 And he knows, as the American people do, that when you get knocked down, you get back up and you fight harder. That's Fox's Gerdahl Scott. Democracy 2024. A senator from Ohio speaking out after President Biden and former President Donald Trump got into a heated discussion about NATO during their debate, as you heard here on WHIO. President Biden said that the former president would withdraw the U.S. from NATO if he wins reelection and would also invite Russian President Vladimir Putin to, quote, just do what you want.