 You're listening to Q. I'm Talia Schlanger sitting in for Tom Power. And you're in the middle of Tom's conversation with Luke Guilford. His debut feature film, National Anthem, is all about the world of queer rodeo. It's inspired by his own journey growing up in a rodeo family in Colorado and realizing that he didn't need to turn away from that part of his life, that there was actually a whole subculture of queer people doing things like roping and bull riding. And that discovery led him to do a lot of thinking about cowboy culture.