 And tonight, he's going to speak to George Stephanopoulos. It'll be 8 p.m. on ABC News. They were going to run clips tonight during the ABC Evening News and save it for Sunday. And under pressure from the White House, they decided to get it on out there. The White House, of course, wants it on out there. So if Biden needs to get out of the way, he can make the decision this weekend. But they're hoping for a NATO reset.