Dana White vs Brendan Schaub IG drama

Discussion in 'General MMA discussion' started by Sedulous, Jul 12, 2018.

  1. Sedulous OG Heavyweight

    There's no doubt he's received a boost from Rogan and the UFC. I haven't denied that. You made it sound like Schaub was s--- and would be no where without Rogan. I contested that. But that's like saying "Carry Underwood wouldn't have been a country music star without American Idol" I think she probably would have but American Idol certainly catapulted her career much faster. There is still no denying her talent. What it feels like is you are agreeing with me now. Schaub has entertaining qualities and Rogan's exposure has helped him but it doesn't make people like him.

    Exactly what I've been saying. I'm glad you are agreeing with me finally. Schaub wouldn't be in the same place without Rogan and the UFC. But don't forget, he would have never been on TUF or been able to meet someone like Rogan if he hadn't first worked hard and gained enough skill to be on TUF and the UFC. He also wouldn't be doing standup today with the approval of his peers if he wasn't working hard at it. In the same way someone like Daniel Cormier wouldn't be a two division champ if he hadn't trained hard. Far fewer people wouldn't know who he was without the UFC but also far less would know and fewer would care if he hadn't worked hard and performed during big moments. The majority of Schaub's success is not on Rogan and the UFC.

    I have no idea if Diaz has worked harder than other people. The guys seems to have been in way more crazy situations than most people and it's a goldmine for comedy. I know his exposure from Rogan wouldn't have mattered if he hadn't worked hard though.

    Schaub isn't polished with his breakdowns but his main thing and goal isn't to be an analyst. He just gets on the mic and speaks unedited. However, I have definitely listened to his take on things before and thought it was insightful and interesting. I've thought he was wrong plenty too. The one thing I don't need is to agree with everything I listen to. I just need it to be interesting. Schaub is that. I thought his take on Saki was correct and made sense. I also thought his response to Dana was great. If you listen to his 12 minute response to this whole situation on his podcast from last Monday, it's pretty good too. He's not an eloquent wordsmith who is endlessly enjoyable to listen to, (Like your avatar), but I he's entertaining and isn't afraid to give an opinion and be wrong.

    Nah, you're wrong about that. Did you read the books? I did. I did because once upon a time I made fun of my wife for reading Harry Potter and she told me to read them before I judge it. Harry Potter was fantastic so I gave Twlight a try when she said the same thing after I poked fun at her for those books. Like I said before, there is nothing relatable for me but it's like crack for women. My wife made me go to the first movie. She thought it was terrible. Guess what though....she went to all the other movies too. She thought they were all terrible too. As *meh* as the books were, they were far better than those terrible movies. That's the thing about adaptations though, if you have a large enough fanbase for the books, you can put s--- out for a film and the book fans will flock to see the depiction of what they only ever had in text. The books were HUGE.

    What Twilight did to women is not something you could ever recreate. It sounds like you are speaking on things don't quite understand.
  2. Watain Well Liked OG Lightweight

    Twilight is just Mills and Boon with pointy teeth.
  3. Haraldr Well Liked Lightweight

    Rogan did make him though and Carrie Underwood is a product of Idol. What they could have been is just speculation, but their current career is a product of other factors.

    He also wouldn't have been on TUF had he not been born, but his work and whatever is not the reason why is where he is, the UFC and Rogan is. Schaub is a product of the UFC and Rogan and the majority of his success depends on those factors. Which is fine, everyone is somewhere because of the roads they have taken. But this does not mean they work harder than normal at it.

    How do you know Diaz's exposure wouldn't have mattered if he didn't work hard, it's just speculation.

    On his podcast, he started off saying he wasn't gonna go after Dana, and then he did, he also implied he f---ed Ronda right before that, that's the problem with him, he is a media hawk.

    I actually read a few hundred pages of the Twilight books, and i wasn't impressed, there is a billion teenage books like that. Harry Potter had some good movies early though and i also read 2 of those books, they were good. You make it sound like the movies are somehow excused because you like the books, but the number of people who read those books before the movies is very small compared to the number who watched them.

