 Yes, there are two groups of Batanga. One branch moved from southern Cameroon into the southwest near Nigeria centuries ago. They have Ekpe, and then I kept hearing about the Batanga of the South. Which is the French-speaking region? I had never been there, and unfortunately, I don't speak French. But a NASA co-friend of mine said, oh, I know Echo Roosevelt, the chief of Batanga. So I said, okay, I'm going. And I just hopped on a bus from Yaoundé and went there to see Echo Roosevelt in the city of Tribi.