 And I said, you're looking for the federalization of Ukraine as you can get the natalization of Finland. And about four weeks later, I got a call. That's not true. Probably five months later from the president of Finland, could he come and see me? In my office, I invited him to the local office. He sat down and talked. He said he wanted to join NATO. Could I help? And I did. It wasn't automatic. And then I got a call from the Swedes.