 I'm quite sure that those four years, foundationally, are what inevitably do create that foundation. It's what sticks. And so you must be absolutely thrilled about it. Tell me about the NBA for a second. By the way, I'm guessing, based on your relationship, every once in a while you've been able to talk to him through this period. Were you able to chat with him through the season and through the playoffs at all? Yeah, so...