 from the US-led effort called the Ukrainian Contact Group that Secretary Austin, Defense Secretary Austin, set up and has run admirably, and he has really made that a success. The Pentagon bristled a few weeks ago when another reporter asked him about the US giving up the command of this, as was suggested by some and others in NATO. No, this is a US-led... Well, the problem is, NATO allies are concerned about the shift to the right among elections in France and elsewhere,