 Yours, Larry 0 archibald tuttle Member Posts: 000 February 0000 did find this though. it will take experimentation to see how much length of 0/0" pipe i could slide through the 0/0" internal diameter. and i wonder if its possible to get 'straight' 0/0" pipe in lengths longer than 00'. 00 or 00 would surely be a help with this. its funny, would need to be coiled for shipping but if its only a day in shipment it wouldn't really have developed a shape memory by then in my experience. brian 