 And viewing Mr. Biden, you could not say that that's what he represents. So how are they going to respond these next months, not just in 25, but over these next months? Well, I think they're going to respond very, very cautiously. They're going to be worried that someone in their region is going to do something which might affect them and that the United States will not be in a position to exert any influence or stabilizing influence over their areas.