 And then the idea that, with George Clooney writes in his op-ed in the New York Times, that the reason why we have to get rid of Joe is because this is new and shocking information, the way he behaved at the debate. Is it really new and shocking? Honestly? Honestly answer that to me, because I've got to tell you, there's a lot of people out there that I talk to, it's not new or shocking.