 Let's see, that was a weird time, so maybe 53. Whoa, way lower. Way lower? Yeah, lower than her. Lower than her? Yep. Okay, I thought he might have been older. No, how old was he? 35. Lower. 32. Higher. 34. 34 years old. So he was 34, she was 40. 40. Wow. Vivian Vance, Ethel. Okay, that was Lucy's best friend, right? They made her up to look older than she was.