 Who do you trust to get at the truth? Tavis Smiley. That's who. The conversation continues right now. He does indeed for the next four minutes. I could do hours with Glenn Lauer. I got four minutes left. Glenn, I was saying a moment ago that the argument that you made to me, plausible, not persuasive. I accept your critique of neoliberalism. No question about that. I accept that critique and I can go as hard or harder than you on a neoliberal critique. I just don't think the answer is a party that ignores us and pushes an agenda that