 Like 15 years ago, right? Yeah, like 15 years ago. Is it hard to believe that a white guy that went to school in North Carolina would say n***a? Is it hard to believe it? No, not at all. Well, what about Gary Owens? Didn't he go to Kentucky? Even worse. Did he go to Kentucky or did he go to Duke? No, he went to Duke. Here's what I think. I saw Gary's piece. I think that...