 talk and share about good training and heritages and doing kind of a curating of these conversations. So, so glad that you're seeing and helping us to see that there is hope. There's hope. You know, but as a historian, I'd love to talk to you about what kinds of things did help us to get here in your mind as you teach and you've been sharing this with students. What were the kind of, you know, standard things? I know we got, we talk about new standards too, but what were the standard things that kept your people in this music so...