 politicians they're not they themselves would say they're not sort of bouncing with charisma and one-liners and charm and funny lines that's just not who they are so I guess it was always going to be a kind of well how would you call it I guess in the Cape and seeing as well at the time of the Euros a hard-fought draw so they were facing also questions from the audience what would you say stood out for you in terms of their answers trying to convince voters to come to their side