 Well, let's address the theory that he's operating on first, okay? And then let me just tell you, I don't think we can convince this guy. I don't think he has any desire to be convinced. I think he's already made his mind up. But I will answer your question anyway, okay? In other words, I don't think this is going to work, but I'll tell you. So what his premise is, is that if you can borrow money...