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Lee Rigby Murder Suspect Michael Adebowale Appear In Court; James Cameron Takes Deepsea Challenger on Tour; Interview with Phil Jackson; Australian Sports Icon Eddie McGuire Apologizes For Racist Remarks; Syrian Peace Conference Less Likely; Huwawei Looks To Become World's Largest Smartphone Maker

Aired May 30, 2013 - 08:00:00   ET


KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong. And welcome to News Stream where news and technology meet.

Now the battle for Qusayr and the people caught in the middle of Syria's civil war.

And the baby rescued from a toilet pipe in China is out of the hospital and with family.

And how Huawei wants to transform itself from a Chinese giant to a global brand.

Now Syrian President Bashar al-Assad says his country has received the first patch of S300 surface-to-air missiles from Russia, now that's according to reports of an interview he gave to a Hezbollah TV station in Lebanon. Now Russia recently defended the arms shipment saying it would help contain the conflict.

And Moscow is criticizing the latest calls from the Syrian opposition for President al-Assad to resign. Russia's foreign minister calls that an attempt to derail planned peace talks.

Meanwhile, the UN's human rights chief is pushing for an immediate cease- fire ahead of the proposed Geneva conference. Now Ms. Pillay says there has been a colossal failure to protect civilians so far.


NAVI PILLAY, U.N. HIGH COMMISSIONER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS: Day after day, children, women and men suffer the brutality of unbridled violence and gross human rights violations by all parties. The increasing number of foreign fighters crossing Syria's borders to support one side or the other is further fueling the sectarian violence and the situation is beginning to show worrying signs of destabilizing the region as a whole.


LU STOUT: Now one place of particular concern is the city of Qusayr. The leader of Hezbollah has vowed to help Syrian soldiers defeat opposition fighters there. And the recent onslaught has trapped civilians.

Nick Paton Walsh shows us their desperate situation.


NICK PATON WALSH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Quiet here doesn't mean safety. Qusayr has been bombed for over a week, so intense they bury the dead at night during any lull in shelling. The city of 20,000 civilians encircled, activists say, by Hezbollah militants who have crossed in from Lebanon to help Syria's regime.

The injured packed into basements of ordinary homes where Dr. Qasim al-Zayn does what he can, but it's impossible work. Sometimes a wounded limb can't be treated, so instead must be cut off.

QASIM AL-ZAYN, DOCTOR (through translator): We have to amputate most of the time as we are unable to reconnect the arteries due to the high number of casualties.

WALSH: He fears a massacre here and claims four instances of chemicals being deployed in the city that caused breathing difficulties.

But in these dark rooms of victims mostly of shelling and snipers. For children who stayed put for two years of conflict here, this latest onslaught proves too much.

AL-ZAYN (through translator): The psychological states of children are terrible -- fear, wetting themselves, loss of balance, hyperactivity. They will either be wounded, die or go crazy.

WALSH: In these conditions, he says, for some death is simply a welcome release.

AL-ZAYN (through translator): Just earlier, I was treating a casualty who lost a lot of blood and arrived to us barely with a pulse. We operated on him and he's unconscious. His friends wish martyrdom for him and have been blowing into his breathing tubes for three days because we've run out of oxygen. We've started wishing some casualties just die to end their suffering.

WALSH: The battle for Qusayr is Hezbollah's opening salvo to help save the Assad regime. While the state of this town is mulled by diplomats in far away capitals as people are for now unquestionably alone.


LU STOUT: It is the story of suffering.

And Syrian rebels are pleading for help in Qusayr. Let's bring in Nick Paton Walsh now from CNN Beirut. And first, Nick, what kind of help is Damascus getting now in the form of Russian missiles?

WALSH: Well, we don't know for sure, but the claim is from President Bashar al-Assad reportedly according to Lebanese media reports of an interview he gave to Lebanese media that the S300 sophisticated missile system, supposedly for the defense of Syria from air attack, has already been delivered by Russia.

And that's, of course, what Assad would want the world to hear. It suggests that he's better equipped to defend from any potential future Israeli or unlikely NATO attack. But I have to point out, it would mean that the system had been delivered incredibly quickly. It was only about 24-48 hours since the Russians said they finally would actually make this delivery, according to what they referred to as a longstanding contract. That would mean they'd have to put them in place remarkably fast, presumably a delivery of our aircraft, Kristie.

LU STOUT: Very good point. We are, in fact, just taking Assad's word for it here.

Now in your report just then, we saw the desperate situation in Qusayr. The UN's Navi Pillay, she says the solution to Qusayr must be political. But, Nick, what are the prospects at this moment, what are the prospects for peace?

WALSH: They are slim at this point, because getting both these sides to that table in Geneva, as the U.S. and Russia so desperately want to happen, is proving increasingly difficult. Really falling apart, it seems, in the last 12 hours or so.

