 still there the swing is still there when you watch him play the golf the body just doesn't cooperate and i think we've kind of gotten to the point now where the nostalgia of it is going to take over you and i are going to start talking about we watched him walk up the 18th hole at fill in the blank but of course it is because i believe this is probably the last time he's going to play true and true is in a 10-year rotation let's say that's about right so that would make tiger 58