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RE[7]: The turning point
by Steven on Thu 5th Apr 2007 20:58 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: The turning point"
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If Sun wants desktop market share, this mentality of "if you want it, do it yourself" has to stop. That doesn't fly with joe blow desktop user,

What makes all you people so sure sun *wants* joe blow desktop user using their product? That doesn't help anybody, sun or otherwise. Joe Blow doesn't write software, he doesn't control the server room, and even in the odd case that he happens to be a manager... most managers don't say "I use windows 98 on my desktop, therefor we should put it on a server!" and they won't do it if they end up using solaris for whatever reason either.

This "joe blow desktop user" and "developer based unix system" combination people keep trying to make doesn't really work...

That aside, Sun deals with Solaris, not the distributions. Do you get onto Linus for not including Firefox with every copy of the linux kernel?

Or, do you bitch and moan about the fact that Free/Net/Open/DragonFlyBSD come with just the base system and make the user do the rest?

Hell, Sun is doing a lot more toward making a "complete" system than these other people do, and they don't have to. They do it because porting things like and Firefox are a pain in the butt and no normal user wants to take up that task... but it's still a waste of their developer time which *should* be going into the base system... porting of applications, installing the "newest and best" and all that nonsense you keep asking for is a job for the distributions (belenix, nexenta, martux, schillix, etc.)

That being said, it's not really something that takes more than 30 seconds to download the OSS sound drivers, install blastwave, then get any "desktop" program you might need... Firefox, audacious, etc... they are all there if you aren't a lazy slug with the "whah, find it for me!" attitude.

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