 the status quo as it was underneath British rule, what really actually was getting that bad, that people could not continue their lives just every day doing what they wanted to, and a change needed to happen. Now, what that change was, there were a lot of different debates, but ultimately, obviously, where we got... Well, this is the... I always say one of the things I love about the founders is their deep understanding of philosophy and the human condition. They were students of the human condition, the human soul, the human mind,