 And they said, listen, you know, we're looking to expand our business now, and we understand that you're looking to stay in the business some way. Would you be interested in talking to us becoming vice president of sales? And I did. And I joined them, and gosh, when I joined them, we were doing about $6.5 million and rode the horse until 2012 to take it up to about $19.5 million, all with the help of John and JD and the factories and getting the relationships and building up