



  1. Blue Eyed Devil

    Blue Eyed Devil Active Member

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    anyone can make a mistake and I've never seen this reported anywhere else.
  2. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

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    Teams have been able to carry over cap room every year there has been a cap. Before the new CBA, they did it by exploiting the LTBE loophole. The new CBA made it possible just by sending the league a letter --

    (v) Carrying Over Room. A Club may “carry over” Room from one League Year to the following League Year by submitting notice in writing signed by the owner to the NFL no later than fourteen (14) days prior to the start of the next League Year indicating the maximum amount of Room that the Club wishes to carry over. The NFL shall promptly provide a copy of any such notice to the NFLPA. The amount of Room carried over will be adjusted downward based on the final Room available after the year-end reconciliation.
  3. Blue Eyed Devil

    Blue Eyed Devil Active Member

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    That's crazy. Is the amount limited in any way? If a team has 60 million in cap space one year can they carry the whole thing over and just buy every free agent they want to build an uber-team?
  4. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

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    That would be legal, if a team could manage to do it.

    Of course, if we did it, the league probably would punish us for upsetting the league's competitive balance.
  5. TwentyOne

    TwentyOne Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Adam.
  6. esmith1790

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    This is an ADAM question but i am sure others are just as smart.

    I see lots of contract breakdowns since the recent signings.

    I see some have a big signing bonus, like 5 million plus. THen i see that the 1st year is fully guaranteed.

    So my question is, if a veteran is on the roster week #1, his salary is guaranteed for the year anyways right?

    I also serious doubt they would cut a player before the start of the week#1 if they just gave a huge signing bonus to.

    So be default wouldnt the 1st year salaray be fully guaranteed no matter what? Why state the obvious is my question.

    just might as well say that ROMO's and WARE's contract is guaranteed for 2012 also. Not like the cowboys are going to cut them this season.
  7. cowboyjoe

    cowboyjoe Well-Known Member

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    Then, I am confused Adam, way back I remember reading best I remember that the Skins, 49ers were over the cap by so much like in November and December and they had to adjust to get under later.

    So, why werent those teams punished for being over?

    I think at one time I read somewhere to the Giants were over to sometime during the season and they had to adjust to get under the cap, but these teams didnt get under the cap that day they were over, but later.

    Why werent they punished for competitive imbalance?
  8. cowboyjoe

    cowboyjoe Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree Adam about the league trying to punish us if we did that. Cotton Picking John Mara, I cant wait till his team gets in trouble. As old saying what goes around comes around, or what you dish out, most of the time comes back to you in spades.

    I bet if the Skins GM one day gets to be Head Chairman of the Competition Committee that the Giants will get punished some way one day.

    Got another question for someone, as you know the competition committee best I read, voted without a vote for all teams owners or GMs. Isnt Stephen Jones on that competition committee? Couldnt he have called for a vote by all teams?

    Or was this also done without the whole competition committee being there, just John Mara pushing it down DeSmith face on NFLPA, and whimp noodle Goodell agreed to this:

    Oh, im starting to get ticked off again. :bang2:
  9. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

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    The Skins and 49ers were never close to the cap in November or December.

    The league won't approve contracts if they would put a team over the cap. At most, a team might be able to sign a player, then have until the end of the next business day at the league office to make a move to put them under the cap. There are certain instances when cutting a player might temporarily put a team over the cap, and the team is given seven days to get under the cap, but the team can't sign anyone until it is under the cap -- not even someone to replace the player who was cut.

    Teams can be over a future cap before that league year begins. So, for example, the Raiders and Cardinals could be over this year's cap before the league year began. They had to cut players or restructure contracts to get under the cap before the league year began, however.
  10. Blue Eyed Devil

    Blue Eyed Devil Active Member

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    So Adam, what are we looking like in 2013? These new contracts seem to be a lot heavier in 2013 plus we have the restructued contracts pushing back money and aren't Romo's, Ware's, and Austin's contracts going to jump next year?

    I'm glad we're getting a lot of new players but have we mortgaged next year's free agency period to get them?
  11. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    I got a question Adam.

    I know you originally thought it best to push the NFL "fine" into 2013, but if the Cowboys decided to add as much cap room in 2012 by basic restructuring (Ware, Romo, etc) and extending Spencer and possibly others. Would it be possible to have the NFL to go and subtract the rest of the "fine" this year so that they could have it off the books in 2013? Or with the ability to push money into next year anyway is that moot?
  12. cowboyjoe

    cowboyjoe Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Adam, not I understand. :)
  13. Wulfman

    Wulfman Unofficial GM

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    Adam will certainly correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's a moot point specifically because the $5 mil could get carried forward to next year's cap anyway. By not doing it now, though, they leave themselves the leeway of using those resources this year, should it become necessary due to injury or because they want to do one of those mid-year extensions (Jason Witten, for example).

