

Navy stealth bomber drone  (Source: IBtimes)
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RE: unmanned bombers
By PorreKaj on 2/10/2011 4:04:23 PM , Rating: 0
Are you saying threat is necessary to keep peace?


RE: unmanned bombers
By dgingeri on 2/10/2011 5:07:31 PM , Rating: 3
Think about it. go into a rough bar and look for the biggest, strongest guy in the bar. Nobody messes with him because they know they'd get their butt beat in. Strength and power are the biggest means for peace. Once in a while someone else bigger might come along, but that's not often, and it is not going to happen to us.

The biggest threat we have to worry about is China, and they wouldn't dare attack us because their whole economy is based on us. They attack, their whole economy collapses, our economy will hurt, but it will get better in the long run, they lose. Nobody else comes close. With these unmanned stealth bombers, it gets a whole lot less likely.

RE: unmanned bombers
By headbox on 2/10/11, Rating: 0
RE: unmanned bombers
By kingius on 2/11/2011 7:32:32 AM , Rating: 1
Peace is built upon mutual understanding and cooperation. People do not attack the big man in the bar and because he is /not/ threatening them... I repeat because he is NOT THREATENING he is instead acting himself in a peaceful manner.

The idea that it is force, that creates peace, is one of the most foolish ideas in the history of mankind and continues to lead us down the path of poisonous paranoia.

RE: unmanned bombers
you really have no concept of human behavior, do you?







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We achieve great things in life through cooperation


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RE: unmanned bombers
By nafhan on 2/10/2011 5:17:05 PM , Rating: 3
You say BULL, but I don't see a suggested alternative. What's your idea? Ask everyone to be nice to each other?

RE: unmanned bombers
By kingius on 2/11/11, Rating: 0
RE: unmanned bombers
By Manch on 2/11/2011 8:49:53 AM , Rating: 3
there is no security at the end of a gun..

There is if you're the one holding it.

RE: unmanned bombers
By kingius on 2/11/2011 10:44:17 AM , Rating: 2
That's a fallacy.

At the earliest opportunity, the person you are coercing through force will attempt to reverse the nature of that very relationship _because_ of the one sided nature of it.

To understand this, you have to put yourself in the position of someone who is being coerced against their will, at gun point. You will not like it, nor the person doing it to you. You will seek fairness and justice and perhaps revenge.

If you want to live in a world where you don't have to watch your back, you have to wake up to the fact that aggressive actions lead to more, further aggressive actions back at you. There is no safety in such a world, no peaceful cooperation, no mutual respect, instead there is something more akin to barbarism.

RE: unmanned bombers
By nafhan on 2/11/2011 11:13:59 AM , Rating: 2
If the weapon is for security and being used in such manner, then without the weapon you'd already be at the wrong end of the relationship, and the fact that the nature of the relationship may get reversed is irrelevant. Your argument only applies to purely offensive actions, not "security".
Also, how do you propose to keep people from engaging in aggressive actions (or convince them, I guess, since no weapons/force allowed)?

RE: unmanned bombers
By Manch on 2/11/2011 2:35:23 PM , Rating: 3
Not a fallacy, reality.

I have a gun. I dont go around coercing people. I have some for hunting and others for defense/detterence. Sad fact of the matter is their are people in the world who will take from others who can't or aren't willing to defend themselves. We live in a world where you need to watch your back. Wether you're talking about an a community, a state, or a nation, there are people outside and within willing to take regardless of the consequences to themselves or others. Having weapons for the purpose of detterence does not make one a bully, it just makes you prepared and keeps them in check.

Having a gun doesnt make me aggressive. Breaking into my house, or trying to harm me or my family makes me aggressive. Fortunately, I've never had to shoot anybody, and I dread the day if it ever comes. If I have to choose between them or my family, they'll be at bad end of my gun.

If you want to live in a world where you don't have to watch your back, you have to wake up to the fact that detterence prevents aggressive actions that could lead to more further aggressive actions. If someone realizes they can take from you whatever they want, whats to stop them from continuing to take from you?

RE: unmanned bombers
By SPOOFE on 2/12/2011 7:34:13 PM , Rating: 2

If you're dealing with a person who will attack you at the earliest opportunity if you're NOT pointing a gun at him, pointing a gun at him may be the only way to prevent a fight. We must also be prepared to accept that there may be NO way to prevent a fight.


That's why Japan is our bitter, bitter enemy and would never consider being one of our best allies and trading partners, right?


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