 you know, what they have in common, what they may have learned, what they like and what they don't like about John Blazkowicz, who's the CEO of Medi's Post-Op and Surgical, and Shakima Fulmer-Townsend, who happens to be the president of Hamilton Family Charitable Trust. Question I got for you, Kazim. Was this worth your time or was this a waste of time in your opinion? This was a great piece of time to talk about.