 So if Jason Stark doesn't know the answer to a question, then you know it's a pretty off-the-wall one. I'd be very curious who ran Bobby more than anybody else. I never even thought about something like that. I'm tempted to say Bill Hahn just because I remember one ejection from Bill Hahn was really upsetting to me. But realistically, I think Joe West is probably a favorite. They pretty much had both each other's entire careers. Bob Davidson might be up there.