 That's my way of looking at it. You were a player during one particular era and a manager during another, and I'm wondering how you felt about pitch count because when you played, you know as well as I do, there were a lot of pitchers that if you came out to the mound and tried to take the ball out of their hand, they would probably kick the manager in the rear end. But nowadays, when you managed it with specialization, you had the setup guy, the middle reliever, and everything. How do you feel about pitch counts? I don't particularly like it.