 bigger it takes a a long long time to to be able to create those those big stars that people want to see and i think they've struggled with that i think swerve strickland is a good example someone that really had to work for it really had to you know go this really uh long and winding road to kind of get where he is and i mean he's been on my show on this uh website before and wrestlingobserver.com done an interview with him uh years ago