 But now you have the job, so we should be making headway. I mean, if you're both bringing in $5,000 a month, I mean, that's very good. So there's no need to play the whack-a-mole debt game by using more debt to pay off the other debt so we can stay in debt. And so the goal here is how do we use your future income to knock out this debt? And so what's your minimum payment on card one?