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michael moore, thank you again for joining my tonight for a very lively hour as always. >> thank you. >> you can take action. you do have a voice. do something. make your voice known. that's ten years before we failed to find chemical weapons in iraq, bashir al assad is using weapons in syria. tonight you're going to hear from the roommate of a campus killer. he came face to face, eye to eye. he lived to tell about it. possibly prevent the murder of other students. plus, congresswoman michele bachmann, now she claimed that president obama's wasting your money on his lavish lifestyle. where exactly is she getting her information? where are her facts? we tracked her down today and asked her and wait until you see how she responded.
times. i think the white house needs to be prepared. white house seems to be more cautious today. where do they stand on all of this? >> reporter: anderson, white house officials say they are still assessing reports that chemical weapons are used so cautious is the right word. we know that the president has said the use of chemical weapons, as you say, is a red line. he's gone further and said that if assad crosses it there will be, quote, consequences. he has said you will be held accountable. today his chief of staff said on cnn that it would be a game changer if, in fact, chemical weapons were used. now the president has not specified what he means exactly when he says assad or his regime would be held accountable. there have been reports that the u.s. has developed a plan for direct action against syria, but there's no indication the president is pursuant. let's be realistic. it's hard to imagine that the
u.s. would take any direction action to syria when the president is visiting the neighborhood here in israel in less than 24 hours, anderson. >> marine one has just landed at andrews air force base. there you see it happening. again, the president will surely be getting on air force one heading toward israel. jessica, the president as you said is in the region. it does add pressure to the president's trip, particularly in israel if, in fact, chemical weapons have been used in neighboring syria. >> reporter: absolutely. syria was always going to be a part of the discussion while he's here, but now it threatens to overshadow the other issues. certainly it thrusts syria front and center into the top of the agenda. israelis are focused on this because of the desperation of the assad regime has made them very aware of the fact that chemical weapons used is a threat to israelis and their stability for a number of
reasons, because it's so close, as you pointed out, share the border. the use of chemical weapons in syria could threaten some israelis. it threatens refugees. it's also a very real challenge for jordan and that will be the president's next stop after he spends a couple of days here in israel. jordan has already taken in many thousands of syrian refugees and would no doubt face the need to take in many more. >> jessica, stick around as we continue to watch images of marine one having just landed, the guards getting off and the president about to come in. i want to bring in bob baron and fran townsend. fran served as homeland security advisor. she currently sits on the cia external committee. if we take diane feinstein that there's been a high probability that weapons have been used and they'll take action, what does
that action look like? a simple airstrike wouldn't be enough, would it? training forces just across the border in jordan because we understood there are known to be about four dozen chemical weapons. that underscores the mag any today of this problem. the president presumably will want to put a coalition together.
it will take a lot of people to be able to do this effectively. it will require air assets but it will also require ground forces. >> bob, obviously a lot of viewers when they hear the idea that there may be chemical weapons, a, obviously there's a lot of concern. there will be a lot of skepticism based on what happened in iraq. how does anyone know that chemical weapons have been used? how do you verify 100% that they have been used? >> there are western groups around aleppo where these weapons have been used. they'll be able to send evidence out in the next couple of days. the traces of this on the skin will be obvious. doctors will know what they're looking at. they'll figure out what kind it was. i think it was a fairly light chemical weapon, maybe chlorine. early reports are saying this. so i think we'll know pretty sure in the next two or three days. people will be taken out to turkey and the rest of it. i think diane feinstein is absolutely right. if these weapons were used we've crossed the threshold. syria is completely a mess now,
chaotic. the resistance groups, opposition are broken up into little pieces. you have al qaeda there. we simply cannot let it happen that al qaeda gets these weapons or that the regime turns them loose on the cities. something is going to happen very soon. >> bob, why can't you just bomb these sites? >> they're saying they're in tai dozen sites. you can't just bomb them. they may bomb israel. as diane feinstein said, these people are desperate. the regime, more and more cities are falling in areas and as we've said all along, they will use these things and something has to happen. you also have to look at syria has become a proxy war for iran, russia, saudi arabia and turkey. everybody is pouring arms into the country.
you know, the situation cannot continue as it is without running into a catastrophe with it involving chemical weapons. what happens? they each carry little yellow packs that allow them several hours of air so they could get to a safe, clean site. but you would have taken them while they are on the plane through a complete drill about what to expect and what the safety and decontamination procedures would be. certainly that's what i would have done when i was in the white house.
