 with fair moderators we've been doing this for you know a hundred years as far as debates going you know this is this is going to make the you know the lincoln douglas debates the kennedy nixon debates look like child's play and there's nobody else in the room but cameras they're cutting mics off this is where we are in america today we can't even have a discussion ladies and gentlemen if you don't think this is going to end bad you're out of your mind when two presidential candidates can't have to have mics cut