 I was with these folks in the downtime. I wasn't someone who was going to get on the top of a freight train. I didn't think that me being in those situations was going to be all that helpful. I find that when people go in that direction, it tends to be more about the person who's reporting that stuff in that context as opposed to what those people's experiences are on a day-to-day basis. And so for me, so much of the work was