 That, to me, is the foundation of the sort of transformation that one needs to create a just society. We have an incredible talent for hypocrisy. And all of us want to feel virtuous. We all want to pay lip service to worthy causes. But as soon as we're forced to pay a price for it, we look the other way. Whether it's the World Economic Forum in Davos or within the United Nations itself or within the academy, everybody's virtuous.