 but it's a story that will be, I don't know, well-received is the right word, but Americans will be interested to hear it, I think. He has a lot to say about how he was treated at the hands of Americans for journalism. So let's delve into this, Scott. You said a couple of times now that he was essentially imprisoned and is being punished for journalism, and I think that's a distinction that really separates where people fall on this issue. So you have