 going through that to get into the corn and not you know and it works so and i know some people have taken fishing line 20 pound test line and put it you know three strings around their garden deer can't see it they bump into it and then they get confused and back up and do all kinds of things so that's a possibility too but that motion detector still is pretty darn effective oh yeah and that way i mean it's easy too you know as far as to put out and