 You have Biden, who has spent millions of dollars on a campaign, but Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg and Gavin Newsom, perhaps others, they're only a point behind Joe Biden. And Biden and the rest of these folks would lose against Donald Trump. And the point that Tapper is making is why not get someone out there that is more younger, that is more vibrant, because they're polling closely to Joe Biden. So why not switch it out?