 But she has proven that she's a tough, tough campaigner. And the two of them, if they have a presidential debate, will be, I will pay thousands of dollars to your favorite charity if you can get me front row seats to that debate. Well, the next debate was supposed to be between Biden and Trump in September. How likely do you think that Kamala Harris, if she becomes a nominee, will just slide right in there and have that debate? And will Trump want to have that debate, you think?