 close to the same size but a little bit how do you say richer in a nice way they're more fluent cities higher property tax that was what our consultant did he that was the struggle that he had was uh because we're unique very unique he said that's one of the things the struggles you have because you're a city and you're surrounded by rural area uh 60 68 000 um there's there's really there's no apple to apple for you because what about johnson city i've heard that band-aid about a little