 So, thank you for taking the time. I know we're running out of time, so I don't want to take much of your time. I put to him his father's allegations. He denies it all. He's never called his father a witch, he says. None of it is true. Chris says he couldn't go to the elders' meeting because he was busy at work, and there's nothing to resolve. Maybe he's blaming himself, but I don't blame him. There's nothing I can blame him for.