 that she said in the 50s when they were interviewed I think her and Mike were interviewed about their mother and son sketch and when they were talking about how it is it is kind of the mother in that scene is both of their mothers and she said something about how you can't be a satirist if you're not empathetic because then it's just smart-alecky and there's no humanity to it and that just cast everything in a new light for me and I suddenly realized