 and just trying to make a different life away from that rock and roll, you know? And it was such a gift of this man who mentored me, and his name was Irving Graybill, and he had the Post newspaper in the community where I grew up. And he mentored me and gave me a whole new life, you know, and that's where I got into writing, you know, because you have to do the captions, you have to do the stories and all that, and God gave me a gift.