 And we're back and joined by Jack Curry. You know him mostly of Two Under, but this guy is an entrepreneur. He's one of our industry insiders because he knows it so well. And he mentioned a company that I still have the golf clubs of. I'm talking about Tommy Armour. Now, I want to go back a little bit in time with Jack because he touched on that, working for Tommy Armour for a long time. But there was a guy named Rudy Slucker.