 We got to remember this is, you know, this was the president's team wanted this debate, right? Took the gauntlet from Trump, negotiated those rules, right? To your point, I think Jake and Dana Bash had like a fairly good debate in terms of not, and certainly they did not become the story, which we see all the time with moderators. But again, you know, we're going to see in the coming days just the reaction to last night. All right, so give it to me. Kevin Walling's in studio, plain English.