    Why would i wanna recreate what Twilight did to women, it has the same function has Fast and the Furious has for guys, cheap entertainment. Which is fine but it's still bad quality.
  4. abc0331 OG Welterweight

  5. 7time OG Welterweight

    I'm serious yo, Schaub f---ed this dudes wife.
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  6. cmvideo75 Music Idol Champion Well Liked Light Heavyweight

    Ahahahahahahah! Now THAT would be a fantastic twist and explain why Dana has STFU completely after Brendan's tweet and why he hates him so much (beyond just the obvious). Because he wasn't talking about Ronda, he was talking about Dana's wife!! Ahahahahahaha! Oh man, I could only hope so.
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  7. Haraldr Well Liked Lightweight

    Why would Dana continue to reply to Brendan, there is a billion fighters talking to him daily, he doesn't reply for any specific reason other than he don't care.
  8. 7time OG Welterweight

    I was talking bout haraldr not Schaub.
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  9. cmvideo75 Music Idol Champion Well Liked Light Heavyweight

    Too bad... thats a funny thought. Schaub's 'eskimo brothers' tweet was about Danas wife and not ronda.
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  10. 7time OG Welterweight

    Would be classic.
  11. Sedulous OG Heavyweight

    This analogy is wrong. American Idol didn't train singers. They discovered them and showed them to America and let America choose who they like. They are like a clothing store. They don't make the clothes they just sell them and people buy what they like best. Rogan just introduces his large audience to people. If the audience likes them, they follow them. Joe Rogan isn't teaching his guests how to be a certain way.

    You can attribute the size of Schaub's popularity to the exposure he received from the UFC and Rogan but they didn't create him. The just let people know. If you like a band and you tell your friends, you contributed to the popularity of that band on a much smaller scale. It doesn't mean you trained them to play their instruments.

    Because he'd be terrible at standup and no one would pay to see him. It doesn't matter if people know about you, they won't care if you suck at what they are suppose to pay you to do.

    He said he wasn't going to insult Dana the way Dana insulted him. He criticized Dana for talking s--- about fighters but he didn't insult him. I don't disagree with what he said or how he said it.

    I agree but that series made more money than the others. Stephanie Meyers is not a good writer but the story worked for ladies better than most.

    I'm not sure if you are talking about Twilight or HP. I loved the Harry Potter books. The Twilight books were ridiculous. I didn't care for them at all. But in both cases, the books were extremely popular and that propelled the movies to make a ton of money. Movies are easier to watch than novels are to read so you are probably right about one being consumed over the other but if it were not for the popularity of the books, the movies wouldn't have registered with people. Harry Potter sold around 500 million copies and counting.

    The reason one would want to recreate that is money. Stephanie Meyers made loads of money. The Fast and the Furious franchise has made a ton of money. Quality is just one factor and matters only to a degree. Twilight was such a popular book series they just needed to pump out some movies with attractive looking people. The creator's knew they didn't need to over spend because they knew why the books were popular. The fact that the movies are cheap and ridiculous was brilliant. Seeing the characters women love and only read about it was worth the price of admission to them. Even it wasn't a quality film.
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  12. YukonCornelius Well Liked OG Featherweight


    The Plot thickens....
  13. opti Lightweight

    Who's the female?
  14. YukonCornelius Well Liked OG Featherweight

    The Bald ones wife unit.
  15. PejaPolo OG Welterweight

    DW looks like he was shopped in there lol
  16. Haraldr Well Liked Lightweight

    Idol is promoting the singers, and almost without exception they fall of after Idol is done. America doesn't choose the best ones, they choose the ones they are given. Underwood would never be as big without Idol, even though she's one of the few with some talent and appeal. It's a promotion platform. Same as Rogan or other podcasts. Without those platforms they would never be known. It's absolutely wild when you dig into certain music genres and find fantastic high quality bands that get great international acclaim but barely sell out the local pub.

    The UFC and Rogan didn't create Schaub, but they made him famous. If i liked a band and told my friends it would do little, but if i was Oprah Winfrey and featured them on my show, i would make them.

    There is plenty of mediocre comedians who sell alright, there is a solid audience of comedy fans who go and watch shows on a regular basis.

    Take DMX, he was infamous for walking in the booth for 10 minutes and leave, even if they wanted him to do more work. He just didn't care and didn't work hard, but he had a talent that got him by. Who knows how hard Diaz works, or Schaub, when i say "hard work" i mean harder than normal, meaning, over at least 8 non-stop hours a day. Like 12 hour days and such. Who knows what they do or how they do it. I don't think it's a good idea to assume famous or well known people work hard because they do public work. I would guess they work like everyone else but has some talent in what they do, rather than some fact that they work harder than anyone else.

    Regarding Twilight, the reason we are talking about that is to show how bad quality products can still sell because most people just want cheap satisfaction. Most folks don't watch a lot of movies or develops any kind of book sense, so they accept the simple things in life and praise it. That was my whole point with Schaub and people consuming poor or medicore products in mass. I think Schaub is a mediocre analyst/entertainer that people consume in mass as a direct result of his exposure to the UFC and Rogan.
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  18. JonnyRico OG P4P Great

    Was wondering why there was a pointless bump but obviously knew Blubba was behind it.
  19. Blubba Jenkins Strawweight

    I was told to look for an existing thread before starting a new one. But you always bump everything I post - like a trained gimp.
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