 So he sat with us for about a half an hour, and he seemed really relaxed. And he had already signed with Fox at that point, so he was kind of interested in the mechanics of this production meeting. I was right around that time, too. But I said to him, I said, I have a trivia question for you. You started seven games in your career against the Cleveland Browns, against seven different Cleveland starting quarterbacks. How many can you name? I just threw that out at him, and his mind started churning. And I think he got five or six of them. So he's a student of the game. Right.