 makes him one of the most relatable senators and said he's going to appeal to people who feel like they've been abandoned and independent. Do you think that's possible? Do you think that J.D. Vance can, even if he's MAGA, can appeal to independence? Well, look, we're seeing that MAGA can be a very politically sellable message in polls showing Trump leading Biden and showing that a lot of independents are actually moving away from the current White House, current president.