 Well-Known Member Aug 0, 0000 #00 jrh00000 said: I said there were other factors, but the evidence still stands. Healthcare has a lot to do with it. I honestly have a hard time understanding why people are so opposed to it. I understand the tax payer funding, but we fund all kinds of useless shit. At least this is a positive. And I don't think the government is using healthcare as a pretext to control us. This scenario follows the situation to it's most irrational end and uses it as evidence against. Preposterous. I've always been fascinated with socialized medicine since traveling some ten years ago and realizing it was THE standard all around the world at that time. I wondered why we're virtually the only developed country without it. I still cannot figure it out other than the brainwashing the populus was fed - same with socialism. Put young handsome Reagan on the radio denouncing the red scare and everyone's terrified. Even on this forum, where one usually encounters a plethora of arguments, I've yet to hear a logical reason for not implementing socialized health care. No one even cares about this issue anymore here. It's all Alex Jones, Obama's birth certificate, and conspiracy bullshit. Let's debate actual issues, like healthcare! Click to expand... I tried debating you in another thread. You just straight up ignored me after I refuted every negative thing in the bill. Just what retired toker has just talked about. I talked about not wanting to pay for it, and how we will all be forced to foot the bill for the poor who are too lazy to work, and for the illegals who pushed their damn wanting of free health care upon us tax payers. RetiredToker, I see what this bill is going to do. I have signed petitions and sent pre-written letters to my representatives telling them to oppose the bill. If I can find the links, I will send them to you and you can petition also. For some reason, even after reading your post, jhr still doesn't understand what this fucked up socialist health care plan will do to our country. he wants to be controlled by uncle same and get robbed for the money he worked oh so hard for like you have. why someone would WANT to be forced to pay for health care for the entire nation and illegals is beyond me. Rob Roy Well-Known Member Aug 0, 0000 #00 jrh00000 said: I said there were other factors, but the evidence still stands. Healthcare has a lot to do with it. I honestly have a hard time understanding why people are so opposed to it. I understand the tax payer funding, but we fund all kinds of useless shit. At least this is a positive. And I don't think the government is using healthcare as a pretext to control us. This scenario follows the situation to it's most irrational end and uses it as evidence against. Preposterous. I've always been fascinated with socialized medicine since traveling some ten years ago and realizing it was THE standard all around the world at that time. I wondered why we're virtually the only developed country without it. I still cannot figure it out other than the brainwashing the populus was fed - same with socialism. Put young handsome Reagan on the radio denouncing the red scare and everyone's terrified. Even on this forum, where one usually encounters a plethora of arguments, I've yet to hear a logical reason for not implementing socialized health care. No one even cares about this issue anymore here. It's all Alex Jones, Obama's birth certificate, and conspiracy bullshit. Let's debate actual issues, like healthcare! Click to expand... 