 I mean, I'll never, I mean, grandchildren, sons, daughter, I mean, you know, it's like we can walk them along and they're doing a good job. As soon as you let go, I'm going to sit down, pop down on that diaper, bang, I'm down. But if you'll take one hand, they seem to do it just fine. And then you kind of start opening your fingers a little bit until you get to the point to where you're not even holding them and they don't realize it. So in other words, he's saying, don't be afraid to take a step of faith.