 2001 and 2011 in that 10-year span we lost 2.7 million jobs to the chinese and a lot of those jobs were ohio factory jobs so i think he is the person that has the background and the story to be able to tell sell it to the american people because he's lived it yeah those are all great points but john a billion dollars is a lot of money uh do you have any thoughts on ben carson as we're going to talk to him in a minute