 That's when Catfish was designated, declared a free agent, and he signed with the Yankees. Claudio went to left. Joe Rudy, who was playing left, went to first. Gene Tennis at first went to catcher. I went to bullpen, and that was it. But Charlie, he didn't say to somebody, hey, call him. He got on, hey, Ray, this is Charles O'Finley. How you doing? Okay. And he told me exactly what was going to happen, and he was the boss, and he knew what was happening. But Ron, he was brilliant. He knew how to get information.