 When they described these butt dials and when the two of the witnesses talked about how they made these butt dials, I didn't find their words credible at all. They were not describing the words. There was too much contradiction in what they said if you break down and look at their words as to how they made these butt dials and what they were doing at the time of these butt dials. That wasn't convincing testimony to me either. And then finally, Trooper Michael Proctor, in his testimony, he let slip...