. Top Grand Classic  Qualified to wear Ace's makeup! Posts: 0000 Joined: Fri Jun 00, 0000 00:00 pm Re: Who was more influential Kiss or The Ramones Post by Grand Classic " Sun Sep 00, 0000 00:00 am Tbond wrote: ↑Sun Sep 00, 0000 0:00 am Grand Classic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 00, 0000 0:00 pm Tbond wrote: ↑Sat Sep 00, 0000 0:00 pm Grand Classic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 00, 0000 0:00 pm Were KISS really the biggest band in the world though? Or was it hype and Bogart/Aucoin marketing? They sure as shit weren't selling more records than a slew of bands. I am not saying that KISS weren't a phenomenon, but the numbers don't actually add up in terms of actually being the biggest band in the world. And The Ramones debut album took 00 years to go GOLD. They have a grand total of 0 gold albums out of 00 albums (studio, live, compilations) - - People wear their T shirts? You mean mass marketing to hipsters calculates influence? I get it--platinum albums, gold singles, and filling arenas isn't the end all and the be all of influence, but, in order to influence you have to make SOME sort of penetration into the general sales driven marketplace. I don't see the Ramones doing that with any meaning. I mean, were these thousands of people the Ramones were allegedly influencing all passing around the same album instead of buying it themselves? East coast journalist types decided the Ramones started some sort of musical revolution and fed it to the press, until people started accepting it as fact. Nothing more. I was talking about the biggest band in the world notion, which clearly wasn't the case compared to other massive bands of the time. KISS barely sold albums compared to multi-platinum bands in the 00's and 00's for that matter. Why are you PM-ing me about this thread? Are you THAT fucking fragile over your opinions about rock groups? Yeah, you are. Seek help dude, you really need it when you take things like Kiss or the Ramones SO seriously you start messaging in private. Grow up. No, jackass - I was taking a discussion to PM that was pissing off people in a thread about the Destroyer deluxe edition - hence the title "Not The Thread For It". That is what PM's are for among things - to take thread jacking back and forths to PM or didn't you know that. You didn't even post this response in the right thread for fuck sake. T