 He looked at me, he told me, he said to me, he said, well, thank you for being concerned. He said, but I can't give you five minutes. And I was a young kid, and I turned away, kind of dejected that he tell me right out, no, he can't do that. But then he came back and he said, but I can give you three minutes. And when he said that, I looked at him and I said, man, we on. So now when we used to take all these boxes from the trains,