 they went back and forth for like maybe another 30 seconds and then their food came and i i checked out of that conversation pretty much but yeah it shocked me but i like that gardening analogy because that that makes more sense that you're going to have more room to kind of wiggle when things go awry yeah i don't know i don't know about that mom dealing with her kid but like i only think about my parenting roughly 80 of the time all day long so yeah yeah yeah