 so-called shock women's results you know it it's a lot of depth in the women's game right now and so for emma navarro um she's been in the mix for for quite some time and i think always playing a fellow american makes it makes it tougher in a way makes it more pressure for the higher seed and i think we saw that with coco yesterday well fair to say then i i need to ask you about this um you know lulu sun from new zealand with that great performance uh knocking out raducano did that shock you