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. john: the obama school board. >> they want a 20 million bk. the close the school. john: that's less per kid and they were spending on their own schools. >> no, that is what they get. we get about 10 million. it would get 20 million. on the close our school and get these of order kids back. john: so they would get more money because the charter schools is less. >> did less. so we have for our kids. someone had to step forward. i bought the space. i am on the space. can you imagine, american indian who buys property and must elises? [laughter] john: these are called american indian charter schools because your indian. >> i am american indian. john: as of schools for indians. >> that is against the law. that's against the law. i'm not breaking the law. john: you say the open bureaucrats just want the money and will get more money as they close charters because the state pays more to their lousy schools. but there is more to it than that. you, i'm sure, broke some of the rules. you did rent them property, you hired your wife, paid her money. you say to save money. maybe it's true, but y

. the same place where president obama spoke at a service on thursday. after that there will be an interfaith service at the growing memorial on boylston street, the site where the bombs went off on monday. in the newsroom, kira klapper, abc7 news. >> thank you, kira. >>> police are saying the tsarnaev brothers used an atm carb longing to a carjacking victim before the shootout on thursday. the car owner also told police the pair admitted they bombed the marathon and killed the police officer. their father said his sons could not have planned that attack because the fbi was watching them. but fbi agents say that is not true. they did speak to the older brother, tamerlan, back in 2011 after the russians informed them he had a radical islamist, but the fbi said they found no ties to terrorists. tamerlan was killed in the shootout thursday. police tackled him after he ran out of wall let's. they say dzhokhar tried to run down the officers but hit his brother's body instead, dragging it down the block. investigators say tamerlan's body was so badly damaged by bullets, they couldn't tell which gun


. >> reporter: on the national level, the shame on the senate call from president obama, my question is did the democrats did they throw in the towel too early on gun ban. >> absolutely. there is no way in the world they should have allowed the process of the so called don't continue to talk when you get into the filibuster, it's a don't continue to talk. the democrats should have wanted a continuation of conversation even until this day on this issue. they have only benefited from an expensive dialogue on gun control in this country. >> call these guys out. >> absolutely. call them. >> reporter: would that have worked in the public ranks or would they have had a split. >> the democrats that voted against it from states where 55% of the citizens own guns and they're up for reelection. people who gun activists are passionate about the issue. people who are not gun activists, they'll vote for someone who isn't on their side. >> there are only about 5 state as, north dakota, west virginia, arkansas. >> reporter: my question would be does harry reid and the president need their vote for other i

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