Two reasons. Firstly, the opposition came forward. And in their first real cohesive statement about what they wanted in terms of conditions for participating in what people refer to as Geneva II, a muted conference perhaps at some point next month that the U.S. and Russia want. They want the current head of the regime, Bashar al-Assad to not be involved in the political process. And that kind of suggests that their starting point is Assad's removal from power. That's a pretty difficult thing, I could imagine, for their other negotiating partner, the Assad regime, to accept as a precondition for talks in the first place.

And certainly the Russians have seized upon that as a suggestion that the opposition really aren't serious about talks in the first place.

We've also heard from the Syrian foreign minister his suggestion recently an interview that Bashar al-Assad is not going anywhere and will stay on for 2014 and seek perhaps even reelection then as well.

So, just as people have begun to hope we might see some daylight, just as when Damascus was saying in principle they could attend and there were signs that U.S. pressure on rebels may possibly be working, the opposition have stuck a spanner in the works and that seems to have allowed both sides to sit back into their previously entrenched positions.

And I should bear in mind, you know, this Geneva II idea was for many looking at this, many western countries, the last chance they were looking at for a negotiated solution. Some supporters of rebels saying the only move after this, they can take, is increasing support, perhaps military, to the Syrian rebels -- Kristie.

LU STOUT: Dim prospects for a last chance solution.

Nick Paton Walsh reporting for us live from CNN Beirut, thank you.

Let's turn to the United Kingdom now. And a 22-year-old man has been charged with the murder of British soldier Lee Rigby in the Woolwich district of southeast London last week. Now Michael Abebowale, he appeared at Westminster Magistrate's Court earlier this Thursday.

Frederik Pleigten is outside the court in central London. He joins us now live.

And Fred, what happened, what did you hear at the hearing?


Yeah, it was a very short hearing. The only sort of document that we have from inside are court sketches where we can see the suspect who was being arraigned earlier this morning. It was a very short hearing, as I said, all that happened is that he was brought into the court room in handcuffs. And that alone is something that's very uncommon here in courts in England, and something that really is only done if someone who is a suspect is considered a security risk inside that courtroom.

So all that happened there is he was brought inside. He was clearly having trouble walking, walking very uncomfortably. We have to keep in mind that Michael Adebowale was released from hospital just a couple of days ago, of course, after he was shot on the scene where that murder took place.

He was brought in there. He was asked his name, his residency and that also if he was aware of the charges against him, if he understood the charges against him. And he said yes to all of those things. And then the hearing was over. It look less than 10 minutes for him to then be brought out of the courtroom again.

And of course now the whole process is going to keep going. The court here is over and the whole trial has been referred to a higher court here in this country, the high criminal court here in London -- Kristie.

LU STOUT: And Fred, we've also learned the cause of the soldier's death. What can you tell us?

PLEITGEN: Well, what we're hearing from the documents here is that it's incision wounds that led to Lee Rigby's death, which of course is something that seemed to have been clear from the very beginning that it was some sort of hacking and stabbing death there.

Of course, the early videos that we got from the scene seemed to suggest that as well. Now, what we're hearing there is that that indeed was the case -- was the cause of the death.

One of the things, of course, was also left in question and was also one of the things that was at issue today is that Michael Adebowale was also charged with illegally carrying a firearm. It was identified as a Dutch made revolver, and whether or not that might have been used in the case -- in the killing as well.

It seems as though that's not the case, that it was all stabbing and hacking wounds that led to the death of Lee Rigby.

So certainly, there is some more clarity there and something that also came out as to what exactly was the cause of death as well.

LU STOUT: Yeah, and we also know that an inquest will be open on Friday.

Fred Pleitgen joining us live from London, thank you very much indeed.

You're watching News Stream. And straight ahead, home from the hospital. We will have the latest on the newborn baby found wedged in a sewer pipe in China.

And the World Health Organization says this deadly respiratory virus is spreading. Later in the show, what you need to know about this new coronavirus.

And we'll tell you how one of the world's top smartphone makers plans to get even bigger.


LU STOUT: Now, this woman in India was forced to spend nearly 20 years in jail because she couldn't afford to pay her bail. Only 160 U.S. dollars at the time.

But she is now free.

Now Fionnuala Sweeney has the incredible story of a son's love and tireless dedication.


FIONNUALA SWEENEY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Vijay Kumari spent 19 years languishing in an Indian jail despite being granted bail in 1994. She'd been imprisoned for life in 1990 on murder charges, even if Kumari had known she could walk free, she wouldn't have had the 5,000 rupees, about $160 then, needed as bond money. Kumari had no one to help her and so she stayed behind bars for almost 20 years.

VIJAY KUMARI, IN PRISON FOR 20 YEARS (through translator): No one from my family or in-laws came to my help.

SWEENEY: No one, that is, except her son Konhiya (ph). Born in jail to his mother, he had lived there until he was moved to a government run home at the age of six.

UNIDENTIIFED MALE (through translator): I was very sad. Without her, I had no one by me.

SWEENEY: Konhiya (ph) grew up with one burning desire, to make enough money to pay the court fee and free his mother. He got a job in a garment factory and worked night and day.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): He was out of work and couldn't make ends meet. He asked for a job which would provide him with some livelihood, so I got him a job in a ready made garment shop.

