 their uh kickback scheme with the race and there was a lot more planning that went on ahead of it very few people out there know joe biden as closely as mike mccormick does because it was his job to follow him around and record his conversations well now he's blowing the whistle and he's with us now to share more uh mike thank you so much for being here we appreciate having you thanks too and i would say i very few people know joe biden as well as i do and i'm willing to tell the truth about him right yes and that's what i've done and what is the truth