 Before Putin took over, Gorbachev was there and how they were people from intelligence. But the educational system in Russia since the 80s has been really, really down. But then in addition, all of the people who have left Russia, the fighting age males who have left Russia to not be a part of this. And he's like, you know, they have some real long term concerns when it comes to what does Russia look like in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, as far as stuff like that goes. Have you ever heard anything like that?