 And I was looking that up this morning. That's what he's referencing back to. And when you think about this statement, their worm dieth not, I could give you some of my opinions. I'm going to leave that alone. But it is a place of no escape. Part of the curse of sin that we're under is death. And it is a place where heaven is a place of everlasting life. Hell is a place of everlasting death.