 is just a constant negotiation of power and a power imbalance. And that's just the way it is. And I think that is something that she got from her childhood, of course, but also from her relationship with Mike Nichols, where, yes, they were wonderful together and they were two sides of the same coin, but they also routinely manipulated the hell out of each other. It was not an uncomplicated relationship, as wonderful as it was.