 And the way I'm really nerdy at the most is I like learning old ways of doing things. It doesn't mean that that's the best way. It doesn't mean that that's going to have the best results. There's just a certain satisfaction I have of taking it back to a simpler way. Or sometimes it's a more complex way. I'll be honest. Sometimes it's not as simple. But it's an older way that brings it to the origin of the process.