SWEENEY: Three weeks ago, Konhiya's (ph) wish came true, he went to court to have his mother released. Finally, mother and son could be reunited.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): I worked very, very hard to get the money that was required for the release of my mother. I'm very happy now.

SWEENEY: A happy ending to a not so happy story. But the tale doesn't end there. The actions of one lonely son have prompted the high court to take a closer look at the thousands of cases of other people behind bars in the state of Uttar Pradesh. The court has demanded a list of convicts who have been granted bail. Vijay Kumari and Konhiya's (ph) story may not be the only one that ends happily.

Fionnuala Sweeney, CNN, Atlanta.


LU STOUT: Yeah, that's such a mind boggling story.

Now to another story that had all of us shaking our heads this week. A newborn baby boy rescued from a toilet pipe in China. And today, we learned that the infant known only as Baby 59 is out of the hospital and staying with his maternal grandparents. Now police say that they are treating the incident as an accident.

Now David McKenzie is in eastern China. He joins us now live from Jinhua, that's the town where the baby was found.

And David, you were there, what have you learned -- the latest on the status of this baby boy?

DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, what we learned is quite miraculous that this Baby 59, this child that was in fact stuck in a sewage pipe in this building behind me, that he's actually doing much better, that he's recovered, according to the hospital, and gone home with this maternal grandparents.

As you say, very extraordinary story.

Firstly, the fact that this child, which was stuck and being rescued for more than two hours could make such a quick recovery is quite remarkable. The hospital say that this is in line with their policy. And the police saying that they are not going to charge the women at this stage, saying that it was a terrible accident -- Kristie.

LU STOUT: And that's what I'm trying to get my head around. Police are treating this as an accident, but how did the baby get stuck and get lodged in that toilet pipe?

MCKENZIE: Well, it seems there are two things at play here. One might be the fact that this woman was a young woman who clearly had had a relationship, but was not together with her boyfriend, felt a lot of shame and anxiety, according to her neighbors.

What happens, it appears, the police said that she had stomach pains as she had hidden the pregnancy from her parents. She panicked. Went to the bathroom. Gave birth. And then it's quite unclear. It seems like she ran to the landlady to say there's something going on, a commotion. They called the rescue services and rescued this child.

Unclear at this stage, though, what exactly was going through her head. But it is clear from her neighbors, at least, that she was very ashamed and didn't know quite how to deal with the situation.

LU STOUT: This story, it has sparked global reaction. But David what has been the reaction to this story inside China?

MCKENZIE: As both one of sympathy and blame, Kristie. Many people talking to us as well as just on social media sort of blame the mother initially. Then some level of sympathy. I think the main thrust of the feeling was that this child would be OK. Now that he is OK, maybe some soul searching about the situation in China where there is a taboo with single mothers in this country.

Often the issue with these kind of situations relates around the one child policy in China. It seems like this was in some ways more mundane, more extraordinary situation affecting ordinary people.

But now the child is safe with the parents, the grandparents. The police saying that they want privacy for all members of that family. And simply keeping it very hush, hush as to the location and what will happen next.

LU STOUT: This is an amazing story of survival and rescue. David McKenzie reporting for us live from Jinhua, China. Thank you, David.

Now I want to take you to a growing racism scandal in sports as an Australian sporting official made a comment that he will surely regret. Let's get more with World Sport's Alex Thomas -- Alex.


Eddie McGuire, one of the most famous media figures in Australia has offered to resign over a racism row involving one of the country's biggest Aussie rules football stars. Adam Goodes had a teenage girl thrown out of a game for calling him an ape from the stands. And when commenting about the incident on radio, McGuire joked that Goodes should publicize a musical based on the movie King Kong.

The former CEO of Channel 9 hasn't stopped saying sorry since.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A day after his controversial on air gaffe, an emotional Eddie McGuire was back at the microphone.

EDDIE MCGUIRE, PRESIDENT, COLLINGWOOD: I'm feeling very disappointed in myself for the pain that I've given to others. It's as simple as that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The strain of the past 24 hours clear.

MCGUIRE: It's really hard, but it's -- it's -- it was good to hear that it might be -- some were along the journey you've done something right as well, but if I'm feeling this morning, I can only imagine what Adam Goodes has felt all his life.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The Collingwood president has been busy trying to repair the damage done by yesterday's embarrassing blunder. His comments linking Swans player Adam Goodes with King Kong the Musical have caused widespread outrage.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What a great promo that is for King Kong.

MCGUIRE: Get Adam Goodes down for it do you reckon?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. I wouldn't have thought so, absolutely not.

MCGUIRE: But you can see them doing it can't you?


MCGUIRE: Goodesy.


MCGUIRE: You know with the ape thing, the whole thing. I'm just saying the pumping him up and mucking around, all that sort of stuff.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: His slip of the tongue came just days after a 13- year-old fan apologized for calling goods an ape.

