 Well, I've been around him quite a while. I've been on the Ohio ballot many, many times. This was the first time that he was on there. So I don't know if a comparison between myself and him is fair. I think the more people get to know him, the better they like him. He was still very new to the people of the state of Ohio. But look, he's going to be a strong candidate, and I think he's going to be a strong vice president.