 definitely wasn't crumbling around us every single day. I mean, when that album came out, it sort of found its audience because its audience was in a place that had never been before. Lockdown, lonely, downloading Zoom, watching COVID-19 change the world in real time. And for a lot of people, that's what made St. Cloud hit. It felt like a bit of a bomb, like B-A-L-M, for all that anxiety and uncertainty you might've been feeling while you were washing your cornflakes with soap and water.