 Good defensive catcher. He's from Venezuela. And he was signed by the Phillies back in 2015. And when they signed him, he had come up as a shortstop. And they converted him to a catcher. Not the first position player they've converted to a catcher. Pitch on the way to Rafael Marchand. And that'll miss inside. You think about Carlos Ruiz. And when the Phillies signed him out of Panama back in the late 90s, he was a second baseman. He had a pretty good career behind the plate. Sure did.