 People don't even know what it would mean to get out. They don't know what they need to do or how they need to build a life. So unsurprisingly, I think you see pretty low rates of social mobility from a lot of these areas, and that's certainly what I saw growing up. And I've explained Donald Trump's appeal as he's a tractor beam for people who are disappointed in this country, who are despairing in this country, something.