 And the thing I like about him is he's constantly looking for new things to learn. And I'm doing the same thing. I'm always looking for the next thing to learn. Things pop out. You would think I would have heard years ago or even decades ago. And I find out I didn't know about them. That's so wonderful, actually, to me that I don't know about it because that means I've got something new to learn. I don't know it all.