 What would you say to other spouses who, right now, their spouse is eating up the podcast, they're on YouTube, they're listening on radio, they're just talking about it all the time. Very similar situation that you were in. Because I think you have a unique perspective here. What is the key when you're the reluctant spouse and you've got one that's on fire? You just have to be patient with it. Suffer along through the process. I mean...