 advocates authoritarian measures as well as racist measures. Although they would say, of course, they aren't authoritarian or racist, wouldn't they? And I suppose, but there's also the kind of personal animosity there appears to be between President Macron and Marine Le Pen, the leader of the National Rally as well. Cecile Lecomte, for now, thanks very much. Indeed, there'll be plenty more to come about the situation in France later on in the programme here on Newsday.