 If you don't know, she raises beef cattle on her farm in Little Compton. So there's a lot to unpack with this amazing woman. I'm so excited to have a conversation with you, Reverend Spencer. Thank you for taking the time. Thank you, Deb. Please call me Rebecca. Okay, well, thank you. I just love your personal connection with farming. I'd like to talk about the significance, in your opinion, of connecting with the land and spirituality and faith in someone's life.