 Now, you might wonder why I'm using the word ironically. But wonder no more. Frank tells the story. The little nuggets that got out there, those nuggets actually spread only because I was still touring with other people that was giving me love. I was touring with Frankie Beverly in 99. And prior to playing with these guys, I was with Tina Marie, who gave me my first shot when I first moved to California. Phillip Bailey, who took me out of the country for the first time, he took me to Japan.