 Well, the people that I talk to are ordinary members of the voting populace. And the ordinary members of the voting populace, voters who participate in our elections, particularly in the battleground states, they're voters who want to see a Joe Biden 2024 election. They're voters who understand that Donald Trump is not someone that we want in office again. Those are the people that matter. But opinion polls suggest that more people at the moment, if the election were held tomorrow, would vote for Donald Trump than would vote for Joe Biden.