 um which is powder coat it's not going to rust it's going to be substantial you can drill into the concrete and i got some good tips there where it's not going to be as difficult as it once was to set like a wrought iron rail uh fence or railing i'm sure you know what i'm talking about where it has the railing it has little spindles that are coming down they're kind of decorative yeah they're kind of twisted yeah you can buy them in sections and uh