 A long time ago. I think I won a trip somewhere, like Lake Chelan, which is like our... Is that in Puget Sound? No, Lake Chelan is on the other side of the mountains. It's semi-trashy, semi-nice. It's actually our vineyard country, but it's like apples, cherries, that stuff. It's kind of rednecks. By the way, Andy's friend Nate is also with us, who's from the Seattle area, as is Andy. He's a school counselor, so he's not allowed to talk.