 If you've got a very smart individual person that can't energize thousands as a minimum 10 to 15 that work for them, you don't have a leader. And so you're always looking to people who relish other people's success, who can see them grow and get excited by it, who like to see their people promoted, not who hoard their people. All these characteristics about growth. I mean, the exciting thing for me was we, our stock was doing very well in the 90s and