 yeah this debate was kind of like the movie trope device where they're taking the old person in the wheelchair and kind of wheeling them down the hill into the street in front of the bus to get rid of them like oh just you know we we have a fun ride for you grandpa just uh just look at the clouds or whatever it was a set it was kind of a setup right like a hit i mean i i i have to tell you it was so if again you have to understand their goal