 And so that concerns me, that he would want to cut programs. You can say we've got to fix the federal government. I'm all with you on that. But when we have people who really need help, do we want somebody who is not sympathetic? So if you read the end of that book and you hear what he said about it, that's the thing. It's not about ideology per se. Like you're saying, on particular issues, he seems seriously hardcore, hardline. And for Rhode Island, which struggles with this, that's the kind of thing that I would worry about about J.D. Vance.