 I take that back. So, you know, in high school, I experienced because I came in the community that was, and I want to write on this one at some point in time where these music programs in the public music, you know, in the public school were being headed by these black women who were exposing us to concert artists who were exposing us to all this music. So then I went to Virginia state and I, my freshman year, I met Billy Taylor and Dr. Undine Smith Moore.