 those types of deals and I think that's one of the things with Shane and what he's trying to really tell folks is that you know a lot of the lumps that we took last year wasn't on 11 bad but these players are understanding that this is the type of practicing that we need to have having Debo Debo Williams here guy who led the SEC and tackles like you know for him he has to have a certain standard but also bringing some guys along with you and that's the biggest thing and also being young and dumb helps too because the more you can get these young guys to kind of buy in the more you start to realize man I'm not supposed to be flying this high