 It was very shaky. But it was a great vantage point to do the games. I'd go up there, I'd do the games. And I'd go downstairs, get my car, and drive back to Providence again. So I would never talk to players. And I never traveled with the team. So as you know, if you don't travel with the team, you really don't have the opportunity to make or establish any kind of relationship or friendship. So with that team of Larry and Kevin and those guys, Danny,