""Again, I agree that we shouldn't expect biblical morality out of the 00% of our people who admit they are unbelievers. But the VAST MAJORITY of us don't fall in that category."https://culturesatwar.wordpress.com/0000/00/00/proud-member-of-the-morality-police-at-your-service/ "How about we consider how Christians differ in what they consider "sin"? Is homosexuality a sin or not?" "I'll ask you directly: Do you believe morality comes from your bible and your god?" "I also would like to ask you another question: are Mormons Christians? Are Jehovah's Witnesses? Are Roman Catholics? Are the various sects of the eastern Orthodox churches? Unitarians? Cathars? Coptic Christians? Pentacostals? Seventh Day Adventists? Presybeterians? The various sects of Anabaptists?" "That's hilarious, MMM. Nice try but saying that you try to live up to what is in the bible is the same as saying as you believe that this is where morality comes from. IF this is not the case, WHY do you try to live up to what is written in there?" "You may of course tell us that you do not believe the bible is the "Truth" as you have written it which would make my conclusion fail. Will you? Now, since you are trying to claim that "biblical morality" doesn't mean morality from the Bible, please tell us exactly what you meant." "Hmmm, so is the bible wrong now when it claimed that some ideas were right and objective and unchanging, and it's really embarrassing for Christians to admit that now? What is "right/wrong" then, MMM, and how can you tell? YOu seem to want to run back to the bible, but by your own admission, it might not be your god's word, and there is no reason at all to think that it is. Unless you want to present evidence that it really is. Do you?" 