 So you were supposed to leave yesterday evening or last night? Yes, yes. Ben Bergman is a journalist with Business Insider, and he's been speaking to the BBC's Stephen Molan. Well, it's being called the largest IT outage in history, and I bet few people had heard of CrowdStrike, but indeed they have certainly heard of it now, and this is not what the company had in mind. And this is a company that is supposed to be protecting systems all around the world.