 people either like him a lot or hate him a lot. And there's very few people that are persuadable. And so what I don't know is like, he definitely had a moment, he understands, like Reagan did, like Reagan understood that he was at the center of a stage. Like Reagan was an actor, 50 movies or so, and his two best scenes and his two best movies were hospital-like deathbed scenes, right? So Reagan understood intuitively that key moment in that operating room, what he had to say,