 The 25th Amendment, you'd have to have two-thirds of the bodies say he needs to go. You're not going to get that. So it's not going to work. Joe Biden could force his way in and stay in. You've got to convince him to retire and possibly even resign. That's where Nancy Pelosi is someone who comes in. The Democrats I talked to said, look, he doesn't trust the voices in the media. He doesn't trust the New York Times. One reason he went with Stephanopoulos is because he does like Stephanopoulos. But you heard that audio.