 We weren't really sure, we just heard pop, pop, pop, we all hit the deck. And everybody said, I mean, I heard six to eight shots and other people around me, five to six, I heard six to eight. And it was like pop, pop, then it was like another burst again. And we didn't know where they were coming from when they swooped onto the president. They all had their guns drawn, like if there was an active shooter in the crowd, I don't think they knew where it was, where the shooter was.