من سرپرست یک دانشکده در کالج بودم که بازی درس میدادم، خب یه نوعی شغل واقعی بود، کارم این بود که درباره ساختن حرف بزنم، بجای اینکه واقعا بسازم. 
I was the head of a college department teaching games, so, again, it was sort of a real job, and now I got to talk about making them as opposed to making them. 