 there forming the team and responsible for the results to what extent is he really uh responsible for the successes and the failures is it about picking the team is it about training them or is it really down to the players and that's a mystery i don't know the answer to well presumably the manager's fairly important he's a fairly celebrated figure especially if he wins but that's what we all assume and yet if you've got some brilliant players uh is it really not down to them rather than to the the manager