 Well, it gave me an outlet for all the music I was writing. I had a partnership with Tom for many years, and we wrote a lot of great songs, in my opinion. But I wrote a lot of stuff that he could not process. It was too much. I was just kind of overindulgent or whatever. But all this music piled up on me. And as the Heartbreakers got more successful, we would have breaks between tours. And so I started messing around the studio with my friends, and that turned into the Dirty Knobz.