 until later than most presidents did. But didn't they say that Trump liked to sleep until noon and he never had a meeting before? I mean, those are things I've heard. I have no idea if they're true. Because I don't know that any of that matters, is why I didn't pay attention to it when they said it about Trump. I've heard it. I guess the question that I'm asking, that maybe Mr. Woodcock was alluding to, is...