 And then you have other guys like James Black, who was a brilliant drummer, former trumpet player, turned drummer, had great piano skills, and was equally gifted as a composer as he was a drummer. He can be heard on a lot of stuff. Yousef Lateef in the 60s. He also saw the Nat Adderley recall in the bag. Cannonball Adderley and a bunch of the New Orleans cats like Nat Perilat and Alvin Baptiste.