 And Rumsfeld was very good friends with Gerald Ford, who was on the Warren Commission. And Rumsfeld, I think, did some assisting behind the scenes with Ford. And he said the Warren Commission and Ford's time on that commission is what convinced him there's no government conspiracy. So because of whatever you may think about Lee Harvey Oswald and who did it and was there a second shooter or stuff, he said it's impossible. No one in government can keep a secret. Everybody rats each other out.