    I am also pretty sure I read that the decision has already been made to go $5 mil in each year, and my guess is that it's on the books at the league office that way. If that's the case, it likely wouldn't be subject to change.
  14. Temo

    Temo Active Member

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    Well the new CBA has minimum spending limits.
  15. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

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    The minimum spending requirements for individual teams are only for the combined spending during two four-year periods -- 2013-2016 and 2017-2020. It would be easy for a team to vastly underspend for a year or two, then go crazy one year. I'm not sure whether that team would gain an advantage in the long run, however.
  16. Gregory

    Gregory New Member

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    you the best ;) Adam
  17. Temo

    Temo Active Member

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  18. Wulfman

    Wulfman Unofficial GM

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    Adam, as of the last official number I saw, there were still some contracts that hadn't been figured into the cap space. Can we get an update about what the actual number is now that they appear to be looking forward towards the draft, please?

  19. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

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    As of today, we are $2,164,189 under the cap. We will gain an additional $6.016 million in cap room on June 2, when Terence Newman's base salary disappears.

    Here are the current cap numbers for every player --

    [B]TOP 51[/B]
    DeMarcus Ware		$10,301,693 
    Anthony Spencer		$8,856,000 (tender)
    Tony Romo		$8,060,503 
    Jason Witten		$5,500,000 
    Jay Ratliff		$5,291,044 
    Doug Free		$4,220,000 
    Brandon Carr		$3,200,000 
    Orlando Scandrick	$2,980,000 
    Tyron Smith		$2,840,022 
    Miles Austin		$2,721,000 
    Dez Bryant		$2,703,500 
    Marcus Spears		$2,700,000 
    Kenyon Coleman		$2,345,000 
    Dan Connor		$2,150,000 
    Jason Hatcher		$2,100,000 
    Kyle Orton		$1,900,000 
    Felix Jones		$1,884,500 
    Mackenzy Bernadeau	$1,812,500 
    Gerald Sensabaugh	$1,800,000 
    Nate Livings		$1,700,000 
    Mike Jenkins		$1,672,000 
    Sean Lee		$1,350,000 
    Brodney Pool		$1,200,000 
    Bruce Carter		$1,103,318 
    L.P. Ladouceur		$985,000 
    Lawrence Vickers	$900,000 
    Stephen McGee		$748,000 
    Victor Butler		$739,635 
    DeMarco Murray		$675,781 
    Kevin Ogletree		$640,000 
    David Arkin		$598,400 
    John Phillips		$584,564 
    Sean Lissemore		$552,150 
    Josh Price-Brent	$551,887 
    Barry Church		$544,000 
    Phil Costa		$544,000 
    Danny McCray		$541,668 
    Baraka Atkins		$540,000 
    Clifton Geathers	$540,000 (tender)
    Jeremy Parnell		$540,000 (tender)
    C.J. Wilson		$540,000 
    Bill Nagy		$476,475 
    Dwayne Harris		$475,000 
    Shaun Chapas		$472,000 
    Kevin Kowalski		$466,666 
    Dan Bailey		$465,833 
    Alex Albright		$465,500 
    Phillip Tanner		$465,500 
    Andre Holmes		$465,000 
    Chris Jones		$465,000 
    Isaiah Greenhouse	$465,000 
    [B]CURRENT PLAYERS OUTSIDE TOP 51 (base salary does not count against cap during offseason)[/B]
    Mana Silva		$465,000 
    Mario Butler		$390,000 
    Rob Callaway		$390,000 
    Kai Forbath		$390,000 
    Orie Lemon		$390,000 
    Raymond Radway		$390,000 
    Brashton Satele		$390,000 
    Justin Taplin-Ross	$390,000 
    Teddy Williams		$390,000 
    Roy Williams		$8,750,000 
    Terence Newman		$8,016,000 (reduces to $2 million on June 2)
    Leonard Davis		$4,166,670 
    Marc Colombo		$4,050,000 
    Marion Barber		$4,000,000 
    Andre Gurode		$1,666,670 
    Kyle Kosier		$1,400,000 
    Igor Olshansky		$1,200,000 
    Jon Kitna		$1,000,000 
    Keith Brooking		$800,000 
    Akwasi Owusu-Ansah	$225,262 
    Josh Thomas		$144,600 
    Brandon Williams	$116,000 
    Dwayne Harris		$82,545 
    Sam Young		$55,250 
    Shaun Chapas		$42,639 
    David Buehler		$37,125 
    Travis Bright		$6,000 
    Jose Acuna		$4,334 
    Lyle Leong		$4,000 
    Mario Butler		$3,334 
    Chris Gronkowski	$3,334 
    Chris Randle		$3,334 
    Orie Lemon		$2,000 
    Laupepa Letuli		$2,000 
    Zack Eskridge		$1,667 
    Corey Adams		$1,334 

    Adjusted team salary cap: $133,786,426
    Current total used: $131,622,237
    Cap room: $2,164,189

    Total dead money: $35,784,098 (will drop to $29,768,098 on June 2)

  20. skinsscalper

    skinsscalper Well-Known Member

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    Wow! 36 million in dead money this season (well, 29.7 after June). Holy crap! Next season we'll feel like we won the lottery!

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