 There's definitely a bit of a vicious cycle in place here, right? With the gender pay gap of 17 cents, if one person needs to take a step back from their career to manage caregiving, it's going to be the one probably who earns less money, right? And so we need to be able to break out of that as well, right? Because that sort of drives the pattern, the gendered patterns of unpaid labor that we continue to see.