 It wasn't obscure. It was a pretty well-known podcast that usually focuses on... If it's not this show, it's obscure, okay? Yeah, right. But basically, they focus on, you know, the majority of mainstream automotive news kind of stuff, right? Yeah, yeah. But this is a little bit more obscure. They had somebody on who was an expert in mobility. And mobility basically is a, you know, a stock buzzword for autonomy. Right. Right? Like autonomous self-driving cars. And...