 certainly at that time, there were famous people and unfamous people. And then there were these people who were violating the rules by unaccountably becoming famous, despite theoretically being civilians. And I think that, you know, the Louds ended up in this weird position where they were kind of riding the waves of their own publicity and scandal and sometimes enjoying it. But also being laughingstocks, which I think has remained an issue, certainly for people who go on these shows. Yeah.