 that they would get more selling that vehicle than they would if they didn't buy the certification. And that was our interview with Dave Sargent, who is the J.D. Power vice president in charge of the connected vehicle practice. Always great to talk to Dave, of course. I've known him for years and years and years. I'll tell you, it sounds like J.D. Power will be answering a need with their new battery certification program. So look for that interesting stuff that they're going to do at J.D. Power.