i presume that's what they are doing tonight on the plane. >> dianne feinstein said i think the probabilities are high we are going into dark times. the assad regime said the rebels used chemical weapons. the rebels say the assad regime has used them. each side has incentive to accuse the other of using the weapons. how do you prove who actually used them? >> well, that's the whole b problem. the intelligence is awful on syria. we are not in touch with the groups that are fighting. we are in touch with the exiles, not the regime. neither side can be blamed. but once the chemical weapons come out that's the beginning of chaos and there is no choice. put a blockade on the country. stop weapons from going in. don't let the artillery be deployed. you can check this from the air. you can counter it. anything to prevent, you know, especially saran from being used would put this in another realm. >> the rebels say they don't
have the capability of using chemical weapons. do you buy that? >> i do. but what you really worry about is the assad regime loading chemical weapons onto a missile. we have seen them recently bomb inside lebanon. you can understand all of the neighbors are rightly concerned that the regime itself has the capability to load this onto a missile. no reason to think that the rebels do have the capability, but you worry about if they were inclined to try and use the chemical weapon that you put it with an explosive and you get some aerosolization with the weapon if you put it together with even a crude explosion. there is less concern if it's the rebels and certainly more concern to the neighbors if it is the regime. >> fran, can you explain again -- why can't you just bomb the sites? would that actually destroy the weapons? or does it not -- why do you
need boots on the ground? troops on the ground? >> well, the concern as you talk to people who have been involved in military planning is that an air strike, the detonation itself will take the chemical weapon and raise it up into the air and allow it to spread. it puts more civilians at risk. you want to minimize the potential for casualties and contamination. so you're better off if there is the option to try and secure the site without using air assets, you want to do that. i think that's why you have seen the training of military in the region. >> very risky operation obviously. fran, appreciate your expertise. bob as well as we see the president about to take off for israel. jessica yellin is there and will be reporting for us from there. thank you. let us know what you think if the syrian regime has used the weapons. what do you think the u.s. should do? let's talk about it on twitter during the commercial break @andersoncooper.
up next, new video of police rushing a campus that could have become a vast killing ground. and we'll talk to the would be killer's roommate. he talks about how the first real eye to eye contact he made with his roommate may have been his last on earth. his roommate had a rifle staring right at him. that's the potential gunman who ended up killing himself. >> reporter: later spring may be coming. winter is not going. we'll show you who's getting hit h and why there could be more to come. we'll be right back. [ kitt ] you know what's impressive?
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committed suicide. once inside officers found his body and an arsenal of guns, ammunition and explosives along with a chilling checklist suggesting the guy was one step away from a rampage on a massive scale. the officers were there responding to a 911 call from his roommate who i spoke to today. first ed lavendera looks at what happened there. >> reporter: just after midnight on monday morning the fire alarm starts blaring inside this dormitory at the university of central florida campus. arabo bobcomi calls 911 and a looked out to find his roommate pointing a gun right at him. >> my roommate just pulled a fire alarm and he's got a gun out. >> all right. where are you at? >> i'm in the university of central florida in orlando. the fire alarm went off. i opened the door to see what was going on and he's there with, like, some sort of, like, gun, like, large assault gun.
i don't know if it's a real gun. i don't know what it is. but i just saw it and i slammed my door shut and locked it. >> all right. are you in your room now? secured in your room? >> yeah. yes. i'm in the bathroom. >> reporter: when campus police arrived at the scene they make their way to the gunman's dorm room. this might be disturbing for some to watch. police find 30-year-old james oliver sibokamaran lying dead on the floor from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. they found out he was planning a massacre. police say there were four home made guns in a backpack, multiple firearms and hundreds of rounds of ammunition. >> i don't think you acquire 210 round magazines and numerous .22 capacity magazines and purchase a thousand rounds of ammunition and the .45 -- i don't think you do that as a joke. >> reporter: investigators say they found this writing on a piece of paper laying out a timeline of what he planned to
do. scratching off items as he went down the list. the first item on his list was to go to this bar called the mad hatter across the street from the campus to first, quote, get drunk. then get equipped. take a shower and shave up. the note reads to put on youtube and instructions to pull the alarm and the last item read, "good luck and give them hell". >> there is no motive. the notes lay out a timeline. that timeline was go to mad hatter's, drink. i will try to make that available as well. but there was no specific threat in it. there was nothing like that. he just had the timeline. one of the interesting things we did find going over the evidence is as he did each thing he actually scratched them off on the list. the list stopped with pull the fire alarm. >> reporter: we don't know who he planned to target but investigators say he was acting as a lone wolf. officials at university of central florida discovered items
