 So you were considered part of the punk new wave scene in New York. When I interviewed Seymour Stein, the co-founder of Sire Records, the label that signed Tucking Heads, he told me that he came up with the expression new wave because the promotion people for Sire were describing Tucking Heads as punk. But Stein thought you were, quote, the furthest thing from punk. Did you feel like the furthest thing from punk?