 And then she says, and I believe in Jesus Christ, okay, as my Savior, but I don't believe that there's a hell and I don't believe there's a devil. And I said, so do you think the Lord Jesus is a liar? She said, of course not. I said, well, he preached more on hell than he did heaven. He did? Yeah. Okay, so now, where do you get, so I took her to this very passage of Scripture right here. I took her right here to this.