 Now, the fact of the matter is, in so-called lesbian groups, there are men who are suing to get access to lesbian dating groups. So if a so-called trans person wants to date a person who isn't conned into being trans, that's okay. That's not a fetish. The entire thing is a fetish. Now, you can hear that and say, okay, I get it. I get how far off we are, but I don't think people really do.