 And when you begin to talk about defense, even today, there's a great deal of offense all over the scoreboards. But when it comes right down to it, if you can shut the people down and slow them down, you've got a better chance to win. And I think the thing that lives with you is that you have to prepare for that four or five days a week to do it one time a week. So you're being exposed to that discipline and that dedication and that demand for excellence.