 But I also talked to Jervis, who was the cast member who ate the grub for one of the tribes. And he said that he had said in his psychological tests, like they all had to spill a lot of personal information. And I think he said that he was frightened of caterpillars. Like that was one of his fears. So his impression was that they had deliberately contrived something that was going to freak him out. And that seems quite likely to me. Because one of the things about these shows is they know...