 And they say, what are they doing for us again? Well, they're not really doing the tax. They talk about tax, but they don't do it. What are they doing for the, obviously, well, they talk about legal, but they don't really do it. So walking them through those different pieces is a huge part of our process because it's the education of understanding, is it really worth paying $20,000 a year for someone to call me on my birthday?