 And I've got to tell you something. I've often said when it comes to something that you're doing here, it's very difficult. Like in the entertainment business, I would like to go up and emcee a performance vis-à-vis being the judge. In this particular case, it's got to be very difficult because you know, because of your experience, how tough it is, as you mentioned, to peel away the personal aspect of it and get to the nuts and bolts. Yeah. In fact, there's a case of a brother and sister who,