 that Atlantic would be the laughing stock of the music business. That was actually said. But why? I mean, the songs were good. Because it wasn't grunge. It wasn't grunge. It wasn't what was happening at the time. Everybody wanted to stick with the same thing. Grunge was king. Everybody was looking for their Nirvana. Nobody was looking for Hoodie the Bullfish. That's tough, man. It was tough.