 one way to one way to use it and the people use this terminology they say we're actually spiritual beings having a physical experience i mean my my uh co-author uh tiller used to use that term or physical experience you know beings having a physical experience well you know there's a little truth to that if you realize we're hyper you know hyper bit cloud beings you know and uh so maybe we're more more spiritual and more uh you know we're all having an experience