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4:00 PM
so you can take your caveat emptor and.. y'know :)
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No, I didn't.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Your fault, mainly.
look I'm sorry if you really want the UK to be "in Europe" but the fact that it is not is hardly my fault
Such high quality debate Lightness and robot :D
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No, I don't. It's your fault that this distinction was thrown in the conversation.
4:01 PM
"I'm rubber and you're glue" :D
@R.MartinhoFernandes In fairness, a few people have specific and definite boundaries--for example, seismologists deal strictly in terms of tectonic plates. That's clear and definite, but has the minor disadvantage of disagreeing with most people's ideas, such as meaning that I clearly live in the Pacific Ocean, not North America.
@JerryCoffin Which is my main point: there are several distinct useful concepts of continent.
@R.MartinhoFernandes That is true. I am the one responsible for pointing out gross inaccuracies in the things people were saying. I hold my hands up to that.
I mean, don't give me shit about the Urals and the Caucasus.
You can't have any of my shit at all. I need it. For flinging at Vlad, Puppy, ...
4:05 PM
Why the fuck.
Why not
Blowjobs are overrated.
Giving blowjobs is underrated.
Hmm 'Ponta Delgada – London. From Apr ‘15, €49.99'. Is there anything in the Azores? I thought it was just rocks with a military airport. Need to Google.
I think I'm confusing with Ascension.
4:12 PM
@MartinJames Calderas and stuff.
no seriously it's super for work?
@MartinJames There is a NATO military base there, indeed.
He's somehow unsure if that's safe for work. I'm not sure how he can be unsure, but he is.
probably trying to get me fired
@Puppy Not Sure If
4:13 PM
Saving Puppy's job.
there's nothing directly NSFW on that site
Some people have an interesting perspective on what 'nsfw' is
looking at pics of ponies all day long is SFW here
Reddit gives the age check prompt, so I didn't bother.
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's text - only text.
4:14 PM
Gameloft made a My Little Pony game so you can just say you're looking at material and stuff
nobody will know for sure
@R.MartinhoFernandes I wasn't gonna click it given the description. Pretty clear that it's NSFW.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Actually, they look like a nice place for a visit.
@AlexM. They know you're a clopper.
It's just too obvious.
if I am, then everyone is!
oh wait
@MartinJames 'Tis very pretty.
4:15 PM
@Xeo ...unless you let the background bitmap display.
@AlexM. Fun fact: the reverse is definitely true.
@JerryCoffin Hm, didn't notice anything
Your boss did.
Are you guys at work right now?
My boss is outside this room atm.
4:17 PM
@Jefffrey I'm at home, working.
@Jefffrey Not for much longer!
Also I wrote a new game @Jefff
@Jefffrey Yuuuup.
well, a draft of mechanic for one
@Jefffrey for two more hours
4:17 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Haskell?
Came back from vacation today.
@Jefffrey Lua
@Jefffrey It's 16:17 in this timezone, so yes.
  local lastJumpX = lastPos.x - prevPos.x
  local lastJumpY = lastPos.y - prevPos.y

  local newCenterX = lastPos.x + lastJumpX
  local newCenterY = lastPos.y + lastJumpY

