 the rise of Motown Records, boxing and this and that, and, of course, boxing in Detroit. And he gave a lot of credit as far as the resurrection of boxing in Detroit and Motown, of course, to Emmanuel Stewart, the great Cronk Jim Goldfather, no doubt about that. Of course, we mention him time and time again. We think he's the greatest thing that ever happened to sliced bread. The greatest thing that ever happened since sliced bread, I kid you not.