 I mean, Ron, I hit fourth and caught in Cleveland. I hit eighth and caught in Oakland. I was happy as heck just to be on a world championship team. I didn't have an ego. I said, just let me catch because Charlie said, I want you to handle this pitching staff. I don't care what you do. We have enough offense. And they did. But it was the pitching that did the job by saying, give me whatever you're going to give me, and I'll take it from there. And that's special when you have three 20-game winners to be able to pitch as effectively as they did.