  local lenX = math.abs(newCenterX - p.x)
  local lenY = math.abs(newCenterY - p.y)
  local len = math.max(lenX, lenY)
  return len <= 1
I thought most companies could afford employers vacation until the 7th.
4:18 PM
@BartekBanachewicz dat code
see, it's about the mindset, not the language :P
people, do not share pictures of your junk online. pick from the millions of photos of other people's junk and send those.
@BartekBanachewicz What is it about?
@BartekBanachewicz oh god
did you write that code? :P
@BartekBanachewicz I thought you liked vectors.
4:19 PM
@Ell yes?
yeah, don't look at the x/y not being bundled together
@Jefffrey hmm, nope
Yes, you should probably use vectors.
that's not really important here
4:19 PM
legal days here are 25-26 Dec
that is pretty literally all I can see in that code.
and 1-2 Jan
also "last" vs "prev" (previous I assume)
what is the difference between last and previous?
everything else is either going to work or your own leave
@Ell previous is before last
last is "current"
4:20 PM
local lastJumpPos = lastPos - prevPos
local newCenter = lastPos + lastJump
local diff = newCenter - p
return math.max(diff.x, diff.y) <= 1
@Jefffrey Is that common in Italy? I didn't know of any place that does that.
call it current and previous then :P
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why do you think their economy is tanking? :P
@Xeo Here's what I saw, anyway: imgur.com/enCXXlJ [NSFW]
it seems AC Unity got fixed
I might buy it now
4:21 PM
let lastJump = lastPos - prevPos
let newCenter = lastPost + lastJump
let lenVec = abs (newCenter - p)
let len = max lenVec.x lenVec.y
return len <= 1
at a discount
@JerryCoffin I reflexively clicked that link. Fortunately I closed it before the image actually loaded.
because all collector's editions are gone
the figure was nice
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have no idea what is common in Italy.
@Ell good idea
@Jefffrey I wish Lua had let
4:22 PM
All my work experience can be summed up to doing 2/3 weeks of gathering grapes in some field.
@BartekBanachewicz It does:
$ cat preprocess.sh
sed 's/let/local/g'
fuck sed
fuck seth
@rightføld lol
it's only useful as chat hilarity routine
4:23 PM
@rightføld lol
No, sed is incredibly useful in many cases.
Not this one.
time to choose a pizza
I infact made a function pbsed which does pbpaste | sed … | pbcopy. :)
or maybe I'll go to mcdonald's again
4:23 PM
@rightføld Not if you fuck up the regex. (word boundaries, man!)
mcdonald's is quicker
@AlexM. Don't please.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nothing is useful if you fuck it up.
welp I should prolly finish my Point class in Lua
Meh - microwave is dying. Power supply? Magnetron and plumbing? Controller? Nope, all that complex stuff is fine. Instead, the shitty, cheapo motor gearing that drives the turntable is slipping:(
4:24 PM
but not having static typing makes writing reusable code annoying
OTOH this code doesn't need to be reusable at all
Then have static typing.
dunno who starred that but that's the reason I use Lua there
those are projects that last for a few hours
I know who starred it.
which is still longer than a typical rightfold's project
@BartekBanachewicz I know that feel.
4:25 PM
@rightføld they are finished in that time :P
@BartekBanachewicz LasagnaScript has been lasting for hours!
sleeping doesn't count
did I miss a NSFW? waht happened?
4:26 PM
RxJS looks neat.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Someone linked to blowjobs on reddit.
> Still, it continues to amaze us just how far committed coders, armed with modern emulators and input hardware, can go in exploiting systems that were designed to be completely closed off to unauthorized code.
nanana merge complete I'm done for today
time for some guitar
Hmm, I don't have to make >> specific to functions.
there are no nvidia 3d kits in romania for sale anymore
what the actual fuck
I can't buy any
could have bought some a year ago
@BartekBanachewicz So are you still in for that 2D library?
4:29 PM
but I demand voice contact
You are fired.
fuck if I ever allow you to drag me into 3.5h written debate
I want to hear Jefffrey talk with his Italian accent <3
I'm so glad request.get_full_path() returns an Unicode object
Really good
like that Gennaro Contaldo guy: "I LOVE MAKE PIZZA"
4:30 PM
@CatPlusPlus ahaahah
@BartekBanachewicz PHP is an acceptable, sound and well thought out programming language.
and I'm a fucking mermaid
Shows us your boobs.
Who are you fucking?
4:31 PM
@BartekBanachewicz No more debates, I promise.
actually considering that a) I need to go buy groceries b) there's shitload of water outside, being a mermaid could be cool
I just want something working to end my Snake game. And that's it.
no further future plans?
@Jefffrey Write Snake in LasagnaScript.
4:32 PM
you know that this lib is potentially a big project
Keep it simple and it won't be.
url   = url.encode('ascii')
url   = urlparse.urlparse(url)
query = urllib.unquote(url.query).decode('utf-8')
keeping it simple means agreeing on state
@BartekBanachewicz Make it into multiple small projects.
4:33 PM
Why do I have to do this
Fuck you Django
it'd be a lot of work to beat the competition with a new graphics lib
@AlexM. there's really not a lot of competition out there
@BartekBanachewicz Agreeing on state? What do you mean?
except Unity which does all the things
@Jefffrey user keeping track of entities given to him by a framework that are used to render stuff vs. purely functional stateless approach
4:34 PM
There's nothing to agree on. You are the boss, because you are the most experienced between me and you about... well, pretty much anything, but specifically graphics.
but I guess if you're looking just for a 2d lib it's...
Cocos2D maybe
(And then I have to encode it back because urlparse.urlunparse can't handle unicode objects)
but even that is a family of stuff
Or urlencode
Corona SDK does graphics too and is insanely popular
4:34 PM
I need some examples of good documentation
I'm gonna work on my doctool a bit
@BartekBanachewicz I still think it's possible to do with a stateless approach, but anything that works and doesn't segfault would make me happy anyway.
I've just made a nice riff
@Ell as in layout and formatting?
@Jefffrey I need constructive feedback nonetheless. You can't agree with me if I didn't convince you.
Or actual text?
4:36 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Well, of course, but between you and me you are the boss so in the end you'll make decisions.
Really, I'm just desperate to finish this Snake game once and for all.
@rightføld layout and formatting of non API docs
It has been almost 2 years now. It's fucking ridiculous.
I guess that's just paragraphs and things
@bartek Do you want to continue from the current state of Glisha?
4:39 PM
How would you want to write documentation?
outside of code
in html? markdown?
--------5------    -----5--5/7--5-----
------7---7---- x3 ----7----------7---

