اما اگر ما توانايي رسيدن به ايده چگونگي نگاه به دورتر را داشتيم -- چراکه چيزهاي بيشتري حتی وجود دارد، و آن چيزي است كه من خيلي روی اون كارم انجام ميدهم، و اون گسترش فن آوري است که ما بتونیم بوسیله آن به خيلي قبلتر نگاه كنيم قبلتر از وقتي كه ستاره ها و كهكشانها بوجود آيند، برگشت به زماني كه كيهان داغ، چگال و متفاوت بود. 
But if we were capable to come up with an idea of how to look even further -- there's some things even further, and that was what I did in a lot of my work, was to develop the techniques -- we could look out back to even earlier epochs before there were stars and before there were galaxies, back to when the universe was hot and dense and very different. 