 I've had a good friendship with the minister at Conyers Street Baptist Church, David Mitchell. So I think finding ways for people to connect with people that they might not otherwise think to include. And that makes such a difference. And people reflect, look back on their life and think, oh, I met that interesting person when we were talking about something that they knew more than I did or that their opinion differed from me. But we were in a group. So I was open to learning, to having that space to meet people.