MCGUIRE: I made a remark that as I said was -- I was zoned out to be perfectly honest, and I was thinking about something totally different. I'm not giving any excuses. There are no excuses. And I throw myself on the mercy, or otherwise, of fair-minded people.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That the incident has already sparked further debate about the issue of racism in Australia. The story even making headlines overseas.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The sport of Aussie rules football is engulfed in a racism row.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Collingwood star Harry O'Brien took aim at his boss, saying he lives with discrimination every day.

HARRY O'BRIEN, COLLINGWOOD PLAYER: People just don't understand how this could be offensive to -- how something that may seem like a joke or harmless can be offensive to people that have been systematically oppressed throughout the course of history.

SIMON MADDEN, FOIRMER ESSENDON PLAYER: I really believe that Eddie is not racist, but it was a real case of brain freeze and a case of please put the brain in gear before engaging mouth.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: McGuire will be dealt with under the AFL's racial and religious vilification process. He says he's willing to do what it takes to make amends, including stepping down if necessary.

Jenny Purnell, 7 News.


THOMAS: Yeah, that report from our affiliate network in Australia.

Now, racism is also high on the agenda at the current FIFA congress in Mauritius.

Insiders have told CNN that they're confident all the recommendations made by football's world governing body's new anti-racism task force will be implemented, although there has been heated debate about how severe those sanctions should be.


MOYA DODD, AFC VICE PRESIDENT: I think these things are very specific to the situation. I think it's very difficult to prejudge what particular penalty should apply in a general kind of way. What I think is most important out of all of this is that there is some genuine recognition around the world of what is racism, what is discrimination, and begin to change attitudes.


THOMAS: The Chicago Blackhawks have completed an astonishing turnaround to book their place in the NHL's Western Conference finals. Trailing their playoff series against the Red Wings 3-1, Chicago won three games on the (inaudible) including Wednesday night's encounter on their home ice.

Nicklas Hjalmarsson's goal in the third was waved off as a penalty as Carl Quincy and Brandon Saad go at it. So the score was still tied at 1-1. The Blackhawks had to wait until overtime for their comeback to be completed by that Brent Seabrook goal, his first in the post season. A 2-1 win for Chicago. They go through to a series against Stanley Cup holders the L.A. Kings next.

More in world sport in just over three-and-a-half hours time. For now, Kristie, back to you.

LU STOUT: Alex Thomas, thank you.

You're watching News Stream. And just ahead, with at least 27 people dead, we have a lot more on the virus that the World Health Organization warns poses a threat to the world.



Now this little virus has killed at least 27 people. And the World Health Organization is watching it very closely. It is the Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus. This SARS-like virus, it was first detected in Saudi Arabia in March of last year. And since then, it has killed more than half of those who have been diagnosed. And the World Health Organization warns it poses a threat to the entire world.

Now scientists don't know how it spread, nor do they have a cure.

Our senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen joins us now. And Elizabeth, so many questions. But first, should I worry about this new virus?

ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN MEDICAL CORREPSONDENT: You know, if I had been traveling in the Middle East, or if let's say my husband had been traveling in the Middle East and I came down with a fever and a cough or certainly if I got pneumonia, I would ask my doctor is it possible that this is MERS, that's the acronym for the Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome, that the new name for it. It used to be called the novel coronavirus.

Now if I hadn't been traveling to that region, or if no one close to me had been traveling to that region, I wouldn't worry about that's what it was. We're not seeing people getting sick in sort of a casual way. We're seeing people get sick, one, when they travel to the region. And number two, when they have close contact with someone who has traveled to the Middle East.

LU STOUT: Now you mentioned looking out for a cough or someone getting sick from the Middle East. Could you be more specific? You know, for those who are frequent travelers and are concerned about this new coronavirus -- and the chief of the WHO was very concerned about it -- what signs should they look out for?

COHEN: You know, unfortunately the signs are signs of many other things. It's basically a fever and a cough, other respiratory symptoms. It can look like a lot of things. Unfortunately, it can then lead to pneumonia, kidney damage, or as we've seen in more than half the cases death.

So, here's the issue, we don't want everybody who has got a fever and a cough to think oh I must have MERS. Again, think about your own travel history, or think about the travel history of people who are close to you.

And by close, I don't mean sort of the person who you, you know, sat next to on a bus recently, I mean a family member or if you're a health care worker, the patients you've been taking care of.

LU STOUT: Now, I don't want to hype this up at all, but I mean, the facts are this: it has killed more than half of those who have been diagnosed, and to confirm Elizabeth, no cure, no treatment?

COHEN: That's right, it has killed more than half who have been diagnosed, but when you take a look at the numbers you'll see why while people are concerned, they shouldn't be hysterical. There have been 49 cases worldwide, that's 49 too many. But still it's 49. We're not getting into numbers that are higher than that. And as you mentioned, more than half, 27, have died.

And you're right, there is no cure. All doctors can do is give you what's called supportive care. They can give you medicine to make you feel better, they can keep you hydrated, but they can't cure it.

LU STOUT: OK, 49 cases worldwide. What will happen next? Do you think this virus will spread? Or do you think it will eventually burn out?

