 teaching location. He used to teach painting to young kids, young people, for you charge them like $5 an hour or something, maybe not even that back then. And he had an easel set up. And one day he said to Lorraine, Lorraine, what are we going to do with all these photographs, all these things I got typed up and handwritten notes and all this, and open reel recordings that I have on all these people that we've helped investigate. We've got to do something with them. We've got all these