 A lot. Occasionally. And he doesn't want to be that. He doesn't want to be thought of as that. He knows you can't win in the SEC like that. And so I think he feels like this is the best defense he's had. And then they're excited about what Nico can do on offense. I bumped into him in the hallway. And he was saying some more things. And he was telling me how great East Tennessee is. And I'm like, no.