 I'm David Brancaccio in New York. If the Trump-Vance ticket emerges the winner in November, let's look at what we know about Vice President J.D. Vance's views on spending, jobs, and government's role in business and trade. Hint, Vance sees a big role for government. I spoke with Scott Lincecum this morning. He's Vice President of General Economics and Trade at the libertarian-leaning Cato Institute. Thank you for doing this.