 This is the Motown groove. The reason I want to bring this up is that the man that started Motown Records, Barry Gordy, was a professional boxer, I kid you not. And the man that trained him, the one and the only, the godfather himself, we're talking about Eddie Futch. When Eddie told me about Barry Gordy, he goes, he couldn't punch, he couldn't punch. So he couldn't punch, but the bottom line is Barry Gordy, yes, was a professional boxer at one point in time. Born November 28th, 1929.