tavis will be doing duty with me in the second hour of Ariba Martin in real time tomorrow. And then at 6 p.m., we are going to bring you the debates. Without interruptions, you'll be able to stay tuned in to KBLA Talk 1580 to hear the debates that will be from 6 to 9 p.m.