 There is no future in which a Jewish person and a Palestinian person can live together in peace in one country. But this is exactly why we have to double down on it. I don't think I'm the one who's dysfunctional for thinking that democracy and humanity is the only thing that can win. I really think that anybody who thinks that anything else can fix this is the one who's dysfunctional. So what do you think a viable movement for Palestinian liberation would look like?