 There have been times when I've come home and said, you know, Gene, I think we need to spend 15 minutes and let the kids go play. And she'll say, who did you interview with today? That's true. That is true. So I can say, well, Dr. Kevin Lehman had that great idea. But you've worked with lots of families, Kevin, and you have noticed the ways kids work their parents. Now, I've never experienced that. Have you, John? Oh, golly. Yeah.