 So there's that. And just because you're willing, it doesn't mean it's happening. You've got an op-ed piece, I guess, or a post that was first in the New York Times by James Carville, which we'll get to in a little bit. We'll talk about that. And we've got some audio that came back, a clip from the governor saying that he was happy with the meeting, the governor's meeting the other day. I'll play that for you.