CA: Well, Richard, when I was starting off in business, I knew nothing about it and I also was sort of -- I thought that business people were supposed to just be ruthless and that that was the only way you could have a chance of succeeding.
ک ا: خب، ریچارد، من وقتی وارد کسب و کار می‎شدم هیچی درباره‎اش نمی‎دانستم و  خب یکجورهایی هم-- فکر می‎کردم که صاحبان تجارت قرار بود فقط بی‎رحم باشند و آن تنها طریقی بود که  می‎شد به موفقیت رسید.