 interact with people because at the time i was working from home i was freelancer um and i i missed talking to people i missed uh seeing other people's artistic uh expression and things like that um and now it's grown into what it is and it's my baby and it dominates everything i love that but you said you were a freelancer what were you doing before graphic design were you on a different side of art or you were you were making a living as an artist before i was making a living as an artist well done well done yes a moment hold for applause