 Hawks or the traditional Republican voices on foreign policy with his answers about Ukraine. It seemed like he was all too willing to, not by, you know, he was criticizing the spending on behalf of Ukraine, which, by the way, Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, championed in recent months. So he seemed pretty weak, Trump did, on the issue of Ukraine. Though, again, Biden didn't have the clear rebuttal that you would expect from the sitting president to really challenge Trump on one of those vulnerabilities.