 A lot of times we get people that are really wealthy and they don't really know what it's like to have really nothing or have to struggle to get what you want. And he understands, hey, not the best family, but he loves them. He understands the struggle of that. Ohio's Governor Mike DeWine also reacting to the former president selecting Senator Vance. He doesn't have a great deal of experience in politics. I think some people probably like that. But his life experiences are what I think are very important.