 If you're not dazzling the crowd, you ain't doing nothing. You gotta be different. You have to have something that's gonna make the people remember you. I would see gams inside the room. We call them gams, you know, affectionately. Gams would be inside the room, inside of the control room, and I'd be sitting across from Mr. Hunt in the studio room. And they had, like, serious chemistry between themselves.