 where you could hear him flipping through papers as he was trying to answer. And so, I mean, talk about a softball interview. I mean, of course, but I just want to play this because it's like, you think this helps? Here we go. I'm curious, is that an allusion also to Donald Trump and the fact that Democrats, you believe, may now be doing the same thing that Donald Trump tried to do in 2020, and that is overthrow the popular will of Democratic voters?