 Again, I had a very long conversation with the mayor. We broke it up into two parts. You can listen back on this part of the conversation on our website, thepublicsradio.org. The other part of the conversation, more focused on education, was part of the weekly catch. And you can find that online on our website. You can also find the weekly catch on your podcast app. Good morning. Coming up on 10 o'clock, BBC News is coming up next.