 some comparable program is really long by network television standards. Luckily, I've been able to seek out little patches of ground where that doesn't apply. The late night show I did on NBC in the late 80s through the mid 90s, the later program that followed David Letterman, those were half-hour conversations, which minus Hello and Goodbye and the commercials, amounts to 22 minutes with an interesting person. And if that person was worth carrying over,