 And, uh, he was, um, he befriended me. He works for, cause he was a bus boy and he did crummy little jobs like that. And, um, I had, uh, I'm, uh, I don't remember specifically, but I always loved baseball and I probably had a baseball cap on and he talked to me about baseball and he was 16 and I was, uh, like I said, I was eight or nine, something like that. So, uh,