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foundations of what made us great and that's belief in god. it doesn't matter necessarily religion, but a belief in god and they're brilliant because what they try to do is pit different religions against each other, no nativity scene because you're offending the muslim and-- >> carol roth? >> i don't see this as a religious issue and i'm jewish and can speak on the issue, i love the christmas holiday, what are you going to do take santa out of the mall? as americans we embrace the season as a season of cheer and that the atheists here should-- first of all, if they took it away they'd be so sad, they'd have nothing to argue against. stuart: and what i object to one atheist objects and everybody has to accommodate them. tough. and president obama is sending the treasury secretary to argue about the fiscal cliff. and we talk to a reasonable democrat, why the president doesn't just lead. plus, a major incentive to buying the house, the mortgage interest deduction, it costs the federal government a lot of money, that deduction is on the table in those talks, got it? next. you know how

. the constitution promises freedom of religion. not freedom from religion. when we heard about santa monica, 59 consecutive years, we said we had to get involved. we have this project called the nativity project. we encourage individual citizens to get a permit. we found a loophole, incredible loophole in santa monica and there is going to be a nativity display there for year 60. the federal judge banned unattended displays. not live nativities like you see here. so december 8, christians and people of good will from all across southern california are coming to passion sides park and there will be a nativity scene. i have here our permit. we had this in front of the united states supreme court yesterday. this is our permit. i would encourage anyone who is having a problem in their community, with nativity scenes, if we are allowed to have a display in front of the united states supreme court and the united states capitol, then any citizen can display the beauty of christmas, the power of christmas, the wonderful message of hope and we're work with pastor dole right now. >> gretchen: so pastor d

a live one. >> the constitution promises freedom of religion not freedom from religion. >> you have 100 mosques in new york city, you could build it three blocks away. >> it's 30 degrees but that baby is wrapped in a electric baseball. >> i want to let in this country 200 gramy irish mep a year. >> "wall street journamarijuana. >> some republicans are so bummed they don't want to live in america anymore. >> the race between barack obama and -- >> romney lost. >> damn it. >> the silver tour teaches seniors the benefits of medical marijuana. >> watch cheech & chong travel to mexico to watch them pick up the first van made entirely of marijuana. >> they are so daysed and confused they haven't been able to decide. >> take a toke, baby, eat a magic brow ni. it just fits so well into the seen area lifestyle. >> three, two, one. >> some of that last segment i thought maybe they had to liven everything up for me. >> 51% now favor the legalization of marijuana. >> okay. >> is it one hump or two humps? >> it's a two humper. >> let's get right to our panel now. goldie taylor is an msnbc contributo

from religion and society of free thinkers who represent a small percentage of the population get airtime? >> bob: if you have this setting and has blackberry on it disrupts. somebody does. and listen, free thinkers. think about the name, free thinkers. the free thinking here, they send a letter from the teachers home to everybody's parents and said you can go. you don't to go if you don't want to go. we'd like to have the opportunity to go and see a production. who are the people doing. get a life. go buy a barge. >> brian: everybody at the table agrees. i'm given a layup. >> dana: nothing unites americans like charlie brown. >> brian: no kidding. get the table fractured like it belongs going to scene of bill o'reilly's show based on true story. involving the governor of rhode island lincoln chaffey who decides to call at it holiday tree not a christmas tree. here is a little interaction. >> the polls show 90% of americans celebrate christmas, and they want to call at it christmas tree. you are in the minority. you are imposing your will. >> i don't make anybody happy. >> i know.

of every race, creed and religion is an insat i can't believe government spending machine. they are not tackling so much what we heard in the campaign. i believe that political venge is a terrible way to leave the country and good policy and setting goals and taking bold action. anyone elected to office has a responsibility to weigh the evidence and we must hold them to the standard worthy of their office. in 2004, it was the democrats that wrung their hands. george bush had won reelection with a higher popular vote . increased republican majority in the house and senate. first time a president did that since fdr. yet the democrats won the house in 2006, presidency and house and senate in 2008. there are wild swings from one election to the next and will be again. so don't go wobbly instead go boldly forward to explain why you are right. because i believe you are. [ applause ] all right. instead of working with congress face to face to save the economy. president obama is trying to gets had way by doing what he does best. campaigning and making speeches about the fiscal cl

. >> the romney campaign made two mistakes in terms of polling. the one was they had this almost religion thought that the young voters, minority voters would not turn out. one thing we didn't talk about enough during the election is a lot of people really like barack obama, particularly among the youth and minority voters and a lot of white voters as well really like barack obama. so they missed that. they seemed to think voting in '08 was an aberration and a fluke. that was a wrong assumption. the second thing they missed was a lot of polls, even some of the polls nbc did showed republican enthusiasm was a little higher than democratic enthusiasm in some states. the campaign took that to mean the democrats weren't going to turn out. some tea partiers were really excited but a lot of democrats were just as excited. >> right. karen, into today's "new york times" timothy egan writes, if you believe in climate change, finding a path to citizenship for millions of hard working hispanics, and the right to marry the person you love, there is no place in the republican party of 2012 for you. when you t

religion you make of the situation in egypt and the dangers it could turn into an islamist state? >> the bottom line in egypt is it's bad for the egyptian in their political future. probably not as bad for the long-term interests of the united states. anytime a leader like morsi puts himself above the judiciary, that's not a good sign to democracy. anytime you put that language in there, it's not good for their democracy. it's troubling not only for egypt but for the long-term events in syria where things are more polarised because of the violence there and the possibility of an islamist state there. but the more encouraging news is the brotherhood has shown they can behave a little more. >> the brotherhood of which morsi was a member of. >> and when he first came in they called to ban alcohol but they didn't because of tourist dollars. and to segregate beaches and they didn't do it bus they were concerned about the economic realities. they need western aid. and the the gaza conflict. they behaved responsibly and tried to bring things to a conclusion. there is evidence that while

, creed and religion is an insatiable government spending machine whose leaders aren't tack-- and the leaders aren't tackling the hard truth that we heard so much about in the campaign. i believe that political revenge is a terrible way to lead the country. good policy is made by dealing in fact, setting goals, and taking gold action. anyone elected to office has a way to weigh the evidence and explain the votes and hold them to the standard worthy of their offices. remember n2004, the democrats were wringing their hands and george w. bush won with a higher popular vote total than in 2000 and he had increased the republican majorities in the house, and the senate. the first time a president had done that since fdr. and yet, the democrats came back to win the house in 2006. the presidency, the house and the senate in 2008. and there have been wild swings from one election to the next and there will be again, but don't go wobbly now, instead, go boldly forward to explain why you are right because i believe you are (applause) >> thanks, all right. instead of working with congr

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