COHEN: You know, it certainly is showing all signs of spreading. I mean, we haven't seen any fizzling out. But again I want to say it's not spreading, to use a sort of non-technical term, it's not spreading like wildfire. We're not seeing hundreds and hundreds of people at this point get it.

Now, an interesting note, it is possible that there are people who just sort of have a bit of a cough or a bit of a cold, and maybe they really do have MERS, but their body manages to fight it off and they'll never get reported as a case, because it's not at all severe.

But in answer to your question, it certainly doesn't show signs of stopping at this point.

LU STOUT: So, but definitely one to keep an eye and to keep close monitoring of.

Elizabeth Cohen, thank you very much indeed for your considered insight and considered analysis, always much appreciated here on News Stream.

COHEN: Of course.

LU STOUT: Now you're watching News Stream. Coming up next, can you name the world's third biggest smartphone maker, or vying for third place? Huawei is a heavyweight in China, but now the brand is looking to expand its appeal.

Also ahead...


JAMES CAMERON, FILMMAKER: Our science team are actually quite happy with the results. I wished I could have given them more in terms of samples and more dives and so on. You know, I felt we'd under performed. And the report back from them was, no, we're going to be publishing for years on this.


LU STOUT: Filmmaker James Cameron speaks exclusively to CNN about his extreme dive to the ocean floor.



Now a U.S. soldier accused of killing 16 Afghan villagers plans to plead guilty to avoid the death penalty. A lawyer for staff sergeant Robert Bales says the plea is part of a deal that still must be approved by a judge and a commanding general. The shooting took place last year in Kandahar Province.

Now police in China say a baby found trapped in a toilet pipe on Saturday is now out of the hospital and is being looked after by his maternal grandparents. Now the baby's mother says she felt stomach pains and gave birth to the baby in the toilet. Authorities are investigating the case, which is being treated as an accident.

Motorola has confirmed that it will launch a new state-of-the-art smartphone made in the USA. Now CEO Dennis Woodside made the announcement at the All Things Digital conference in California. And the new phone, it's called the Moto X, it will be made in Texas.

Now all this week on CNN, we are taking a close look at China's rise to superpower status. On Wednesday, we talked about leading Chinese electronics companies that are trying to become big global brands.

Now let's look at the battle for the smartphone market. Now Apple and Samsung, they still dominate, but two Chinese firms Huawei and ZTE are in a tight battle to take third place from South Korea's LG.

Now the research firm IDC says Huawei captured nearly 5 percent of the marketshare in the first quarter of this year.

Now I recently spoke to Richard Yu, the CEO of Huawei's consumer business group. And he says Huawei has its eyes on first place.


LU STOUT: No, it's Huawei. This YouTube clip, produced by the Chinese company, clearly shows the inability of many to simply say the name.

And yet tens of millions have bought into the brand's smartphones, turning Huawei into a mobile player vying for third behind Samsung and Apple.

At company headquarters in Shenzhen, I talked to Richard Yu, CEO of Huawei's consumer business group. He tells me he hopes to boost mobile sales big-time.

RICHARD YU, CEO, HUAWEI CONSUMER BUSINESS GROUP: Last year, we shipped out 32 million smartphone in quantity. And this year we hope we will ship 50 to 60 million smartphone worldwide. We are growing.

LU STOUT: The market priority is China, followed by Europe and Japan. But when it comes to smartphones, it's not ruling out the U.S.

In America, the name Huawei is widely regarded with suspicion. Last year, Chairman of the House intelligence committee, Representative Mike Rogers, called Huawei and other Chinese telecom firms, a threat to national security.

Lawmakers are worried that Huawei products can be used as a hidden channel for Chinese spies and hackers, a charge Huawei has denied.

Despite the trust issues, Huawei has sold, and will continue to sell phones, in America.

YU: More and more people trust Huawei. I think that, you know, the brand is the most important thing is the trust.

LU STOUT: Huawei prides itself on its investment in research and development. 70,000 of its 150,000 employees are in R&D, many to help develop its more high-end products.

Now this is one of Huawei's flagship smartphones, the Ascend P2. It has a sensitive HD display, a 13 megapixel camera. It's billed as the world's fastest 4G LTE smartphone. It retails for about $500. But are the world's consumers willing to ditch their iPhones and their Samsung devices for this?

JON RUSSELL, ASIA EDITOR, THE NEXT WEB: The (inaudible) they're not as good quality as the highest tier. The real issue is selling those devices into customers is quite difficult, because they're not aiming at people who are spending the minimum amount of money. And you're not going for the high end device.

LU STOUT: Huawei has a reputation of making smartphones that are good enough, but that's not good enough for Huawei. To upgrade its image, the company says it will bypass expensive ad campaigns and focus on innovation. And that will take time.

YU: Rome was not built in a day, but we have the ambition to want to the best product, best solution provider.

LU STOUT: Would you buy a Huawei smartphone? Well, they are good enough. But would you want to buy one? Not really. And that's the question Huawei has its designs on.


