 More conservative than Trump. Said, I'm a never-Trumper. He's a fraud. He's the worst guy in the world. Well, that was then. This is now. Now he's Trump's VP pick. Trump thinks he'll shore up the Midwest, the Rust Belt states. He's from Ohio. Trump thinks he'll shore up MAGA. He's the next generation of MAGA. He's farther to the right than Trump. J.D. Vance.