 Really, once Joe Biden's nomination is secured by this virtual roll call vote, there's no way Joe Biden gets out before becoming the official nominee because otherwise there's chaos. It's no guarantee it would be Kamala Harris. And you've got 1,400 black women in the Democratic Party saying it is either Joe or Kamala. There are no ifs, ands, or buts. You will not pick anybody else. And Kamala Harris is a terrible candidate. Kamala Harris could not make it to Iowa.