 thing that we're really picking up on here is this idea of a process there is certainly a process that is playing out in the senate and the house between these closed door meetings including senate democrats meeting with members of the biden campaign but as far as this idea of this open-ended decision that the president has to make the president obviously insists he's adamant about this that he's staying in this race that the decision has been made but a lot of members feel like there is some wiggle room there at least 18 deaths are reported in northern california struggling