 So I think even at a young age and, you know, my sister Allison and I, we had a band around that time and we were really serious about that, even though we had like no clue what we were doing. Factually, we were just we took it super, super serious and everything, you know, was about the band from from moment one. Was that like commitment to the form or like commitment to the art or was it sort of like, hey, I want to do this for the rest of my life, so I better take it seriously?