 showing up in support in New York. But it's all about getting elected president. I actually don't care that much who the vice president is because Trump's ultimately going to govern. It might be him. We have two guests here to debate whether or not those two people should be the vice presidential pick. Kingsley Wilson is here, digital media manager for Center for Renewing America, and John Phillips, host of The John Phillips Show on KABC in Los Angeles. Kingsley, John, thanks for being here, both of you. Kingsley, we'll start with you. Who do you like to be VP?