 Well, it was back in the day, and we're talking about the 1960s and 70s. You have to understand there was no CNN. No. There was nobody on the networks were doing anything before the nightly news at 6.30. So there was this huge gap between the Today Show and the nightly news. And in Washington, D.C., we came on with this two-hour show, a very newsy kind of a Today Show program that we did. And