 Phil loved jazz guitars. So in the guitar section, he would have my father, Barney Kessel, Bill Pittman, Carol Kaye, Howard Roberts, and a few others. Phil could be hard to get along with for many, but my father seemed to be able to deal with him in his own way. Here's my father talking about his first time working with Phil. It was the first time I'd been hearing Phil Spector's name with all the guys. I didn't know anything about him. All I know is that we worked for him. So I went on this job. It was like group 30.