 um you know again like if you kept the mics on trump could have interrupted me more and maybe he would have been more aggressive and maybe that could have played to biden's advantage but the mics you know being shut off once the respondent was done answering the question you didn't have those moments you saw in 2020 um so you know i i think you know the thing that's sort of jaw-dropping is that biden was the one who wanted this debate early on he wanted to