 Never thought he was a great leader should never have been made captain in my view .Just lately he has made far to many mistakes to be of any use to the england set up . Retirement from the international game may well be for the good of the national set up .And I can think of one or two more names that should be got rid of. mrsblue Banned Joined Oct 00, 0000 Messages 0,000 Jun 00, 0000 #0 