 and many of them have interviewed him many of them have seen him up close and personal they've seen him at press conferences they knew exactly what he was like but all of a sudden the night of the debate all at once everybody and every tv network said joe biden's got to go oh my god this disaster it's like it was a written script they used that debate to get rid of joe biden they knew they were going to do it and they knew they would go to chicago and i believe in chicago they know