LU STOUT: Now Hauwei is well known for its low cost phones and for its latest U.S. offering, it's teaming up with the low cost retailer Wal-Mart. This is the listing for Huawei's first Windows Phone, the W1.

Now a United Nations human rights expert says the development of lethal autonomous robots needs to stop. The so-called killer robots are machines programmed to independently decide on battlefield targets and kill without human involvement. Now their potential use is being discussed by the UN in Geneva this Thursday.

Now Christof Heyns, the UN Special Rappateur on summary executions says that the robots are a threat to peace, because they can make it easier for nations to go to war. In fact, in a recent report he writes this, quote, "robots should not have the power of life and death over human beings."

And the story got us thinking about the three laws of robotics devised by the science fiction Issac Asimov. And here they are.

Number one, a robot may not injure a human being.

Number two, a robot must obey orders from human beings except when such orders go against the first law.

And then number three, a robot must protect its own existence as long as that does not conflict with the first two laws.

So lethal autonomous robotics clearly do not meet Asimov's ethical standards.

We want to leave you with one last thought, Asimov first stated these rules in a short story "Run Around," it was published back in 1942 when artificial intelligence was far more fiction than fact.

Now film director James Cameron was particularly familiar with killer robots, remember Terminator. Of course, he's also a famed deep sea explorer. And now he's trying to drum up support and funding for ocean exploration. And he spoke to our Neil Curry in this CNN exclusive.


NEIL CURRY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's all about pressure. James Cameron described it as being the force of several military tanks stacked on your thumbnail. But the deep sea Challenger submersible, and its famous occupant, survived their journey to the bottom of the Mariana Trench. Together, they reached a depth of almost 11,000 meters. And so did three wristwatches attacked to the outside of the vessel.

That's why Cameron's latest journey was to the Rolex factory in Switzerland. His fascination with the precise technology and engineering was clear.

Cameras have never been allowed in here before, but Cameron opens doors, doors to factories and, it seems, doors to scientific discovery.

CAMERON: Well, the science team are actually quite happy with the results. I wished I could have given them more in terms of samples and more dives and so on. You know, I felt we'd under performed. And the report back from them was no we're going to be publishing for years on this.

So 68 new species, including around 60 new bacterial species, never seen by science before.

We found examples of gigantism, which is as yet unexplained. Now don't imagine something 30 feet long, but if you have an animal that's normally a centimeter long suddenly this big, you know, 10, 20 times its normal size, what's it -- how do you explain that?

CURRY: Cameron believes that his expedition may ultimately help scientists to predict deep sea earthquakes and the devastating tsunamis they can produce.

CAMERON: Building technology, vehicles like the Deepsea Challenger that can get down there is a first step to, let's say, planting large instrument arrays that allow us to study the seismic swarm activity down there and maybe ultimately lead to some predictive modeling that tell us, look, we've got pressure building up here, this could be tsunami warning, everybody in the Pacific Rim get ready, brace yourselves.

I mean, we're certainly a ways off from that. But you've got to start somewhere.

CURRY: Cameron's passion for exploration is driven by a childlike curiosity. Now he hopes to spread that enthusiasm to a new generation by taking his sub on a road trip.

CAMERON: And we made science our mission. But I think ultimately the value of the sub is symbolic. And putting it on static display, touring it across the country as we're about to do in the U.S., giving access to school kids, elementary, high school, letting them come up and touch it and ask questions and just imagine, you know -- imagine the possible, you know, because that's what I was like when I was that age.

So I think inspirational dividend of this project will be its -- probably its greatest contribution.

CURRY: The sub will also descend on Capitol Hill. Legislators will be reminded that the deep sea challenge was undertaken without government funding, leaving private investors such as Rolex and National Geographic to lead the way.

CAMERON: We definitely are underfunded in ocean science right now. And I think it's going to come back to bite us in an age when we really need to understand, you know, where is the heat going to go? Where is the carbon going to go?

CURRY: So if the sub's voyage to Washington produces a little pressure on federal funding of future exploration, James Cameron won't mind one bit. He can handle pressure both underwater and on set.

CAMERON: Yeah, that's good. Like that is good. What you just did. Just started.

A lot of pressure in both. You know, in diving you have -- you literally have pressure being the main driver of your engineering. In filmmaking, you have many other drivers and physical pressure is never one of them.

CURRY: With the prospect of producing two sequels to his blockbuster movie Avatar over the next couple of years, there will be no shortage of adventure for James Cameron, and plenty of pressure.

Neil Curry, CNN, in Geneva, Switzerland.


LU STOUT: Can't wait to find out what he discovers next.

Now still to come, we will hear from one of the most successful coaches in all of sport. Phil Jackson sits down with CNN to talk about whether he will work in the NBA again, and about some of his more unusual training methods.


LU STOUT: It's time for your global forecast and to get the latest on that crippling heat wave in south Asia. Mari Ramos joins us now from the world weather center -- Mari.

