 No, I get it. I get it. I get it. The Obamas, I mentioned earlier. You may or may not recall this or know this, but when the Obamas came into office as president and first lady, they had huge student loan debt from all those years at Occidental and Columbia and Harvard for him, Princeton and Harvard for her, making them the first couple in the White House, I believe, to ever become president of the United States still carrying student loan debt.