 kind of structure the debate in a way that was disadvantageous to Donald Trump. And everybody kind of wondered at the time, why did he agree to this so quickly? Why did he not push back on some of the rules? Because I think that, looking back on it now, I think that's what they wanted him to do. They put this format out there, the timing and everything like that, and they wanted Donald Trump to fight him. And instead, he called their bluff. He said, I'll take any time, any place, whatever rules, any moderator you want, I will do the job. And man...