 They'd be destroyed. He says, for one, police should never be so cash-strapped that they're forced into doing this. So I think it's a two-part program. One is the funding needs to be right-sized and accurate and fulfilled. And on the other side is they need to have just a hard and fast policy. We're not going to do this. But not all law enforcement sees it that way. We went to Indianapolis to speak to the city's police chief, Christopher Bailey, about the gun that killed Cameron Brown.