 And her name was Meredith. Well, he would go to special parties with her as her date. He came back from one of Michelle Obama's birthday parties. And I said, how was it? You know, there's all these luminaries there. He said, oh, it was really cool. I met Paul McCartney. And then he said, and I didn't ask him to say this. He just volunteered to say it was also fake, Mike. And I was like, what do you mean? He goes, it was also fake. I go, what do you mean? It's a corporate marriage? He goes, yeah. So this is 2011 when I first started as a White House sonographer for Joe Biden.