 Muslin fka Deana Holmes on Thu Jun 00, 0000 at 00:00 AM said: Ken F (aka Tweed): Here is a sample from Tim Challies: https://www.challies.com/articles/can-we-enjoy-heaven-knowing-loved-ones-are-in-hell/ "once sin is removed from my life... and I love the Lord my God with all of my heart and all of my soul in undiluted perfection, my compassion, my love, my concern will be much more for the vindication of God's holiness than for a corrupt fallen kinsmen of mine." There are many more examples available, but this is sufficient. It's pretty disguating to read. This seems to be a regular thing throughout the centuries, from Tertullian to today's theologians. "...love and pity for hell's occupants will not enter our hearts." (J.I. Packer in Christianity Today, 0000) That's so amazingly cruel, I'd rather go to hell than endorse a god who would take love and pity from people. Headless Unicorn Guy on Thu Jun 00, 0000 at 00:00 AM said: truthseeker00: In my opinion, initially the Calvinists do not show their true colors. They love bomb the members, winning their trust, and only then do they subtly shift the meaning of the gospel; usually so subtly, most only feel a vague discomfort now and then, for which they blame themselves. 