 accepted Christ probably 40 years ago, a pastor actually encouraged him to stay in the rock and roll business to be a witness to others. And I'm not saying anything that isn't out there publicly, but he was, as we were golfing, we were talking about that and the uniqueness of that and how many people within the industry he has talked with. And I'm not going to use the person's name that he shared with me, but he said he was talking to one, uh,