 And I know that sounds counterintuitive to being a journalist. I wrote Rory that night. I was writing sort of the emotions of the moment. I needed him to talk to make that story work. However, I understand there's also emotions involved here. So I understand why he didn't have any interest in that. My concern here is that it's become more and more often when it comes to Rory and other top players to decide that, no, I'm not going to do this. And I thought Scott Van Pelt