 And then someone will say, oh, my brother-in-law went to Harvard Business School. And I say, do you think he has an hour? And then I usually will have, let's say, coffee with this person. And that person says, oh, I don't mind telling this person all of my secrets because it's in fiction. Like, I'm never going to get quoted. So he is telling me all of his secrets. And he has so much fun. Usually he'll say, so you want to talk to somebody who went to Harvard Business School and now works in private equity? Oh.