 tactics-driven show, if you are a leader of any sort, and perhaps we'll get into parenting trends, which is also discussed in the book, this is going to be good. The book is titled The Author vs. Editor Dilemma. I'm sitting online with the author, Brandon Smith, and across from me is Wills Moore, who uses the book in his executive coaching. You're listening to What's Working. I'm Cam Marston. You're in for a good one. We'll be right back.