 And most of my friends are engineers or they're in computer science, physics, whatever it is they do. One's a heart surgeon. And so they all do different things. But there's an inherent desire with all those people to try and be great at what you do. Whether you actually achieve that or not is something different, but it's the desire. And because you're surrounded by that all the time. I don't know that it gave me the skills to be a journalist.