 what to do, because there are so many scams going on, phone scams, people are getting looted all the time and tricked, and then there's Ponzi schemes. I think I can help. Yeah, well, that would be great. Let me reintroduce you. My guest is financial investigative journalist Richard Behar. His new book is called Madoff, The Final Word. We'll be right back. This is Fresh Air.