 You know, Chuck Noll called me in the office and said, hey, I want you and Chuck Lanza to fight it out for the center position, starting position for my second year. And luckily I won that fight, and, you know, I tried to be like Mike. I tried to lead by example because Mike was a great role model, you know, and I tried to do the exact same thing he did, tried to model the way he kind of led by example, and it paid off.