 like Maud, as example. I knew she had to be there for her reasons and stuff, and I had to get to know her, and that was a bit of a struggle, because she's not really a very nice person. So it took a bit more work for me to get to know her and feel comfortable in her company. Mr James, young Mr James, yes, I had to get to know him, and I had to get him to grow a bit as well, because he was quite a young, well, in my terms, young...