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it's it follows. that's the movie. and i know it came out january 27th in the uk. did it come out later there, or...?
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oh, i can't. i mean, i don't know the festival circuit and all that, if it did all that, but-
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i think march 27th, cause a lot of my friends and i were going to go see that movie on friday, march 27th.
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20th. but then it had that wide release a week later.
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yeah. so david robert mitchells, it follows, he did the myth of the american sleepover?
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can't. i had someone in my media studies department, my degree, which was associated with the film production.
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and someone told me it was pronounced "con." the con festival.
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it follows, i felt-
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i felt validated by the soundtrack of this film in a weird way, which i wanted to talk about first since we are music-
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yeah. so disasterpiece, a man of rich reland came out with the fez soundtrack, which is indie-
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... video game, independent video game, about four years ago now.
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...soundtrack of all these amazing synth sounds, and now-
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so if you don't know what it follows is, it is a-
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it walks. there are a lot of strange rules in the film, but it has to walk everywhere.
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i saw it with a friend of mine, and we just spent the next hour, when we weren't... after we were done being traumatized-
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it maybe can swim ,if you haven't seen the movie. if you haven't seen the movie, you probably shouldn't listen to this. i guess i should say that to begin with, but...
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we're not going to outright spoil anything, but we're not going to tow the line very carefully.
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yes. and so, it is a classic horror movie and one of the things that makes it so classic are these bright.
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i live about a half hour from where this movie takes place, theoretically.
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so, yeah. so it's garnered a lot of comparisons to john carpenter, who released his album. was it earlier this year or late last year?
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i like this soundtrack better than i liked the first songs of that collection, but...
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yeah. so it's garner a lot of attention, a lot of comparisons. what did you think?
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i think you told me. not long before i went in, i think you told me, "oh, disasterpiece did the soundtrack. you love disasterpiece. that's awesome." that's a fun little thing.
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i have a couple thoughts. first of all, the opening with that tracking shot and the very ominous first track heel-
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which, she was wearing heels. so i see where that title came from, but it was incredible and sets the tone immediately for what's to come.
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at a certain point still early on, i worried that the soundtrack would be a little too much. it's like high in the mix.
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and you have just these, again, really, really bright high synth notes. is that the part where you're talking about, where you thought like, "okay, this is a bit much?"
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it's probably around that point still early on after the first one though, where i was like, "man, this is-"
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...very strong. it ended up... i ended up falling in love with it as i do with most kind of-
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...boisterous, eighties kind of horror of themes. i almost always fall in love with them if i like the soundtrack itself.
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but there was a minute where i was worried about getting distracted.
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i guess my biggest complaint is that when i was watching it, i remembered as i was watching, i was like, "oh, okay. this sounds like the fez soundtrack."
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because disasterpiece did it. i had forgotten while watching. and then halfway through there are these-
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...really orchestrated moments that weren't synth based. and i was like, "well, hang on."
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did they have multiple composers on this? obviously this isn't disasterpiece. like he doesn't, he does not stick to that template. he goes far beyond it and terrifies you all doing so.
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yeah. weird, weird collection. he is so prolific. has dozens of albums, i think.
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if you go to disasterpiece.com, you can get everything from the excellent fez soundtrack to it follows-
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...to all the way back when, where he just has these sick metal riffs and that's really entertaining.
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i kind of forgot about that part after the very opening sounds on that tracking shot, but wasn't-
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...very... this sounds like his video game side. his trip to an 8-bit side coming.
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yeah, it is absolutely. when she's kind of looking at herself in the mirror. is that after or before the date? the first date? i think the... isn't the mirror bit after?
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there's definitely a mirror bit after. yeah. i feel like there are multiple mirror bits. there's a lot of just...there's a lot of just-
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that track gay, kind of... i'm not sure if you call it the title track, because there is a title track that is also good. there is this really-
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i was going to say with the dumbest plan ever, admittedly by david robert mitchell. but yeah, the-
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man i was real, really impressed. i was impressed by everything in the movie, but the soundtrack is very deserving of the accolades it's been... well, not accolades, but the praise it's been getting.
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which is an independent video game about going through different worlds as a small creature with a tiny fez hat.
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and you flip perspective and it's an amazing soundtrack, but he took those ideas and then translated many of them into this.
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i will say that i do not think the soundtrack is as easy to listen to in the way that the fez soundtrack is.
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it just has a bunch of really chilling spikes and tension that make it really hard to just sit down and relax to.
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we both tweeted earlier today about how we were listening to the soundtrack and preparation for this. and i was in a bright-
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...bright, all brightly lit, highly populated office. and we were in a brightly lit room, albeit alone.
