 Well, you know, it's a funny thing. Joe Scarborough came to national prominence as a Newt Gingrich Republican, you know, basically these flamethrowers going against the Clinton administration in the 1990s. He then got a second chapter of his life. He left Congress. He ultimately joined MSNBC and became kind of a centrist figure as NBC, excuse me, MSNBC found its footing initially as potentially a liberal or centrist outfit and then became quite liberal indeed.