 It is a fascinating life. But you also heard Glenn Lowry say a moment ago that he got into Northwestern basically on an affirmative action program. How then this Negro turned into a black conservative pushing back against affirmative action, I will never know. We'll talk about that part when we come forward with Glenn Lowry on Tavis Smiley. A safe place to go loud. A great place for progressive politics. KBLA Talk 1580.