 More or less in kind of wind conditions. Once it was fiery, they hadn't had a lot of rain. Ruffles all thinned out. It played so easy. And then the year that Vanderbilt did his thing, the ruffle was impossible. I didn't even know how anyone was going to break. Really, I mean, guys were shooting in the 80s that week quite often. And it wasn't any surprise. I remember...