 certainly more coherently than biden has been able to have late and that's been a breath of fresh air for a lot of democrats what about the vice presidential pick is jd vance helping trump at all well you know no one really votes for the vp pick and that's especially true when the person at the top of the ticket is donald trump vance has had a bit of a rocky start i have to say and this is a crucial time for him 41 in our poll said that they don't have an opinion about him yet only 28 have a favorable opinion of him