 And he did a brilliant job with it. I saw him in an interview. I believe it was Jay Leno. It was one of those late night shows. And this is when he was running the first time. So this would have been 08, I guess. And Jay Leno said to him, or whoever it was, they said, what about you and Hillary Clinton teaming up and having a Clinton-Obama or Obama-Clinton? He goes, well, the first name on that ticket really matters. What if Michelle Obama said the same thing? What if she's like...