 We learned Son Jarocho music at our community center called the Eastside Cafe. So we turned from like a Son Jarocho student group playing more and more over time and turned into a band. Ken and I, Son Jarocho bands came through and gave us workshops, you know, Los Cojolites. And they would sit there with us maybe for like two hours and just be like, you don't have the strum right. Just keep doing it, you know.