 who I had on this show many, many years ago. And I tell this story because I told Rudy, because I think either Barney Adams or Dave Pelz told me this, if you want to play more golf, do not get involved in the golf industry. Rudy did not believe me, and I had really good sources, and he ended up selling and played a lot less golf. Anyway, you laughed because you've obviously heard the name Rudy Slicker.