So, now you claim that "right/wrong is objective and unchanging". Hmmm, so is the bible wrong now when it claimed that some ideas were right and objective and unchanging, and it's really embarrassing for Christians to admit that now? What is "right/wrong" then, MMM, and how can you tell? YOu seem to want to run back to the bible, but by your own admission, it might not be your god's word, and there is no reason at all to think that it is. Unless you want to present evidence that it really is. Do you?" 