 that about once a week he would get a phone call and say, it was given to go to here or go to there, and they would find a crate of guns, a crate of guns. There were left there by someone. And he would say, we all knew it was the feds that were doing it. That's what he said. I remember that very clearly. But, you know, of course, there was what they call plausible deniability, you know, like Hunter Biden.