 And he goes, what are you doing? You know, so I would not do certain things to certain pitchers because I knew that they would not handle it and accept it the same way maybe somebody else would. So, you know, that's a great point because when you see a catcher go to the mound, and I'll be honest with you, I've never been a proponent of this number of trips to the mound because if my job as a catcher, and I think it goes to show you that the job of the catcher has