 You want to present somebody that's not affected by things. You compartmentalize it and say, I'm tougher than that. But this is something that affects them psychologically. It's like people who have a heart attack, especially men. They feel vulnerable. They feel like they're not as strong as they thought they were. And a lot of times depression sets in just because they didn't think something like this would ever happen to them. Right. Well, I'll put it presently. They don't ever get some help.