 success when you don't lose your family that is success and to survive and to win this war it will be that will be a real success for us now just back to the big news conference which started late it was advertised first at 5 30 then they pushed to 6 30. didn't get underway to like an hour later it was late and we got angry joe we got indignant joe we got finger wedding wagging joe we got joe with his new crutch face the idea that you would suggest