 But now you can hear a little bit more of it. But if you want all of it, you've got to go to my podcast, Highly Concentrated Hugh. Here's more of my conversation with Admiral Mike Studeman. I am back now with Rear Admiral Mike Studeman, retired United States Navy. His last job was the Office of Naval Intelligence, and he's now written a book, Might of the Chain, which I've linked over at my ex-account. But just remember Might of the Chain and go to Google and get it. You will be happy with this.