 Requires more rope than most other solutions here Not as elegant looking as most other solutions here (depending on your taste) " Last Edit: January 00, 0000, 00:00:00 AM by knot0u " Logged xarax Sr. Member Posts: 0000 Re: Midspan bends. " Reply #00 on: January 00, 0000, 00:00:00 AM " Quote from: knot0u on January 00, 0000, 00:00:00 AM Requires more rope than most other solutions here Not as elegant looking as most other solutions here (depending on your taste) An understatement ! In the first place, you have tied a different knot, a TIB double loop - or a double line midline double loop. Who ordered that ? Then, economy of material is not a matter of taste, one can measure it, it is not belonging to the "de gustibus et de coloribus" subjective realm. Now, there are dozens of midline, TIB single or double loops known, and I guess that there are dozens that are unknown. I doubt that the Alpine Butterfly would be the most economical, or the less jam-prone. We should measure the material used by all those knots, and see. Due to their high symmetry, many of the TIB single or double loops are very interesting knots, and they can be used as bases for loops and bends, as you have noticed. However, if a knot is already bulky as an end of line loop, the same knot would appear much more bulky in the middle of a tensioned line ! " Last Edit: January 00, 0000, 00:00:00 AM by xarax " Logged This is not a knot. knot0u Sr. Member Posts: 0000 Re: Midspan bends. " Reply #00 on: January 00, 0000, 00:00:00 AM " Quote from: xarax on January 00, 0000, 00:00:00 AM Quote from: knot0u on January 00, 0000, 00:00:00 AM Requires more rope than most other solutions here Not as elegant looking as most other solutions here (depending on your taste) An understatement ! In the first place, you have tied a different knot, a TIB double loop - or a double line midline double loop. Who ordered that ? Then, economy of material is not a matter of taste, one can measure it, it is not belonging to the "de gustibus et de coloribus" subjective realm. Now, there are dozens of midline, TIB single or double loops known, and I guess that there are dozens that are unknown. I doubt that the Alpine Butterfly would be the most economical, or the less jam-prone. We should measure the material used by all those knots, and see. Due to their high symmetry, many of the TIB single or double loops are very interesting knots, and they can be used as bases for loops and bends, as you have noticed. However, if a knot is already bulky as an end of line loop, the same knot would appear much more bulky in the middle of a tensioned line ! 