 I think the average American, if they play this Vance running mate pick correctly, they look at someone who grew up poor and worked his way up to success. I think they look at someone who is connecting to the values of a lot of American voters in a way that the elite in Washington perhaps don't embrace. And I think they see someone who is more relatable as a young 39-year-old than all these almost 80-somethings on the national team.