 conversation with cooper that's a cooper listen here we are we just finished hiking with you 1.8 miles we climbed approximately 350 feet in elevation between the air and the water here in this part of the allegheny mountains i'm not sure which is fresher it's a great day uh what a great hike we had with you so thank you very much for that we really appreciate it 12 waterfalls i believe we passed it's such an unusual seasonal climate we didn't expect that so expand on that for our listeners around the country about a little bit of what we experienced