. Headless Unicorn Guy on Fri Jun 00, 0000 at 00:00 PM said: okrapod: Pertinent to more than one idea here. J Vernon McGee is one whose radio talks came on the radio while I was sitting in the kiddie school car pickup line for years. And yes he was a Presby calvinist, but he had some good ideas. One quote from him that I found on line is that he said that God created the universe and has a plan for it. He goes on to say that you (generic) may have a better plan, but you don't have a universe. 