 where I gave up my tuba and didn't play at all. And I like to say it kind of pulled the music saved me. It gave me purpose. And it, it was just something I didn't know. I wasn't raised in it, obviously, but, uh, Benny found me playing with panorama jazz band and kind of recruited me. And I was before, you know what, I was subbing with the band with him and uncle Lionel, all the fellas and late uncle, late uncle Lionel. And, um,