 uh teaching location he used to teach painting to young kids some people for you charging like five dollars an hour or something maybe not even that back then and he was an easel set up and one day he said to lorraine lorraine what are we going to do with all these photographs all these things i got typed up and handwritten notes and all this and and uh open real recordings that i have on all these people that we've helped investigate we got to do something with them we've got all these