 being on this side of a press conference. And listen, he was during the days of 38 Studios. I do recall him from that. But he said this is so much bigger. He started off by saying this is so much bigger than a slip and fall case at the store or a fender bender. We've been here four months. It might seem like a lot of time to you, but it really isn't. So you can hear in his answers that what he can give us