 to, uh, go out of his way. He let Marvin live in his house out in San Diego. And, uh, Marvin used to tell me that, uh, his kids, Walton's kids used to call him uncle Marvin. So he had a close relationship with Marvin as he did with Kevin. And, uh, he was a really special person who was very kind, loving, and, uh,