 I think for me, the first time, of course, I grew up singing in church, but the first time it felt professional was when my choir did the McDonald Gospel Fest. It was 1990. I just got out of high school. And how we had to prepare and go through the semifinals and stand before judges and do all these things. And when we finally won, I was leading one of the songs that we sang. It's somewhere out there in video land. Okay.