 Well, I know I'm never going to go against the Pirates doing their podcast with them, but I will tell you they're saving bullets. You've got to be able to save bullets. I mean, let's face it, as much as many people want to laugh, the Pirates got three guys there in a short series. Jones, Keller, and Skeens are dangerous with the back end of that bullpen. And you alluded to the Dodgers not having one guy that they actually can count other than Gavin Stone.