 Mark Halperin said he's talked to their campaigns or talked to the people around them. Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer, and Shapiro, the three biggest names you hear, have no interest in challenging Kamala Harris. That's Halperin. Yeah. Yeah, okay. All right, I believe it. I've been saying in various unfortunate metaphoric ways that Gavin Newsom is more than aroused at the idea of the Oval Office. I don't want to hear about his arousal.