 And Emma's telling us we will see that play itself out again and again. We need to see the other side of the coin, however. So when we come back, we're going to introduce Tullia, who is the opposite of Lucretia, and will lead to the end of the Roman monarchy and the beginning of the Republic. The book is A Rome of One's Own, The Forgotten Women of the Roman Empire. Emma Southern is the author. I'm John Batchelor.