 If she said, well, it's just the way life is, you're screwed. No, no, no, no, no. She's been crying. She's been carrying the shame for years, trying to struggle, trying to get out of it without finding solutions. Okay. That's a different side because when you first said, you said you were mad and that, you know, so that's what I was trying to get at. He's mad at the credit card company for taking advantage of her. Yeah, I'm mad at the credit card company for being able to lend people more money than they make in a year. I got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, um...