 It is always good to be here with Jeff Massey, founder and president of Massey & Associates, Inc. And I think this is an important conversation to have if you are questioning who you are working with as an advisor or if you're looking for an advisor, what to be looking for. And I want to circle back, Jeff. I know we're coming up on the end of this segment here in a couple of minutes, but I want to circle back to what you said about how it's sometimes, not always, but sometimes is easy for you to tell in that initial meeting whether it's not just going to work out on you.