 they're sometimes the ones who get there. And it's worth celebrating because teams do on social media point out, hey, break out the champagne, here's a piece of cake because this guy just hit 10 years. It's no small feat. No, and like you said, especially with the roster churn today, I mean, there's so many guys, they struggle just to get to arbitration. Well, the 30-, 31-, 32-year-old guys, I don't want to call them a dinosaur just yet, but if you ask for too much money in that spot, you're not going to get it.