 mid 40s with the Rangers on the treadmill going level 10 up and down the hills for an hour and 10 minutes the guy had thighs on him legs on him and pitching is all legs people don't realize it you have to thrust and power and drive and if you're if you've got your legs underneath you but Fred personally you know and I know they want to protect the kid I know they want him to pitch in the all-star game I let him go till he gives up the first base hit then get him out