The Meaning of Life - What's Yours?


Ultimate Meaning



Sustainablity - Our Environment

Personal Happiness and Contentment - Is that the ultimate goal?








































What are your thoughts?









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Ian - thanks for sharing your experience - it really helps to hear first hand what people go through in life - it can help with anxiety and fears about things we don't know about - which aren't the answers to the great questions of science or philosophy but they do have a great meaning to our lives personally.

I like your style - meaning and morals - making it up as we go along - that's pretty much what I've done so far, not having much guidance on the matter from parents - although I'm probably on auto pilot with most of it...
Melanie - I like your post - I agree with you. If you want to travel the world quite cheaply you can do things like WWOOFing - willing workers on organic farms - or try those house swap and house sitting websites - you're welcome to stay with us if you come this way - Melbourne Australia - we've got a room and bed for you... I've done a bit of travelling and I really enjoyed it - although I get tired after about 3 months and want to settle down again and have some place to call home. Asia is cheap to travel - and live in terms of food accommodation and local travel.

I was afraid of death quite strongly for most of my 20's - but I'm better now and I'm happier about my life now and so don't think about it so much... :)

Do you think there is much more to life than those issues?

Our environment
Personal Happiness
Dr Kellie - I used to suffer really bad PMS - but since changing my diet I'm heaps better - I cut right down on carbs and sugar - and mainly eat meat, fish, eggs and vegetables - lots of raw veg - salads and good oils - olive oil, cold pressed coconut, butter - totally avoid soy products and canola oil, and started taking a pro biotic - anyway it really did wonders for me and I'm really quite the same right through the month now.
I don't suffer from PMS, I was just being silly.  But many thanks for the good will:)
Well that's a relief - glad to hear it - sorry to be so anxious and serious about it - but it was a real problem for me for years and so I always like to mention that in case it' of help to others - because there are so many who do suffer - I wonder also if it's more prevalent in long term vegan and vegetarians - as I was...
Vitomama - not having a guinness - perhaps that's my problem! LOL

The earth will take care care of itself - meaning that life will go on and thrive without humans - as human's are now getting the most they can out of the world, so does all life - and so I'm not concerned about if life will go on. You've probably seen that show about what would happen if all humans died today. I think it was only 50 years before most cities would be covered with plants and unrecognisable to us. This issue for the environment for us is to save it for us, not for itself. In a way I feel quite confident that we'll slow down and adapt before we die out because of it - although we will die out at some point - but I tend to think that it will be something more sudden that we can't adapt to such as asteroid hit or extreme weather - too hot or cold... but pockets will probably remain for a while yet I would say - when you think about how long the dinosaurs lasted on earth - but then again they didn't exploit the earth to the extent that we are with our technology - so who knows perhaps we are accelerating our life as a race to a quicker end.

Sure - we are all the centre of our lives...

I enjoyed painting as a teenager - but didn't keep it up - I have dreams of being an amazing artists one day - LOL - it's not going to happen if I don't do anything about it - when my kids leave home or get older I think i'd like to set up a studio somewhere and let it all out and hopefully create something beautiful enough that others will also appreciate and want to own it...
Alysn - I found that there are many men in Atheist chat rooms and when I've brought up touchy feely topics before - or any sort of feelings I've been trounced - It's been good in a way because I've eradicated a lot of supernatural thinking from my dialogue - but at the same time, I got to a point when I wanted to have more interaction with women due to their more feeling nature - which I have been perhaps missing. It's all good - I'm not complaining at all - more just observing how different people have different influences on me.

Alysn - I really don't know if 'men' changed their view points after discussing things with me - I suppose it's not really a valid concept as such lumping all men together like that - I would say that we all have an influence on each other and that some of the men I've spoken to liked what I said and some didn't.  It's a bit of a taboo subject - as it brings up things such as sexism, stereotyping and political correctness.


I think that it's useful to be able to sometimes just get something off your chest - in that it's not about truth, it's about expressing your frustrations in the way that they are coming up - and if it turns out to be false allegations - then perhaps you wouldn't have been able to identify them and change them if you hadn't spoken your mind to someone openly with the trust that they would want to help you find the truth of the matter, rather than feel the need to punish you for expressing an untruth.

I agree, I can't dispel my own ignorance if I'm not able to speak freely about what I feel and think - even if it's incorrect, offensive or largely skewed by my over emotionality on a topic...  I think it's all about the intention of wanting to know the truth and being open to hearing that things are different to how we might imagine...
I find people are quite backward in coming forward with this stuff...  it takes courage to express your true beliefs publicly with the knowledge that you might be wrong and risk ridicule...  we all fear rejection.
John D - thanks for clearing that up re selfish genes and anthropomorphizing them - because I had been confused about that since being told about it 20 years ago... it makes sense that genes aren't actually driven as such - but is a good metaphor and being careful not to anthropomorphise them.
John D - pantheist - is that about nature having it's own mind? Well not that I know much about this - but I did read one book on consciousness - so as far as I can work out our 'mind' is just something that we call consciousness - which is a collection of our thoughts - that aren't connected as such - therefore isn't it also plausible that nature as a whole might have a 'mind'? Or not? A friend told me about a show he saw about plants that are communicated with each other through their roots - he's not a flower fairy guy - so I trust that there was a good science behind the idea...


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