 helpful for them you know it's either self-soothing or it's you know it engages their mind in a different way or their body in a different way but sometimes when especially you know when you try to start monetizing that or you know profiting from that in some way you take on a business element and it takes on another side that can become stressful and so then your art becomes you know part of your business and it can be it can take on another level that no longer serves you in the same way and so