 And Phil Jackson showed them a lot of disrespect. But you've got to give Phil Jackson his due. Listen, Phil Jackson is one of the greats. We were having this discussion earlier, Jay. Greatest coach walking the face of the earth, is it Phil Jackson? Is it Joe Torre? Is it Nick Saban? And I don't think you can argue and be wrong if you said any of those. So, no, absolutely Phil Jackson rebuilt the Lakers in everything. I covered the Lakers. I was there at the forum. I've been to crypto. I know exactly what you're talking about.