 And so he was a conscientious objector and tried to get out of going to World War I. I'm pretty sure it was. No, it might have been World War II. I forget which one it was. But anyway, he was a conscientious objector and refused to go at first. And they made him go, or he agreed to go if he didn't, you know, carry a rifle and actually shoot anybody. And they persecuted him, and they persecuted him pretty bad and really put him down and