 I don't think he wants to leave NATO. I think he wants to make it stronger, but he doesn't want America to get fleeced. I think he thinks that a lot of countries take advantage of us, and he's right. And so I think he wants to make them spend more money. So what I think he should do, I have an essay in the Post today laying out a MAGA agenda for NATO and how he can make NATO great again. One of the most important things to do is say, 2%? Great.