 Her work has been accepted as credible evidence in state courts and is cited by non-U.S. government officials and experts. So let's welcome Karen Kingston back to the program, and we'll talk about this battle that has begun. Karen, it's great to have you back on the program. Thanks for making time. Thank you so much for having me back, John. It's an honor to speak with you and your audience. Well, thank you for saying that. The honor is ours.