 where you have to kind of navigate through and you have to grow through those experiences. Otherwise, you get stagnant and you can never be who you want to be. And so as I was going through all of those different things and those different parts of the journey, I think one of the keys for me was to try to learn from all of them, try to take something from all of them, the people and the experiences, because ultimately I believed that I was going to have to use all of those things