 you know, going to the press, saying things. You haven't seen any stories about Kamala secretly pulling together donors, figuring out the strategy. Even a call like this, I mean, one wonders how difficult of a position that must be. It's been reported by The New York Times and then also by The Wall Street Journal in the last hour that this call that the vice president is on, that began at 3 o'clock Eastern, was one that the president's team