 before everything got started, and one of them would be in conditioning practice. But I would come in in the morning to get ready for morning practice, band was there. I would leave to go to lunch after our first practice, band was there. I would come back after lunch and get ready for the third practice, band was there. So you say what you want to. Those kids put in a lot of time, a lot of effort to do what they do, and I definitely learned to respect that.