 I think I call this dude's bluff. I think he's a bully. I think he's a bully who's been somewhat successful. We see this all the time in small business, and they're scared to deal with him because they perceive value in him. And I think he's a bully. And if that's true, I wouldn't go above his head because of that very reason. I'd just look at him and go, hey, man, all due respect,