 outsiders for their internal memos, because we know very well what they would write back to us. They'd say, no, thank you. We're not going to give it to you. If and when we get into the litigation process. No, in the litigation, we would press that. But if we ask for voluntary turnover of internal records, you can imagine what they're going to say, which is not going to happen. My second quick question is, you've discussed the tension between interesting agencies, litigation between the two, and it wouldn't make sense.