 Not only would he have been the nominee for the Democrats, he would have beaten Donald Trump as Barack Obama's third term. That's their belief. You and I can disagree with them. But you have to understand, that's the Biden team's belief. The Biden team does not like Barack Obama. They don't like Valerie Jarrett. They don't like Eric Holder. They don't like David Axelrod. They don't like the people from Barack Obama's world. And so if you're out there and you're telling people that Barack Obama is clearly the one pulling the strings, you don't know what you're talking about.