 And, you know, that eventually evolved into Hearst recognizing my interest. And when I was in junior high school, I got the opportunity. Well, actually, in elementary school, I began fooling around with clarinet and then carried on into junior high. And then eventually I picked up the tenor saxophone. In the high school band, I became the lead tenor saxophone player in the jazz band. It was actually in high school I decided I was going to be a professional musician. And it was only because I recognized probably then that I could make money doing it.