 before anything happens to them, I can't explain the dynamic, but, you know, we still text. We do a lot of midnight texting because he never goes to sleep. Joel Thurm is on the line with us. Joel Thurm, legendary casting director. Joel's memoir, Sex, Drugs, and Pilots, season available through our friends at Bear Manor Media, as well as Amazon.com, where books are sold online. We'll talk some more with Joel on the other side of the break.