 He was talking about polls, and he said we don't need to pay any attention to polls. He gave three reasons. Number one is that the independent voter isn't going to pay attention to any. First of all, they're not going to answer their phone, and these are all phone polls. They're not going to participate, but they're not going to pay any attention to the polls or what's going on until after both conventions. He said don't look at any polls until September. The number two reason, which really clicked with me, was this.