 Critic Murtada El Fadl is still here in the studio with us and poet and artist Imtiaz Dharka is here. Imtiaz, are you a fan of Marina's work? Well, I've always admired her, you know, as a big, powerful female presence, you know, like a slab of rock that's always there. And also the way she uses her body as a place of performance and extreme endurance.