 You know, he was largely incoherent and untruthful during the last debate. I don't think that most Americans who are in that middle, who are trying to decide with an open, honest mind, who are not just partisan loyalists. I don't think most of the people who watched that debate came away saying, that's the guy I want to be, have as my president. So the reason I'm parsing this is that I don't think Biden, I don't think Trump gained votes, but I do think Biden lost votes.