This is the reason, for example, why something like climate change is such a serious problem, because It's two of these life-support systems, our planet and our civilization, kind of butting up against each other; they're in conflict, and we need to negotiate that boundary.
Det er grunden til, for eksempel, hvorfor noget som klimaforandring er sådan et seriøst problem, fordi det er to af de systemer, vores planet og vores civilisation, som ligesom gnider op ad hinanden; de er i konflikt, og vi har brug for at naviger den grænse.