 And I've never forgotten it. I mean, he was very gracious. He had a towel around himself, sopping, wringing wet, doing that interview. When you look back on that Super Bowl, what was significant that you think about and never forget about Super Bowl IV? Oh, that we were 12 with 13-point underdogs, whatever that meant. And that whoever was thinking that didn't realize that we had played the Vikings in preseason either that same year or the year before. So we knew that personnel, and we also knew that