 and it around the whole black lives matter thing and and and where people were getting their information and and how biased they were about it um and candace owens has a part in that story you know so that was interesting and um i had no idea who she was when i first heard her but so i you know we were in lockdowns and i took a lot of hikes around my neighborhood because that's pretty much all i can do and i was listening to joe rogan podcast and jordan peterson podcast and then i