 products on the planet. So it starts with the people. Wait a minute. I thought you were in the manufacturing business, but it sounds like you're in the people business. That's the way it has to be with every business. A lot of business owners don't think of it that way. And that's a huge mistake. You're not working by yourself. If it's a business of any scale, you have people you rely on. You have to start with the people. How about that? Anastasia, how about you? Was this a waste of your time or did you get anything out of the conversation?