 It's really trial and error. I mean, they've, you know, again, made the changes, put in place the meetings, and then kind of because I have the chance to work with them on an ongoing basis, we come back and debrief after a session. How did it go? You know, what did they do wrong? I think going back to the very beginning of this, you can't be specific enough with what your expectations are. So it takes some time and practice.