 But then there was somebody else stabbing her with it every chance they got. Buddy, that's where a lot of people give in. A lot of people, if it was just between them and Jesus, they'd do okay. But the other Christians, but the other church members keep stabbing them with it. Sometimes they don't even mean to. Sometimes just the presence of that person reminds you of that thing. And I guess in a manner of speaking, you stab yourself again every time you see them.