 But he had such a fortune that it would be very hard for him not to be doing all right. Shipping? Yeah, he was a merchant. He inherited his uncle's merchant business, which was very, very big. And he was a studying influence. I think he's another one where you can't see anything necessarily flashy. But I think he was a studying influence. He kept everybody else kind of calm because he didn't push anything too hard. And people loved him. I mean, he was probably the most popular of these guys until