 and that started everything that was that built the foundation you can do that here these guys need to make the playoffs and know what it's like you can't wait for marcello meyer and all these guys to get here having not made the playoffs in like eight years give duran a taste of it give hawk a taste of it give these guys experience in october that they can use moving forward it's an investment in the future but i don't i don't anticipate that necessarily resonating with ownership