 But they'll call him a convicted felon. They'll call him an insurrectionist, a threat to democracy who wants retribution. They'll call him a radical. They'll call him unhinged. They'll call him everything. And I think that it won't matter to Donald Trump. I spent, what, I guess an hour and 10 minutes interviewing him two weeks ago. And we went from topic to topic to topic, high energy, dialed in, well-informed, ready to go.