 And Oral said it. Oral said it. Go into every man's world. We just want to visit it. We want to visit it. Ruth, it's a good point. Hold on. Let me interject here for a moment. And Mary, to that point, there has been a raging controversy over the past week or so about the party platform. Christians very dejected because they lost the culture. I mean, that's the reality of it. They lost culture.