 you know it's kind of like he was just in his living room and in fact speaking of his living room he talked about his mom who was depicted by glenn close in the movie um and he was really raised by his grandmother he's who that's actually who glenn close played but it's uh hillbilly allegedly uh elegy but she has been sober uh now and it's a good story but a holy hellacious upbringing here's jd vance talking about it pointing out his mom in the audience cut four