 There's nothing I can spray on the top, organic, that's going to do anything. A lot of the pesticides available at stores, like Seven, it's not going to do anything because they're on the outside. So for leaf miners, if you happen to have an elm, you'll almost have to go with either Orkine, which is the classic oil spray, or with the neomagetroid, depending on what everything is labeled for. I hate doing it. I hate doing it. Stop.