 Well, I guess we were kind of looking at things and talking about what life would look like whenever we were married. And finances came up, and I've always known about the Dave Ramsey Show, and I've listened to it with my dad since I was probably five years old. And we were kind of talking about it, and I said, well, here's a plan. And whatever plan we decide to do, we need to stick with. And I convinced her to try the Ramsey way, and then we got to it and paid it off. Yeah.