 That was my conversation with Jonathan Schroeder, literary historian at the Rhode Island School of Design and the author of the new book, The True Story of Slavery, The United States Governed by 6,000 Despots. I'm Luis Hernandez, and this is the Publix Radio. And by the way, I need to clarify there, I made a mistake. It's 600,000 despots. My apologies for the mistake. Fascinating book. Check it out. Artscape on our website, also on your podcast app.