Historian Roy Haines stresses the lack of evidence for any earlier relationship, while Paul Doherty argues that there is no evidence for them having been closely involved before December 1325, although he suspects that they may have been friends by 1323.
O historiador Roy Haines resaltou a falta de evidencia de calquera relación anterior, mentres que Paul Doherty opinou que non existe evidencia de que estean involucrados antes de decembro de 1325, aínda que sospeitou que puideron ser amigos antes de 1323.