 when we get in a room together, even if we're just playing quietly and structuring a song or working on it, I can hear what Trey's doing with his kick drum, I can hear what's going on with the snare, I can hear Billy emoting a vocal, or if we're just playing a riff, not even thinking about structuring a song or anything, we're just playing a riff, there's a certain feel to it, if you play it enough in a room together,