 I don't have a lot of interaction with him. This is a pretty senior cabinet secretary. So and this was two years ago. So I want to get your reaction because number one, Chuck Todd, it's unthinkable to me that he could say that and also know that he refused to report that two years ago. As meet the press host, I think you have an obligation to report it. Even if you don't like Donald Trump and don't want to make sure he's not president again,