 Hear stories about the former president, how he reacts behind closed door. We saw it with our own eyes. But then when you get past the spirit of the moment, and I even see a Secret Service agent pick up that MAGA hat. And remember what that MAGA hat has been deemed by many on the other side as a threat to democracy, as anti-American. I mean, you can go down the list of the rhetoric that has been said about that.