 And he kind of dodged it by saying, oh, Ellie, let me tell you about Ellie. I had dinner with him once. You can't even understand a word he's saying. That guy is so full of s**t, he's counting the profits. What profits? Well, I think his point was he feels that Ellie was taking money out, allegedly, or that his foundation at one point did well. But I don't know if that's true. And frankly, I wouldn't take Bernie's word on that.