 Well, Richard, I want you to know, if you said to me today that you were going to retire tomorrow, I'd still want to have you on the show the day after and the day after and the day after. So being on the road isn't a reason to stop talking about it. Thanks, Richard. Thank you, Ron. Always a pleasure, my friend. Thank you. Richard Sturbin has been our guest, and we're talking about Joe Bonzo, who we lost just last week. Not only a professional loss, but a personal loss. And there's more to come with Ron Segi today.