 And then we continue trying to find the underlying causes. What were the root causes which led to the killing of this elderly person? If the issue is still not yet addressed, that means there will be another one who will be killed, and the other one, and the other one. I've been speaking to Julius Wanyama. He works with an organization which is trying to raise awareness of the abuse suffered by elderly people. I wanted to know why Julius decided to do this kind of work.