 but I always liked him because he proved himself to be a good actor and a very versatile actor. And what's fun watching him in Ozark, I didn't realize he was an accomplished director as well. So he's a very talented man, and you fought for him. Well, I... I have to explain this. This is The Joel Show. Take your time. Jason was someone that everybody at NBC liked. I mean, I didn't have to fight very hard. And, um...