 helping to make you the most knowledgeable person in your circle of friends. This is Tavis Smiley. This is Tavis Smiley in conversation with Dr. Tisa. Silver Kennedy, who is breaking financial wellness advocate, is she. And she's breaking down all the details about President Joe Biden's student debt relief plan and program, which keeps running into legal walls in certain courts. And yet he's pressing forward, trying to bring as much debt relief as he can to students all across this country. Many of them, of course,