 Now here's more on this loser. In terms of number of encounters at the southern border, the numbers that you're looking at today and during the Biden administration are still quite a bit higher and more problematic now than during the Trump years. Why is that? Let me just pause it. They're showing a chart on the screen right now. 396,000 in 2018. This is encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border. 2019 went up to 851,000.