 And I thought he was talking about the chef. I said, no, I don't need to know how to cook. He said, no, not boredom Ramsey, Dave Ramsey. And he just kind of gave me some insight. I Googled it and there's like 20 books and I didn't know where to start. And there was a phone number. So I called it and. And what happened? So I was doing good for a while. I paid off my cars. I was saving money.