 certain movements and structures. And like that all comes down almost through a ceremonial magic, you know, where everything has got a specific action that happened. That, that, that's where I see the differences between the two. Now you said you met a long time ago, Anton LaVey. Wasn't he a Satanist? Yeah. Well, he claims to be a Satanist, but remember what a Satanist is in the church of Satan.