 And he stayed with radio and television. And that's the other thing. That's the last thing I'll mention about Lou Dobbs. And if you want to comment, you can. 646-720-0635. There are so many people that are great on television, and then they try to make that transition to radio, and they can't do it. Can't pull it off. The best example that comes to mind is Joe Scarborough. But there's hundreds of others.