. There is every reason to believe that Nietzsche turned away from Christianity because the Christians, taught by Aristotle and the Stoics, completely forgot the primordial jubere and remembered only the parere which follows it. Lev Shestov User mini profile View full profile annatar0000 Rank: Absolutely Corrupt (x0) Posts: 0000 Joined: 00 Oct 0000 00:00 Status: Off-line Ideology: Other Awards: Re: I Reject, I Affirm. ''Raising the Black Flag'' in an Age of Devilry.#00000000 By Odiseizam - 00 Oct 0000 00:00  Like - 00 Oct 0000 00:00 #00000000 yes he had awakening i.e. metanoia, but he was brought up mids romanticism thus his works are heavily influenced by the european trends, as someone says he was ultimate heir of the european and russian romanticism [0] said this defacto he was diving in the enlightenment trends altho with antielitist mood interwoven with authentic russian mindset ... anyway ... to be clear my objection in my previous post was more towards your generalizing logic about libertarianism even more when maybe unintentionally You are equaling it to liberalism, yes it could be seen as fruit from same enlightenment stem and from this respect I despise it too, yet libertarianism can be seen as political philosophy exempt from historicism and the false egalite of the enlightenment era tho as term resonates liberty, but one thing is history another philosophy and per'se is wrong to put everything in same mold, so I disagree labeling and comparing libertarianism even with anarchism even less with liberalism ... maybe coz I see myself on the political compass as social'libertarianist tho more leaning to center than left, simply in World that exists coz Salvation who am I to seek for heaven on earth and question Our Lords Providence i.e. its not accidental there are powers thrones etc. levels of hierarchy not just in the spiritual but also this world too, in this context bourgeoisie also has role at least so people would see what is wrong emphasis of salvation even tho even rich decadent people can evolve if they repent, yeah more time consuming to swim out from all the piles of temptations tho as Our Lord advice us with camel parabola ... what is interesting tho intellectual bourgeoisie is also deadly thing, as we are Warned that we will be judged in the end for every word we say, from this respect also generalization thing is problem to some extent too, but predominantly hate speech towards the different or usually envy and curses towards political counterparts , yeah I am really sick when will heard how common people on talk shows eforums or soc.networks are swearing and cursing without any care everything, everything? everything! even the weather ... ... its the decadence of the ego what with live now in more than wealth or lusts, the last ladder to freedom when even we balance hedonism and materialism in ourself we are struggling to calm our pride and not to judge even less to help with prayers those that deserve judgment, final frontier for all of us as temptation and last stronghold of the emptiness from the spirit of this world, tho in the end its not issue whether we are loosing our guard but whether we gave up the struggle within, the last true enemy our internal battle with our own demons-anathema-to-them, yep in right circumstances even Patriarchs have had raised a blade instead The Sword Of The Lords Word ... User mini profile View full profile Odiseizam Rank: 00% Corrupt Posts: 000 Joined: 00 Oct 0000 00:00 Status: Off-line Awards: Re: I Reject, I Affirm. ''Raising the Black Flag'' in an Age of Devilry.#00000000 By annatar0000 - 00 Oct 0000 00:00  Like - 00 Oct 0000 00:00 #00000000 @Odiseizam , I 