 It was horrible. All my life I had been known for 20 years, I had been known as a growth person. Right. Then I take over this organization that's filled, filled with a huge, fat bureaucracy. And I was really challenged by the board and my predecessor to make the company competitive. That was my challenge. And I took on that challenge, and we had to sell off businesses that weren't first or second in their market. We couldn't fix them.