 they're always still hopeful that they'll still get back up there, and that's why they're still out there. But it's difficult. Most of the guys then in the minors are younger than them, so they'll get feeling kind of resentful a little. It's hard. It's really hard, I think, to stay positive when you've been up and now you're back down below, almost like if you're a kid and you failed a grade or something. I mean, it's a kind of demotion, and as much as