 on the phone, she lived in Seattle and I did not. So I had to call her and have a conversation with her. And there's a pattern that goes on and I'm waiting to see if that's the case here, where I would tell her, ask her something and she would give me an answer and then turn right around and a minute later, go over the same exact thing. And a minute later, say the same exact thing. She forgot that she just said what she said.