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that's right. we did the live sunday, new year's day edition of free talk live. we do it seven days a week. it's amazing.
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so yeah, they would have to talk less than the other person. so, the lunch would have to, i guess they'd have to record it or something would somehow have to ...
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they'd have to- as far as i'm concerned, if they go to lunch with a muslim and a hardworking illegal immigrant, i'm willing to go ahead and pitch in my half. just that these guys would go ahead and do that because you know they're not. i knew they weren't going to from ...
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so that one dawned on me. you just can't even believe that his officers would behave in such a brutal, sadistic manner.
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a group of people so inefficient that they don't even know who they're beating up.
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right. fact. when you go into somebody's house and they might have a weapon to protect themselves, nearby, not even in their hands, it's a good idea to beat them up.
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hell, a lot of people just say to themselves, well, it's not happening to me. so what am i supposed to do about it? what do i care?
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well, you should care about the plight of other human beings because it could happen to you. remember, this guy didn't have drugs in his apartment and i
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can't communicate that. i don't feel like i can. i don't feel like there's anything i can say that is going to make somebody in that position realize that they should give a damn about mr. torres. [crosstalk]
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independence cannot come in and vote. but
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that's, from everything i've seen, i would not propose to be an expert in this area, but i mean, i've been paying attention.
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another thing about caucuses is you can try to influence the vote beforehand. so you can stand up and give a speech or that kind of thing.
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caucus locations in 99 counties. so that gives you some idea. there's like 17 or 18 caucus locations per county.
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so there's, i guess a guy who's a listener to the program. who's going to be there and he's got himself a speech plan.
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breaking the constitution. so what if they haven't declared war and seven ...
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war theory and things like that. i don't particularly agree with him on that. i tend to think that he's too much of a hawk for me.
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i'm trimming it. i mean, it's just kind of just a show.
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they say that, oh, we're just going to count these votes over here where you can't see us. that really bothers me.
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i want to pay for it. and you get somebody else to get it for you.
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no! we'll save it by voting for the same old politicians we've always voted for.
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we're going to just do the same. no doubt. and running a business has nothing to do with running the government, because the government is completely ass backwards from business.
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i find this despicable, the idea that a local law enforcement ... i mean, it's one thing for the feds to come in and swoop in, but to get the locals to help.
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yeah. and he is a black guy. so that might be a factor too.
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not even electing, just looking to collect evidence. i mean, if that was the case, if you're not going to take it.
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i don't know, mark. do they know that? because you would think that if people knew that, they'd be outraged by it. but i guess he could always just say, well, they're criminals, so it doesn't matter.
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we'll tell you about the dogs here in a moment. there's a little bit more about them. but the feds also froze his bank accounts, and fortune was detained for about five hours, then released
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the guy. now that doesn't mean charges won't be coming, but they don't have them right now. and they're able to go ahead and do a raid based on not having any charges.
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so, i mean, it seems to me, if they're able to ... if they can swoop in and do all this stuff, they should have to charge you. i mean- ...
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guy from what i understand, ran as a libertarian, i think it was libertarian.
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feds, have they arrested anybody up to this point? i mean, usually what they've been
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in believing that, i mean, they're out there, they're listening right now. people that believe this is a nation of law.
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but none were detained. he said none of them were detained, because he called the shop as he was being pulled over to warn them of the impending raid and everyone immediately evacuated the premises.
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and this is the kind of thing that ed fortune is known for. he's not afraid to put himself out there and put himself at risk. [crosstalk]
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well, of course, i mean, you're up against the federal government and it's hard to win against any government, let alone-
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to meet all year long and tell us everything. which light bulb, which toilet, how to educate our kids, everything.
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that's what administrative jurisdiction, rules, codes, regulations, and statutes are. that's not the same thing as law. god makes.
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that's right. and they stole all those people's houses and they didn't even pay him what they were having to pay taxes on.
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just what comes of not understanding that the government is here to serve us, keeping our freedoms.
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yeah. that's what they call it in russia, the crocodile. and it's essentially something that people are doing when they can't get their hands on the drugs that they're used to, like heroin.
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i don't have any respect for these phony fake new drugs. i'm sorry.
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well, when users want heroin, they don't want this stuff that eats your skin.
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....freetalklive.com. let's talk to ed listening in tennessee. ed, you're on free talk live with ian, julia, and mark.
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right. because people are demanding to get high. and so the market will supply that demand. unfortunately, this particular alternative is rotting peoples' skin off.
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it's your biggest and most important organ. you don't have enough skin, you're going to have all kind of nasty germs and disease and things like that getting in your body.
