 uh... to him but but one of the things that i think it is really important to understand about him is that you know as as a young father who is navigating this current moment with young kids i will just say that it creates different pressures and different anxieties about the world that that we see around us uh... that i think it definitely comes through if you're aware of them uh... in the way that he talks about it and that means that you know things like the the battles that are currently waging within