 Then he went anti-Trump, then he went very, very pro-Trump, and that's who he's been a lot for a long time, which is one of the reasons I was hoping he wouldn't be the choice, because I don't think we need more of that on the Trump ticket. A little balance. However, lately, I had seen him on a couple of shows where he was much more like the old J.D. Vance, and he sounded more like a guy who was very calm, understanding, Midwestern, but very smart, went to Harvard.