delivered to the campus but he never picked them up from the mail room. >> what was in the mail waiting for the deceased were two .22 round magazines that were designed for the gsg weapon that he had. there was also a blackhawk tactical sling designed to fit that particular weapon. and there was also a training dvd on proper shooting and use of lasers. >> ed lavendera is live on the campus in orlando. is the would be killer's family saying anything tonight? >> reporter: this is what's interesting, anderson. yesterday authorities here described this would be killer as a loner, someone who showed anti-social behavior. his own parents put out a short statement this afternoon saying that they wanted to be left alone, did not want to answer
more questions from the media but described their son as a, quote, loner and someone who showed no signs or had any history of violence at all. it was interesting that his own parents called him a loner as well. >> ed, i appreciate the reporting. the would be killer's roommate and campus reporter kristy john call me. >> can you take us through what happened? you heard the fire alarm, started to leave your room and what happened? >> usually when the fire alarm goes off in my apartment it's usually somebody burning something on the stove. i opened my door to see what was burning. i didn't see any smoke or anything. i just saw my roommate, james, just standing in front of me, approximately like four feet in front of me with some kind of assault rifle. he had it pointed down at the
ground but as soon as i opened the door he just made eye contact with me and started raising it towards my head. >> when he made eye contact with you, what did he look like? what was his expression? >> he just had a really cold, hard stare. >> so you guys weren't exactly friends. >> no. i lived with him -- i moved into my apartment at the beginning of fall semester, fall of 2012. you know, i have tried to get to know him and stuff. but, no, we're not friends. he's just very anti-social. he doesn't want to know me. he doesn't want to make friends. he just keeps to himself. >> so you opened your door and you see him standing there, the rifle is down and he makes eye contact with you. then what happened? >> o he instantly raised his rifle at me. before he could get it all the way up, i just slammed the door.
i was -- i was not trying to -- i was not going to let him shoot me. i slammed the door, locked it. moved away from the door in case he fired at the door. i took some cover in my room so he wouldn't, like, be able to -- the bullets wouldn't be able to penetrate anything and i just called 911. they pretty much handled it from there. >> we actually have the 911 tape. you can hear the alarm going off as you're talking to the authorities. i want to play that for our viewers. >> my roommate just pulled the fire alarm and he's got a gun out. >> all right. where are you at? >> i'm in the university of central florida. like the fire alarm went off. i opened the door to see what was going on. he's there with like some sort of like gun, like large assault gun. i don't know if it's a real gun. i don't know what it is. but i just saw it, slammed my door shut and locked it. >> are you in your room now?
secured in your room? >> yeah. yes. i'm in the bathroom right now. >> all right. >> i'm amazed how calm you sound. what was going through your mind? were you afraid he was going to, you know, shoot his way into the room? >> yeah. that was one of my concerns. i was definitely scared but i was -- scared but calm. i was just taking cover like in my room behind objects. initially the chest of drawers and then later when i moved to the bathroom just behind the cabinet. just so that if he did fire at the wall on the other side he wouldn't be able to hit me. that's part of the reason why i was able to, like, not panic so much. >> he actually wasn't enrolled in school for the semester because he failed to pay his tuition. did he seem angry because of that? >> i asked him why he's not enrolled in classes and he said
because e he signed up too late or something which i knew that was a lie but i didn't press him too much about it. i knew he was having money problems because of the whole process with him getting evicted from the apartment. he was having trouble at work, too. i think his hours got cut recently. he wasn't making a lot of money. >> do you have any idea why he might have done this? >> i think he was just in a corner. it just made for a very solitary person that, i don't know. i guess he saw suicide as an easier way out than where he was at. >> did you hear that gunshot? >> yeah. i didn't realize it was a gunshot at the time. because i was in the bathroom and he was like two rooms over. there was a fire alarm going off. but i heard like one or two pops. later i understood that was the gunshot.
>> kristy, i want to bring you in here. you have been reporting this story on campus. what's the reaction on campus to all of this? >> you know, everybody's very flustered. no one knows what to think. you know, why he would do this type of thing. so everybody's just very happy that, you know, nobody was -- else with was hurt in this. it could have been a lot worse. thank god for our hero. >> folks on campus consider bk a hero because he was able to think straight and call the authorities. >> definitely. i have several friends in tower one. they were all there at the time who could have been hurt. you know, if it wasn't for bk calling 911 and, you know, getting the police there as quick as possible. >> well, bk, it really is extraordinary how calm you were able to remain. a lot of people would have not been able to do that. thank you so much for talking to us. i'm sorry for what you have been through.
kristy as well, thanks so much for being with us. >> no b problem. >> thank you, anderson. >> lucky young man. a late winter storm has new england and the upper midwest digging out again. we'll show you who got hit hardest and where the storm is heading. and michele bachmann is saying president obama is wasting her tax dollars on his family and his dog beau. she said stuff in the past that has no facts to back it up. we wanted to ask where she got her fact this is time. we'll show you what happened when dana bash tracked her down. at od, whatever business you're in, that's the business we're in. with premium service like one of the best on-time delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatever it takes to make your business our business.
