 And Frederick Blair, the, again, de facto minister of immigration, he even says, well, the worst thing would be a successful conference, because then what do you think the states of Poland and Romania and other places with Jewish populations don't like? What are they going to take from this? They're going to think, let's start pushing them out, and Canada will take them, and the United States will take them. Very important moment to linger on when we're talking about the past informing the present. Mm-hmm.