 Welcome back. It's The Treatment on location in Malibu with Sean Penn. I'm Ellis Mitchell. We're talking about his new film, Daddy-O, which stars him and Dakota Johnson. And I guess as we were talking in the first half, I find myself thinking so often that the characters you play, we get to see them decide if they're going to trust somebody or not. And as you were talking about The Crossing Garden, I actually jumped to the pledge. We can sort of see those questions of a man wrestling with who he can trust