 around it okay all right to keep it in place basically makes sense actually the thought of it sounds good you know when you have a bad back you're like ah you know it's funny you say that because it is so relieving it's it sounds like it would be right is not painful it's not like we're putting people on a torture device it feels good while you're doing it you feel good instantly when you get up so um i highly recommend people come give it a try that's so important and