 Crazy sources that I knew nothing about, including there was like a Scottish radio show where one of the initial impulses came from. They just sent people out into the woods carrying a survival manual. And that was the initial impulse for this British sequence. And then that turned into an idea for the format. And so I sort of traced the whole thing. And then the second chapter is about Survivor Borneo. But the reason I thought it deserved so much attention is actually that, as I think many people in Hollywood understand, the success of that show