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man, there is a lot of... a lot of the dread that comes from that movie, that is just dripping with dread throughout, comes from that soundtrack. it is-
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i don't really understand this getting a vinyl release and fez not, because i think fez takes the best parts of the soundtrack-
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...and morphs in beautiful ways. so i really recommend that people go check that out. that's kind of half the reason i wanted to do this, because i feel like this validates my opinion. i'm so pissed off that no one else-
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i have heard it mentioned a couple times on movie podcasts and such like that's the go-to reference is-
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i guess that's what i have to say about that. but i do want to talk about the movie because i actually do have a few thoughts after reading some interviews, and it would be a shame if we just dedicated this only to the music.
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because there's a lot of great things going on with that movie as well. i have a lot of thoughts.
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but i will say that i love-
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period. the period ambiguity. i was reading an interview. i can't remember which source. i will find out and i will put it in the post where this podcast is.
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but david robert mitchell said that he intentionally wanted to confuse people about the period that it takes place. so you see-
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micah's sister. is that her sister or her friend? because she looks completely different. doesn't look anything like mica monroe.
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so they pretty much span every decade possible, and then added technology that doesn't even exist today in it.
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yeah. that's just in the highly referential society we live in now. and horror movies, especially.
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i am all in on that aesthetic, so they can go ahead and keep doing that. i don't know when i'll get tired of it, but-
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well, besides the music, the other really overt choice was the camera work in it.
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it reminded me a bit of james juan with the conjuring, where it can almost be distracting with how active it is and how playful it is.
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i remember it was rotating in a circle in the hallway as they were going to look at the yearbook, trying to find what she thought was her boyfriend.
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didn't even pause for a second on the person walking towards it. it kind of just kept rotating and it did a lot of stuff like that, throughout the movie, that was just really cool.
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but i thought they did an excellent job with that, similar to the soundtrack, where they went right up to the line of too much, but stayed on.
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mike gioulakas was a cinematographer. i'm trying to look at what he did online.
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he's 31 credits. i was seeing if you knew anything else that he had done, because i did notice that the part where you're talking about in the school where it spins-
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i thought for a moment that they were just trying to keep us in, almost, the eyesight of what the creature was seeing.
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but then i realized like, "wait a minute. no." they're keeping us aware that it's still around them, but not where exactly it is or how close it is.
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i don't think it ever... they played a couple times, i think, with... oh, he did john dies at the end, but they played a couple times with a.
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yeah. so, at least in that case, i guess it is from the first person.
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and i still... i thought i would be better at handling horror movies in the movie theater.
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there was little... there wasn't that many jump-scares. i don't think.
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not what i would hope it to be, but i still found it absolutely, absolutely terrifying, like physically dreadful. it's so hard to talk about horror film.
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so many of its ardent fans are so desensitized to it.
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but my heart was just pumping out of its chest. i just, i was like on, basically sitting on top of my girlfriend, like, take me home. i can't do this.
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but i've had, i've run into that with a couple people. one of my good friends said i liked it, but it wasn't scary. i had other people who didn't like it, cause it wasn't scary.
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that what makes it so terrifying for me is the building dread throughout. and the fact that you're never safe.
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works really well. like even when it's obvious, it's like, oh, someone's walking towards, oh no, they're walking past, like even that, very obvious.
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i want to end the podcast with your theory about what you would do if you were in the situation. you woke up with this curse. what would-
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which i know is intentionally dumb because this takes place entirely in like the universe of youth, like there are hardly any adults.
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and i'm just thinking they're not that young. they're like 19. the movie specifically says that she is 19 and they are around her age.
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that is like some 12 year old [inaudible 00:01:23] planning. but i mean, i went with it obviously.
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and i kind of enjoyed it because in the [inaudible 00:01:31] she plays a very savvy.
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it kind of just goes, kids are stupid, look like they're dumb. they don't know what to do. and...
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the second point is obviously the sex plays a big part in the movie. we haven't talked about it much beyond your intro.
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but the whole sex is bad thing and it works, but it works going, it isn't exploitative like so many of these things often are because it punishes everyone it's-
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i am not, obviously it is not some kind of feminist landmark in horror film.
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but i went with a friend who feels very strongly about these things and she agreed.
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or see a guy like three guys on a boat. and my thought was like, all right, she's going to have a threesome, and then hope that...
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i should also say the opening scene with the boy. it makes it looks like he's going to date rape her and...
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thankfully that's not what happened cause i was worried for a bit that that was what was going to happen. i look, i it's...
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it's not great, but it could have been very, very bad without handled the subject matter. and i thought it did a much better job than it...
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i'm living on a boat, man. she's going to live on a boat and like, we'll move, like i will, you have to go to shore, but you'll [inaudible 00:02:50] move.
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and like the technicalities of the thing, like kind of follow each and every...
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[crosstalk 00:00:11] yeah, you let me know at the end of the show, how i do if that [crosstalk 00:00:15] ...
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