note zentara I'm with you, it's nice to know what goes on behind the scenes, and it only happens when you write your own code. <i><b>BUT</i></b> should we all be writing Assembly language code? After all, to really learn, you need to do it all yourself. <p>'s best to happily stand on the shoulders of the giants who preceded us...... and avoid sweating the details unless necessary. <!-- Node text goes above. Div tags should contain sig only --> <div class="pmsig"><div class="pmsig-131741"> <hr /> I'm not really a human, but I play one on earth <a href =>My Petition to the Great Cosmic Conciousness</a> </div></div> 752257 752257