 We're not at that 101 stage of fighting and arguing. Is it real? Is it not real? We want the proof of it. What do you got? And you got to convince me. It's about the experiences themselves. And then what can we learn from those? And how do they match up with whatever someone else has said too, whether it's in the same genre or even different genres of the paranormal, putting those together. That's my thing. And I learn more and more that that's your thing too.