 In the olden days. If a mother was trying to teach her daughter to make candles, she would not be pleased with these candles. But we'll see what happens. I was afraid when we lit these things that we might set off the fire alarm or the sprinkler system in the office. I mean, that is how weird it is to have light from fire these days. I was afraid we weren't going to be able to light them at all. I mean, it's just beef fat and twine. But we pulled out a lighter.