 than biden when everyone in his party was telling him to step aside uh but she's not doing i mean i think she's about at the same level as where joe biden was before that disastrous debate in june and the big question brian is whether she's got the campaign skills as you can run a good operation to move those numbers in her direction that that's what campaigns are for and we'll see how she performs the next right uh so the big news yesterday is this cut 15