 Marla Eisen, then what is the sense among Democrats about Harris's chances? Well, I think that they are cautiously optimistic, but we just don't have a lot of evidence here. Our latest NPR poll, NPR-Marist-PBS poll, showed that she runs nationally against Trump about the same as Biden does. What we don't have are any public battleground polls to see how she does. But Democrats are cautiously optimistic. Even