 running for president, letting alone getting a nomination. These are the types of numbers when you combine them with some of the numbers that we're seeing post debate that show him trailing Donald Trump. These are the types of numbers that could end a campaign if he can't turn them around. That's pretty big stuff from Harriet and later on. The problem is that then you have people like Jay Johnson, the former Homeland Security Secretary for Barack Obama, who will go on TV and say something like this.