 Well, there's no question about it. I knew Joe long before we were both members of the Oak Ridge Boys. You know, I actually sold men's clothing in a place in Philadelphia. Really? Called Gimble Brothers. And I remember Joe. W-I-N-T. He paid me to buy a shirt or some clothing item for me. But we mainly would talk. You know, we'd talk about singing. Singing together some days. We talked about music. And so we had a friendship that dated way, way, way back. So I've known him for a long, long time. There's no question about it.