 This is On Point. I'm Meghna Chakrabarty, and Jason DeLeon joins us today. He's author of Soldiers and Kings, Survival and Hope in the World of Human Smuggling. Professor DeLeon, again, early-ish in the book, you have this whole section called The Road. It was really eye-opening to me, and I was wondering if we could just take a few minutes to kind of walk through what you described there today.