 than a sort of clever political pick. If Mike Pence is a way for Donald Trump to shore up his support with evangelical communities, there's no sort of political similarity there with J.D. Vance, at least not clearly. Because as I said before, Donald Trump seems to perform pretty well in the blue wall states without J.D. Vance. Now, I will say, politically speaking, this does raise the possibility of Donald Trump being able to break into