 That's exactly right, and I reached out to a lot of scientists for my article in the Epoch Times about this, and over and over again I kept saying, you know, I'd love to comment, but I can't because my funding is going to be jeopardized, my grant is going to be jeopardized. You know, if I get associated with saying that these papers are important, I'm going to be, you know, labeled, and I won't be able to participate anymore in scientific debates. So there's still a very real sense that that's going on. But when you look at the scientists behind these papers, for example, Dr. Willie Soon, these are people who have now moved away from the major institutes.