 And the world is in chaos precisely as a consequence of that. So even if Joe Biden were swapped out, it would actually be the same thing in terms of the substance of the policies. So on style and substance, it's a disaster. And we'll see if the American people connect those dots in November. Ben Weingarten, very well said. Thank you so much. Unfortunately, Donna Jackson wasn't able to join us again. We couldn't get her comms up. But thank you, Ben, for staying with us. Thank you. Thanks for having me.