 to get a conviction, and then they've since now put the sentencing off until September. So technically he's not a convicted felon until September. But see, that was the whole plan, so that Tony in Providence would have his talking point. And it worked. It absolutely worked like a charm. Let's go to Lou in Providence. Lou, thanks for calling. Glad you called the John Laughlin Show. How are you? Hey, how you doing, John? Did you see the interview yesterday? I did, I did. I didn't see it yesterday. I saw it this morning, actually.