 in somebody's life i mean they are the ones who are the best performers but they're also the ones who go through things like depression and these battles with anxiety whatever may be well in and you know that uh... it's not just performers and at least it's us yeah i mean that that's the key to it and cat and i just keep going back to kevin lee because he's been such a friend through this all all the way through the festival at canonsburg and all we uh...