 And one day we decided to just show up at his house down in Philadelphia. We drove, we got in my car, which was a Volkswagen Beetle at the time. And we showed up at Grover's house, man, and played him these songs, you know, and he never made us feel bad for just doing that. You know, he pulled out his horn and played to our songs, even though he never used them, but just the fact that he would take the time with two nobodies at the time and, and just give us the time of day, you know, that's just the kind of man he was. And, um,