 He's like, she stayed in way too long. She's like Kasich, stayed way too long. DeSantis got out, he lost, he got out, he understood. You can run, but he really hurt himself by staying in. And I pressed him on. I said, but don't you need her voters? He goes, no, I got them anyway. So that was some of my takeaway. Also, when NATO, he's not getting out of NATO, but he's going to demand they pay. They pay up. And that was pretty clear.