 But I think he's right when it comes to the macro, right, when it comes to building your career or raising children, for example. I know that this specific item you're speaking about does not refer to this, but think about the discussions right now about using artificial intelligence in the arts and the threat it poses to the arts. And that one comment alone I think is so meaningful, and I hope it comes up again in this conversation because companies are looking at using AI to be efficient.