 All right, we'll stop it right, we can pause it right there so I can repeat Kathy, just because she walked away from the mic or they walked away from her. I didn't see the visual. She said, I spoke with Max Wistow when, and he said he didn't know if the forensic report was going to be made public. So I'm assuming, she said, that this would be the governor's decision to release the forensic report. Now, Max Wistow is one of the two, Savage is the other, lawyers that the governor hired. So here's what he says to Kathy Gregg. It was hard to hear.