 Goldfather, he always liked the fact that he was Detroit. But Eddie Futch originally was from Detroit. Eddie Futch was probably the best trainer to ever come out of Detroit before Manny Stewart, of course. And Manny Stewart was another generation, per se. But Manny Futch trained Barry Gordy. And Barry Gordy had a professional record. I think he was like 13 and 2, something like that. 12 and 3.