 hold that lever for Democrats without thinking for a long time. But as I started moving, I was listening a lot to Rush. My father-in-law was a Rush Limbaugh fan, and he was also the first black man I ever met who called himself a Republican. And that really was what started me on my journey to conservatism, all those discussions. But I was listening to Rush Limbaugh in my dad's car, in my father-in-law's car. I didn't want to change the radio station.