 without knowing a lot of how this works but by listening I took a like many many notes yesterday too many and that's what I thought I heard as well and that's what I wanted so if anyone's in that business in that area you're retired whatever building construction project development and management I'd like to hear a little bit more like Tom who just called in and then Sal will be first when we come back if he can hold four three eight nine seven seven six I think we did it backwards they admit to being too aggressive