 I think Donald Trump does have this kind of deep connection to people who are very different from him. This flamboyant New York expert in commercial fraud who wears makeup and this strange hue and Brioni suits and ties that are too long and flies around in a jet and is the embodiment of 1980s success, that he could become this repository of the hopes of so many people who are so different from him. I don't think J.D. Vance is quite that. One of the things that's very strange, when he was nominated...