 We started with the ORA from some other site. Uh-huh. They had a show at the Bell Auditorium years ago. Yeah. And they were done in the way of funding, so we had to go some other routes. Uh-huh. Him and all the rest of us started. So you bought a, you had a car even back then? Yes. What type, what type of vehicle did you have then and what type of vehicle do you have now? I had a 46 Coupe and I still have it. Oh, listen to that. Oh, wow.