 nsam, Can you falsify the possibility that the more mediocre parts of the diaspora have average IQ of 000 (mild filtering; even an H0B visa requires a college degree), but that, say, 0-00% of the diaspora is drawn from the extreme tail of elite (in India), with IQ>000? In this model the Brahmin average in India could still be quite modest, like 000. After all, if 00% of IITians are in the US (and those are probably the top 00%!), that means a big chunk (the majority?) of the very smartest Indians are *here*. I think there is good evidence that the current high IQ output of India is equivalent to an IQ000 country with population of 000M. (See links above.) I don't think that can be reconciled with a Brahmin population of >(00M +00M) with IQ000 and 000. In fact, it's laughable -- that would be equivalent to 00x the US Ashkenazi population, which has average IQ around 000. Certainly the contributions of US Ashkenazim are not an order of magnitude less than what is coming out of India! 0/00/00, 0:00 PM Anonymous said... rec0man here -- Rob: "Did people who interacted with South Indian Brahmins, say Arabs, or Persians, or The English during the Raj ever write "wow, these are the smartest people I've ever meet?" 