 most people get a cheap wired or wireless mouse - sooo much easier than the touchpad. And microsoft 'help' is almost as big a joke as losing microsoft 'support' for an operating system, being a bad thing Also by 'bars' do you mean the left and right buttons ? They are still there, you just press the left and right corner of the pad down instead of easy to discern buttons. Back to top Do All things with Honour and Generosity: Regret Nothing, Envy None, Apologise Seldom and Bow your head to No One - works for me IP Logged 