 got a chance to meet him when I went to a mini camp that we had. And the amazing thing about Dick is that who you see is who you get. And, you know, there's never a secret. So from the first day that I met Dick Vermeule to today, the guy hasn't changed. He's a guy that wears these emotions on his sleeve. He's a guy that's always going to be honest with you. He's a guy that has the best interest of people.