 just over in ohio just not too far i can drive over to butler with no problem some of these other folks will have to come longer distance but i think it would be important to have a walk through with the people who are in charge that day and then follow through with uh some folks who might be more experienced who have been there to take a service in the past to give you an overlay of you know this is what happened this is what should have happened this is how we normally prep a situation like this so we do at least have a starting basis on which to make our analysis