 Just an interesting time. That's still a place when you walk in NBC, don't you feel like you're going into a broadcasting museum? I used to love just sitting in his office and I would help. I would go rip off the wire copy. I loved using the copy machine. And when you talk about his advice to you, I just heard him on the radio the other day. They celebrated Howie Rose, 50 years in broadcasting on WFAN. And Howie, when he was 14 years old, uh,