 exile for Sinwar and some of his top deputies. The problem, Hugh, is at the time I thought, well, this is a very good track, they should really pursue this. I'm not so sure now, only because the more I've studied Sinwar, and I'm not an expert on Sinwar, but the more I've studied Sinwar, the more I've spoken to Israeli intelligence officials who have been following and tracking his career, the more I've talked to Israeli journalists who've been following his career,