@Jefffrey ouch
@Jefffrey I think it's a nice starting point
Ok, imma clone it.
¬_¬ damn... missed bus
I don't need async/await when I have do.
@CatPlusPlus hallmark of good separation of concerns right there... (Java is making me do similar things, although I managed to reduce code by ~40% cf. the .NET client that I'm porting, my guess is I'd do the same on the .NET side :))
@VáclavZeman I didn't quite catch how that fit into the conversation
@Jefffrey Which reminds me. I never got my swag (yet) /cc @R.MartinhoFernandes
Nov 15 '14 at 1:01, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Speaking of which, my SO swag has not arrived yet.
4:49 PM
Q: Why are triangles so prevalent in high school geometry?

Will SchwartzA colleague and I recently discussed what we call the "Triangle Trap." High school geometry covers a very large unit reflecting the common core: Classifying Triangles Triangle Angle Properties Constructing Triangles Properties of Triangles (e.g. Equilateral, isosceles) Triangle Similarity Trian...

because triangles are cool
They have only 3 vertices, and as such are pretty simple
you can make any shape out of tiny triangles put together
okay - to use jquery or to not use jquery?
@Ell Will it make your job easier?
It will
4:50 PM
If there's something wrong with my answer, I'd appreciate a hint, or at least expect the correct answer to pop up. Just downvoting is not helping anyone. — sehe just now
@Ell Then use it.
@Ell So, abuse it
also @LightnessRacesinOrbit found your math educators SE match :P matheducators.stackexchange.com/questions/6163/…
inb4 blasphemy, LRIO has no match
coincidence, he lives in the UK too
4:52 PM
@AlexM. haha
@AlexM. try making a circle
put lots of triangles in and zoom out :P
that's still not a circle
"Common Core" implies "USA" only to people who already know what the Common Core is. For everybody else, it implies nothing at all! It would be helpful if people asking questions about a specific country could include the name of that country explicitly in the question. — David Richerby Apr 30 '14 at 17:19
bezier curves are much nicer
4:53 PM
circles are in the eyes of the beholder
@sehe Yeah, same.
@sehe Python 2's Unicode handling is just broken as fuck
@BartekBanachewicz those are too complicated :(
And libraries don't help
4:56 PM
@AlexM. if you have a library they're very cool to manipulate programatically
