 Check out my conversation with Darrell Brown, vice president of the Foundation's Rhode Island chapter. It's on our website, thepublicsradio.org. You can also find it on the Weekly Catch. All right, coming up on the program, record rains in southern Brazil due to climate change have some considering relocating towns. But how do you do that when some people don't want to move? That's coming up right here on the Publix Radio. It's 821.