 you see a lot there but the thing i'll say this is that the last one we had that turned into a work session i listened that day when my show was over and the some of the city council that could stay they were interviewing or not interviewing they were talking to department heads and there was a gentleman there and rick you'll appreciate this there was a gentleman there they were talking to about roads and it was either councilman donnell or councilman dodd i think it was councilman dodd he said look i want to fix these streets i want to get this in there i want to fix these streets