




Another possible avenue -- the NS4 concept

Source: Automotive News

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RE: yuck
By Reclaimer77 on 1/30/2014 4:46:44 AM , Rating: 0
Gas is going to go up again

So what, we should all drive a Prius? No thanks.

Hybrids account for only 3-4% of all vehicle sales. Obviously gas prices aren't going to break anyone's bank. Even in the UK/EU, where gasoline is godly expensive, hardly anyone is buying hybrids!

You guys are so goddamn smug. You get a few more MPG than us and suddenly you know all about everything don't you?

What's your next brilliant revelation? Maybe the price of milk, bread, clothing, housing, and commercial goods will go up too. As if the price of anything ever goes down!

RE: yuck
By Mint on 1/30/2014 5:28:35 AM , Rating: 2
Excluding light trucks and SUVs, hybrids/EVs are 7% of US car sales in 2013.

In Europe, 20% of Toyota's sales are hybrids, up from 12% in 2012:

That's not "hardly anyone".

RE: yuck
By Reclaimer77 on 1/31/2014 2:04:35 AM , Rating: 2
Way to massage the numbers lol. 20% of Toyota sales being hybrids is FAR different than saying 20% of all EU auto sales are hybrids. So yes, as a whole, hardly anyone in the US and EU are buying hybrids.

Facts are facts, sorry. At this point in time I would expect to see at least a 25% total hybrid adoption rate, if everything you people say is true.

Unless less than 10% of something is a big deal in your book.

RE: yuck
By Roffles on 1/30/2014 3:40:26 PM , Rating: 2
"You get a few more MPG than us...."

You sound like a complete lunatic with your "us vs. them" mentality. There's nothing "smug" about saving thousands of dollars on fuel every year. And it's not a "few more MPG". Compared to your average 30mpg all-motor car, it's more like 20mpg savings and compared to your average 15-20 mpg truck or SUV it's more like 30-40mpg. It's several thousands of dollars a year in savings for a lot of people. And the financial impact is compounded when gas prices go back up during the summer.

I have a 15-25mpg 420hp gas burner in the garage that I take out on the weekends. I used to take it out every day for a very short period but I quickly wised up and realized I was flushing my money down the toilet every weekday going to-and-from work on the same congested roads where the vehicle you drive is irrelevant. Ugly? Who cares!

Every time I've decide to take my sports car to work instead of my Prius, I always end up in the same old stop-and-go pattern and I always tell myself, "This miserable crawl is no-more and no-less enjoyable than in my Prius and I just spent $5 on fuel instead of my usual $1". The amount of money I save on gas every month covers 85% of the Prius monthly payment. This allows me to use both cars with hardly any discernible extra out-of-pocket expenses and the miles and depreciation (resale value) of my nicer car stays high. It's a complete win-win situation.

The only thing your bias is doing to you is hurting your checkbook. Good luck with that.

RE: yuck
By TheEquatorialSky on 1/30/2014 6:03:59 PM , Rating: 2

Buy whatever you want.

If you want an economical car, then a Prius makes rational sense. If you want a luxury car, then a BMW makes rational sense. I think that's the point being made...

