 I know you played alongside Mike Webster in the early part of your career. Tell me about the first time you ever met him, what you saw in him as a football player. Well, you know, what I saw in Mike when I first met him, of course, I mean, he was a legend in Pittsburgh. And just a legendary team, the ownership group with the Rooney family and the Steelers and just the history and Chuck Knoll. You know, me and Joe Green at that time was the defensive line coach.