 quite your idea of like a traditional franchise player but he's clearly their best player he is sort of a not every year all-star type player but an all-star caliber player that can really shoot that has improved in the past couple of years in terms of how he's held up defensively in terms of how he's been able to create shots just for himself and you know he's really found himself as a player in Utah and I think a lot of teams around the league can look at that guy and say all right like