 yeah so so you know it's really really hard to say you know we didn't we don't have that information and maybe it was presented to the jury i suspect the circumstances as best as they knew them was submitted but you know it's fairly complicated litigation they have to hire handwriting experts and and uh you know there's a lot of difficult things you got to go through all the process of a jury trial and you put it in the hands of a jury you know the whole decision comes down to what this jury says