 quantify these things and to point to descendants today who we can connect to this program. Complicates in what way? You said that's an interesting word. You hope it complicates in what way? I mean, I think there's a lot of disagreement about our past and the extent to which it's relevant today and how much of it we need to reckon with now. So I just hope that people on both sides of that conversation gain a little more understanding of the other by learning more about this history and by hearing the