 Michelle Fleury reporting there from Georgia. So what is it that those involved in the economy really want to hear from Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden in this upcoming debate? Well, joining me now, I'm very pleased to say is Tracy Tapani, owner of Wyoming Machine, based in Minnesota and vice chair of the Small Business Council there. Tracy, thank you so much for being with us. Now, you own a manufacturing company in Wyoming. As I said, you have four years under President Trump, four years under President Biden. Is one better than the other when it comes to a small business ownership?