 It's the treatment. My guest, who can't see me nodding in agreement with her, is Carrie Courage in her terrific book on Elaine May. It's called Miss May Does Not Exist. It's the treatment, which you can also hear at kcrw.com slash the treatment. But as you were saying that, I was thinking to that section on Tootsie where she's giving Sidney Pollack notes and talking about how...