 what is it that drew you into this music though what is like is there a moment you're like oh my gosh this is uh this is everything for me one moment that's clicked for me is playing live for people because this music is it's immediately kind of a visceralness to it yeah it's it's music that really drives forward you know even when it's slow it still has like this really kind it always feels like it's a little bit ahead of the beat i think too it's it's music that's kind of meant to be experienced live