 I think other young ladies will say, all right, you know, if if she hated her granddad, she probably wouldn't be able to pull this off. That seemed very sincere. She seemed, you know, very sincere on what she was saying. And the story is resonated, I thought. So Ivanka tells the story that her and her dad was so tight he would call it during the day at school and she'd be called to the pay phone.