 cost of the election by 10,000 to 15,000 votes. Right. That's right. I think that that is true in places all across the country where we look at urban centers and then forget that black folks also live in rural communities. I want to have a final question that I want to pose to you all when we come forward on the other side. And we will be back in conversation with Mondale and Quinton. This is KBLA Talk 1580.