 Now, there is poaching also in Uganda in many areas, and the poachers are not specifically trying to catch lions. They're mostly trying to catch food for themselves and their families. But if they use snares, then the lions may be caught inadvertently. They're sort of bycatch. The demands on the land are getting ever more intense. It is a very splendid example of their vigorous spirit that they can go ahead and do something extraordinary like swim a mile across a lake.