 And I remember several times during the 2020 debates, I remember thinking, Trump, just shut up. He's frozen. He's babbling. And you're talking over him, babbling. Stop. Who is the famous warrior who said, when your enemy is making a mistake, was that Sun Tzu, who said, when your enemy is making a mistake, don't interrupt him? That's right. And that happened several times. And were there two debates last time? That happened several times where Biden was just,