 Well, I was a fan, like I said, from the time I was 10 years old. Of course, I went the stick and ball route and the sports medicine and the strength and conditioning. But when I started my own company, Athletic Training Concepts, I got the chance to work with a race car driver by the name of Ernie Irvin. I became his personal trainer, his strength coach, and his athletic trainer. And that's how I got into racing.