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welcome back. spring is just hours away in this half of the hemisphere but winter didn't get the memo. this is how new england is welcominging spring. more snow and a lot of it.
a late winter storm forced school closures. the upper midwest hit with another blast of winter. south isn't off the hook either. allison kosik has the latest. >> reporter: the calendar says spring but mother nature is playing by her own rules, dumping about a foot of snow in parts of new hampshire on the last day of winter. >> it's kind of fun because then you can shovel and work out. >> reporter: in concord it looked more like december than march. >> it's new england. this is what we get in new england. i'm happy. i'm leaving to go skiing on friday. >> reporter: the deep snow across the northeast is taxing on snow plows and backs. >> it's very heavy. you know, underneath, especially when you get toward the street like a puddle of water underneath everything. so it's hard to throw it. >> reporter: late winter storms are not just affecting new england. extreme weather packing a punch across the midwest leaving travellers stranded with over 500 flight cancellations from ohio to new york.
blizzard conditions in north dakota monday left cars stranded and overturned on highways. down south, parts of mississippi pummelled by golf ball-sized hail shattering car windshields. in nearby tennessee, a tornado touched down leaving signs of damage but no injuries. high winds in georgia left similar scenes of destruction. not to be outdone folks in alabama were cleaning up tuesday after severe storms knocked down trees and overturned trucks leaving thousands without power. the wild weather leaving many longing for mother nature to catch up to the calendar. >> it's spring. it should be spring already. >> i love the snow. but i'm a little done with it. >> reporter: for those who say they have had enough of this stuff, guess what. there is another storm expected next week that could make them nostalgic for this time last year when it was 81 degrees. cnn, concord, new hampshire. >> 81 degrees a year ago. amazing. more breaking news.
we have it in the 360 bulletin. >> breaking news. election news. cnn can now project that elizabeth bush, the sister of stephen colbert won the democratic prime oh hode island. there is no projection on the gop side. and the pakistani teenager shot in the head by the taliban for promoting education for girls five months ago. she lives in england now. today she went back to school for the first time since the attack. here's how she described her return to the classroom. >> i think it is the happiest moment that i'm going back to my school. today i have my books, my bag. i will learn. i will talk to my friends. i will talk to my teacher. >> an incredible young gl. an update on another recovery. interior secretary ken salazar said the statue of liberty will re-open by the fourth of july.
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welcome back. on this program we try not to take political sides. we are not a republican or democratic newscast. we believe in facts. you can find that stuff on other networks. when you're elected representatives, republicans, democrats or independents is speak they should to the best of their ability speak the truth. if not they should be held accountable. not for political views or governing philosophy but for making stuff up. tonight we are featuring michele
bachmann. tonight she raced away from our dana bash who was trying to ask her questions about remarks michele bachmann made at the conservative political action conference over the weekend. in the statements she slammed the white house reaction during the attack that killed four americans in libya last fall. >> a war was raging in benghazi for hours and all we know is that our president went awol. [ booing ] >> while cries from american diplomats and soldiers went unanswered. >> then she shifted to government spending specifically the white house budget. >> a new book is out talking about the perks and excess of the $1.4 billion a year presidency that we are paying for. this is a lifestyle that is one of excess. now we find out that there are five chefs on air force one. there are two projectionists who
operate the white house movie theater. they regularly sleep at the white house in order to be readily available in case the first family wants a really, really late show. and i don't mean to be petty here but can't they just push the play button? [ applause ] we are also the ones who are paying for someone to walk the president's dog. paying for someone to walk the president's dog. >> now a lot to talk about. keeping them honest. the benghazi killings leave room for criticism. we have been looking at a lot of facts about that. the claims of $1.4 billion in white house perks and excess, they fail on the facts in simple fairness. michele bachmann got her information from 131-page self-published book by a long-time republican lobbyist. the book provides no specific sourcing for the claims it makes.
