 But first, we've asked Howard Dean to come back on to talk with us about what's next. He's a former Vermont governor, a former chair of the Democratic National Committee, and a former presidential candidate himself. Governor, welcome back. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me on. So three weeks ago, you and I spoke, and you told us you weren't sold on the idea that Biden should leave the race. Let's listen. I think I'd hang in there. It would be incredibly ugly to try to change nominees now. So what are your thoughts now, Governor?