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Ford Explorer 2



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RE: This is good?
By chucky2 on 3/29/2012 12:49:44 PM , Rating: 2
OK? They will require AWD for the 3.5L TT EB. A "4x4" Explorer Limited with the most expensive package (which will likely get it into BMW territory) puts the Explorer at 46000. That's with the normal 3.5L V-6. Now add on the TT EB cost, and the rest of the Sport package cost. You'll be closer to $50k than $40k.

The x5d is $56k.

Unless you are right on the edge, anyone who is dropping $50k for a Ford should be able to 'stretch' and make $56k for a BMW. I'm a Ford guy, from a Ford household, and I know which I'd rather be driving...

RE: This is good?
By Reclaimer77 on 3/29/2012 1:43:07 PM , Rating: 2
LMAO! $56k BASE MSRP. Meaning absolutely NO options or accessories. In reality that vehicle doesn't exist. I've never heard of a BMW dealership stocking a BASE model vehicle with no options. And people certainly don't crawl over themselves to buy them.

You're trying to compare a bone stock BMW that doesn't exist in the wild to a Explorer with a ton of options and packages stacked on? Yeah that's really fair. Let's see what happens to your "$56K" BMW once we do the same...

Hmm an $83k X5d is what I put together. With typical packages and options etc etc that you would find on on a showroom.

RE: This is good?
By chucky2 on 3/29/2012 2:50:09 PM , Rating: 2
That's awesome that you loaded out an x5d. Now load out an Explorer and x5d as equally as possible. Now tack on for the 3.5L TT EB in the Explorer. Now the extras in the Sport package. Now realize you're driving a Ford Explorer when you could be driving a BMW x5d for just a few thousand more. (be sure to factor in free maintenance while under warranty for the BMW)

Now go to sell it, and see how much more you get for the BMW than the Ford.

Now go cry you got the Ford...

The End.

RE: This is good?
By Reclaimer77 on 3/29/2012 4:21:23 PM , Rating: 2
I'm sorry but where in the hell do you see me saying the Explorer is the better vehicle? Or a better buy than a BMW? I wasn't aware that was the argument I was making. Why are you bringing up resale value into this as well? Wtf man, that has NOTHING to do with this.

Now go cry you got the Ford...

See wtf are you talking about with this kind of thing? Stop trolling and LISTEN.

My point, and Spuke's, is they really are NOT directly comparable. One is a diesel and a more expensive (regardless of what you think), the other is not. The "Sport" is already a top trim level model, according to Ford. Sorry but there is NO WAY you can get an equivalent X5d for just a "few" thousand more.

RE: This is good?
By Spuke on 3/29/2012 4:22:22 PM , Rating: 2
The Sport is going to be the top model in the range and the expected base price is $40k. The current Limited model starts at $38k. A loaded Limited is $50k so a good guess for a loaded Sport would be $52-$53k. A BASE X5d costs $56k. A loaded one is in the $80k range. NO ONE buys a stripped BMW. No such car exists as Rec mentioned. BMW shoppers don't crosshop to Ford generally (although the Boss 302 does get crosshopped with the M3).

RE: This is good?
By chucky2 on 3/29/2012 6:48:23 PM , Rating: 2
They are mostly comparable in that they're the same size, have power engines, and given the Eco in EcoBoost, supposedly 'green'. That they'll also be in the same ballpark in price is just more justification for comparing them.

If you can afford to drop $53k on a Ford Explorer Sport, you can afford to drop $58-$62k on a BMW x5d. Are those two rides comparable in features? The Sport isn't out yet, so we don't really know.

I'm betting they're pretty darn close in features. Unless one is scraping buy just to get the Sport, you'd have to be insane to get the Ford over the BMW.

<---longtime Ford owner, will continue to buy Ford (hard to beat A plan + incentives)

RE: This is good?
By Reclaimer77 on 3/29/2012 8:06:01 PM , Rating: 1
Okay I'm trying not to sound frustrated, but sir, I cannot even find newly USED X5d's for less than $50k. You are low-balling the cost of the BMW seriously. And why? Just to make a tenuous point?

I guess everyone should buy BMW's and nobody should buy anything else? If you can afford a V6 Accord, you can buy a 3 Series. If you can get a 350Z, you can buy an Z4 Roadster. Etc etc. Like seriously?

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