 in the time span that we've been looking at these lives. It's maybe the beginning of something, but we have no idea if it will last. You know, and the other thing that has happened since the time we started working on this project in 1991 to today is over time, there's just a lot more guns and gunfire in society. I remember going to a film at the church in 1991 where the Newmans attend, the Roman Catholic Church,