 I think a guy like Steve Ricchetti will be at a meeting with Joe Biden. He'll get the word and he'll pass it on to Zients. I think there's a cabal of senior advisors that have been running the country with Joe Biden, and they kind of interpret how he thinks. I mean, they've been with him so long. They can interpret what he wants. In an honest and free and fair election, do you really believe that Joe Biden could beat Donald Trump?