 And we've got many other cases I could talk about. Many other cases. I actually have a stage four that has lived longer than the lady I'm talking about now. But we've got many other cancers. Maybe not much. 2007 and 17. That's about 18 years. This lady from stage four is still in remission. Never had chemo. Never had radiation because she never did that. But the question that you need to ask that I want you to think about is this lady...