 At the knees, 0-2. You know, that decision to go to Japan for Michaelis, I mean, clearly it was beneficial for his career. But that's a decision he actually made with his wife on their honeymoon. Interesting. Imagine going on your honeymoon and saying, what do you think about moving to Japan? 0-2. And he missed with a breaking ball. That one's skipping in the dirt. Turned out to be a great decision, I hope, both ways. Yeah, she wound up being about as much of a celebrity as he did over there. She...