 reluctant leader shtick that that is actually i think trump did a really good job with that last night if you saw at the end of the debate he's like listen i don't need to be doing this and joe if you weren't so bad i wouldn't be running for president to be honest i have all these properties of all these hotels i'd be doing other things all around the world i think that's true but michelle obama being a reluctant leader like give me a break the only reason she said that is because when joe when uh barack was first running for president she came out and she gave her um