 And his name was Hal Neal. Hal Neal went to Leonard Goldenson and said, listen, if you let me run the radio division, I will clean it up and you will never have another problem. And he did. The ABC AM and FM stations under Hal Neal were the cleanest radio stations in America. You couldn't meet with a record promoter. You couldn't take lunch from a record promoter. You could have nothing to do with the record industry.