 that our young people or our children really gravitate towards or really like and appreciate and who can also fulfill the role of being an authoritative figure that can speak into their life and that they can share things with that they wouldn't with us. And youth pastors are great resources for this. Our youth pastor at our church, his name is Peter. He will go and watch my son's volleyball games. He takes him out for meals. He hangs out with him and he never really divulges anything that they talk about. But I will say so.