 the issue over which you'd be willing to lose. If you had to give up your career, what is it that would make you give up your career? And as ambitious as people are, they usually do have some line, something they won't do. Do you think J.D. Vance has a line? I think he walked across it. I think he told us in advance what it was. It was Donald Trump, and he walked across it. David Frum is a senior editor at The Atlantic. Thank you so much for speaking with us today. Thank you.