 I would drive into Boston, park my car, go upstairs to the press room, sit down with Tommy Hines, who was always here before me, and he'd be sitting with Johnny most. And I would sit there and get something to eat. I'd listen to those two guys talk. And Tommy would look at me about a half hour before the game was supposed to start and say, hey, let's go talk to Red. We'd be down at Red's office. Again, I wouldn't say a word. I'd just sit there and be silent. Tommy and Red would go back and forth about how the game was going to be played. I'd go up to the gondola. We called it a gondola. It was just this big.