 But for them - they need to lay down the SBC and all the SBC socialization, and actually *see* and get to know the very people in front of them. They operate too much in constricting roles, caricatures of people/thoughts, authoritarianism (many of it the hyper kind), us vs them mentalities, prescripted talking points rather then free and natural dialogue, little to absolutely no vulnerability. okrapod on Fri Jun 00, 0000 at 00:00 PM said: Headless Unicorn Guy: Wasn't that the original Christian afterlife, before the "Intermediate State" (required for continuity of the individual between mortal life and Resurrected) metastasized into Fluffy Cloud Heaven? 