MARI RAMOS, CNN WEATHER CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Kristie, crippling indeed. The problem here is, is that it's been so prolonged. They've been dealing with extreme temperatures already for almost a month across parts of India and Pakistan even. And it's really taking a toll on the power supply. It takes a toll on the water supply. It takes a toll on agriculture. And it's taking a toll on people.

The emergency services in India have already said that at least 500 people have died in the last, well, what, in the last two months, since April across Uttar Pradesh alone. That's in the northern portion of India. That's very significant.

This man that you see here is actually sleeping, trying to take a nap at the hottest part -- during the hottest part of the day. It really is such a struggle just to try to go through your day to day.

It's not as hot today in New Delhi. It's 39, 40 in Lahore. So we're looking at temperatures slightly cooler, if you want to consider this cooler.

Remember, these are temperatures in the shade. When you go out in the sun, it's going to be maybe 6 degrees hotter than that, at least. And if you're doing any kind of activity it's going to feel even worse.

So, heat is really a silent killer, because you know your body temperature goes up very quickly. If you don't have shade or water or a way to keep your body temperature down it really takes a toll, particularly in the elderly, children, or anyone working outside or anyone that may not be accustomed to this kind of extreme heat, and it is extreme.

We're still dealing with temperatures that are 6 to 8 degrees above the average for this time of year.

So until the monsoon gets here, we're really not going to see anything significant as far as any kind of relief as far as the rain from this area.

So, let me go ahead and move on here. Here we go. There you see the satellite image -- or you saw the satellite image very quickly there. These are pictures from China. We're not really expecting any rain across the subcontinent. Bangladesh is getting some rain, Sri Lanka is getting some rain. This is a picture from Chongqing in China. And what we have here is again flooding rains across this area.

We're dealing with some very warm conditions and some strong thunderstorms that pop up very, very quickly. And a lot of this is happening in this area here. Once you get the rain, the temperature cools down quite a bit. You're looking in 20 in Chongqing for example compared to 30 in Beijing. This is one of the hottest days you've had also here in a long time, only a couple of times this season so far have we seen the temperatures go above 30 degrees in Beijing. And even this late, we're still dealing with those very warm conditions.

It's 29 in Hong Kong -- kind of gives you a perspective right, hotter in Beijing than it is there in Hong Kong.

There's a little bit of cloud cover that's going to move in. It's going to maybe help a little bit with the air quality, but not much there in Beijing. And some thunderstorms should be popping up. And that's the good thing about the rain, that it really does help bring down the temperatures rather quickly over these areas. And that's why you're seeing some relief across southeast Asia and Bangladesh and back over toward Sri Lanka, as I mentioned, just a little while ago.

Very quickly to the other side of the world we go. I want to update you on Tropical Storm Barbara. That storm was a hurricane actually. It's now just a tropical depression. We're not too concerned with it anymore as it crosses from one side of the Gulf to the other. And it's still bringing some heavy rain across parts of Mexico.

Before I go, Kristie, I want to show you these pictures from the U.S. A little bit different. Look at that. If you've ever been to a baseball game -- this happened in Arlington, Texas -- you know that they have to cover the infield, at least, when it begins to rain so that it doesn't get all muddy and they can still play. They had an extremely difficult time trying to do that in this game between the -- I think it was the Texas Rangers and the Diamondbacks that were playing in Arlington.

And you can see it right there -- ooh, they were trying and trying very, very hard to do, but it was raining so hard it acted almost like a parachute. No one was hurt, fortunately.

But it's kind of funny to watch, but that rain actually very dangerous -- we have so many people -- look at that. They can't hold on to it. Grown men trying to...

LU STOUT: No, it's incredibly. I know. And I'm glad -- I'm glad that you said that no one was hurt, but watching that footage did you think is that a game of parachute that elementary school children play?

RAMOS: Exactly.

LU STOUT: But they are not having fun, no. My goodness, the poor men there, quite a scramble. At least no one was hurt. Mari Ramos, thank you for the share. Take care.

Now he is the most successful coach in the history of the NBA, but right now he doesn't have a job. Phil Jackson has won 11 NBA championships. And he sat down to discuss his career with Rachel Nichols.


RACHEL NICHOLS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: If I was going to say on a scale of 1 to 10 what are the chances Phil Jackson would be an NBA coach again, what would you say? Zero? What about scale of 1 to 10, president or general manager?

PHIL JACKSON, 11 NBA CHAMPIONSHIPS: Well, that's to be determined. I mean, who would have faith in me? I've never done it before. I mean, it really -- it would require a lot of faith to turn over an operation like that to someone who hasn't done it. But I think I can have an influence in the game there.

NICHOLS: You coached Michael Jordan, you coached Kobe Bryant, tell us what happened the first time you introduced Kobe Bryant to Michael Jordan.

JACKSON: Well, there's a small room off the corridor in Staples, which is called The Chairman's Room. And I had Michael back there to meet Kobe. Kobe came in. Michael and I were sitting there. And he sat down. And his words were, "I could beat you one-on-one, is what he said." And Michael said, "you probably can." You know he just admitted to it. You know, he just diffused it right away.

