 who is former NATO Deputy Assistant Secretary General. In other words, looking at this from the point of view of security. And Ms. Bapps reminds us that Emmanuel Macron, who called this special election, made a statement recently that Europe is mortal. Europe is mortal. What does that mean, Judy? How did Stephanie Bapps mean it in quoting it? And what did Mr. Macron mean? Good evening to you.