 in the course of their career, including for the first time, a long-form interview originally published in We Magazine. By any other name, Bruce Dern, a memoir available University Press of Kentucky, as well as Amazon.com. We talked a little bit about your first publishing credit together. How did you first meet? And I'm sure this is the story you've told together many times. I'll say Bob's start, and then Chris, you jump in as... I'll start with the seventh grade. Really? How's that? Okay.