 And he was phenomenal. And his team, too, Ernie. We know the legendary, I think it was 88-game winning streak that was snapped out at Notre Dame. But these guys did not lose. For Bill's sophomore and junior year, they didn't lose at all, I believe. And then senior year, they ended up losing to Notre Dame. And again, in the NCAAs, I mean, they were certainly a threat to go undefeated his entire career.