0,000 April 0000 edited April 0000 colddirt wrote: " I stayed up late last night reading this thread and it was very entertaining. I won't/can't get into an arguement with any of you about this subject because I'm neither articulate enough nor do I feel like getting upset. I'm guilty of bias - extream bias. When I grew up, my uncle told me what was good and what was not, and I listened real well. He said Onkyo (we called it Honkyo) was junk, pioneer, and basically everything else was either over priced or junk compared to what he had. He had Hafler, Adcom, and Denon components and he started out with Advents and then moved on to Polks. I've never owned anything other than this equipment. Do you know why? Because I can find equipment that I think sounds great within my limited circle of brands at a good price. I wouldn't bother listening to or think of buying a $00,000 pair of cool looking speakers because I can't fathom anything sounding better than the Polks I have. The same goes for the Denons I'm running - if I can't find an Adcom or Hafler power/pre amp at a decent price I don't need one............the Denons I've got sound great to me. As for speaker cables, PLEASE. There is certainly a reason no one wants to do an ABX test on these.............my SDA's have 00 gauge wire inside them - what point is there in running thousands of dollars of speaker wire OUTSIDE the cabinets when lamp cord is INSIDE of them? "Super" listeners can't tell the difference in ABX tests, and make excuses (I.E. - they're not valid for audio - what?) when/if they're forced to participate. If anyone has to make an excuse for justifying spending thousands of dollars on their equipment I don't know what to say. Before I lose any friends I may have made while I was here, I appologize if I offended you. Come over to my house and listen to my "junk" - since you already know what I'm running you already have a bias, now that makes two of us. I'm going to go outside and play now while the sun is out. It's Portland and it's going to be 00 degrees. 