 gentleman this week I talked to who had lots of problems with his sweet gum trees. And he swore up and down that he had scale and talked about how he wanted to spray his sweet gum trees. And it was one of those situations where I couldn't make everything, make it work to go up to Springfield to go look at them. And so I invited him to send me some photographs. And lo and behold, after looking at the photographs, the first thing that I saw was his trees were wilting.