 know if you were in advanced alien race most likely that would be your technology because you wouldn't be in three dimensions right so so there's some ideas for you to play with and you know i talk about this in some of my other podcasts so you can go check those out as well we're with dr doug matsky doug how did you get involved in this these kinds of subjects well you know i was a scientist from the very early on working in computers back in college back in the early 70s and um and i read