لكن عندما كنت على الهاتف معه , أسأل لماذا كان سيفعل هذه الجراحة -- كانت هذه عملية جراحية عالية الخطر -- كان جوابه ، فى دولته , هؤلاء الأطفال سيعاملون معاملة سيئة للغاية , ولذا كان عليه القيام بذلك .
But when I was on the phone with him,  asking why he was going to do this surgery --  this was a very high-risk surgery --  his answer was that, in this other nation,  these children were going to be treated very badly, and so he had to do this.