 He just came with his first two guys, and that was sort of it. And Jose Luis Ramirez never got to me. But I thought that he was a slow, slow left-hander. But he could crack, man. I mean, he could crack. He had 195, so he was a professional. But the bottom line is, at the end of the day, I thought he was just too slow. But the macho man, Hector Camacho, of course, that was his...