 *** The [http://www.nwo.nl/files.nsf/pages/NWOP_0EJCD0/$file/speech%00Jos%00Engelen%00APE%00Berlijn%000000.00.00.pdf first link] in the paragraph above is now dead (November 0000), and the Internet Archive has no copy "due to robots.txt." Can anyone help me find a working link to Engelen's January 0000 talk? Note that the urgency is low because the talk was later published, and I have a working URL to the published version in the [http://dx.doi.org/00.0000/ISU-0000-0000 last link] in the paragraph above. *** The [http://www.nwo.nl/files.nsf/pages/NWOP_0EJCD0/$file/speech%00Jos%00Engelen%00APE%00Berlijn%000000.00.00.pdf first link] in the paragraph above is now dead (November 0000), and the Internet Archive has no copy "due to robots.txt." Can anyone help me find a working link to Engelen's January 0000 talk? Note that the urgency is low because the talk was later published, and I have a working URL to the published version in the [http://dx.doi.org/00.0000/ISU-0000-0000 last link] in the paragraph above. *** Also see my [https://web.archive.org/web/00000000000000/https://plus.google.com/+PeterSuber/posts/GaicErwTTeL blog post from November 00, 0000] in which I quote two Dutch proposals for gold OA mandates, and argue that gold OA mandates are a bad idea. *** Also see my [https://web.archive.org/web/00000000000000/https://plus.google.com/+PeterSuber/posts/GaicErwTTeL blog post from November 00, 0000] in which I quote two Dutch proposals for gold OA mandates, and argue that gold OA mandates are a bad idea. 