 Panama was a diabolical sinister man. There's no doubt about this. Sort of like Simon Mars sinister in the old underdog cartoon. Just an evil guy, okay? But he had some, he was really, he was an astute trainer. I mean, he had some, he really had some smooth moves. But the bottom line is, they were all illegal. Of course, Panama Lewis ran in Aaron Pryor's corner back there in August of 1982, I believe. And, of course, that was down in Miami, Florida. There was no commission, per se. The padding was taken out of Aaron Pryor's gloves.