. Top Tbond  Ready to sing Shock Me! Posts: 000 Joined: Sat Nov 00, 0000 0:00 pm Re: Who was more influential Kiss or The Ramones Post by Tbond " Sun Sep 00, 0000 0:00 am Grand Classic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 00, 0000 0:00 pm Tbond wrote: ↑Sat Sep 00, 0000 0:00 pm Grand Classic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 00, 0000 0:00 pm DaveinSpain wrote: ↑Sat Sep 00, 0000 0:00 pm Pretty straight forward question. Clearly Kiss were the biggest band in the world for a few years. I'm not debating who was bigger. Obviously Kiss sold millions more albums. But The Ramones are credited with starting a whole new genre of music. Yes The Ramones played 0 chords and wrote minimal lyrics. I also feel Kiss wrote basic 0000's arena rock songs. Great songs that I love, but they didn't reinvent the wheel either musically. I'm not arguing who was better everyone has their own taste. I'm strictly speaking about influencing new generations of bands. I think The Ramones were more influential. Without them who knows how punk music would come to be. Kiss definitely was the bigger band and maybe the biggest of the mid to late 00's, but The Ramones created a style of music that has gone on to create some of the biggest bands of today. People everywhere still wear their shirts. I don't see too many Kiss shirts out there today. I think The Ramones never got the credit they deserved in life as they do in death or post breakup. They are my 0 favorite bands and I love them pretty equally. I will say regardless of the outcome of the poll The Ramones definitely made the better movie of the 00's. Were KISS really the biggest band in the world though? Or was it hype and Bogart/Aucoin marketing? They sure as shit weren't selling more records than a slew of bands. I am not saying that KISS weren't a phenomenon, but the numbers don't actually add up in terms of actually being the biggest band in the world. And The Ramones debut album took 00 years to go GOLD. They have a grand total of 0 gold albums out of 00 albums (studio, live, compilations) - - People wear their T shirts? You mean mass marketing to hipsters calculates influence? I get it--platinum albums, gold singles, and filling arenas isn't the end all and the be all of influence, but, in order to influence you have to make SOME sort of penetration into the general sales driven marketplace. I don't see the Ramones doing that with any meaning. I mean, were these thousands of people the Ramones were allegedly influencing all passing around the same album instead of buying it themselves? East coast journalist types decided the Ramones started some sort of musical revolution and fed it to the press, until people started accepting it as fact. Nothing more. I was talking about the biggest band in the world notion, which clearly wasn't the case compared to other massive bands of the time. KISS barely sold albums compared to multi-platinum bands in the 00's and 00's for that matter. Why are you PM-ing me about this thread? Are you THAT fucking fragile over your opinions about rock groups? Yeah, you are. Seek help dude, you really need it when you take things like Kiss or the Ramones SO seriously you start messaging in private. Grow up. You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. Top 