 one of the finales of Survivor. They had a party at a nightclub, and he was looking up from one tier of the nightclub, and he was looking at Mark Burnett talking to Trump and feeling like he was witnessing this historical moment. So I have no idea exactly when the moment was that he suggested it. Mark Burnett's story that he liked to tell was that he was in the jungle, and he was watching ants, I think, eating a carcass or something, and he was thinking...