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i think the people that support the war on drugs, and they are out there, many of them work for the government. it's hard for them. it's hard for us to get them to call the show and actually advocate that.
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because they don't have... their opinion is already a fact, so they don't have to express it.
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...happened in portugal when they decriminalized drugs there over the last decade.
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they can work. and they function like alcoholics would. take
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a look at alcoholics. i mean, nobody would propose to make alcohol illegal and throw alcoholics in jail unless they do something as a result of being drunk that they should be held criminally liable.
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they don't really have opinions. that they just pair at the things that they're told in many cases.
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let's try ed again one more time here before we go. ed, you're back on free talk live from ten...
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hey, i just want to kind of warn the young lady there about the mdma.
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oh, okay. well, i don't know what level of involvement government has with how fast things can go on the internet. i don't know much about-
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your isp choice will include what websites do you go to most. i don't-
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yeah. i totally agree with that. i think wikileaks is being a little bit hyperbolic on this one. but as the conversation escalated-
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but you preserve- like the drug culture. you preserve ... but the drug culture is the new culture, not the old.
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and we're out there protesting for peace and protesting for marijuana.
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i've been talking about doing more with nhjury.com, which i'm excited about.
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i just started seeing stuff online about death and destruction. i didn't like it. it turned me into a raging hippy communist.
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you just saw some stuff from him. 2004 is pretty far back. many people got on board in 2008 and then in 2012.
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no, it's not a convention. we've got a few candidates in the libertarian party running as well down here.
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the whole issue i have is with moving to new hampshire is one, it's really cold.
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yep. it's true. 8:55, 453. that's the-
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so anyway, this todd schnitz, another one of them who describes himself as libertarian, but then-
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nothing's going to convince you. once you've seen your mother-in-law with, was it cancer or some kind of illness?
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speaker 7: because radio in 88.9 fm radio is good [inaudible 00:07:28]. yep.
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excellent. well, what a surprise? it's the one o'clock central time. welcome.
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as we begin the show, i just want to thank again, zavwilplay for running the show, running the riverwest
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radio outfit and so on and so forth. it's a nexus of the milwaukee community
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that would not be too cool in any regard. this is a meeting place of good souls,
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intellectual exchanges, spirited conversations, so on and so forth. and zavwilplay is the glue that holds it all together. yeah, certainly as many
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listing, many films and accompanied by many dramatic, still photos, black and whites,
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and through the good graces of riverwest film and video, i got to rent that film
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collection of some of his short films. friedman's not a director, but a producer, but he's along, makes films along the likes of andy milligan.
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the story is not to be dissuaded by any cinematic pyrotechnics, such as bizarre, low angles, disconcerting,
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fisheye lens, none of that avant. guard stuff that would distract from the fundamental formula of a prosaic film. whereas
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because that's more of a very mercenary monetary machine mechanism.
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and when you have nothing financially to lose, really, you can, let the imagination go free. and that's one of the joys of this milieu of
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underground filmmaking is to see these, all of these imaginative tangents, with a selection of lens, different ways of shooting at angles, so on and so forth.
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so when you watch these movies, you think about who are these people? what are their lives like? what do they do? because these are lives lived on a margin.
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wait, whose house is that? whose house are they shooting? and you know, what, who, where did they get that muscle car? who owns it? did they give him a case of beer to use it that day?
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underground, almost like macro budgeted films. i wouldn't ... they weren't no budget film.
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that milligan was sexually abusive to other members of his family like that he molested him.
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so when his style, when these independent films and they sh- i would define them as shocksploitation,
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class, work, economics, stuff like that.
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[inaudible] about them a number of years ago, i think two or three times. and i don't think that something weird had put them out yet.
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like hard soft core scenes with just women writhing around,
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literally of almost no value unless you really enjoy exploitation cinema for all of its weirdness and all of its campiness,
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but there's like, there's an otherness to these films. there's just, it's a different kind of cinema than the polished.
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i think it was almost mixed with just straight horror, not pornographic erotic films,
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because george kuchar, who john waters was influenced by as well.
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you just pull it together out of literally whatever you have laying around and
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wanted to make low budget films. he always wanted to be making-
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it became such a part and parcel, a part of the work,
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this feeling of
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creepiness that just comes naturally with low budget filmmaking and
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having the- i want to say wherewithal or tools to.
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and alan ginsburg. when william borroughs showed alan ginsburg the title,
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a writer who writes about the dirty underbelly of society,
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you can't really do too much with it because it rings hollow in a sense, even though we all want good things to happen in the universe or whatever, but
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