 takes on this kind of new role. But all these young people who get involved in smuggling come from these very, very difficult backgrounds. And I think for me, one of the most shocking things that I kind of discovered early on was that everyone that I worked with had witnessed someone they care about be murdered, which really, I think, speaks to the types of dangers that these folks are fleeing. And then also, I think the experiences that these smugglers bring with them to these hyper-violent contexts.