 And this is a theme that is very much a part of his history. You know, he has never been in his own mind a real insider in politics. No, he's Scranton Joe. Exactly. And that's a big piece of how he sees it. Like a lot of Americans, we I'm sure both watched the interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC. President Biden was pushed on his debate performance. He wrote it off as a bad night.