(Laughter) And it occurred to me that people didn't really enjoy getting hurt, and that maybe the reason that we weren't flying yet is that we were still attached to that false idea that we would fly the way birds do, or butterflies.
(خنده) و متوجه شدم کسی واقعا از صدمه دیدن لذتی نمی‌برد، و این شاید علت پرواز نکردن ماست علت اینکه هنوز به آن ایده غلط چسبیده‌ایم که باید پروازی مثل پرنده‌ها یا پروانه‌ها، داشته باشیم.