 to see kind of what was coming up. But then I found out about expressive arts, which encompasses so many different creative modalities and integrates them. And it's less about diagnosing and seeing what's going on with a person through their art as much as giving them tools and resources and allows them to make meaning of it versus like a clinical aspect of it. That's such an interesting approach. Let's dive more into this when we come back. Yeah, absolutely.