 Um, I can't quite remember who did I, I know she, she wouldn't let me meet her son for a long time. Okay. She was like, Oh no, you can't, he's not ready yet. He's not ready to go through this. Okay. But her daughters had already met me. Right. Okay. So it was just like maybe, maybe a month or so later that they actually got an opportunity to see me again. Okay. Outside of work. But, uh, it was a long time for, before Shaq got to see me, probably what, uh,