 to try to get a handle on the number of encounters that Border Patrol agents are having down there. And even on that, it didn't seem like he got his footing because Trump was just hammering him on the bigger issue of what is happening at the border and what he says has happened under his watch. So, you know, a couple weeks ago when we covered that story and that big announcement from the White House, there was certainly a political framing to it, and it didn't even seem like there was any benefit that played out tonight on the debate stage for the president.