 But when I sat down with Eliza to talk about it, she was warm, self-deprecating. I come in like frazzled, my hands have a little ketchup on them. So I played the call for her and just asked her, what was up with that? How do you think you sound in this? Not great. I mean, I think I sound offensive and offensive. I think so. I'm like, I don't even really care. But for you, it's different. Oh, this matters to you, but it doesn't matter to me. For you, it's good.