 The people who are not responsible for securing the place are telling the people who are securing the place that the guy is there. And it took several minutes. One police officer went up there to confront him. I guess the guy pulled the gun on him. So he went to a defensive posture, which I guess, according to one reporter this morning, he might have fallen back off the ladder. Why is there a ladder on a roof? A hundred and something yards. You know, the distance is amazing because the distance originally was 400 yards, 300 yards. Now it's 170 yards. That is not far away.