no sourcing. according to the washington post which dug into it the only scholarly work on the subject was published in 2010 by the left leaning brookings institution. it found the bush white house in 2008 cost about $1.6 billion to run. nearly $1.1 billion of which went to the secret e service and the white house chopper fleet, not perks. if congressman michele bachmann is right -- and that's a big if -- the current occupants are cheaper. as for the five chefs, five cooks would be more like it unlike on commercial flights the lion's share of meals are prepared fresh on meal. that's a lot of cooking. as for the projectionists, nothing new there either. according to the white house museum jimmy carter watched 500 films in office. and beau the dog has no designated walker. the white house gardener walk it is dog. the guy likes dogs and has walked presidential dogs for the last eight administrations.
the notion that this is a uniquely extravagant president dies hard with michele bachmann. this is not the first time she's made claim about presidential spending without facts to back them up. here she is on this program several years ago. >> i think we know that just within a day or so the president of the united states will be taking a trip over to india that is expected to cost the taxpayers $200 million a day. he's taking 2,000 people with him. he'll be renting out over 870 rooms in india. these are five-star hotel rooms at the taj mahal palace hotel. this is the kind of over the top spending. it's a very small example, anderson. >> the white house is saying the idea that this is a $200 million boondogle is overstated, that the number is wildly inflated, those numbers. >> that may be what the white house is stating. but again we have never seen a trip at this level before, this level of excess.
>> no one knows the cost because for security reasons they don't disclose the cost so the idea that it's $200 million is simply made up. >> these are the numbers that have been coming out in the press. >> these are the numbers that have been coming out in the press. for the record, as we discovered back then and reported the story originated in a report from the news agency press trust of india. so it's an indian paper. tear source was a provincial government official who was unnamed. one single unnamed source from an indian provincial official, how that official would allegedly know how much the president of the united states and the u.s. government was spending -- i mean, it doesn't make sense. michele bachmann made other claims that do not stand up as well. namely that a top adviser to then secretary of state clinton may be under the sway of the muslim brotherhood. that drew sharp criticism at the time. republican colleagues including john mccain called her out on it publically. we invited michele bachmann to
>> the issue is there are four americans that are dead. the secretary of state was not in conversation with the secretary of defense or with the chair of the joint chiefs of staff. >> i think that's an important point. >> she was not there. >> that's important but this is another -- >> this is the president of the united states didn't care about those four americans and they were killed. that's the point. >> if you -- >> we have to focus. >> if you want to focus then why did you bring up the other things. >> dog handlers. four americans killed? >> congresswoman you brought it up. >> these americans. >> you brought it up. >> to be fair, she doesn't always answer my questions but she does usually smile and is polite. this was a bit out of character for her. >> what's e amazing about the quote is she tried to turn it against you as if, how dare you bring up a dog walker, something so petty when because of the horror of what happened in benghazi she's the one who
brought up the dog walker and the projectionists. she made the allegations and now she's saying when you ask her about it, she's trying to make you seem like an irresponsible reporter for daring to ask her about that. >> yes, she did. it takes a lot to make me speechless. i was speechless. that's not the response that i expected from her. but, you know, i have to tell you. i checked in with people who know how she operates, people who work with her on the inside. they weren't surprised about this in the big picture for many reasons. primarily the name of the game at the cpac convention which draws conservative activists is to be provocative. she knew talking about presidential dog walkers, cooks and projection operators would be memorable. they admitted her m.o. is shoot first, ask questions later. especially if she doesn't have people to advise her against muddying which was a pretty strong speech and argument about
benghazi and presidential leadership. >> also i should point out this network was the network that was blasted by the obama administration for our early reporting on benghazi and what we uncovered in the burned out wreckage in benghazi. so the idea that somehow we are not talking about benghazi is b a surd. we want to call out politicians when they say things that are untrue. with with congresswoman bachmann it's a double edged sword. she fund raises off this stuff. >> we can be transparent with viewers. we had a discussion about this. we know the more oxygen we give it the more she'll raise money off of it. this is one example of a fund-raising notice she sends out. she's one of the most active fund raising e-mail lists. is he sends out five alarm notices, sometimes more than one a day warning they have to contribute or her campaign will fall under the weight of democrats and the liberal media.
this was on a different subject. i wouldn't be surprise fd she use this is report and another tomorrow. we're doing our job. >> again, the invitation stands. she can just sit. e she doesn't have to run. we'll talk seated. >> how will i get my exercise? >> that's true. thank you very much. coming up, a story that's really outrageous. this man killed three of his classmates and in today's sentencing he had a vulgar message for the victims' relatives in the room. he had the word killer on his t-shirt. also, the mayor of kansas city was in the middle of a speech when a guy rushed the stage. he reacted to the intruder next. [ male announcer ] the 2013 chevy silverado 1500 has the best pickup coverage in america. with a new 2 year, 24,000 mile scheduled maintenance program, a 3 year, 36,000 mile,
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