NICHOLS: Why was it important to Kobe to come in and say I can beat you one-on-one. Why do you think he said that?

JACKSON: I think he wanted to establish something right way, you know, that his prowess. And believe me, you know, he certainly had it. One of the games that Michael showed up at, I think he got six 3 pointers in the first half, just went out and, you know, like here I'm going to show you something that's int my toolbox...

NICHOLS: Like showing off for dad when he comes to the little league game, that kind of thing?

JACKSON: Yeah it was.

NICHOLS: We've heard from a lot of your former players -- from Michael, from Kobe, just your unconventional methods, you know, the burning stage around the locker room, practicing in the dark, the Lakota warrior items in the team meeting room. And a lot of them have turned out to be very successful and worked and motivated players.

What's the most unconventional thing that you did that was a complete and utter failure?

JACKSON: Oh, boy. I had a -- I had a therapist that was working with me on a situation which we have come up against Detroit. There's all this overriding thing about Detroit and their power and their ability to screw a game up into a physical confrontation. So this therapist said, my key is for you to get pencil wood and pencil, or a chopstick or something like that and put it behind the molars of your teeth and chew on it and get it firmly gripped in your jaw.

And then players look at each other and they get into this animal mode. And they start challenging each other. And...

NICHOLS: And do they all have the chopsticks?

JACKSON: Yeah, they're -- they're in that animal mode with, you know -- OK, so I gave them all I don't what it was, six or seven groups. Paired them up. They lasted about one minute and they all fell over and they laughed and they...

NICHOLS: I'm trying to picture Michael and Scottie with chopsticks in their mouth trying to growl at each other.

JACKSON: Well, I mean it's to build the energy and to build the aggressiveness, you know, that you have to build the animal whatever it is that's in you.

NICHOLS: Didn't quite work so well.

JACKSON: Well, in that situation it didn't. I dropped that one.


LU STOUT: Go figure. Incredible anecdote there. That was Rachel Nichols talking to the NBA's most successful coach Phil Jackson.

And to put Jackson's record into perspective, he has more NBA titles than 28 teams. Only the L.A. Lakers and Boston Celtics have more NBA titles than Phil Jackson.

Now feeling alone in a nation of 1.3 billion people can be tough, but for Chinese singles looking to mingle help is at hand. Up next, we go speed dating in Shanghai.


LU STOUT: Welcome back.

Now, it's the classic love story -- boy's father meets girl's father. They discuss they're children's salaries and education. They swap photos and then romance blossoms. Welcome to the world of dating in Shanghai.

Now a report from our Age of China series, Ivan Watson learns about the ever evolving language of love.


IVAN WATSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Face to face looking for love. With the help of romantic music and a matchmaking agency, single Chinese men and women participate in a round of speed dating. Each date lasts eight minutes. And then it's time to move on.

Some people here, like 22-year-old Yixin Bai say they've never been on a date before.

Have you ever had a girlfriend before?

YIXIN BAI, UNIVERSITY STUDENT: No, no. The experience is zero. So what I -- what I know today is also new to me. I think it is kind of useful.

WATSON: Welcome to Shanghai's third annual Love and Marriage Expo. More than 18,000 single people registered for this weekend long matchmaking extravaganza. Everyone we talked to here says they need help.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm -- I'm looking for a boyfriend.

WATSON: Take Mai (ph) for example. She has a good job in human resources at an international firm, but she's also under immense pressure to get married, even though she's only 26.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My father always tells me, why are you still single?

WATSON: That question is what's driving so many of these people.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: These are -- people go to this company and these are agencies. They leave their basic information here.

WATSON: Customers study boards full of single names sorted by gender into pink and blue. They list critical details like the age, height, income and education of single men and women.

Perhaps it's surprising that for a place full of so many singles, there is very little flirting here. This love convention sometimes feels like a job fair.

SONG LI, CEO, ZHENAI INC.: People tend to be very pragmatic, they're very practical. They see it as a problem to be solved.

WATSON: Son Li is the founder and CEO of one of China's largest internet matchmaking sites.

LI: In the west, people go to bars to meet people -- other people, right. And which is not -- still not very popular in China.

WATSON: Here's another difference between east and west, look around, there are an awful lot of parents at this expo.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I respect my parent's opinion. If my parents say this guy is no good, then I won't date.

WATSON: In what may be a uniquely Chinese cultural practice, some parents advertise their single sons and daughters on homemade fliers. In fact, I learned my new friend Mai (ph) did not come here alone today.

Your dad is here looking for someone for you.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He is more active than me.

WATSON: Mai's (ph) father has met another father, whose son happens to be single.

He gives her a look at a picture of his son and then takes his own photo.

Much like the rest of the country, dating in modern-day China is changing fast. Some people turn to dating game shows to break the ice, while others get a little help from dad to meet the man who may one day be their future Mr. Right.

You call him Mr. Right.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because I can't to find Mr. Perfect, right?

WATSON: Ivan Watson, CNN, Shanghai, China.


LU STOUT: It seems so awkward, but I wish them all the luck in the world.
