 Making hits. And he said, no, no, no. Besides that, he said, who's going to get on the boards of companies? Who's going to be philanthropic? Who's going to be raising the next generation of songwriters? And who's going to be the next Barry Gordy and the next Dick Griffey and the next Clarence Avon? I never thought about it like that. Clarence Avon is the greatest man I've ever known.