 And Bob said, Charlie, I'm on speakerphone, and Paul's in there with you, isn't he? You know exactly what was going on. But Charlie could call general managers and owners and say, hey, what do you think about so-and-so? Hey, he's a great player. If you had a chance to get him, you should. Next day, he's on our team. I mean, that's how Charlie did it. Guys would show up. Remember, Vic D'Avelio showed up. Needed a pinch hitter. Lake Darren Johnson was a great DH when the DH came into the league.