 And then to thrust a dagger in his back, there's nothing sweeter. In other words, you see within the collective, if you can betray or take somebody down, someone of importance, the more important, the more power they have, if you can betray them and take them down, then that adds to your standing within the collective. We saw that with Jimmy Carter and the Shaw of Iran. One day Jimmy's got his arm around the Shaw, the next day he's taking them down