 I've had a chance to throw it a decent amount so far this year and it gets down pretty good. It's got a big bill on it on eight pound fluorocarbon. You can get that thing 10 to 12 foot. You know, I usually throw a jerk bait on about 10 and you can still get it on close to 10 feet with that. And that's a big deal. Um, in this day and age with forward facing to those deeper jerk baits play even more. And, you know, in small mouth country as well, I love to throw a deep jerk bait. Um,