 At the time, I think finding where that moral question or the moral solution was, was quite difficult because, of course, appeasement only becomes a dirty word after the fact when it doesn't work. And I think a lot of people would argue, in fact, that with regards to appeasing Hitler, that the assumption is sometimes that, well, had the West taken a hard stand in 1937 or 1938, they could have averted war. And I think...