 Well, I have to go back to my second book, which is In the Wake on Blackness and Being, in which I'd been trying to think about both the hold, as in the hold of the slave ship, but then how else the hold might appear, as in one's encounter with another, a kind of ethical obligation to the other, where you see them, they see you. And so the various meanings of what it might be to be held, both as enclosure and