 I'm Kim Marston. You're listening to What's Working. I'm on a Zoom call with Brandon Smith. He's the author of the book called The Author vs. Editor Dilemma. I'm sitting across from Wills Moore. He runs a company called Agilitas Human Resources Consulting. We're talking about the lessons taught in Brandon's book, The Author vs. the Editor Dilemma. And Brandon, you told me, I feel like in one of the earlier segments,