 He said, you're kidding me. So anyway, he picks up the phone. Sure enough, Ted's down doing it. I think he just completed sound check down at Municipal Auditorium back when that was the concert venue in town. And he said, hey, yeah, here, deer season's opening up. And I want you to come down and just come down and hang out. So sure enough, Dave went, hung out with him backstage, talked hunting. He went to talk hunting with him. That's cool.