 the muted microphone was powerful. Like the fact that it was just dead silence and there was, he kept, he was looking for note cards that weren't there. That's, that's Oron's point about 1960. You know, the famous trope about that debate is those who listened on radio thought Nixon went overwhelmingly. And those who watched on TV with Nixon's five o'clock shadow and nervous tension thought Kennedy won. That's exactly, that's exactly what Oron was just talking about. The side by side, as you said from the beginning, from the very jump was devastating and unrecoverable.