 TreesOfLife Well-Known Member Aug 0, 0000 #0 jrh00000 said: They haven't even passed a damn health care bill yet, so of course they don't know the details. And I'm all for health care - it's progress, not the country going to the 'shitter'. Have you experienced socialized healthcare, other than what you heard? Maybe you should 'wake up' as your parlance indicates. 